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OneTwistedGamer
01-13-2008, 11:59 AM
1. Miami Dolphins - Matt Ryan: This is a tough decision between Matt Ryan or Glenn Dorsey. I see Miami trying to help out there Defense through Free Agency so they take Matt Ryan.

2. St. Louis Rams - Jake Long: They think about taking Glenn Dorsey but they need Jake Long alot more. With Orlando Pace hurt so often they need somebody who can step in and take over for him. If he is not hurt next year it gives time for Jake to learn the system and the following year he can step in.

3. *Oakland Raiders*- Desean Jackson: This was between Jackson, Mcfadden, Long. They would be better off taking any of those. Al Davis loves those freak of nature. Jackson fits that and will help out Russel.

4. *Alanta Falcons* - Andre Woodson: They want to take Brohm here but they also want to stay as far away from anything to do with a old coach as possible so they take Woodson. Woodson will really have a great combine that will push him up to this spot

5. *Kansas City Cheifs* - Glenn Dorsey: They really want Jake Long to be here but he was taken before they had a chance. They can not pass on a player like Glenn Dorsey who could go number 1 but some how fell to the 5th. This will really make that line great if Jared is back.

6. New York Jets - Chris Long: The Jets could not be happier with this pick. They have so many options for what to do with that 3-4 with this pick. They can fill some needs on the line or he can fill some needs at LB.

7. New England Patriots(from 49'ers) - Darren McFadden: They do not have many needs here so i see them trying to trade down. They really want a CB but none are worth a pick this high. They take Darren McFadden.

8. Baltimore Ravens - Brian Brohm: They would perfer other players to fall but they have a need at QB even though I think they should give troy smith a shot.

9 Cincinnati Bengals - Sedrick Ellis: This could be a DE here but I think Justin will take a pay cut and resign. So the must pick here is Ellis he is a monster and will make this line good for years.

10. New Orlean Saints- Kenny Phillips: They need some serious secondary help and he will go a long way with helping them there. They have some other needs but Secodary is by far the biggest need and Kenny Phillips could be something really special.

OneTwistedGamer
01-13-2008, 12:01 PM
Sorry I forgot to put that ** depends on a coin flip since those three teams are tied.

EatonFan
01-13-2008, 09:18 PM
1. Miami Dolphins - Matt Ryan: This is a tough decision between Matt Ryan or Glenn Dorsey. I see Miami trying to help out there Defense through Free Agency so they take Matt Ryan.

2. St. Louis Rams - Jake Long: They think about taking Glenn Dorsey but they need Jake Long alot more. With Orlando Pace hurt so often they need somebody who can step in and take over for him. If he is not hurt next year it gives time for Jake to learn the system and the following year he can step in.

3. *Oakland Raiders*- Desean Jackson: This was between Jackson, Mcfadden, Long. They would be better off taking any of those. Al Davis loves those freak of nature. Jackson fits that and will help out Russel.

4. *Alanta Falcons* - Andre Woodson: They want to take Brohm here but they also want to stay as far away from anything to do with a old coach as possible so they take Woodson. Woodson will really have a great combine that will push him up to this spot

5. *Kansas City Cheifs* - Glenn Dorsey: They really want Jake Long to be here but he was taken before they had a chance. They can not pass on a player like Glenn Dorsey who could go number 1 but some how fell to the 5th. This will really make that line great if Jared is back.

6. New York Jets - Chris Long: The Jets could not be happier with this pick. They have so many options for what to do with that 3-4 with this pick. They can fill some needs on the line or he can fill some needs at LB.

7. New England Patriots(from 49'ers) - Darren McFadden: They do not have many needs here so i see them trying to trade down. They really want a CB but none are worth a pick this high. They take Darren McFadden.

8. Baltimore Ravens - Brian Brohm: They would perfer other players to fall but they have a need at QB even though I think they should give troy smith a shot.

9 Cincinnati Bengals - Sedrick Ellis: This could be a DE here but I think Justin will take a pay cut and resign. So the must pick here is Ellis he is a monster and will make this line good for years.

10. New Orlean Saints- Kenny Phillips: They need some serious secondary help and he will go a long way with helping them there. They have some other needs but Secodary is by far the biggest need and Kenny Phillips could be something really special.

1. Miami -- Most have Dorsey 1st with Miami to replace Traylor. I'd have to agree. Dorsey is it.

2. St. Louis -- I'd have to disagree with most here. I think St. Louis desperately need a LB and Laurinaitis fits the bill.

3. Oakland -- Darren McFadden RB. Not much doubt here. They have Justin Fargas & Dominic Rhoades as a RB. Pleeeeez.

4. Atlanta -- This one is a crap shoot. They need a lot. So, the best play available is Chris Long DE.

5. Kansas City -- Another easy one. QB Matt Ryan. No brainer.

6. NY Jets -- I look for a trade down here. The Jets have a lot of needs and will welcome extra picks. But if they select or any other team selects it will be Jake Long OT.

7. NE Patriots -- Dan Connor LB. Aging LB Corps. The only other pick for NE would be Kenny Phillips S to eventually replace Harrison.

8. Baltimore -- This will be a bit of a stretch but Baltimore needs offense. The best WR out there is DeSean Jackson WR. They may also trade down. Brohm QB is another possibility here with a new coach coming in. He may want to start fresh with a new QB.

9. Bengals -- Sederick Ellis DT. This one falls into their lap. The Falcons, Patriots, or Baltimore may select him, but I just think they need to address their needs first so Ellis falls.

10. New Orleans -- Malcolm Jenkins CB. This one falls into NO's lap as well. They may rate Mike Jenkins (S. Florida) CB higher (similar to Revis vs Hall in this past year's draft), but they'll have their pick of them.

CincIndy
01-13-2008, 10:17 PM
1. Miami -- Most have Dorsey 1st with Miami to replace Traylor. I'd have to agree. Dorsey is it.

2. St. Louis -- I'd have to disagree with most here. I think St. Louis desperately need a LB and Laurinaitis fits the bill.

3. Oakland -- Darren McFadden RB. Not much doubt here. They have Justin Fargas & Dominic Rhoades as a RB. Pleeeeez.

4. Atlanta -- This one is a crap shoot. They need a lot. So, the best play available is Chris Long DE.

5. Kansas City -- Another easy one. QB Matt Ryan. No brainer.

6. NY Jets -- I look for a trade down here. The Jets have a lot of needs and will welcome extra picks. But if they select or any other team selects it will be Jake Long OT.

7. NE Patriots -- Dan Connor LB. Aging LB Corps. The only other pick for NE would be Kenny Phillips S to eventually replace Harrison.

8. Baltimore -- This will be a bit of a stretch but Baltimore needs offense. The best WR out there is DeSean Jackson WR. They may also trade down. Brohm QB is another possibility here with a new coach coming in. He may want to start fresh with a new QB.

9. Bengals -- Sederick Ellis DT. This one falls into their lap. The Falcons, Patriots, or Baltimore may select him, but I just think they need to address their needs first so Ellis falls.

10. New Orleans -- Malcolm Jenkins CB. This one falls into NO's lap as well. They may rate Mike Jenkins (S. Florida) CB higher (similar to Revis vs Hall in this past year's draft), but they'll have their pick of them.

Laurinitus will not be drafted #2, STL will likely go for Jake Long because their OL is atrocious.

The Raiders may draft McFadden, I would say its between him and Chris Long

No doubt, Atlanta drafts a QB unless they think McNabb will fit the bill.

With Billick gone from Baltimore, they will replace Boller with an actual QB, and Troy Smith is not their future either.

EatonFan
01-13-2008, 10:34 PM
Laurinitus will not be drafted #2, STL will likely go for Jake Long because their OL is atrocious.

The Raiders may draft McFadden, I would say its between him and Chris Long

No doubt, Atlanta drafts a QB unless they think McNabb will fit the bill.

With Billick gone from Baltimore, they will replace Boller with an actual QB, and Troy Smith is not their future either.

Can't disagree with anything here, but one thing is for sure. There's always somewhat of a surprise pick in the top 10 in most drafts. Laurinaitus is mine (but not too shocking). I think Baltimore should give Troy Smith a shot, honestly. He makes good decisions, but I hear ya... New coaches like to marry a QB in their first draft.

OneTwistedGamer
01-14-2008, 08:01 AM
1. Miami -- Most have Dorsey 1st with Miami to replace Traylor. I'd have to agree. Dorsey is it.

2. St. Louis -- I'd have to disagree with most here. I think St. Louis desperately need a LB and Laurinaitis fits the bill.

3. Oakland -- Darren McFadden RB. Not much doubt here. They have Justin Fargas & Dominic Rhoades as a RB. Pleeeeez.

4. Atlanta -- This one is a crap shoot. They need a lot. So, the best play available is Chris Long DE.

5. Kansas City -- Another easy one. QB Matt Ryan. No brainer.

6. NY Jets -- I look for a trade down here. The Jets have a lot of needs and will welcome extra picks. But if they select or any other team selects it will be Jake Long OT.

7. NE Patriots -- Dan Connor LB. Aging LB Corps. The only other pick for NE would be Kenny Phillips S to eventually replace Harrison.

8. Baltimore -- This will be a bit of a stretch but Baltimore needs offense. The best WR out there is DeSean Jackson WR. They may also trade down. Brohm QB is another possibility here with a new coach coming in. He may want to start fresh with a new QB.

9. Bengals -- Sederick Ellis DT. This one falls into their lap. The Falcons, Patriots, or Baltimore may select him, but I just think they need to address their needs first so Ellis falls.

10. New Orleans -- Malcolm Jenkins CB. This one falls into NO's lap as well. They may rate Mike Jenkins (S. Florida) CB higher (similar to Revis vs Hall in this past year's draft), but they'll have their pick of them.


Miami-I think Parcells will want a QB. Matt Ryan fits exactly what Parcells wants in a QB.


STL- The Little Animal will not get drafted that high if he does declare but I do not think he will thats why he was not selected.

Oakland- I could really see them taking McFadden but they love those players that are freaks of nature so i stand by the of Jackson.


Atlanta- Yes the do need alot of help but DE is not very high up the list thats why they draft a QB.

Cheifs- I would say they take Ryan if he was there which he wont be even if miami doesnt take him then Atlanta will. So they take Dorsey because he should be taken ealier but wasnt.

Jets- I could see them trying to trade down but they will love that Chris Long fell into there laps.

Pats- How can they pass up a player like McFadden if he is there. They will nto draft a safety either because they did last year to replace Harrison.

Baltimore- if Jackson falls they would take him but he wont fall that far.

Bengals- we both agreed on this so no need to say anything there

Saints- i could see them taking a corner i really thougt about that but decided they would take Kenny but it could go either way.

Jasonew6
01-14-2008, 08:21 AM
I agree that QB is a top need for the Phish. And I think they could trade down and get Ryan, and be able to address more needs as well. I don't see him going #1 overall though.

OneTwistedGamer
01-14-2008, 08:29 AM
I agree that QB is a top need for the Phish. And I think they could trade down and get Ryan, and be able to address more needs as well. I don't see him going #1 overall though.

I agree they would perfer to trade down and get him but where would they trade down to.

EatonFan
01-14-2008, 07:50 PM
I agree they would perfer to trade down and get him but where would they trade down to.

I agree. Most teams don't want that #1 overall pick (too expensive as they have quite a bit of guaranteed money and often a longer term deal). The only trade I remember for #1 overall is the Bengals for Ki-Jana Carter.... BUST city. Biggest bust in Bengals history with Akili a close 2nd IMO.

OneTwistedGamer
01-14-2008, 07:59 PM
I agree. Most teams don't want that #1 overall pick (too expensive as they have quite a bit of guaranteed money and often a longer term deal). The only trade I remember for #1 overall is the Bengals for Ki-Jana Carter.... BUST city. Biggest bust in Bengals history with Akili a close 2nd IMO.

Kinda the trade for Eli Manning to but that was not for the pick but the player.

EatonFan
01-14-2008, 08:04 PM
Laurinitus will not be drafted #2, STL will likely go for Jake Long because their OL is atrocious.

The Raiders may draft McFadden, I would say its between him and Chris Long

No doubt, Atlanta drafts a QB unless they think McNabb will fit the bill.

With Billick gone from Baltimore, they will replace Boller with an actual QB, and Troy Smith is not their future either.

The rumor is Laurinaitus in not declaring so that pushes Jake Long to St. Louis. I still think the Raiders will go for McFadden. Atlanta is a trade down candidate (along with the Jets), but one of them will stand pat and I believe it will be Atlanta. Whoever they pick, it will meet a need. Atlanta is a mess.

I can see Baltimore taking Brohm too, but offense is almost a given there. Jackson or Brohm -- neither would surprise me.

NE picks an LB, little doubt and with the depth of LB's in this draft they'll get a good one.

EatonFan
01-19-2008, 11:03 PM
Miami-I think Parcells will want a QB. Matt Ryan fits exactly what Parcells wants in a QB.


STL- The Little Animal will not get drafted that high if he does declare but I do not think he will thats why he was not selected.

Oakland- I could really see them taking McFadden but they love those players that are freaks of nature so i stand by the of Jackson.


Atlanta- Yes the do need alot of help but DE is not very high up the list thats why they draft a QB.

Cheifs- I would say they take Ryan if he was there which he wont be even if miami doesnt take him then Atlanta will. So they take Dorsey because he should be taken ealier but wasnt.

Jets- I could see them trying to trade down but they will love that Chris Long fell into there laps.

Pats- How can they pass up a player like McFadden if he is there. They will nto draft a safety either because they did last year to replace Harrison.

Baltimore- if Jackson falls they would take him but he wont fall that far.

Bengals- we both agreed on this so no need to say anything there

Saints- i could see them taking a corner i really thougt about that but decided they would take Kenny but it could go either way.

One of these players we've mentioned WILL FALL out of the top ten. It's a given, but who replaces that player and which team is the question.

ThePekoSquad
01-20-2008, 12:30 PM
1. Miami Dolphins - Matt Ryan: This is a tough decision between Matt Ryan or Glenn Dorsey. I see Miami trying to help out there Defense through Free Agency so they take Matt Ryan.

2. St. Louis Rams - Jake Long: They think about taking Glenn Dorsey but they need Jake Long alot more. With Orlando Pace hurt so often they need somebody who can step in and take over for him. If he is not hurt next year it gives time for Jake to learn the system and the following year he can step in.

3. *Oakland Raiders*- Desean Jackson: This was between Jackson, Mcfadden, Long. They would be better off taking any of those. Al Davis loves those freak of nature. Jackson fits that and will help out Russel.

4. *Alanta Falcons* - Andre Woodson: They want to take Brohm here but they also want to stay as far away from anything to do with a old coach as possible so they take Woodson. Woodson will really have a great combine that will push him up to this spot

5. *Kansas City Cheifs* - Glenn Dorsey: They really want Jake Long to be here but he was taken before they had a chance. They can not pass on a player like Glenn Dorsey who could go number 1 but some how fell to the 5th. This will really make that line great if Jared is back.

6. New York Jets - Chris Long: The Jets could not be happier with this pick. They have so many options for what to do with that 3-4 with this pick. They can fill some needs on the line or he can fill some needs at LB.

7. New England Patriots(from 49'ers) - Darren McFadden: They do not have many needs here so i see them trying to trade down. They really want a CB but none are worth a pick this high. They take Darren McFadden.

8. Baltimore Ravens - Brian Brohm: They would perfer other players to fall but they have a need at QB even though I think they should give troy smith a shot.

9 Cincinnati Bengals - Sedrick Ellis: This could be a DE here but I think Justin will take a pay cut and resign. So the must pick here is Ellis he is a monster and will make this line good for years.

10. New Orlean Saints- Kenny Phillips: They need some serious secondary help and he will go a long way with helping them there. They have some other needs but Secodary is by far the biggest need and Kenny Phillips could be something really special.

I will give you credit for thinking outside the box, I really will, but man. I think some of these things are far off.

Miami needs defense, defense, defense. Miami did not spend a 2nd round pick on a bum. John Beck has been called a younger version of Drew Brees, why would you pick a QB when you have a pretty solid prospect in Beck waiting in the wings.

I do not think St. Louis is going to go after a T. They have Alex Barron still, and Orlando Pace can play for another 2 years. They have a AWFUL defense and they need someone to team up with Adam Carriker. Chris Long is that man.

Raiders will not select DeSean Jackson, he is not a top 10 player or pick. If Chris Long was still on the board, Oakland would run with him or Darren McFadden with a huge smile on their face like they just stole money from a bank.

Andre Woodson will not be a top 5 pick, Matt Ryan will not go number 1, so he will go to Atlanta more than likely.

Glenn Dorsey will not fall to number 5.

palmer_garnett_95
01-21-2008, 11:17 PM
I would love to see Woodson go to Atlanta...but I'd say it's more likely he goes to either Baltimore or Chicago. However, I've read where scouts believe Woodson has the most upside, so you never know. Since we haven't made it to the combine yet, nothing's certain.

I have to agree with most of PekoSquad's picks. The only thing is that I'm not sure that the Rams won't go with Jake Long. I think Pace's injury may push them to pick Long in order to groom him. I think they have to get some help on the line, so ff they don't take Long here, they will probably take a tackle later.

rorschach1979
01-22-2008, 12:11 AM
I'm gonna chime in just to agree with the Rams situation. I have a very good friend that is a Rams fanatic that says it'll be O-line all the way for the Rams. Now, I know there's no real reason to take his word via me, but his reasoning was sound.

First of all, their depth on the O-line is abysmal. With Orlando Pace hurt the past two years and in that retire or not limbo that some Bengals fans put Willie in, they are looking for a replacement. Also, after having invested a huge amount of money in Bulger, they watched him get beaten into bruised/cracked ribs because the O-line was so porous. They were letting pressure and sacks come at an alarming rate, and as Bengals fans we can certainly appreciate wanting to protect a valuable commodity in a franchise QB.

Their defense also needs some help, no question. But with pick #2 and the difference between last season's 8-8 (I think that's how the Rams did last year too) and this year's 3-13 being measured mostly because their offense took a beating, they should look to get that back into form with a good tackle. I would also guess they look to their d-line in the second, perhaps with either Simms, Okam, or a 2nd round DE.

EatonFan
01-22-2008, 07:43 AM
1. Miami Dolphins - Matt Ryan: This is a tough decision between Matt Ryan or Glenn Dorsey. I see Miami trying to help out there Defense through Free Agency so they take Matt Ryan.

2. St. Louis Rams - Jake Long: They think about taking Glenn Dorsey but they need Jake Long alot more. With Orlando Pace hurt so often they need somebody who can step in and take over for him. If he is not hurt next year it gives time for Jake to learn the system and the following year he can step in.

3. *Oakland Raiders*- Desean Jackson: This was between Jackson, Mcfadden, Long. They would be better off taking any of those. Al Davis loves those freak of nature. Jackson fits that and will help out Russel.

4. *Alanta Falcons* - Andre Woodson: They want to take Brohm here but they also want to stay as far away from anything to do with a old coach as possible so they take Woodson. Woodson will really have a great combine that will push him up to this spot

5. *Kansas City Cheifs* - Glenn Dorsey: They really want Jake Long to be here but he was taken before they had a chance. They can not pass on a player like Glenn Dorsey who could go number 1 but some how fell to the 5th. This will really make that line great if Jared is back.

6. New York Jets - Chris Long: The Jets could not be happier with this pick. They have so many options for what to do with that 3-4 with this pick. They can fill some needs on the line or he can fill some needs at LB.

7. New England Patriots(from 49'ers) - Darren McFadden: They do not have many needs here so i see them trying to trade down. They really want a CB but none are worth a pick this high. They take Darren McFadden.

8. Baltimore Ravens - Brian Brohm: They would perfer other players to fall but they have a need at QB even though I think they should give troy smith a shot.

9 Cincinnati Bengals - Sedrick Ellis: This could be a DE here but I think Justin will take a pay cut and resign. So the must pick here is Ellis he is a monster and will make this line good for years.

10. New Orlean Saints- Kenny Phillips: They need some serious secondary help and he will go a long way with helping them there. They have some other needs but Secodary is by far the biggest need and Kenny Phillips could be something really special.

I will give you credit for thinking outside the box, I really will, but man. I think some of these things are far off.

Miami needs defense, defense, defense. Miami did not spend a 2nd round pick on a bum. John Beck has been called a younger version of Drew Brees, why would you pick a QB when you have a pretty solid prospect in Beck waiting in the wings.

I do not think St. Louis is going to go after a T. They have Alex Barron still, and Orlando Pace can play for another 2 years. They have a AWFUL defense and they need someone to team up with Adam Carriker. Chris Long is that man.

Raiders will not select DeSean Jackson, he is not a top 10 player or pick. If Chris Long was still on the board, Oakland would run with him or Darren McFadden with a huge smile on their face like they just stole money from a bank.

Andre Woodson will not be a top 5 pick, Matt Ryan will not go number 1, so he will go to Atlanta more than likely.

Glenn Dorsey will not fall to number 5.

Glenn Dorsey to Miami. St. Louis will pick OT probably Jake Long. They gave up 50+ sacks. Bulger is decent, they just need to protect him. Raiders will go McFadden with a possibilities of Chris Long too. (I agree. Jackson will likely go around #20). Atlanta could pick anything (look at their roster... it's a mess) so QB is as good as anything. Matt Ryan or Brohm here would not surprise, with a new coach. Woodson is another late first rounder. That leaves KC and the JETS as possible Sedrick Ellis drafters. The Pats will take an LB and Baltimore will likely take a QB with a slim chance of taking Jackson if they reach. If KC takes a QB Baltimore may surprise. The Jets are the ones I'd think would pick Ellis in front of us.