View Full Version : What candidate are you interested in??????
jmccracky
06-02-2007, 10:18 AM
I like two so far. On the Republican side, I REALLY like Ron Paul. Unfortunately, I don't think he can raise enough money to keep going. However, he's the one guy that both the libs and conservs love. Especially the old school Republicans. Ron is old school. He wants to get back to small government and all the other things that Republicans represent (except Bush).
On the Democratic side, I like Al Gore now. I think he'll run. I was not in the Al Gore camp until recently when I stopped listening to everyone else and just did some research on him.
I know everyone is gonna reply with Al Gore is a liar, blah blah blah, but really, who is everyone considering voting for? Go ahead and chime in with the negatives (Al Gore bashing, etc), but I also want to hear who everyone likes at this stage.
toyota24
06-02-2007, 04:56 PM
I like two so far. On the Republican side, I REALLY like Ron Paul. Unfortunately, I don't think he can raise enough money to keep going. However, he's the one guy that both the libs and conservs love. Especially the old school Republicans. Ron is old school. He wants to get back to small government and all the other things that Republicans represent (except Bush).
On the Democratic side, I like Al Gore now. I think he'll run. I was not in the Al Gore camp until recently when I stopped listening to everyone else and just did some research on him.
I know everyone is gonna reply with Al Gore is a liar, blah blah blah, but really, who is everyone considering voting for? Go ahead and chime in with the negatives (Al Gore bashing, etc), but I also want to hear who everyone likes at this stage.
I like Barack on the Dem side. He's a true liberal and he seems to be the only one other than Kucinich who isn't trying to hide from it. Most liberals like Clinton are way too apologetic about what they are. I also feel like he doesn't bring along the same historical baggage as Gore or Clinton. Those two are like the Bushes of the left. It wouldn't matter if they walked on water, people on the right and in the center aren't going to vote for them just b/c of who they are. Just like many on the left wouldn't vote for Bush if their lives depended on it. (That would be me.)
Ron Paul is everyone's boy now. You must have been watching Realtime last week. Understand that he has ZERO chance. That said, Guiliani was an idiot to dispute what he said during the debates. Rudy is the one candidate on the right that I despise. He's a moral joke running on 3000 dead Americans b/c he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. You like flip floppers? Watch his positions on abortions and gun conrtol, gay marriage either change or disappear magically between now and 11/08. Why do his moral change with his potential constituency? He also has what I see as even less regard for individual rights than even Bush.
On the right, Newt has been trashing the administration lately, and that's always nice to see. The others, with the exception of Rudy will follow his lead soon. Mark my words. They will all do everything they can to distance themselves from Bush and convince the public that they are different. I think Fred Thompson is this election's Wes Clark. He looks formidable from a distance, but can he really hang with the big dogs? We're about to find out. Romney, IMHO will get the nomination. He's the safest bet at this point, with Rudy being Rudy and McCain losing his mind. He's clearly the most solid guy in the bunch.
toyota24
06-02-2007, 04:56 PM
I like two so far. On the Republican side, I REALLY like Ron Paul. Unfortunately, I don't think he can raise enough money to keep going. However, he's the one guy that both the libs and conservs love. Especially the old school Republicans. Ron is old school. He wants to get back to small government and all the other things that Republicans represent (except Bush).
On the Democratic side, I like Al Gore now. I think he'll run. I was not in the Al Gore camp until recently when I stopped listening to everyone else and just did some research on him.
I know everyone is gonna reply with Al Gore is a liar, blah blah blah, but really, who is everyone considering voting for? Go ahead and chime in with the negatives (Al Gore bashing, etc), but I also want to hear who everyone likes at this stage.
I like Barack on the Dem side. He's a true liberal and he seems to be the only one other than Kucinich who isn't trying to hide from it. Most liberals like Clinton are way too apologetic about what they are. I also feel like he doesn't bring along the same historical baggage as Gore or Clinton. Those two are like the Bushes of the left. It wouldn't matter if they walked on water, people on the right and in the center aren't going to vote for them just b/c of who they are. Just like many on the left wouldn't vote for Bush if their lives depended on it. (That would be me.)
Ron Paul is everyone's boy now. You must have been watching Realtime last week. Understand that he has ZERO chance. That said, Guiliani was an idiot to dispute what he said during the debates. Rudy is the one candidate on the right that I despise. He's a moral joke running on 3000 dead Americans b/c he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. You like flip floppers? Watch his positions on abortions and gun conrtol, gay marriage either change or disappear magically between now and 11/08. Why do his moral change with his potential constituency? He also has what I see as even less regard for individual rights than even Bush.
On the right, Newt has been trashing the administration lately, and that's always nice to see. The others, with the exception of Rudy will follow his lead soon. Mark my words. They will all do everything they can to distance themselves from Bush and convince the public that they are different. I think Fred Thompson is this election's Wes Clark. He looks formidable from a distance, but can he really hang with the big dogs? We're about to find out. Romney, IMHO will get the nomination. He's the safest bet at this point, with Rudy being Rudy and McCain losing his mind. He's clearly the most solid guy in the bunch.
jmccracky
06-02-2007, 09:22 PM
1. I did watch Real Time last week, even TIVO'd it. However, I've always liked Ron Paul. I do watch Real Time every week, but I TIVO'd that episode because of Ron Paul. So, I liked him before the episode. I don't understand why you would assume that because I like him as a candidate so I must have only watched him recently on Real Time????!!!! Maybe you didn't mean it that way, but it seems so. Or do you think you can read minds? [:)]
2. I did say that Ron Paul doesn't have a chance because of $$$. So yes, I'm very aware that he has ZERO chance. I still like him. Hmmmmm.....maybe you think I'm asking everyone who should be the candidate for each party???? Then this would answer everything that I've said. In other words, I'm asking who everyone would vote for. Doesn't have to be a Dem and Republican. It could be only one person.
3. Yeah, I can't even look at Guliani anymore. Uggggh.
4. I'm still learning about Barack, but I like what I see so far.
5. I used to really like McCain, but you're right. He's losing his mind.
6. Romney looks like a grease-ball. And yes, I think he has the best chance at being THE republican candidate, unfortunately.
toyota24
06-03-2007, 03:15 AM
Wasn't implying anything, just noticing that Bill has given him a lot of airtime lately. That's his second time on the program this season. I've also read posts where you mentioned that you like Bill Maher. It was a logical deductuion.
jmccracky
06-03-2007, 05:44 PM
Wasn't implying anything, just noticing that Bill has given him a lot of airtime lately. That's his second time on the program this season. I've also read posts where you mentioned that you like Bill Maher. It was a logical deductuion.
LOL! No problem man! I can see that. I do love Bill's show. I know that a lot of conservatives would love it as well, because it's actual debates and Bill doesn't step on anyones toes. It really is totally different than his old show on ABC Politically Correct. He'll give his point of view, but he'll let his guests argue their points. It's the only show in which you can hear both point of views in fairness.
toyota24
06-03-2007, 07:10 PM
Wasn't implying anything, just noticing that Bill has given him a lot of airtime lately. That's his second time on the program this season. I've also read posts where you mentioned that you like Bill Maher. It was a logical deductuion.
LOL! No problem man! I can see that. I do love Bill's show. I know that a lot of conservatives would love it as well, because it's actual debates and Bill doesn't step on anyones toes. It really is totally different than his old show on ABC Politically Correct. He'll give his point of view, but he'll let his guests argue their points. It's the only show in which you can hear both point of views in fairness.
Yeah, I DVR it every week. He's my boy b/c he never apologizes for any of his controversial opinions. I don't give a rat's ***** what anyone says, if people listened to him they would realize that he really does have a lot of conservative views, just not ones in line with the Bush administration. That said, I thought the show with Sean Pen this year stank. It's like he was afraid to throw any conservative meat to the panel when the sacred cow came out. It left Sean Penn making a lame attempt to paint former dem congressman Harold Ford as a status quo drone. LAME. Loved Christopher Hitchens though.
Jom112
06-04-2007, 01:46 PM
Barrack and McCain are my two favorite candidates so far (In that order). Even though they are from different parties and differ on some key issues, I think either one would make a great president.
I don't believe that there is only one way to do something. Take the Iraq situation. Barrack believes in the removal of troops while McCain believes in more funding. Two completely different views but I think both candidates can be successful in executing their course of action.
I know a lot of people don't support McCain anymore, but I think he's still the same person that the majority of us used to support...
Joe from Florence
06-04-2007, 01:51 PM
don't really have a canidate yet....haven't seen much on Ron Paul so who knows, he could be my pick, none of the dem's have impressed me at all especially al Gore and John Edwards....bad bad bad......so i'll just have to wait before making my decision.
maybe i'll just write in a vote for Marvin Lewis
Buckeyehitman
06-04-2007, 02:50 PM
I like Edwards, Gore and Clinton (yes, I said it). Obama is ok, but I don't know that much about him. I think he's riding a wave of what Kennedy did, he's a youthful charismatic guy, and people are drawn to him. How far that will carry him is anyone's guess though.
As for the Republcians, I just love watching how disorganized they are. No one knows if they should pan the current administration or embrace it. Oh, and that McCain Liner about following Bin Laden to the gates of hell, followed by that awkward smile was PRICELESS!
Jom112
06-04-2007, 03:01 PM
I like Edwards, Gore and Clinton (yes, I said it). Obama is ok, but I don't know that much about him. I think he's riding a wave of what Kennedy did, he's a youthful charismatic guy, and people are drawn to him. How far that will carry him is anyone's guess though.
As for the Republcians, I just love watching how disorganized they are. No one knows if they should pan the current administration or embrace it. Oh, and that McCain Liner about following Bin Laden to the gates of hell, followed by that awkward smile was PRICELESS!
The issue I have with Edwards and Gore is as Barrack said the debate "They are a little late on leadership".
Gore had a chance to make some serious changes environmentally when he was Vice President but didn't. Now that he's out of office he is talking about what needs to be done instead of getting it done himself.
Edwards is kind of the same way in book. I think he would make an alright president though there isn't anything in his background that makes me say "he doesn't have what it takes to lead". I just think Barrack is a better candidate.
And then there is Clinton. On the issues themselves Clinton isn't bad. When you compare her on the issues to Barrack they are very similar in terms of Health Care, Iraq and Social Security (Which by the way I disagree with Barrack and Clinton about). But it's the delivery and actions of Clinton that I disagree with. She seems to change her tune depending on the audience which I never liked. Also her voting record doesn't really correspond to what she says publicly (Until after she declared she was running).
But as Joe said, it's still early in the race. Personally I'm a lot happier with the candidates this election than last election. Kerry and Bush were IMO two of the worst candidates I have ever seen...
Buckeyehitman
06-04-2007, 03:31 PM
I don't agree with your statement about Gore. I think he did make strides in the realm of the environment, however there's only so much you can do as vice president. The country was dealing with a lot bigger issues, like the economy and world opinion. Personally, I am still in awe of what was accomplished during the Clinton/Gore administration. Say what you will about their personalities (or lack thereof) or personal lives, but as leaders, they were pretty sound. I would at least say they were probably the most sound administration we've had in the last 30 years or so.
Jom112
06-04-2007, 03:42 PM
I don't agree with your statement about Gore. I think he did make strides in the realm of the environment, however there's only so much you can do as vice president. The country was dealing with a lot bigger issues, like the economy and world opinion. Personally, I am still in awe of what was accomplished during the Clinton/Gore administration. Say what you will about their personalities (or lack thereof) or personal lives, but as leaders, they were pretty sound. I would at least say they were probably the most sound administration we've had in the last 30 years or so.
I had no problem with the administration. I was a big supporter of Bill. It's Gore that I was never a big fan of. I think Cheney (unfortunately) has proven how much power the Vice President can have and how much a Vice President can get done.
The only thing I ever heard about Gore when he was VP is that he invented the Internet...
toyota24
06-05-2007, 03:32 AM
I don't agree with your statement about Gore. I think he did make strides in the realm of the environment, however there's only so much you can do as vice president. The country was dealing with a lot bigger issues, like the economy and world opinion. Personally, I am still in awe of what was accomplished during the Clinton/Gore administration. Say what you will about their personalities (or lack thereof) or personal lives, but as leaders, they were pretty sound. I would at least say they were probably the most sound administration we've had in the last 30 years or so.
I had no problem with the administration. I was a big supporter of Bill. It's Gore that I was never a big fan of. I think Cheney (unfortunately) has proven how much power the Vice President can have and how much a Vice President can get done.
The only thing I ever heard about Gore when he was VP is that he invented the Internet...
Iget what you're saying about the veep, but we're talking about two different animals in Clinton and Bush. Clinton had a confidence and ego that wouldn't let him allow his vp to play the sort of role that Cheney has in Bush's admin. Compared to Bush, Cheney's experience in Washington was infinite and neccessary to shape his doctrines. Although Gore was a Senator before he was veep, I doubt Clinton really cared to hinge his decisions on what Al may have thought. Maybe Hillary, though.
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