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franchise
01-05-2008, 07:47 PM
I will update as Juniors declare and offseason workouts start

Extend TJ
Cut Rudi, Deltha, Thornton, Chris Perry, Blue Adams, Herana-Daze Jones, Fanene
Trade Henry for 4th, Dexter for 5th
Compensatory 3rd and 7th pick

Draft
1. Sedrick Ellis, DT USC- Dominates interior linemen with his strength, quickness, and ability to shed blocks. Makes plays in the backfield against both the pass and run and is great at deflecting passes. A leader who makes those around him better and would be a great compliment to Peko who is more of a 2 gapper.

2. Erin Henderson, LB Maryland- Early entry who is an outstanding athlete that makes plays all over the field. Basically only played 2 years of college football, but had all american quality production in both. Size to play between the tackles and is also great in coverage.

3. John Carlson, TE Notre Dame- Hopefully a good TE who blocks will finally fall to the 3rd for us. Great size and underrated athleticism, can make the tough catch too. He's a great 3rd down and redzone target and is an underrated prospect due to playing in a poor offense last year.

3. Keenan Burton, WR Kentucky- Tough, quick experienced reciever who will make a great #2 or slot guy for years. Outstanding leaper who can make plays in traffic and is at home in the endzone. Also returns kicks and punts and is a great leader and teammate (i.e. not Chris Henry).

4. Cody Wallace, C Texas A&M- Tough long time starter who was a great run blocker and recieved many accolades in college. We need someone to challenge Ghiucic and he's capable of starting.

4. Dwight Lowery, CB San Jose State- Dominant college player who actually played against decent competition in the WAC. Great size (6'1" 185) and an outstanding playmaker who was rarely thrown at, but when they did he was more likely to come away with the ball as evidenced by his 9 INTs and only 7 PBUs in '06. Also a good tackler and run stopper. A solid return man and I'll be interested in his 40 time.

5. Barry Richardson, OT Clemson- Massive, athletic OT who just hasn't developed a mauler mentality, though I think this can be worked on. 4 year starter who was highly regarded in college and still has upside.

5. Johnny Dingle, DE West Virgina- Surprise early entry, but he does have good size and production, 18 TFL 8 sacks, despite playing on a 3 man line. Has a lot of upside.

6. De'Cody Fagg, WR FSU- Great size speed combo and decent production despite a shaky passing game. A lot of potential.

7. Trey Brown, CB UCLA- Outstanding college player who led the NCAA in deflections. Also good tackler and decent athlete just lacks size. Good nickle corner potential.

Resign
Landon
Larson
Andrews
Dhani
Fitzpatrick
Tab

FAs
Antwan Odom, DE Titans- Replacement for Smith who is a better pass rusher and not as good against the run. Young and had a good season this year. Good all around DE who could be a steal.

Sammy Knight, S Jags- Reliable vet who is a similar player to White and Ndukwe will be a great mentor and let them develop until they're ready.

Randy Starks, DT Titans- A guy I wanted last year who is young has great size and can get in the backfield. Used to playing in a rotation. Should be cheap after a down year.

Randall ***, CB Patriots- Great nickle corner who can bring a winning mentality. Won't be a great backup, but makes plays in the nickle and our team could use a piece of the Patriots even if he's a role player.

Chris Brown, RB Titans- A power back who actually runs hard (cough, Rudi) and has a lot of talent. Would be a good compliment to Watson and Irons

QB
Palmer
Fitz
Rowe

RB
Brown
Watson
Irons
Dorsey
Jeremi

WR
Chad
TJ
Burton
Holt
Tab

TE
Kelly
Carlson
Coates

T
Levi
Willie
Richardson
Stacey

G
Williams
Whitworth
Kooistra

C
Ghiucic
Wallace

DE
Geathers
Odom
Rucker
Dingle

DT
Peko
Ellis
Myers
Starks

LB
Landon
Henderson
Brooks
Dhani
Jeanty
Schlegal
Henderson

CB
JJ
Hall
***
Lowery
Brown

S
Ndukwe
White
Knight
Kilmer
Busing

ST
Graham
Larson
St. Louis

PS- Fagg, Sanducci, rest undrafted

Bengal Dude
01-05-2008, 09:53 PM
There's no way we cut Herana-Daze Jones, he's our best ST player and does really well for us. We lost a lot of ST aces this past year, we'd be shooting ourselves in the foot if we let him go. There's no reason to get rid of Fanene either, he's an RFA so we should see if we can get a 7th for him or we keep him for a cheap price. Dexter will never bring us a 5th and Henry will never net us a 4th. Dex has lost more than one step and just needs to hang it up since he won't be a backup. No one will give up anything for Henry since he's one puff away from the CFL. I say if someone offers a deal to Fitz and/or Tab, let them walk, we get picks in return.

As far as your draft, it's an incredible draft. I'd be happy with it, but I just don't see it really happening because there's a few amazing steals there. Henderson will probably wind up as a mid to late 1st rounder. Cody Wallace being in the 4th would be amazing for us, but he seems like a 3rd rounder. Dwight Lowery in the 4th would be an amazing pickup, and this isn't even the Spartan homer in me. Lowery has the potential to step up and become a #1 or 2 CB in the league after a year or two of grooming. I've seen him in the 2nd-3rd round range and the 4th would be a bargain. Again, Barry Richardson in the 5th is just another steal. At one point this guy was a 1st round talent, but he' slipped. Yet, I think he's a 3rd round prospect and I'd love to pick him up.

I don't know if we'd land Chris Brown here. He wants to be a #1 and he's using this year to show that he can be a #1 or at least play a pivotal role in a two headed running game. He'll probably feel threatened by the duo of Watson and 3D.

franchise
01-05-2008, 11:11 PM
There's no way we cut Herana-Daze Jones, he's our best ST player and does really well for us. We lost a lot of ST aces this past year, we'd be shooting ourselves in the foot if we let him go. There's no reason to get rid of Fanene either, he's an RFA so we should see if we can get a 7th for him or we keep him for a cheap price. Dexter will never bring us a 5th and Henry will never net us a 4th. Dex has lost more than one step and just needs to hang it up since he won't be a backup. No one will give up anything for Henry since he's one puff away from the CFL. I say if someone offers a deal to Fitz and/or Tab, let them walk, we get picks in return.

As far as your draft, it's an incredible draft. I'd be happy with it, but I just don't see it really happening because there's a few amazing steals there. Henderson will probably wind up as a mid to late 1st rounder. Cody Wallace being in the 4th would be amazing for us, but he seems like a 3rd rounder. Dwight Lowery in the 4th would be an amazing pickup, and this isn't even the Spartan homer in me. Lowery has the potential to step up and become a #1 or 2 CB in the league after a year or two of grooming. I've seen him in the 2nd-3rd round range and the 4th would be a bargain. Again, Barry Richardson in the 5th is just another steal. At one point this guy was a 1st round talent, but he' slipped. Yet, I think he's a 3rd round prospect and I'd love to pick him up.

I don't know if we'd land Chris Brown here. He wants to be a #1 and he's using this year to show that he can be a #1 or at least play a pivotal role in a two headed running game. He'll probably feel threatened by the duo of Watson and 3D.

The only reason I have us cutting Jones is because Busing has played well on special teams this year and we won't keep 6 safeties so I took the healthy guy, although I might change that because when healthy I like Jones more.

I had Fanene signed at first but then when I was cutting down the roster I didn't see him making the team, basically it would be a cut on cutdown day.

You never know what you will get in trades, these probably are a bit optimistic, but if someone was desperate Dexter is still capable of starting at a cheap price and someone might take a chance on Henry's talent.

As for the draft I use nfldraftscout.com a lot for round projections, it seems like the most accurate site. Henderson could move up after the combine but as of now he's a late first or 2nd rounder. Wallace and Lowery seem reasonable in the 4th even if they are steals and I've seen Richardson all over the place so I just threw him in because he seemed like a good fit with potential.

I think we could offer Brown as much as anyone. He would probably start here even if he didn't get all of the carries.

NATI BENGALS
01-06-2008, 03:59 AM
De'Cody Fagg would be a good pick up especially in the 6th, But i would rather have his teammate Greg Carr, If Carr declares and is available in the 4th we should jump all over that but the two 4th round picks you have us getting are very good too. I would rather trade Deltha, Rudi, and Jeremi, Keep Chris Henry and cut D-Jax. Instead of trading Henry for a 4th trade Rudi and Jeremi for a 4th.

I dont think Dingle will be available that late either the guy is a beast. I would take him in the third along with Owen Schmitt. That would seem a bit odd taking two WVU boys in the 3rd but they are two of the best players on one of the best teams in the nation this year. Along with Slaton and White these two do a lot for WVU.

I think Odom's price tag could be just as high or very close to Justin Smith's since Odom got those 8 sacks, and I would rather have J. Smith. Justin would have at least 8 sacks if he had Haynesworth on his side plus he would have more tackles.

Starks if cheap would be a great addition. A nice young DT with upside and a lot of experience. Nice. Will he be a free agent????

Chris Perry is too cheap next year for us to not give him a shot. I think Chris Brown will draw some attention if FA and i wouldnt be willing to pay much with the talent we already have at HB. Perry, Irons, Watson, and 3D could get us through the year easy without overworking any of them if they all stayed healthy. If we could get Chris Brown for less than 1.75 million a year though, yea I would do it.

I like it (though I doubt some of these picks will be possible), but I would like it more if you got Schmitt and a DE (like Dingle, Bruce Davis DE/OLB, or Marcus Howard DE/OLB) in the 3rd

franchise
01-06-2008, 12:11 PM
The reason I have us cutting Rudi and Deltha and trading Dexter and Henry is because of the pricetag, not talent.

Teams will be willing to give up a late pick for Dexter and Henry because they have cheap salaries for their abilities.

Rudi and Deltha are overpriced so teams aren't going to make any trade for them much less give up a pick because they will have to pay them what we're giving them. They'd rather have us cut them and sign them cheap.

Ethanga62890
01-07-2008, 02:01 PM
I don't see a reason for drafting 2 recievers.

warsteiner138
01-07-2008, 03:26 PM
I like the Dingle in the fifth round pick. He was great against Oklahoma. I working on a new Mock draft for everyone.

It will be done when it is done; please everyone I am under a lot of pressure. When it is done right; it will be released.

But I am going to have Dingle as the Bengals fifth round pick. You beat me to it though so; I am rewarding you with a rep point.

franchise
01-13-2008, 12:30 AM
Bump, this was a lot of work