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shadowwalker
02-14-2008, 03:24 PM
This is who they have Cincy slated to pick up.

9 DT Sedrick Ellis USC Sr. 6-1 308

The Bengals' top need would dovetail perfectly with the best available talent remaining on the board if Ellis is still around. Ellis is the kind of explosive and athletic play-making presence that the Bengals desperately need in their interior defensive line. His good work at the Senior Bowl shot him up into top-four territory on some draft boards, but for the time being we still have him rated below Dorsey among defensive tackles.


Just FYI...here is 1-8

1 DE Chris Long Virginia Sr. 6-3 266
For the time being at least, I've talked myself out of the notion that Bill Parcells will invest No. 1 overall money in a defensive tackle who may not be a great fit for the 3-4 defense that Miami eventually wants to transition to. So LSU's Glenn Dorsey is out of my top spot and Long is in. Howie Long's boy is the kind of high-intensity player Parcells loves, and you can at least defend the pick in terms of dollars, since pass rushers get paid the big bucks in the NFL. The Dolphins will obviously entertain trade offers for the No. 1 slot -- if there are any -- and Boston College quarterback Matt Ryan is the other viable candidate if Miami isn't sold on second-year QB John Beck.

2 OT Jake Long Michigan Sr. 6-7 309
The Rams took a defensive tackle in Adam Carriker with their first rounder last year, so they likely won't take Dorsey. They re-signed Marc Bulger to a long-term deal, so they can't take Ryan. They have Steven Jackson in the backfield, so running back Darren McFadden makes no sense. That means either shop the pick or take the other Long, who would immediately upgrade the Rams' offensive line, which was a source of constant concern in their disappointing 2007 season.

3 QB Matt Ryan Boston College Sr. 6-5 221
Ryan is on the rise in these, the pre-NFL Combine days, and come draft weekend the Falcons may feel fortunate if he's still hanging around when their pick arrives. If he is, he's a no-brainer for a franchise that had little hope at the game's most pivotal position last season. Should Ryan be gone, Dorsey, Jake Long or McFadden all would fill a need. In other words, the Falcons, if they win that coin flip with Oakland for the No. 3 spot, have at least four quality options to choose from.

4 DT Glenn Dorsey LSU Sr. 6-1 310
The Raiders could go a lot of different ways, including trying to shop the No. 4 pick to anyone interested in McFadden (Dallas, we're looking in your direction), taking McFadden themselves or filling the void at defensive tackle created by Warren Sapp's retirement. If they go for the latter option, it should come down to whether they like Dorsey more than they like USC defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis, who had a strong week at the Senior Bowl and has risen to a top-five grade in the eyes of many scouts.

5 OT Ryan Clady Boise St. Jr. 6-6 317
This is strictly a need pick for the Chiefs, whose glaring inefficiency at offensive line last season was apparent from Week 1 on. We had them taking Michigan tackle Jake Long in our first mock, but he's off our board this time. This is actually too high to take Clady, the second-best tackle in the draft, so Kansas City would be wise to trade down into the No. 8-12 range and try to get him there. Anyone coveting McFadden would be the Chiefs' natural trade partner.

6 RB Darren McFadden Arkansas Jr. 6-2 212
With Thomas Jones on hand, New York isn't really in need of a No. 1 rusher, but McFadden may be too tempting to pass up given that some believe he's the closest thing to Adrian Peterson in this year's draft. USC's Ellis and Ohio State defensive end-outside linebacker Vernon Gholston are two other sensible options for the Jets.

7 DE Vernon Gholston Ohio St. Jr. 6-4 255
Conventional wisdom says the Patriots use this pick to find Asante Samuel's replacement once their No. 1 cornerback leaves via free agency. But New England might see restricted free agent Randall *** as Samuel's successor, and thus could use this pick to select Gholston, a pass-rushing talent who projects to an outside rush linebacker in a 3-4 defense. The Patriots need inside linebackers more than outside linebackers, but Mike Vrabel could always move back inside to make room for Gholston, and there also a chance that outside linebacker Rosevelt Colvin won't return.
* From San Francisco

CapitalBengal 75
02-14-2008, 03:40 PM
I like the thought of the Bengals taking a guy like Sedrick Ellis, what they do in the free agent market and with their free agents will make a HUGE impact on what they do here.

If they are able to get a player like Haynesworth, Williams, or Rogers then I think they look to take maybe offensive line or defensive end. If they get rid of Justin then I think they look DE for sure.

carsyn20
02-14-2008, 04:01 PM
You know what makes me ill? The pats getting Gholston.......argg....

Bech72
02-14-2008, 04:10 PM
I like the thought of the Bengals taking a guy like Sedrick Ellis, what they do in the free agent market and with their free agents will make a HUGE impact on what they do here.

If they are able to get a player like Haynesworth, Williams, or Rogers then I think they look to take maybe offensive line or defensive end. If they get rid of Justin then I think they look DE for sure.

The only way I could see not going D in round 1 is if the impossible happens and D Mac slips to 9, even then I would try to trade the selection to Dallas for their 2 1sts. Getting a backup RT that may sit for 1-3 seasons would be ludicrous even if Andrews moves on. I would rather take a defensive player that may be a 1-5 spot reach.

fredtoast
02-14-2008, 04:22 PM
Who was the #8 pick in this draft?

Bech72
02-14-2008, 04:26 PM
Who was the #8 pick in this draft?

McKelvin, which is a possibility for Baltimore.

renaud85
02-14-2008, 04:41 PM
I really hope ellis is still on the board at #9. He has great talent and a relentles motor! Would be great in our front line!

zanetdaniels
02-14-2008, 04:53 PM
Wow...very nice, again...we will see when the combine starts.

cinc4ever1
02-14-2008, 07:04 PM
I think we all can agree we would love to get Ellis but i really believe me miss out on him.

rob the bengals fan
02-14-2008, 09:47 PM
I think I would try and see if Detroit would be interested in trading Rogers for Deltha. They have an over abundance of DT but are very thin at CB. This would help out alot on our DT situation and if Ellis is still available take him and our DT's becomes a strong point. If we did this we would need to draft a CB in round 3 because without O'Neal we would be thin after the starters.

MJB
02-16-2008, 10:53 AM
I think we can pray for DeSean Jackson or Malcolm Kelly to have great combines. Both are very good players, but if Jackson is able to put his 40 in the 4.3s or Kelly in the 4.4s then I think they have a good chance to move up if Run DMC gets taken before the Raiders pick. They need to get tools to make JaMarcus Russell effective, and that isn't going to happen if Jerry Porter leaves like he claims he is.

Ocho_Cinco85
02-16-2008, 11:45 AM
I sure hope it goes down like that.I want Ellis sooo bad.

renaud85
02-16-2008, 01:20 PM
Look at this Ellis video, he is amazing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijMhukAKaa0