bigger faster stronger

[sloppy lombardi slaps]

anybody else in the AFCN (or nfl for that matter) with a 270 pound MLB who runs a 4.6 forty?

[doctorhook18]

Anybody else int he AFCN or NFL that has a 270 MLB who runs 4.6 that hasn't won a playoff game and had only 1 winning season in 20 years?

The Colts have Gary Bracket who checks in at 5'11" 235lbs. (237 with his Super Bowl Ring on!)

Brooks is a tremendous talent, but I set the over-under on him at 10 games......before his first run in with the local law enforcement!

[Bmoreblitz]

Adalius Thomas is one.
DEPT of DEFENSE
AFCN Champs!!

[Buckeyehitman]

Adalius Thomas is one.
DEPT of DEFENSE
AFCN Champs!!

Yeah, he'll be a beast for you guys this year.................oops....awkward.

[doctorhook18]

Blitz....who is taking his place on the D this year?

[sloppy lombardi slaps]

Adalius Thomas is one.
DEPT of DEFENSE
AFCN Champs!!


Was Adalius a mlb?

[Pro Joey 1427]

Anybody else int he AFCN or NFL that has a 270 MLB who runs 4.6 that hasn't won a playoff game and had only 1 winning season in 20 years?

The Colts have Gary Bracket who checks in at 5'11" 235lbs. (237 with his Super Bowl Ring on!)

Brooks is a tremendous talent, but I set the over-under on him at 10 games......before his first run in with the local law enforcement!

Of course. We can't even have a logical discussion without you going off on that tangent. It's funny how they always talk about their newfound SB ring. Makes me wonder what you used as smack before that.

[CalSteeler]

I don't care what a guys measurables are, I want to see how he performs during an actual game. Brooks didn't especially impress me last year. Yeah, he was a rookie and he hadn't played in a while, I understand that. I honestly think he's going to be just a guy, he's kind of on par with Larry Foote right now, maybe he can get closer to James Farrior by the end of the year.

Sorta off topic, but Woodley looks like an extreme keeper at OLB. He looked very smooth in coverage on Sunday after playing DE for the most part in college. He didn't pass rush much but as that's his strong suite I am thus far impressed.

[Buckeyehitman]

Anybody else int he AFCN or NFL that has a 270 MLB who runs 4.6 that hasn't won a playoff game and had only 1 winning season in 20 years?

The Colts have Gary Bracket who checks in at 5'11" 235lbs. (237 with his Super Bowl Ring on!)

Brooks is a tremendous talent, but I set the over-under on him at 10 games......before his first run in with the local law enforcement!

Of course. We can't even have a logical discussion without you going off on that tangent. It's funny how they always talk about their newfound SB ring. Makes me wonder what you used as smack before that.

Hard to smack talk from that cave the patriots put them in every year.
Although, when he did smack, he probably did it with his bare naked ring finger.

[oasiswr]

Anybody else int he AFCN or NFL that has a 270 MLB who runs 4.6 that hasn't won a playoff game and had only 1 winning season in 20 years?

The Colts have Gary Bracket who checks in at 5'11" 235lbs. (237 with his Super Bowl Ring on!)

Brooks is a tremendous talent, but I set the over-under on him at 10 games......before his first run in with the local law enforcement!

Of course. We can't even have a logical discussion without you going off on that tangent. It's funny how they always talk about their newfound SB ring. Makes me wonder what you used as smack before that.

I'm going to venture and guess it wasn't this, "The Colts have Gary Bracket who checks in at 5' 11",235 lbs,and allowed several huge gains (mis-tackles) by good rushing teams averaging 10 -15 yards per attempt".[:P]

[Whatever]

From physical standpoint,Brooks has all the tools. Now,does he have enough of a "toolbox" on his shoulders to run the defense,become a leader,work consistantly,and stay out of trouble? Remember,Akili Smith looked like a god on paper,too.

[Pro Joey 1427]

Anybody else int he AFCN or NFL that has a 270 MLB who runs 4.6 that hasn't won a playoff game and had only 1 winning season in 20 years?

The Colts have Gary Bracket who checks in at 5'11" 235lbs. (237 with his Super Bowl Ring on!)

Brooks is a tremendous talent, but I set the over-under on him at 10 games......before his first run in with the local law enforcement!

Of course. We can't even have a logical discussion without you going off on that tangent. It's funny how they always talk about their newfound SB ring. Makes me wonder what you used as smack before that.

I'm going to venture and guess it wasn't this, "The Colts have Gary Bracket who checks in at 5' 11",235 lbs,and allowed several huge gains (mis-tackles) by good rushing teams averaging 10 -15 yards per attempt".[:P]

Whoops. Did I edit the "huge gains" part out? [:P]

[doctorhook18]

Anybody else int he AFCN or NFL that has a 270 MLB who runs 4.6 that hasn't won a playoff game and had only 1 winning season in 20 years?

The Colts have Gary Bracket who checks in at 5'11" 235lbs. (237 with his Super Bowl Ring on!)

Brooks is a tremendous talent, but I set the over-under on him at 10 games......before his first run in with the local law enforcement!

Of course. We can't even have a logical discussion without you going off on that tangent. It's funny how they always talk about their newfound SB ring. Makes me wonder what you used as smack before that.

Joey, I can appreciate your request for me to come up with smack that doesn't envolve the ring. However, I believe that it is perfectly within my right to bring up the ring equivalent to the number of times I had to hear from you guys "Manning will never win the big game......Manning is a choker.....etc." Could it be you are just a little "edgy" because you can't use some of those old stand by lines when trying to smack Colts fans anymore? If it makes you feel any better, I'm sure your 3 string JV will put a beat down of epic proportion on our third string in just a few weeks. Too bad it doesn't count!

[doctorhook18]

Anybody else int he AFCN or NFL that has a 270 MLB who runs 4.6 that hasn't won a playoff game and had only 1 winning season in 20 years?

The Colts have Gary Bracket who checks in at 5'11" 235lbs. (237 with his Super Bowl Ring on!)

Brooks is a tremendous talent, but I set the over-under on him at 10 games......before his first run in with the local law enforcement!

Of course. We can't even have a logical discussion without you going off on that tangent. It's funny how they always talk about their newfound SB ring. Makes me wonder what you used as smack before that.

I'm going to venture and guess it wasn't this, "The Colts have Gary Bracket who checks in at 5' 11",235 lbs,and allowed several huge gains (mis-tackles) by good rushing teams averaging 10 -15 yards per attempt".[:P]


Nope....you are dead on track when it comes to the World Champion Indianpolis Colts middle linebacker. Lets not stop there!
"The Colts have Gary Bracket who checksin at 5'11", 235lbs and allowed several huge gains (mis-tackles) by good rushing teams averaging 10-15 yards per attempt. except when they play the pathetic Cincinnati Bengals who they got dominated like the fat kid in dodge ball! "

[Rayne]

Anybody else int he AFCN or NFL that has a 270 MLB who runs 4.6 that hasn't won a playoff game and had only 1 winning season in 20 years?

The Colts have Gary Bracket who checks in at 5'11" 235lbs. (237 with his Super Bowl Ring on!)

Brooks is a tremendous talent, but I set the over-under on him at 10 games......before his first run in with the local law enforcement!

Of course. We can't even have a logical discussion without you going off on that tangent. It's funny how they always talk about their newfound SB ring. Makes me wonder what you used as smack before that.

Hard to smack talk from that cave the patriots put them in every year.
Although, when he did smack, he probably did it with his bare naked ring finger.

Would that be the same cave they put YOU in last year, too? Didn't they humilate you at home? At least the Colts came from behind and beat them in a wild game, pity you can't say the same.

[oasiswr]

Anybody else int he AFCN or NFL that has a 270 MLB who runs 4.6 that hasn't won a playoff game and had only 1 winning season in 20 years?

The Colts have Gary Bracket who checks in at 5'11" 235lbs. (237 with his Super Bowl Ring on!)

Brooks is a tremendous talent, but I set the over-under on him at 10 games......before his first run in with the local law enforcement!

Of course. We can't even have a logical discussion without you going off on that tangent. It's funny how they always talk about their newfound SB ring. Makes me wonder what you used as smack before that.

I'm going to venture and guess it wasn't this, "The Colts have Gary Bracket who checks in at 5' 11",235 lbs,and allowed several huge gains (mis-tackles) by good rushing teams averaging 10 -15 yards per attempt".[:P]


Nope....you are dead on track when it comes to the World Champion Indianpolis Colts middle linebacker. Lets not stop there!
"The Colts have Gary Bracket who checksin at 5'11", 235lbs and allowed several huge gains (mis-tackles) by good rushing teams averaging 10-15 yards per attempt. except when they play the pathetic Cincinnati Bengals who they got dominated like the fat kid in dodge ball! "

Yup,it's true,our run game wasn't as good last year (pretty average) as it once was with Chris Perry running also.(Perry lost the entire season, the change of pace back)Yet we managed to get 109 yards between Kenny and Rudi with three key oline guys MIA.

[JS-Steelerfan]

... It's funny how they always talk about their newfound SB ring. Makes me wonder what you used as smack before that.
Makes me wonder if this means you'll keep quiet about it in the unlikely event that you guys ever get one ...

[Rayne]

... It's funny how they always talk about their newfound SB ring. Makes me wonder what you used as smack before that.
Makes me wonder if this means you'll keep quiet about it in the unlikely event that you guys ever get one ...


They'll have to......I'll remind them that they said that you should no longer be able to talk about SB rings after it's been a year.
Funny though....how some object to Colts fans talking about theirs, when we haven't even started the new season yet.
Shouldn't he at least have bragging rights until after SB XLII?

[sloppy lombardi slaps]

I don't care what a guys measurables are, I want to see how he performs during an actual game. Brooks didn't especially impress me last year. Yeah, he was a rookie and he hadn't played in a while, I understand that. I honestly think he's going to be just a guy, he's kind of on par with Larry Foote right now, maybe he can get closer to James Farrior by the end of the year.

Sorta off topic, but Woodley looks like an extreme keeper at OLB. He looked very smooth in coverage on Sunday after playing DE for the most part in college. He didn't pass rush much but as that's his strong suite I am thus far impressed.


He looked good making 14 tackles in the tampa bay game. he also looked good jumping the snap and sacking jake delhomme right through the a-gap. He's a player flat out and if he was wearing black and yellow you would say he's the next ray lewis don't lie to yourself

[doctorhook18]

Anybody else int he AFCN or NFL that has a 270 MLB who runs 4.6 that hasn't won a playoff game and had only 1 winning season in 20 years?

The Colts have Gary Bracket who checks in at 5'11" 235lbs. (237 with his Super Bowl Ring on!)

Brooks is a tremendous talent, but I set the over-under on him at 10 games......before his first run in with the local law enforcement!

Of course. We can't even have a logical discussion without you going off on that tangent. It's funny how they always talk about their newfound SB ring. Makes me wonder what you used as smack before that.

Hard to smack talk from that cave the patriots put them in every year.
Although, when he did smack, he probably did it with his bare naked ring finger.

According the Elias Sports Bureau the Colts have beaten the Patriots during their last 3 meetings. Twice at Foxboro, once in the AFC Championship game.

[Buckeyehitman]

Anybody else int he AFCN or NFL that has a 270 MLB who runs 4.6 that hasn't won a playoff game and had only 1 winning season in 20 years?

The Colts have Gary Bracket who checks in at 5'11" 235lbs. (237 with his Super Bowl Ring on!)

Brooks is a tremendous talent, but I set the over-under on him at 10 games......before his first run in with the local law enforcement!

Of course. We can't even have a logical discussion without you going off on that tangent. It's funny how they always talk about their newfound SB ring. Makes me wonder what you used as smack before that.

Hard to smack talk from that cave the patriots put them in every year.
Although, when he did smack, he probably did it with his bare naked ring finger.

Would that be the same cave they put YOU in last year, too? Didn't they humilate you at home? At least the Colts came from behind and beat them in a wild game, pity you can't say the same.


The key part of my statement there Ghostie was "every year." I'm not denying that the Pats handed us our heads. However, the dual headed monster is gone (Dillon left). Besides, it is one thing to lose to a team in the regular season, quite another to have them end your hopes every year in the post.
Having said that, I actually like the Colts, and don't really have a problem with a fan jumping on here for some gloating. However in my eyes, their reign is over when they get knocked out of the playoffs, whether it be in the regular season or in the post season. That's when the ring talk should stop.......savvy?

[Buckeyehitman]

Anybody else int he AFCN or NFL that has a 270 MLB who runs 4.6 that hasn't won a playoff game and had only 1 winning season in 20 years?

The Colts have Gary Bracket who checks in at 5'11" 235lbs. (237 with his Super Bowl Ring on!)

Brooks is a tremendous talent, but I set the over-under on him at 10 games......before his first run in with the local law enforcement!

Of course. We can't even have a logical discussion without you going off on that tangent. It's funny how they always talk about their newfound SB ring. Makes me wonder what you used as smack before that.

Hard to smack talk from that cave the patriots put them in every year.
Although, when he did smack, he probably did it with his bare naked ring finger.

According the Elias Sports Bureau the Colts have beaten the Patriots during their last 3 meetings. Twice at Foxboro, once in the AFC Championship game.

Wow, so are you just going to pretend those other games never happened?

[doctorhook18]

Of course I am! Just like you pretend the last 20 years never happened!

When is the last time the Bengals beat ANYONE 3 times in a row, let alone one of the elite teams in the AFC, the Patriots!

[Bmoreblitz]

Blitz....who is taking his place on the D this year?
JJ (Jarret Johnson) He is a beast as well. He doesn't have the same coverage skills as AD but just as good if not better than AD in Run support and rushing the QB. We will probably throw in Antwan Barnes or Burgess in there in obvious passing downs. The Ravens always seem to develop great players no matter who they lose. They never miss a beat....like when we lost Hartwell, McCrary, The "Goose", Sam Adams etc. People seem to forget that AD only started for two years for us. Before that we wasted his talent on ST.
DEPT of DEFENSE
AFCN Champs!!

[Bmoreblitz]

Adalius Thomas is one.
DEPT of DEFENSE
AFCN Champs!!

Yeah, he'll be a beast for you guys this year.................oops....awkward.

Naw Dude....the D won't skip a beat. we have so many of the Hybrid DE/LB that AD was. He''l be missed but the Ravens D always stays top 5.Especially when 10 out of 11 players are returning and 5 players had 10 or more sacks.
DEPT of DEFENSE
AFCN Champs!!

[Whatever]

Of course I am! Just like you pretend the last 20 years never happened!

When is the last time the Bengals beat ANYONE 3 times in a row, let alone one of the elite teams in the AFC, the Patriots!

Well,we've beaten the Browns about 7-8 straight. Yeah,they ARE the doormat of our division,but it seems to be more than the mighty Peyton Manning and Co. can muster against the AFC South's resident doormant...the Houston Texans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8b6gCAXG60
I'm sorry,was that Ron Dayne's pathetic xss walking into the endzone while Mr. All-World Linebacker,Gary Brackett's defense basically just stands around?

[sloppy lombardi slaps]

Of course I am! Just like you pretend the last 20 years never happened!



i dont pretend.
ever seen the ending scene of dune? god created arrakis to test the faithful.

[Buckeyehitman]

Of course I am! Just like you pretend the last 20 years never happened!

When is the last time the Bengals beat ANYONE 3 times in a row, let alone one of the elite teams in the AFC, the Patriots!

20? Just because you want to forget the twenty years before Peyton doesn't mean that's the NFL magic number. The bengals were bad in the 90s, and I choose not to forget those days, it makes me appreciate the current team that much more.
As for your other comment. I don't know about the LAST time, but we swept the ravens for three games straight in 2004 and 2005.

[Pro Joey 1427]

... It's funny how they always talk about their newfound SB ring. Makes me wonder what you used as smack before that.
Makes me wonder if this means you'll keep quiet about it in the unlikely event that you guys ever get one ...


Haha what are you slow? Tool. The whole point is that we were talking about a linebacker (nothing to do with any SB whatsoever) and out of the blue here it comes...BAM. "We won the SB we have a better LB than you." If it was relevant to the discussion in any way, I wouldn't complain because it's true.

[sloppy lombardi slaps]

getting back to what this thread is all about-Ahmad Brooks is the real deal, as much as Cowher feared Odell, Tomlin will learn to fear Ahmad.

Before any Steeler fans throw a fit about Cowher fearing Odell, just remember in those two games against you he had 19 tackles, 2 FF's and an INT.

Ahmad doesn't have the insticts Odell had (yet) but he is +35 pounds and about as fast. plus the guys got a head the size of a pumpkin.

[CalSteeler]

I don't care what a guys measurables are, I want to see how he performs during an actual game. Brooks didn't especially impress me last year. Yeah, he was a rookie and he hadn't played in a while, I understand that. I honestly think he's going to be just a guy, he's kind of on par with Larry Foote right now, maybe he can get closer to James Farrior by the end of the year.

Sorta off topic, but Woodley looks like an extreme keeper at OLB. He looked very smooth in coverage on Sunday after playing DE for the most part in college. He didn't pass rush much but as that's his strong suite I am thus far impressed.


He looked good making 14 tackles in the tampa bay game. he also looked good jumping the snap and sacking jake delhomme right through the a-gap. He's a player flat out and if he was wearing black and yellow you would say he's the next ray lewis don't lie to yourself



You do realise your own argument pwns itself? Brooks played in 11 games, he finished the season with 31 tackles (21 solo). He got 14 of those tackles in one game, so what the he11 did he do in the other 10 games? Answer is 17 tackles in 10 games, wow he's the next Shawn Merriman.

Don't worry I won't lie to myself, Brooks has shown nothing and your little pipe dreams are just that. Why don't you let a guy actually do something on the field before you jump right on his jock?

[SteelTorch]

I don't care what a guys measurables are, I want to see how he performs during an actual game. Brooks didn't especially impress me last year. Yeah, he was a rookie and he hadn't played in a while, I understand that. I honestly think he's going to be just a guy, he's kind of on par with Larry Foote right now, maybe he can get closer to James Farrior by the end of the year.

Sorta off topic, but Woodley looks like an extreme keeper at OLB. He looked very smooth in coverage on Sunday after playing DE for the most part in college. He didn't pass rush much but as that's his strong suite I am thus far impressed.


He looked good making 14 tackles in the tampa bay game. he also looked good jumping the snap and sacking jake delhomme right through the a-gap. He's a player flat out and if he was wearing black and yellow you would say he's the next ray lewis don't lie to yourself



You do realise your own argument pwns itself? Brooks played in 11 games, he finished the season with 31 tackles (21 solo). He got 14 of those tackles in one game, so what the he11 did he do in the other 10 games? Answer is 17 tackles in 10 games, wow he's the next Shawn Merriman.

Don't worry I won't lie to myself, Brooks has shown nothing and your little pipe dreams are just that. Why don't you let a guy actually do something on the field before you jump right on his jock?

Methinks it's because the stains from Carson's jock have already obstructed his vision.

[kywcat]

I don't care what a guys measurables are, I want to see how he performs during an actual game. Brooks didn't especially impress me last year. Yeah, he was a rookie and he hadn't played in a while, I understand that. I honestly think he's going to be just a guy, he's kind of on par with Larry Foote right now, maybe he can get closer to James Farrior by the end of the year.

Sorta off topic, but Woodley looks like an extreme keeper at OLB. He looked very smooth in coverage on Sunday after playing DE for the most part in college. He didn't pass rush much but as that's his strong suite I am thus far impressed.


He looked good making 14 tackles in the tampa bay game. he also looked good jumping the snap and sacking jake delhomme right through the a-gap. He's a player flat out and if he was wearing black and yellow you would say he's the next ray lewis don't lie to yourself



You do realise your own argument pwns itself? Brooks played in 11 games, he finished the season with 31 tackles (21 solo). He got 14 of those tackles in one game, so what the he11 did he do in the other 10 games? Answer is 17 tackles in 10 games, wow he's the next Shawn Merriman.

Don't worry I won't lie to myself, Brooks has shown nothing and your little pipe dreams are just that. Why don't you let a guy actually do something on the field before you jump right on his jock?

Methinks it's because the stains from Carson's jock have already obstructed his vision.

Wasn't there a thread started about how great the Steeler's new punter is?

[doctorhook18]

Of course I am! Just like you pretend the last 20 years never happened!

When is the last time the Bengals beat ANYONE 3 times in a row, let alone one of the elite teams in the AFC, the Patriots!

Well,we've beaten the Browns about 7-8 straight. Yeah,they ARE the doormat of our division,but it seems to be more than the mighty Peyton Manning and Co. can muster against the AFC South's resident doormant...the Houston Texans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8b6gCAXG60
I'm sorry,was that Ron Dayne's pathetic xss walking into the endzone while Mr. All-World Linebacker,Gary Brackett's defense basically just stands around?


Dude...check again....You haven't beatent he Browns about 7-8 straight........most of the time your lucky to split!
Yeah....that loss to the Texans really hurt our season......Pretty sure they might take back the Lombardi trophy for that!

[doctorhook18]

... It's funny how they always talk about their newfound SB ring. Makes me wonder what you used as smack before that.
Makes me wonder if this means you'll keep quiet about it in the unlikely event that you guys ever get one ...


Haha what are you slow? Tool. The whole point is that we were talking about a linebacker (nothing to do with any SB whatsoever) and out of the blue here it comes...BAM. "We won the SB we have a better LB than you." If it was relevant to the discussion in any way, I wouldn't complain because it's true.

Numbnuts.....go back and read my first post on the thread....I WAS TALKING ABOUT A LINEBACKER! Idiot

[Rayne]

getting back to what this thread is all about-Ahmad Brooks is the real deal, as much as Cowher feared Odell, Tomlin will learn to fear Ahmad.

Before any Steeler fans throw a fit about Cowher fearing Odell, just remember in those two games against you he had 19 tackles, 2 FF's and an INT.

Ahmad doesn't have the insticts Odell had (yet) but he is +35 pounds and about as fast. plus the guys got a head the size of a pumpkin.

Too bad he could never beat his worst opponent.........himself.

[sloppy lombardi slaps]

You do realise your own argument pwns itself? Brooks played in 11 games, he finished the season with 31 tackles (21 solo). He got 14 of those tackles in one game, so what the he11 did he do in the other 10 games? Answer is 17 tackles in 10 games, wow he's the next Shawn Merriman.

Don't worry I won't lie to myself, Brooks has shown nothing and your little pipe dreams are just that. Why don't you let a guy actually do something on the field before you jump right on his jock?


That was rookie season holmes. Marvin doesn't like the idea of starting a rookie mlb unless he has to. He produced in the games he started. plus coming out of the supplemental draft and having his college career cut short are not good circumstances for being an impact player in his rookie year. But wow he's looking like 1st round talent and we got him in the third.

You can sniff woodley's jock all day and night you'll see whats up week 8.

[Pro Joey 1427]

... It's funny how they always talk about their newfound SB ring. Makes me wonder what you used as smack before that.
Makes me wonder if this means you'll keep quiet about it in the unlikely event that you guys ever get one ...


Haha what are you slow? Tool. The whole point is that we were talking about a linebacker (nothing to do with any SB whatsoever) and out of the blue here it comes...BAM. "We won the SB we have a better LB than you." If it was relevant to the discussion in any way, I wouldn't complain because it's true.

Numbnuts.....go back and read my first post on the thread....I WAS TALKING ABOUT A LINEBACKER! Idiot

Umm, no. Read your own post toolbox. You immediately revert to how we ****** in the 90s (having nothing to do with the matter at hand BTW). Idiot.

[doctorhook18]

... It's funny how they always talk about their newfound SB ring. Makes me wonder what you used as smack before that.
Makes me wonder if this means you'll keep quiet about it in the unlikely event that you guys ever get one ...


Haha what are you slow? Tool. The whole point is that we were talking about a linebacker (nothing to do with any SB whatsoever) and out of the blue here it comes...BAM. "We won the SB we have a better LB than you." If it was relevant to the discussion in any way, I wouldn't complain because it's true.

Numbnuts.....go back and read my first post on the thread....I WAS TALKING ABOUT A LINEBACKER! Idiot

Umm, no. Read your own post toolbox. You immediately revert to how we ****** in the 90s (having nothing to do with the matter at hand BTW). Idiot.


Ummm....yes.....I did read my own post, why don't you....it's the second post on this thread....get off the crackpipe.

[Pro Joey 1427]

Umm, no. Read your own post toolbox. You immediately revert to how we ****** in the 90s (having nothing to do with the matter at hand BTW). Idiot.

Ummm....yes.....I did read my own post, why don't you....it's the second post on this thread....get off the crackpipe.

Why don't you try replying to my post again. I can see where your post is my man, there is no need to tell me.

[CalSteeler]

You do realise your own argument pwns itself? Brooks played in 11 games, he finished the season with 31 tackles (21 solo). He got 14 of those tackles in one game, so what the he11 did he do in the other 10 games? Answer is 17 tackles in 10 games, wow he's the next Shawn Merriman.

Don't worry I won't lie to myself, Brooks has shown nothing and your little pipe dreams are just that. Why don't you let a guy actually do something on the field before you jump right on his jock?


That was rookie season holmes. Marvin doesn't like the idea of starting a rookie mlb unless he has to. He produced in the games he started. plus coming out of the supplemental draft and having his college career cut short are not good circumstances for being an impact player in his rookie year. But wow he's looking like 1st round talent and we got him in the third.

You can sniff woodley's jock all day and night you'll see whats up week 8.



You seem the be the expert on jock riding (sniffing) so I'll leave it to you. Do you think Marvin would have not played Brooks as a rookie if he thought he was the best option at the position? Answer, of course not. Brooks didn't play because he wasn't good enough to play, not because he was a rookie. Your golden boy accrued a massive 17 tackles in 10 games, that kind of speaks for itself.

It's funny you get on me for being positive about Woodley when all I've said about him is that he's looked good so far, so far being one whole pre-season game. You're the one starting an entire thread crowing about a player who has done jack squat. I realize your defense is always so bad you just want that one ray of hope to cling to. That's fine but don't expect me not to laugh at you as you grasp at straws. Again you contradict your self by saying he looks like first round talent all the while scrambling for excuses as to why he didn't produce more last year. Sorry holmes, try again.

[SteelTorch]

You do realise your own argument pwns itself? Brooks played in 11 games, he finished the season with 31 tackles (21 solo). He got 14 of those tackles in one game, so what the he11 did he do in the other 10 games? Answer is 17 tackles in 10 games, wow he's the next Shawn Merriman.

Don't worry I won't lie to myself, Brooks has shown nothing and your little pipe dreams are just that. Why don't you let a guy actually do something on the field before you jump right on his jock?


That was rookie season holmes. Marvin doesn't like the idea of starting a rookie mlb unless he has to. He produced in the games he started. plus coming out of the supplemental draft and having his college career cut short are not good circumstances for being an impact player in his rookie year. But wow he's looking like 1st round talent and we got him in the third.

You can sniff woodley's jock all day and night you'll see whats up week 8.



You seem the be the expert on jock riding (sniffing) so I'll leave it to you. Do you think Marvin would have not played Brooks as a rookie if he thought he was the best option at the position? Answer, of course not. Brooks didn't play because he wasn't good enough to play, not because he was a rookie. Your golden boy accrued a massive 17 tackles in 10 games, that kind of speaks for itself.

It's funny you get on me for being positive about Woodley when all I've said about him is that he's looked good so far, so far being one whole pre-season game. You're the one starting an entire thread crowing about a player who has done jack squat. I realize your defense is always so bad you just want that one ray of hope to cling to. That's fine but don't expect me not to laugh at you as you grasp at straws. Again you contradict your self by saying he looks like first round talent all the while scrambling for excuses as to why he didn't produce more last year. Sorry holmes, try again.

Cal man, you're wasting your time. Don't you see? He's really not this stupid. The fumes from Palmer's and Brooks's jocks have just been impeding the snypases in his brain. He just needs some time to come off his high.

But seriously, while we're talking about Brooks, has there actually been any word about his performance in training camp? Anyone at least have any links? Kind of hard to evaluate a guy when you have no clue how he's doing practice.

[sloppy lombardi slaps]

You seem the be the expert on jock riding (sniffing) so I'll leave it to you. Do you think Marvin would have not played Brooks as a rookie if he thought he was the best option at the position? Answer, of course not. Brooks didn't play because he wasn't good enough to play, not because he was a rookie. Your golden boy accrued a massive 17 tackles in 10 games, that kind of speaks for itself.

It's funny you get on me for being positive about Woodley when all I've said about him is that he's looked good so far, so far being one whole pre-season game. You're the one starting an entire thread crowing about a player who has done jack squat. I realize your defense is always so bad you just want that one ray of hope to cling to. That's fine but don't expect me not to laugh at you as you grasp at straws. Again you contradict your self by saying he looks like first round talent all the while scrambling for excuses as to why he didn't produce more last year. Sorry holmes, try again.

dude you're so confused. if he's not "good" enough why is he the starter now?

I think you're confused about what we're arguing, you say he's not "good" enough than that means he's not talented, he definately didn't put up huge numbers from lack of talent. what you really mean to say is that he lacked experience, which i will agree with.

If what you're saying is true, every player who doesn't put up big numbers as a rookie is destined for mediocrity, do you want to say a stupid thing like that? i don't take you to be a dummy so don't prove me wrong.
Truth is Brooks has all the tools to be a physical force in the middle for years and years, whether or not he will is up to his work ethic, and so far so good. Tomorrow night he'll show ya what its all about.

[CalSteeler]

You seem the be the expert on jock riding (sniffing) so I'll leave it to you. Do you think Marvin would have not played Brooks as a rookie if he thought he was the best option at the position? Answer, of course not. Brooks didn't play because he wasn't good enough to play, not because he was a rookie. Your golden boy accrued a massive 17 tackles in 10 games, that kind of speaks for itself.

It's funny you get on me for being positive about Woodley when all I've said about him is that he's looked good so far, so far being one whole pre-season game. You're the one starting an entire thread crowing about a player who has done jack squat. I realize your defense is always so bad you just want that one ray of hope to cling to. That's fine but don't expect me not to laugh at you as you grasp at straws. Again you contradict your self by saying he looks like first round talent all the while scrambling for excuses as to why he didn't produce more last year. Sorry holmes, try again.

dude you're so confused. if he's not "good" enough why is he the starter now?

I think you're confused about what we're arguing, you say he's not "good" enough than that means he's not talented, he definately didn't put up huge numbers from lack of talent. what you really mean to say is that he lacked experience, which i will agree with.

If what you're saying is true, every player who doesn't put up big numbers as a rookie is destined for mediocrity, do you want to say a stupid thing like that? i don't take you to be a dummy so don't prove me wrong.
Truth is Brooks has all the tools to be a physical force in the middle for years and years, whether or not he will is up to his work ethic, and so far so good. Tomorrow night he'll show ya what its all about.




No sub-genius, I'm just challenging your asinine, and unfounded, assertions. You claim he has first round talent, yet he has given no indication of such. You say he will be a great player citing 14 tackles in a game against Tampa (wow!, btw) yet simultaniously ignore the fact that he accrued a whopping 17 moere tackles in 10 other games.

His being a starter on your defense is in no way a good indicator of talent. You guys have a had a terrible defense since mans ancestors crawled out of the ocean. Yet, you start an entire thread about how great this kid is. Then when someone rightfully points out that Brooks has done absolutely nothing to inspire such extreme optimism you get butthurt.

Truth is you hope Brooks will be good. You don't know squat. That's why your argument looks so desperate, and clueless.

Again if Brooks was this dominate force your pimping him to be he would have played last year, or did you not have injury and suspension problems at LB? The fact he couldn't start at the thinnest area on your entire team should tell you something. So keep crossing those fingers and praying.

[kywcat]

You do realise your own argument pwns itself? Brooks played in 11 games, he finished the season with 31 tackles (21 solo). He got 14 of those tackles in one game, so what the he11 did he do in the other 10 games? Answer is 17 tackles in 10 games, wow he's the next Shawn Merriman.

Don't worry I won't lie to myself, Brooks has shown nothing and your little pipe dreams are just that. Why don't you let a guy actually do something on the field before you jump right on his jock?


That was rookie season holmes. Marvin doesn't like the idea of starting a rookie mlb unless he has to. He produced in the games he started. plus coming out of the supplemental draft and having his college career cut short are not good circumstances for being an impact player in his rookie year. But wow he's looking like 1st round talent and we got him in the third.

You can sniff woodley's jock all day and night you'll see whats up week 8.



You seem the be the expert on jock riding (sniffing) so I'll leave it to you. Do you think Marvin would have not played Brooks as a rookie if he thought he was the best option at the position? Answer, of course not. Brooks didn't play because he wasn't good enough to play, not because he was a rookie. Your golden boy accrued a massive 17 tackles in 10 games, that kind of speaks for itself.

It's funny you get on me for being positive about Woodley when all I've said about him is that he's looked good so far, so far being one whole pre-season game. You're the one starting an entire thread crowing about a player who has done jack squat. I realize your defense is always so bad you just want that one ray of hope to cling to. That's fine but don't expect me not to laugh at you as you grasp at straws. Again you contradict your self by saying he looks like first round talent all the while scrambling for excuses as to why he didn't produce more last year. Sorry holmes, try again.

Cal man, you're wasting your time. Don't you see? He's really not this stupid. The fumes from Palmer's and Brooks's jocks have just been impeding the snypases in his brain. He just needs some time to come off his high.

But seriously, while we're talking about Brooks, has there actually been any word about his performance in training camp? Anyone at least have any links? Kind of hard to evaluate a guy when you have no clue how he's doing practice.

There has been a lot of talk on the local radio shows about how good he has been looking in camp. Here is one article.
http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AE/20070808/SPT03/708080304/

[DaveBauer34]

You seem the be the expert on jock riding (sniffing) so I'll leave it to you. Do you think Marvin would have not played Brooks as a rookie if he thought he was the best option at the position? Answer, of course not. Brooks didn't play because he wasn't good enough to play, not because he was a rookie. Your golden boy accrued a massive 17 tackles in 10 games, that kind of speaks for itself.

It's funny you get on me for being positive about Woodley when all I've said about him is that he's looked good so far, so far being one whole pre-season game. You're the one starting an entire thread crowing about a player who has done jack squat. I realize your defense is always so bad you just want that one ray of hope to cling to. That's fine but don't expect me not to laugh at you as you grasp at straws. Again you contradict your self by saying he looks like first round talent all the while scrambling for excuses as to why he didn't produce more last year. Sorry holmes, try again.

dude you're so confused. if he's not "good" enough why is he the starter now?

I think you're confused about what we're arguing, you say he's not "good" enough than that means he's not talented, he definately didn't put up huge numbers from lack of talent. what you really mean to say is that he lacked experience, which i will agree with.

If what you're saying is true, every player who doesn't put up big numbers as a rookie is destined for mediocrity, do you want to say a stupid thing like that? i don't take you to be a dummy so don't prove me wrong.
Truth is Brooks has all the tools to be a physical force in the middle for years and years, whether or not he will is up to his work ethic, and so far so good. Tomorrow night he'll show ya what its all about.


I would say he's starting more by process of elimination.

[kywcat]

You seem the be the expert on jock riding (sniffing) so I'll leave it to you. Do you think Marvin would have not played Brooks as a rookie if he thought he was the best option at the position? Answer, of course not. Brooks didn't play because he wasn't good enough to play, not because he was a rookie. Your golden boy accrued a massive 17 tackles in 10 games, that kind of speaks for itself.

It's funny you get on me for being positive about Woodley when all I've said about him is that he's looked good so far, so far being one whole pre-season game. You're the one starting an entire thread crowing about a player who has done jack squat. I realize your defense is always so bad you just want that one ray of hope to cling to. That's fine but don't expect me not to laugh at you as you grasp at straws. Again you contradict your self by saying he looks like first round talent all the while scrambling for excuses as to why he didn't produce more last year. Sorry holmes, try again.

dude you're so confused. if he's not "good" enough why is he the starter now?

I think you're confused about what we're arguing, you say he's not "good" enough than that means he's not talented, he definately didn't put up huge numbers from lack of talent. what you really mean to say is that he lacked experience, which i will agree with.

If what you're saying is true, every player who doesn't put up big numbers as a rookie is destined for mediocrity, do you want to say a stupid thing like that? i don't take you to be a dummy so don't prove me wrong.
Truth is Brooks has all the tools to be a physical force in the middle for years and years, whether or not he will is up to his work ethic, and so far so good. Tomorrow night he'll show ya what its all about.


I would say he's starting more by process of elimination.
Doesn't matter. What matters is how he performs as the starter.. We will just have to wait and see if he lives up to billing.

[sloppy lombardi slaps]

No sub-genius, I'm just challenging your asinine, and unfounded, assertions. You claim he has first round talent, yet he has given no indication of such. You say he will be a great player citing 14 tackles in a game against Tampa (wow!, btw) yet simultaniously ignore the fact that he accrued a whopping 17 moere tackles in 10 other games.

His being a starter on your defense is in no way a good indicator of talent. You guys have a had a terrible defense since mans ancestors crawled out of the ocean. Yet, you start an entire thread about how great this kid is. Then when someone rightfully points out that Brooks has done absolutely nothing to inspire such extreme optimism you get butthurt.

Truth is you hope Brooks will be good. You don't know squat. That's why your argument looks so desperate, and clueless.

Again if Brooks was this dominate force your pimping him to be he would have played last year, or did you not have injury and suspension problems at LB? The fact he couldn't start at the thinnest area on your entire team should tell you something. So keep crossing those fingers and praying.


the title of the thread is bigger faster stronger, not future hall of fame mlb...although that would be awesome. once again you love making stuff up.

My assertations are not assinine or unfounded. when you combine freakish measurables and college production, you generally will have a first rounder. in college, he definately produced when he played. he lead his team in tackles as a true freshman and as a sophmore, and was a finalist for the butkus as a sophmore...that doesn't happen often. Of course, we will never know if he would have gone in the first round, he was kicked out of school and we picked him up in the third round of supplemental draft which is also the slot we are paying him for:).

[Rayne]

No sub-genius, I'm just challenging your asinine, and unfounded, assertions. You claim he has first round talent, yet he has given no indication of such. You say he will be a great player citing 14 tackles in a game against Tampa (wow!, btw) yet simultaniously ignore the fact that he accrued a whopping 17 moere tackles in 10 other games.

His being a starter on your defense is in no way a good indicator of talent. You guys have a had a terrible defense since mans ancestors crawled out of the ocean. Yet, you start an entire thread about how great this kid is. Then when someone rightfully points out that Brooks has done absolutely nothing to inspire such extreme optimism you get butthurt.

Truth is you hope Brooks will be good. You don't know squat. That's why your argument looks so desperate, and clueless.

Again if Brooks was this dominate force your pimping him to be he would have played last year, or did you not have injury and suspension problems at LB? The fact he couldn't start at the thinnest area on your entire team should tell you something. So keep crossing those fingers and praying.


the title of the thread is bigger faster stronger, not future hall of fame mlb...although that would be awesome. once again you love making stuff up.

My assertations are not assinine or unfounded. when you combine freakish measurables and college production, you generally will have a first rounder. in college, he definately produced when he played. he lead his team in tackles as a true freshman and as a sophmore, and was a finalist for the butkus as a sophmore...that doesn't happen often. Of course, we will never know if he would have gone in the first round, he was kicked out of school and we picked him up in the third round of supplemental draft which is also the slot we are paying him for:).

Talent isn't enough, though. You need the other 10 guys around you to support you, and you need to be in the right scheme.
Two examples of great defensive players that vanished when they changed teams: Kevin Greene and Rod Woodson.
Both went to the 49ers for a year - and both their stats plummetted. Why? Because San Francisco has a passive defensive scheme.
As much talent as your guy has, my question is how good will he be in that passive scheme, and how much better would he be in aggresive one?

[CalSteeler]

the title of the thread is bigger faster stronger, not future hall of fame mlb...although that would be awesome. once again you love making stuff up.

My assertations are not assinine or unfounded. when you combine freakish measurables and college production, you generally will have a first rounder. in college, he definately produced when he played. he lead his team in tackles as a true freshman and as a sophmore, and was a finalist for the butkus as a sophmore...that doesn't happen often. Of course, we will never know if he would have gone in the first round, he was kicked out of school and we picked him up in the third round of supplemental draft which is also the slot we are paying him for:).


Two words: Omega Destroyer

[sloppy lombardi slaps]

the title of the thread is bigger faster stronger, not future hall of fame mlb...although that would be awesome. once again you love making stuff up.

My assertations are not assinine or unfounded. when you combine freakish measurables and college production, you generally will have a first rounder. in college, he definately produced when he played. he lead his team in tackles as a true freshman and as a sophmore, and was a finalist for the butkus as a sophmore...that doesn't happen often. Of course, we will never know if he would have gone in the first round, he was kicked out of school and we picked him up in the third round of supplemental draft which is also the slot we are paying him for:).


Two words: Omega Destroyer


Haha yeah i remember that from a previous thread. Although i didn't think anybody would take it to heart given that it was in all caps and said "omega destroyer" figured you would understand the exagerration. I do think Brooks will be good though so long he keeps his work ethic up and stays hungry. as i said in the beginning, 6'3'', 270, 4.6 forty.....thats freakish and you cant coach somebody up to be a genetic freak, but you can coach him up to be a good mlb.

[sloppy lombardi slaps]

Talent isn't enough, though. You need the other 10 guys around you to support you, and you need to be in the right scheme.
Two examples of great defensive players that vanished when they changed teams: Kevin Greene and Rod Woodson.
Both went to the 49ers for a year - and both their stats plummetted. Why? Because San Francisco has a passive defensive scheme.
As much talent as your guy has, my question is how good will he be in that passive scheme, and how much better would he be in aggresive one?



we've amassed a pretty good amount of guys who can play aggressively and i don't think Marvin will sit by and let Chuck put us in prevent defense from the 1st quarter. I'm actually pretty excited about the pass rushers we have to play with. Jeanty, Henderson, geathers, Brooks, and J. Smith can all get after the QB.

[Rayne]

Talent isn't enough, though. You need the other 10 guys around you to support you, and you need to be in the right scheme.
Two examples of great defensive players that vanished when they changed teams: Kevin Greene and Rod Woodson.
Both went to the 49ers for a year - and both their stats plummetted. Why? Because San Francisco has a passive defensive scheme.
As much talent as your guy has, my question is how good will he be in that passive scheme, and how much better would he be in aggresive one?



we've amassed a pretty good amount of guys who can play aggressively and i don't think Marvin will sit by and let Chuck put us in prevent defense from the 1st quarter. I'm actually pretty excited about the pass rushers we have to play with. Jeanty, Henderson, geathers, Brooks, and J. Smith can all get after the QB.

You picked up an aggresive CB this year, too. I know they CAN play aggresively, the question is, WILL they?