Mock Draft Version 1.0 After Combine!

[ThePekoSquad]

Well, the combines are not finished, but I really do not need to see much out of the safeties. So here is my Version 1.0 Mock.


Derrick Harvey DE/Florida
- The reason why this pick is going to happen, Derrick Harvey is a DE in the making. He is fast, quick and strong. He would of been a top 20 pick, but after the combines, he is now a possible top 10 pick.

2. Trevor Laws DT/Notre Dame

- Smaller than most DT's but his performance at both the Senior Bowl, and Combines, have proved for him to be quick and extremely strong. He is going to be a stud.

3. Martin Rucker TE/Mizzu

- A extremely quick TE, that is similiar to a WR. He can stretch the field with his speed, and his hands are extremely reliable. A perfect fit for our team.

3. (Comp) Justin Forsett RB/Cal

- A very quick RB with decent hands. He had an incredible senior year, and his senior bowl and combines were fairly good. A great fit in our system.

4. Marcus Howard LB/Georgia

- His combine has raised his stock. He is a playmaker. He gets in the face of the QB and is very quick in coverage, and could easily cover a TE in the NFL. He can tackle and adapt quickly to plays.

5. King Dunlop OT/Auburn

- This kid is another Stacey Andrews in the wings, but bigger. He is a huge frame with massive strength. Needs a lot of help on footwork, but yet in a year, this kid will step in and be very incredible. A great replacement for Willie.

6. Nick Hayden DE/DT/Wisconsin

- A diamond in the rough. He is a big strong kid, who can possibly play both DE and DT. He is agile and strong and he can get through the O-Line and he can get to the QB.

6. (comp) Jordon Dizon LB/Colorado

- All of our LB's could be gone. Jordon Dizon finished an incredible career at Colorado. He is a tackle master, who can tackle anything and anybody. His speed and size drops him to this round. He has tons of potential.

7. Caleb Campbell S/Army

- He is a small playmaker. He plays with a lot of heart and passion. He can make plays and has good ball hawking skills. He can catch the ball, and interpret plays. A steal at round 7.

7. (comp) Demetrius Bell OL/Northwestern State

- Best Pick available.

[Bengal Dude]

Not a bad draft there Peko, I wasn't big on Harvey, but he sounds like he can be a good player for us, we actually in a position where we can finally land a good player. I still wouldn't mind us packaging a couple od picks and trading up to grab one of the big 4. I'm sure someone up top wouldn't mind landing Clady.

Anyway Peko, I'm all on board for taking a DT in the 2nd, what do you think our chances of getting Pat Sims are?

Also, what's up with the military pick? I thought they had to make a serving time committment?

[ThePekoSquad]

Not a bad draft there Peko, I wasn't big on Harvey, but he sounds like he can be a good player for us, we actually in a position where we can finally land a good player. I still wouldn't mind us packaging a couple od picks and trading up to grab one of the big 4. I'm sure someone up top wouldn't mind landing Clady.

Anyway Peko, I'm all on board for taking a DT in the 2nd, what do you think our chances of getting Pat Sims are?

Also, what's up with the military pick? I thought they had to make a serving time committment?

The Army will allow him to play in the NFL.

Pat Sims, tell you the truth I dunno if I want him. I really like Dre Moore and Red Bryant more than Sims. Sims is a inbetween guy. He can go anywhere from 32 till after we pick in the 2nd round.

[Bengal Dude]

I really wouldn't mind waiting till the 2nd round to take a DT, there seems to be a lot of solid players in that range. I would like to grab a DE in the first because my favorite DE prospect is Groves, but I see him being a late first rounder.

What's the status of Chad Hall from Air Force? I've seen him mentioned in the draft.

[The Stars in Stripes]

I love the Nick Hayden pick

[franchise]

I like it all except Forsett who should be available in the later rounds. He's tiny and not the greatest athlete. He could contribute, but I think we could get some more talent that high. I love Kevin Smith and Ray Rice if either is available, or Matt Forte could be the "bell cow" were looking for. I just don't think Forsett is what we're looking for.

I like the rest a lot though.

[zanetdaniels]

First of all, I LOVE the Martin Rucker pick as many people know. I have liked this kid for a long time now and I think he will be a great addtion to this team.

As far as the Harvey pick is concerned....I actually hated the idea of drafting this guy, but I am starting to like him more and more. I think it took me a while to let go of the idea that we wouldn't be drafting Sedrick Ellis....I hate to say it guys, but unless we trade up he will be LONG gone by number 9. After watching Harvey at the Combine, the guy proved that he has improved on what many though was his weakest point, his upper body strength. I think he put up between 30-32 reps at the combine....almost as many as both Sedrick Ellis AND Jake Long. I think D. Harvey's stock is rising, he looked good....if we cannot draft Ellis or Dorsey then I am perfectly fine with drafting Harvey.

Nice Draft Peko! Rep Points...

[DennyG2]

Nice job overall for sure, although I think Harvey would be a big-time reach, but good job:thumbsup:

[pledgi]

All good players, but I think we need a big stud to play NT if we switch to 3-4. I'd say to go for Ahtyba Rubin in the 2nd. He's a dominant run stuffer that will occupy at least two blocks allowing the LB's to clean up and rush the passer.

[ThePekoSquad]

All good players, but I think we need a big stud to play NT if we switch to 3-4. I'd say to go for Ahtyba Rubin in the 2nd. He's a dominant run stuffer that will occupy at least two blocks allowing the LB's to clean up and rush the passer.

You know I was considering throwing Rubin in there instead of Trevor Laws. But I think Trevor Laws in a 3-4 would be very good. He is smaller than most DT's, but I think you rotate him and Peko, it will work out very very well.

I read someone said something about Forsett being available in the later rounds, he actually is soaring up the boards for a lot of teams. I mean in college his senior year rushed for 1500+ yards and 15 TD's. Darn good numbers.

[ThePekoSquad]

Nice job overall for sure, although I think Harvey would be a big-time reach, but good job:thumbsup:

Harvey is not a BIG-TIME reach, he was projected to go 15-21 range. His combine stats could of made him a 12-21 player, so it is not THE BIGGEST reach right now.

But when Gholston, Dorsey, Ellis, Long, J. Long and McFadden are off the board, do you go with Harvey a speed rushing DE, who creates pressure on the Tackles (even though in the Michigan Game, Jake Long had a field day with Harvey) or Keith Rivers, a stud at LB. He is like a Patrick Willis but more injury prone.

[Pro Joey 1427]

or Keith Rivers, a stud at LB. He is like a Patrick Willis but more injury prone.
injuries...linebackers...injuries...linebackers... I'm having deja vu i think :nervous:

[mrcrockj]

Great draft Peko.

I am sorry that I will have to disagree with the Dorsett pick. He isn't much more than DeDe. If we wait till the third, I think Steve Slaton or Ray Rice will be a better pick. Sorry but size does matter.

Other than that Great Draft.

[ThePekoSquad]

Great draft Peko.

I am sorry that I will have to disagree with the Dorsett pick. He isn't much more than DeDe. If we wait till the third, I think Steve Slaton or Ray Rice will be a better pick. Sorry but size does matter.

Other than that Great Draft.

Something wrong with that statement.

Justin Forsett

5'8" 186 Pounds

Ray Rice

5'8" 205 Pounds

Steve Slaton

5'9" 187.

Justin Dorsett is A LOT better than DeDe Dorsey, he has better ball control, and better hands.

1,546 Yards Rushing, 15 TD's on 300 carries.

He had better stats than Marshawn Lynch did his Senior year.

[ThePekoSquad]

injuries...linebackers...injuries...linebackers... I'm having deja vu i think :nervous:

Caleb Miller? Lemarr Marshall? Ahmad Brooks? Landon Johnson?

Keith Rivers would fit perfect here. :scared2:

[franchise]

Keith Rivers, a stud at LB. He is like a Patrick Willis but more injury prone.

Keith Rivers isn't injury prone or nearly as talented as Patrick Willis. I wouldve given my left leg for the Bengals to get Willis last year. He had like 150 tackles his senior year and ran a 4.38. Rivers can't touch that.

[ThePekoSquad]

Keith Rivers isn't injury prone or nearly as talented as Patrick Willis. I wouldve given my left leg for the Bengals to get Willis last year. He had like 150 tackles his senior year and ran a 4.38. Rivers can't touch that.

Rivers is a similiar type of player as Willis. Watch the transistion to the NFL. He wont be AS good as Willis, because it is almost impossible to find that type of players now and days, but Rivers is a darn good LB.

[NATI BENGALS]

Something wrong with that statement.

Justin Forsett

5'8" 186 Pounds

Ray Rice

5'8" 205 Pounds

Steve Slaton

5'9" 187.

Justin Dorsett is A LOT better than DeDe Dorsey, he has better ball control, and better hands.

1,546 Yards Rushing, 15 TD's on 300 carries.

He had better stats than Marshawn Lynch did his Senior year.
Thats why I would rather grab in this order if they were all available with our first pick in the 3rd Kevin Smith, Matt Forte, or Tashard Choice. We have an abundance of the smaller speed backs who are looked at as not being capable of carrying the starters load (I disagree with that somewhat) Even though I would love to give Watson, 3D, Irons, Rudi or even Perry a chance to carry the full load, I would feel better adding another with a draft pick that gives us a better chance to find that prime time back who will get the majority of the snaps.

I have a feeling the HB who has the best career out of any other HB in this draft wont be drafted in the first rd. There is going to be some great potential at HB when we pick with our first 3rd. Running backs really are expendable, Rudi has done great but he seems to be slowing down even though he lost weight to get faster, if we grabbed a bigger back in the 3rd I wouldnt mind savings some money by letting Rudi go.

I wouldnt mind Irons starting the year on the pup to insure he is thoroughly healed, and going into the year with Rudi starting and Watson, 3d, and Kevin Smith on the roster. Hopefully Rudi performs well, we are then able to trade him when his stock is high for something like a 3rd or 4th (maybe more) just before Irons comes off the pup. And then for the rest of the year say week 6 we get to chose from Watson, Smith, Irons, and 3D. Smith and Irons could carry the majority of the load while 3D and Watson contribute on special teams and in certain situations.

[ThePekoSquad]

Hey Peko:

I think Franchise rang the bell on the "bell cow" right here with these three guys (Ray Rice, Matthew Forte, Kevin Smith). These guys are likely to go early 3rd to late 3rd/early 4th. All have low 4.4 40 speeds. All are guys that can carry the ball a lot. All gained 2,000+ yards last year although Forte and Smith both did it in the defensively lacking C-USA. This is the type of RB we'll be looking for as we've got the 3rd down guys, the change-of-pace guys etc. already covered.

I've been rummaging my mind between our 1st Round choices in these categories:
* DT
- if either Ellis or Dorsey falls to us, are we obligated to bite?
* DE
- can Derrick Harvey contribute on a 3-4/4-3 flexing D? Even with his weight gain up to 271, he isn't heavy enough to play a 3-4 DE. And he lost speed (40 time dropped to 4.80) even though he knocked out 31 reps of 225.
- what can we make of Calais Campbell at 290 lbs running a 5.1 40? What about Phillip Merling only being able to do 17 bench reps at 225?
* LB
- just how good is Keith Rivers?
* RB
- should we consider Rashard Mendenhall?

To get an idea of our expected choices, I think we just need to look at the talent that won't be passed by. Jake Long will go in the first 4 picks, and KC will be obligated to take Ryan Clady at #5. Chris Long, Matt Ryan, Darren McFadden & Vernon Gholston will be selected in the top 8. I believe that the big decisions will be whether Oakland takes McFadden or Ellis and whether Baltimore goes DL or DB. I think that Ellis will go before Dorsey, so we have to decide if we take Dorsey should he drop to us.

If Dorsey doesn't drop or we don't take him, what's our next best choice? I think it's between Rivers, Harvey and Mendenhall.

So let's say Round 1 is Dorsey, Rivers, Harvey or Mendenhall

Round 2 - DL or TE? I personally can't pass on Martellus Bennett if he's still there at #46. I think Trevor Laws will eventually become a brilliant NT. DEs in Round 2 are lukewarm -- Lawrence Jackson is too small for the 3-4 and too slow for the 4-3. Pat Sims bench total of only 21 reps is concerning for two reasons: bench reps has been closely tied to success when comparing combine participants to NFL future play at DT, and this low amount may illustrate that Sims isn't working hard enough in the weight room (a correctable flaw but also one that may indicate a poor work ethic). Dre Moore is an impressive physical specimen but needs a lot of work on his DL technique, the bottom line when on the field.

Round 3 - certainly Martin Rucker is okay with me if we haven't taken Bennett in Round 2. There will be some decent RBs available here (as noted above), and there might be a DE or two that emerges after college pro days. The DTs have really dropped off though from the second tier to what's remaining.

Overall, I think we must find 2 guys for our defensive box as well as a RB and a TE with our 4 picks coming in Rounds 1 - 3.

In all honesty, I respect you and your posting more than anybody on these boards. I just thought I would throw that out there.

If Ellis or Dorsey falls to us, should we take the bite.. I say yes to Ellis, no to Dorsey. I mean it really depends if we go to that 3-4 defense. Dorsey can not play in that 3-4 system, while Sedrick Ellis excells in that type of defense.

Phillip Merling is going to be in the 2nd round. But will he be there by the time we pick? That is the question. Merling has been graded late 1st before the combines, now after his awful combine, he could drop to early 2nd or middle 2nd. So do you want to go will Ellis and hope that he falls into the 2nd round where we pick?

Calais Campbell is a reach pick at 9. A huge reach pick. I ave always questioned his head and his heart. I think he has the physical tools to be a star, but I do not think he has the mentallity to be a playmaker in the NFL.

How good is Keith Rivers? That is a question. But by the time we pick, how good is anybody to be that numer 9 pick? That is also another question you have to think about. If all the big names are gone off the board by the time we select, anybody could be a reach, and Keith Rivers could go to New England! So if he goes, who do we pick? Harvey seems like the only logical choice.

Derrick Harvey. Though I am not sold on any player from Florida, I think he has huge potential. He can not play LB though. That is proven. He does not feel good about playing LB, and I do not think we should draft a tweener at 9. Either draft a DE, or a LB. Don't draft a guy who COULD be both. Watch the Michigan/Florida game. First play Harvey showed explosiveness and power, knocking Jake Long flat on his butt. Rest of the game. Got owned by Jake Long.

Look with the 2nd round it all becomes a crap shoot. We have no idea what teams will want to trade up and take a player that fell out of the 1st (I.E. Paul Posluzny, Alan Branch) and that would cause other players to drop. I agree with the DL-TE idea. I really like Bennett as well, and I think he is going to be a terrefic TE in the league, but Im still not sold on drafting a TE before the 3rd round, because I still am not sure whether or not Bob Brat will actually use the TE in the offense. he might talk a huge game, but will he back it up? It scares me.

I really like Trevor Laws, and I think if we go 3-4, he would be my guy in the 2nd round. He might be oversized, but he has quickness, agility and strength to disrrupt any Center in the NFL.

Also Dre Moore and Red Bryant both have really appealed to me as well. They both had good combines and I think they have solicified their 2nd round positions.

It all depends who we pick in round 1, that affects us in the later rounds.

I know a lot of you all like Choice and Forte, and I agree with that. I think both of those backs are going to be good 3rd down backs, I just really like what I see from Forsett.

Its all a crap shoot.