View Full Version : I'm calling it right now...
Broken1
01-05-2008, 04:25 PM
With the 9th pick in the draft the Bengals will take
Wide Receiver from Cal...
DeSean Jackson.
Last season the Bengals were entertaining the thought of Ted Ginn with the 17th pick. It was moot due to the Dolphins picking him, but had he been there, there was intrest. Now comes Jackson. His size, speed, and play making ability either match, or surpass everything that Ginn brought to the table a year ago. Jackson has established himself as one of the premiere wide receievers, as well as punt and kick returners in the league. In my opinion he is the biggest offensive weapon in this seasons draft class. Oh, and it doesn't hurt that there are rumors that he has and very well may run in the 4.27 to 4.35 range.
Some may think I'm crazy, and others may just flat disagree with the thought of this selection, but I really believe it's a scenario that people should brace for. It could be coming...
I wouldn't be surprised if this happened, but only if the Bengals traded Chad Johnson. It's rumored that T.J. will get a deal done to extend his contract, and that would give us a WR corp of #1 T.J. Houshmandzadeh #2 Chris Henry #3 DeSean Jackson #4 T. Perry/G. Holt/A. Chatman.
I think if we can get a guy like DeSean to return kicks and punts that puts less pressure on Chatman/Holt/Perry to do the returns and they can all just try and play receiver, which I think can help alot.
Houshmazilly
01-05-2008, 04:48 PM
No, this would be a horrible, horrible pick unless we trade down to get him. Look at what Ted Ginn has done, and that should deter you from taking a Ginn like player with a top 10 pick.
Bengal Dude
01-05-2008, 05:00 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the coaches went with this pick, although it wouldn't be the best option. Jackson's name has been thrown all over the first round lately. If we wind up with him, then I'm hoping that it meant that we traded down to get him, so we would have even more picks. As for Chris Henry being our #2.......:vomit:. He is one puff away from the CFL and he has put himself in the position where we can't depend on him as our #2. If he became it, then we better have some better WRs behind him.
I wouldn't be surprised if the coaches went with this pick, although it wouldn't be the best option. Jackson's name has been thrown all over the first round lately. If we wind up with him, then I'm hoping that it meant that we traded down to get him, so we would have even more picks. As for Chris Henry being our #2.......:vomit:. He is one puff away from the CFL and he has put himself in the position where we can't depend on him as our #2. If he became it, then we better have some better WRs behind him.
If he's not dependable enough to be our #2 receiver he's not dependable enough to be our #3, I guess he should be cut.
what you're saying doesn't make much sense to me, Chris Henry has the talent to one day be a great #1 receiver but people are saying "he can't be depended on as a #2 receiver because he's been in trouble so much, oh but it's ok for him to be #3"
I guess we can keep him as long as he stays at #3, I guess if we draft DeSean he'll start off as a #2 receiver and Chris can be behind him with more talent and skill than DeSean as a receiver.
By the way I would only support this pick if the Bengals were to pick up a solid DT AND a solid DE through FA, or get another first round pick. WR isn't our #1 priority, and neither is KR/PR. BUT we do need a K/PR guy and if we have multiple first round picks I would definitely be happy about this pick.
ItsMeBrad
01-05-2008, 05:44 PM
No, this would be a horrible, horrible pick unless we trade down to get him. Look at what Ted Ginn has done, and that should deter you from taking a Ginn like player with a top 10 pick.
According to this logic, anyone that has done less than stellar coming out of the draft in their position, you should never draft for that position again if the next draft pick guy has similar stats?
Wow, there wouldnt be a draft anymore.
As far as drafting Offense in our first round? Aint happening. WE NEED DEFENSE
Bengal Dude
01-05-2008, 05:46 PM
If he's not dependable enough to be our #2 receiver he's not dependable enough to be our #3, I guess he should be cut.
what you're saying doesn't make much sense to me, Chris Henry has the talent to one day be a great #1 receiver but people are saying "he can't be depended on as a #2 receiver because he's been in trouble so much, oh but it's ok for him to be #3"
I guess we can keep him as long as he stays at #3, I guess if we draft DeSean he'll start off as a #2 receiver and Chris can be behind him with more talent and skill than DeSean as a receiver.
You don't use the #3 as much as the #2. We'd only have one WR better than him if he was to get promoted. Also, look at the amount of playing time. TJ was in there a lot, and Chris wasn't. No telling if he could take that much playing time. He also still has some issues out there. He will not lay out for the ball, won't go up for the ball if he's going to get hit, and he doesn't put his arms up for it. There are so many confidence issues with him.
Air Force Bengals Fan
01-05-2008, 05:56 PM
If the bengals don't go defense and pick Laurinitas, then I think they will go for McFadden if he is still left on the board.
Bengal Dude
01-05-2008, 06:01 PM
If the bengals don't go defense and pick Laurinitas, then I think they will go for McFadden if he is still left on the board.
If McFadden SOMEHOW makes it to us at #9, then there is absolutely no doubt you take him. If we don't take him, then it is evident that Mike Brown wouldn't want to win. The only way you don't take him, is if some team offers up their entire draft for him.
SouthernStripes
01-05-2008, 07:09 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the coaches went with this pick, although it wouldn't be the best option. Jackson's name has been thrown all over the first round lately. If we wind up with him, then I'm hoping that it meant that we traded down to get him, so we would have even more picks. As for Chris Henry being our #2.......:vomit:. He is one puff away from the CFL and he has put himself in the position where we can't depend on him as our #2. If he became it, then we better have some better WRs behind him.
That is the only way I wouldnt raise cane about that pick. Move down a few slots and pick up a DP or two.
Good player, I just think the need is more elsewhere.
Hoosier Who Dey
01-05-2008, 07:12 PM
I hope your call goes unanswered, lol.
Broken1
01-13-2008, 12:24 AM
I just want to throw it back out there again. Especially after these latest comments from Chad Johnson...
Do not be surprised if we end up taking Jackson with our first round pick...
TwoADay
01-13-2008, 10:43 AM
I will go on the record as saying I wouldn't really support the pick. I'm all for using lots of picks this season (hopefully at least 4 picks) to shore up the trenches on both Offense and Defense. The game is won or lost at the line of scrimmage. you can never have enough quality linemen. they make all the other positions better - QBs, RBs, LBs, and CBs.
Our WRs are starting to get older, but they're also starting to learn the tricks that older WRs start to learn in order to compensate for losing a step. We could probably do with spending a middle or late pick on a WR, as it appears that Tab may never make it though a season healthy, but I wouldn't be a big fan of early picks devoted to WR.
EatonFan
01-13-2008, 02:59 PM
If McFadden SOMEHOW makes it to us at #9, then there is absolutely no doubt you take him. If we don't take him, then it is evident that Mike Brown wouldn't want to win. The only way you don't take him, is if some team offers up their entire draft for him.
I could see the Bengals taking McFadden, but if he falls that far, I'm sure other teams would offer some pretty good draft picks for him. Dropping and getting another 2nd rounder may be a better option.
Redfox
01-13-2008, 04:03 PM
If McFadden SOMEHOW makes it to us at #9, then there is absolutely no doubt you take him. If we don't take him, then it is evident that Mike Brown wouldn't want to win. The only way you don't take him, is if some team offers up their entire draft for him.Your kidding right:rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf:
Bengal Dude
01-13-2008, 04:26 PM
Your kidding right:rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf:
Nope, I'm not kidding. If he falls, then you take him. Minnesota didn't need a RB, but look what happend there. The D isn't good, but we can't focus all of our picks on D. McFadden is too good to pass up.
DooDooMagoo
01-13-2008, 04:38 PM
not against taking desean jackson at all.. but I dont think you resign housh if you make this pick.. jackson can be the #2 behind chad and he also gives us a legit punt and kick return guy.. but if this is the pick then u better spend all the cap on defense
Treee
01-13-2008, 05:47 PM
No, this would be a horrible, horrible pick unless we trade down to get him. Look at what Ted Ginn has done, and that should deter you from taking a Ginn like player with a top 10 pick.
I would understand if he was on the Patriots or Colts and didn't perform but guess what? He wasn't. He was on the lousy 'phins.
EatonFan
01-13-2008, 06:38 PM
I would understand if he was on the Patriots or Colts and didn't perform but guess what? He wasn't. He was on the lousy 'phins.
Plus how many WR's make an impact their first year anyway. And likely, he won't make a great impact next year as he'll probably have to learn a new system with a new head coach.
rkellydugan20
01-13-2008, 07:15 PM
I'm calling it right now that there is no way the Bengals draft any Wide Receiver in the first round of the draft this year.
NO WAY!
I would much rather draft a solid O-Lineman in the first round than a WR. Carson doesnt require much from his receivers... He hits them right in the hands they just need to catch the ball. You show me a Kelley Washington type guy and ill show you a guy who Carson would make look really good if given the opportunity. I am serious... If we resigned Kelley Washington this offseason and brought him back I feel he would make a solid #2 if needed.
This is a almost a laughable thread.
Bengal Dude
01-13-2008, 09:10 PM
I'm calling it right now that there is no way the Bengals draft any Wide Receiver in the first round of the draft this year.
NO WAY!
I would much rather draft a solid O-Lineman in the first round than a WR. Carson doesnt require much from his receivers... He hits them right in the hands they just need to catch the ball. You show me a Kelley Washington type guy and ill show you a guy who Carson would make look really good if given the opportunity. I am serious... If we resigned Kelley Washington this offseason and brought him back I feel he would make a solid #2 if needed.
This is a almost a laughable thread.
Actually there is a way. We trade back into the first round, late first, and we take one of those WR/KR/PR players. James Hardy from Indiana could be a realistic possibility in this scenario.
Jasonew6
01-13-2008, 09:12 PM
With the 9th pick in the draft the Bengals will take
Wide Receiver from Cal...
DeSean Jackson.
Last season the Bengals were entertaining the thought of Ted Ginn with the 17th pick. It was moot due to the Dolphins picking him, but had he been there, there was intrest. Now comes Jackson. His size, speed, and play making ability either match, or surpass everything that Ginn brought to the table a year ago. Jackson has established himself as one of the premiere wide receievers, as well as punt and kick returners in the league. In my opinion he is the biggest offensive weapon in this seasons draft class. Oh, and it doesn't hurt that there are rumors that he has and very well may run in the 4.27 to 4.35 range.
Some may think I'm crazy, and others may just flat disagree with the thought of this selection, but I really believe it's a scenario that people should brace for. It could be coming...
If the Bengals draft a WR in the first round, I'll puke.
nford
01-13-2008, 09:32 PM
the only ok offensive pick for me would be mcfadden or jake long
EatonFan
01-13-2008, 10:08 PM
the only ok offensive pick for me would be mcfadden or jake long
I can't see McFadden falling to #9. I wouldn't pick him either. We have a log jam at RB if everyone comes back healthy as it is. Don't give up totally on Perry or Irons... yet. We just need to stay away from the Detroit turf!! Jake Long would be good though.
Jasonew6
01-13-2008, 10:11 PM
the only ok offensive pick for me would be mcfadden or jake long
There is NO offensive pick that is ok for me.
nford
01-13-2008, 10:17 PM
There is NO offensive pick that is ok for me.
believe me im the first to say that the problem with this team is Dfense but there is just too much upside in those 2 in my opinion.
Bengal Dude
01-13-2008, 10:18 PM
I can't see McFadden falling to #9. I wouldn't pick him either. We have a log jam at RB if everyone comes back healthy as it is. Don't give up totally on Perry or Irons... yet. We just need to stay away from the Detroit turf!!
Perry has yet to play a full season. I've never heard of the phrase, "Fifth time is a charm." Rudi needs to get back to over 230 pounds, but he has no interest in doing so and wants to remain "healthy." If Rudi can get back to that weight, then I'm happy with him as our starter because I'm confident that he'll return to his old form. Watson is going to be 31 years old. After the Jets and Dolphins games, you could hear the exhaustion in his voice and amazement by how much he carried the ball, and it wasn't in a good way. Dorsey is small, but he is effective in his size so he can be a good ST player and a good 5-10 carry RB. Irons is coming off a major injury and we don't know what that did to his mentallity.
We could return the glory days of Brooks/Woods with a combo of McFadden/Irons. Man that sounds so good to me.
rkellydugan20
01-14-2008, 12:41 AM
I am coming around to the possibility of us selecting Jake Long at #9 (obviously if he falls there, which he probably wont) than maybe taking defensive players the rest of the draft.
With the 9th pick in the draft the Bengals will take
Last season the Bengals were entertaining the thought of Ted Ginn with the 17th pick.
My memory may fail me, but wasn't it mainly the OSU fans who were proponents of this pick?
Personally, I think the first round pick should be BPA, biased towards the linemen. The remaining needs can be addressed in the later rounds.
//K
OneTwistedGamer
01-14-2008, 08:08 AM
I am coming around to the possibility of us selecting Jake Long at #9 (obviously if he falls there, which he probably wont) than maybe taking defensive players the rest of the draft.
Wow you have to be crazy to think we would take him. First he will not fall that far but I guess there is a very slim chance. How could we afford to pay 3 Tackles. We can not cut either of are starters right now because it would cost to much. Levi played like him old self that last half of the season so he cant replace him. I do not think Long could play RT and there are other Tackels that would be better at RT. I also here that Stacy Andrews is going to be resigned so there is no need to draft a Tackle. If he is there then we trade down somebody will want him.
Jom112
01-14-2008, 03:29 PM
I would understand if he was on the Patriots or Colts and didn't perform but guess what? He wasn't. He was on the lousy 'phins.
Dwayne Bowe wasn't in any better of a situation in KC and look what he did. If your a top 10 pick then you have to produce from the start no excuses (Expect injury).
Ginn still has a lot of time, I wouldn't say he had a horrible rookie season, he just didn't do anything that great. If we're going to use a top 10 pick it shouldn't be for a #2 receiver/KR/PR, it should be for a #1 DE or #1 DT...
DennyG2
01-14-2008, 07:53 PM
dorsey slides to 9 and becomes a bengal. i know i know, but i can dream
savedbygrace89
01-14-2008, 09:32 PM
I think that the Bengals would be better off with T.J. being your number 1 go to guy. He makes plays every game and C.J. is just so mouthy... I am so glad to see him do nothing after his little Hall of Fame coat thing... that is the only way that he will have on of those is to steal someone else's in my opinion.
But I also think that the Bengals would be better off taking a MLB or a top Safety in this draft..
codeb23
01-14-2008, 10:46 PM
Jackson is unfreakin-believable! I would not be mad If we grabbed him at #9. I watched a lot of Cal games and he never fails to amaze me. On record this would not be my pick if I were GM because I think there is some top level defensive talent that we can get at 9 but by all means if it's not there no need to reach. Here's a thought, based on the pecking order of this team a young megastar wideout may fit in better than say ocho cinco. Carson Palmer came into a team with a talented receiver corp already in place after Johnson had arrived. With TJ's veteran leadership Jackson would no doubt be groomed into an excellent compliment to what Carson brings. That is just a thought I am not saying it's wrong or right.
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