4 Rd Mock/Off-Season

[TheChosenOne]

Re-Sign: Madieu, Dhani, Landon, Fanene, Fitz, Tab, Larson, Andrews, Jeanty
Cut: Dexter, Thornton
I don't see us switching to 3-4 but we will have 3-4 looks, although that all could change depending on the draft.

I am going to put up a couple of if then drafts:
1st Round: Sedrick Ellis (He has had a monster week of practices in the senior bowl and weighs in at 305, with a longer arm reach which makes up for him being only 6'1")
2nd Round: Derrick Harvey (Dynamic pass rusher who will really put pressure on the quarterback)
3rd Round: Erin Henderson OLB Maryland
3rd Round: Jacob Tamme TE Kentucky
4th Round: Justin King CB/KR

2nd Draft If Sedrick Ellis is gone:
1st Round: Vernon Gholston
2nd Round: Dre Moore DT Maryland
3rd: Erin Henderson
3rd: Tom Zbikowski (Backup, mostly used for his return skill)
4th: Mike Pollak C (Not really sold on Ghiaciuc being our franchise center)

3rd: No Ellis or Gholston
I think if this happens we should trade down
This is my sleeper/I am going to get called stupid for this
1st Round: Rashard Mendenhall (I have even said myself that we will not take a RB in the whole draft let alone the 1st round but I really believe Mendenhall is going to be better than McFadden. I think he runs better in between the tackles than McFadden. Another reason I have this pick is because as of right now their aren't any DT, DE's worthy of picking in the 20th range


On a side note: They are projecting us to have 11-12 picks this year

[lost33cause]

Erin Enderson are and Derrik Harvey are both projected in round 1.

[TheChosenOne]

When the draft rolls around Derrick Harvey will probably drop but if not him then Lawrence Jackson in the 2nd and for the 3rd with no Erin Henderson you can go alot of places
Roy Schuening G
Steve Justice C
Jermichael Finley TE, Martin Rucker TE
Trevor Laws DT, DeMario Pressley DT, Marcus Harrison DT
Craig Steltz, Tom Zbikowski SS
Chevis Jackson CB
Andre Caldwell WR (Although I think his draft stock will rise after senior bowl and combine to at least 2nd if not 1st round)
Eddie Royal WR/KR

I wouldn't mind picking up a run stopping DE and let Geathers play on passing downs

I am really intrigued by this Marcus Spears, Bobby Carpenter rumor of the Cowboys wanting to trade them. I think they are both better than they have played, they are just not the right fit for the 3-4. If we could pick them up for a 4th and 5th (Assuming we get compensatory in both those rounds) or maybe a 3rd and 4th.

[palmer_garnett_95]

I like your Mendenhall idea if Marvin doesn't like the D-line prospects in that area or if it has already been addressed. I think he could be a good hard runner. So, either he or Jonathan Stewart from Oregon could be a good pickup for a good hard runner. I guess though if we get a good hard runner that will help our offense score, that will take pressure off of the defense, but we do HAVE to get some new personnel for the defensive line.

[DCBengalFreak]

Erin Enderson are and Derrik Harvey are both projected in round 1.

Key word being projected, and he's projecting Harvey to fall to the 2nd. I could see it happening, although I doubt it.

If we picked up Ellis, Harvey, Henderson, and Tamme in the first three rounds, you'd have to label that an A+++. That would be pretty stellar. I don't think it is very likely, but it would be pretty sweet.

[palmer_garnett_95]

If we picked up Ellis, Harvey, Henderson, and Tamme in the first three rounds, you'd have to label that an A+++. That would be pretty stellar. I don't think it is very likely, but it would be pretty sweet.

I agree. I really want to see Tamme as a Bengal. Then again, I am a little biased being a big UK fan. I would also love to see us get Ellis, Harvey, and Henderson. Actually, I still have yet to decide with Henderson, but I think that would be an awesome draft through Round 3.

And now someone will say, we don't need to draft Tamme when we can draft Owen Schmitt.

[NATI BENGALS]

We dont need to draft Tamme when we can draft Owen Schmitt.

Thats my line.

Honestly I dont know much about Tamme. He is a bit undersized and I dont know about his blocking skills.

I would rather get an oversized head busting FB who can catch than a undersized pass catching TE who cant block.

[palmer_garnett_95]

He can block. He's definitely not Reggie Kelly, but then if he was, he wouldn't be like a big receiver. Tamme has great hands and was Andre Woodson's favorite red zone target. There were a few times this season where Woodson would have throw an interception had Tamme not taken the ball away from the defensive back. I remember one play late in the season where Woodson threw the ball short of Tamme straight to a defender and Tamme jumped up, reached over the guy, and took the ball away.

Is he huge and a great blocker? No. The guy he makes me think of is Dallas Clark. Not the biggest guy, but he's like an extra wide receiver that can give defenses fits.

[ThePekoSquad]

We dont need to draft Tamme when we can draft Owen Schmitt.

Thats my line.

Honestly I dont know much about Tamme. He is a bit undersized and I dont know about his blocking skills.

I would rather get an oversized head busting FB who can catch than a undersized pass catching TE who cant block.

How is 6'5 240 undersized for a TE.

You guys need to do research before you talk sometimes. Jacob Tamme, can Block, Run, Catch, he is the total package of a TE.

We do not need a FB. We never use them period. Jeremy Johnson is more than able to be our starting FB.

[NATI BENGALS]

Well I have seen web sites list him as 6' 3" 230 and that is undersized. UK's official website has him listed at 6' 5" 240 though. But the last official web site I based my stats on gave owen Schmitt an extra 2 inches and 10 pounds. So who knows. Chances are he is smaller than 6' 5" 240. I'm sorry I havent had a chance to go out an measure him myself.

Jeremi is on the field for a good number of plays in the games. I dont know how you can say we dont use FB's period. Do you watch the games period? You act like we use the TE sooo much. Well we dont.

Maybe we would use our FB more if he were more versatile. Of course the same could be said about our TE. But I think we know more about Jeremi's abilities than we do Coates and Kelley's. The TE's we have seem to make plays just fine when given the opportunity. My argument is that if we under-utilize both the TE and FB why not add Schmitt who would be able to play both, and be an upgrade at both positions. I think he would be better than Nate Lawrie and Jeremi. Period.

Just joshing ya Peko.

[palmer_garnett_95]

I remember seeing him listed as 6'3" and 3/4 and 238 lbs. Where I don't remember, but that's without shoes I believe. So, he would be a little under 6'5" with shoes. There are bigger tight ends, but I don't know if any of them have Tamme's receiving skills. Honestly, I think UK might have done better if Woodson had focused more on getting Tamme the ball. Not saying Burton or Stevie Johnson aren't any good. There were games where he'd send a ball flying over Burton or Johnson's head and I would be yelling "Tamme was open you genius".

[TheChosenOne]

okay well some TE in the 3rd then. I really like the Justin King though, return specialist at worst and maybe 3rd or 4th corner. I also like what I say our of Trevor Laws so I could grab him in the 2nd round if no Ellis in 1st

[palmer_garnett_95]

I'm really liking the idea of a TE with hands(whether that's Coates or someone we draft) that can help make the team more unpredictable.

I also like the depth at DT in this draft.

[rorschach1979]

I'm really liking the idea of a TE with hands(whether that's Coates or someone we draft) that can help make the team more unpredictable.

I also like the depth at DT in this draft.

We'd only be more unpredictable if the coaches, schemes, and play calling became more unpredictable. I would argue we could be more "unpredictable" now with what we have; we just don't think that way for some reason I have yet to fathom.

So taking a good pass-catching TE or a more versatile FB would only really pay dividends in our offense if we actually utilized their versatility. I tend to think this wouldn't happen, since I don't think it's a player talent issue influencing coaching decisions on plays as much as it is coaching decisions on how to run an offense influencing how we use players' talents.

We can only hope, though, that if they see what someone is capable of that has multiple uses that the coaches will then at least try to exploit their strengths on the field. God, I hope this happens this coming year; I don't care how it happens, it just has to happen.

[pledgi]

I really like your first mock, but I think Harvey and probably even Jackson will be gone by then. Shawn Crable is a natural replacement if Henderson isn't there in the 3rd.

[TheChosenOne]

Yeah, I have seen some mocks with us drafting him in the 1st and some with us drafting him in the 2nd. As far as Jackson, he goes anywhere from around 20 to late 2nd.