View Full Version : Clinton expected to drop out tomorrow
Eleden
06-02-2008, 09:34 PM
After months of being told her campaign was finished... Hillary Clinton has decided to stop sucking the life out of the Barack Obama and suspend her campaign tomorrow. She's apparently gathering key donors and backers in New York so she can announce something that's been realized since February... she's lost. All I can say is... thanks for wasting our time for the last three months Hillary... now get lost.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/02/clinton-summons-top-donor_n_104715.html
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/N/7/2/its-over-for-hillary.jpg
CloeHokie
06-02-2008, 09:38 PM
Bout time.
Bengalrocker
06-02-2008, 09:40 PM
Finally! Now we can focus on the real battle, Obama and McCain.:mellow:
Eleden
06-02-2008, 09:43 PM
Bout time.
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/J/7/2/call-it-a-draw-jd0512d.jpg
I've posted this image before but I still think it's funny. :thumbsup:
CloeHokie
06-02-2008, 09:45 PM
That it is. Lol
Bengalrocker
06-02-2008, 09:50 PM
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/J/7/2/call-it-a-draw-jd0512d.jpg
I've posted this image before but I still think it's funny. :thumbsup:
Man that movie cracks me up every time I see it!:rotf::Clap::thumbsup:
Eleden
06-02-2008, 10:24 PM
I forgot to put this in the politics/religion forum.
If a mod could move it there... I'd appreciate it. :smirk:
Treee
06-02-2008, 10:38 PM
I don't like Mccain "The not really a republican" republican and just don't really like Obama.
Eleden
06-02-2008, 11:10 PM
I don't like Mccain "The not really a republican" republican and just don't really like Obama.
Then vote third party. Don't listen to the morons who say you're wasting your vote.
Eleden
06-03-2008, 01:28 AM
Mega-Hillary Bump
BANJAXED
06-03-2008, 10:29 AM
Then vote third party. Don't listen to the morons who say you're wasting your vote.
But the probability of the third party winning = 0% and this is going to be a tight race.
In my eyes: McCain > Obama
But, I'd look at who is the "least worst" would be given your personal situation and go with that one.
barryllium
06-03-2008, 11:01 AM
But the probability of the third party winning = 0% and this is going to be a tight race.
In my eyes: McCain > Obama
But, I'd look at who is the "least worst" would be given your personal situation and go with that one.
Correct me if I'm wrong, though - but if a third party gets enough votes (or percentage of votes), don't they get federal campaign funding in the next election? While I'm all for dissolving party affiliations to begin with, I'll take three parties over two right now.
Rayne
06-03-2008, 11:05 AM
After months of being told her campaign was finished... Hillary Clinton has decided to stop sucking the life out of the Barack Obama and suspend her campaign tomorrow. She's apparently gathering key donors and backers in New York so she can announce something that's been realized since February... she's lost. All I can say is... thanks for wasting our time for the last three months Hillary... now get lost.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/02/clinton-summons-top-donor_n_104715.html
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/N/7/2/its-over-for-hillary.jpg
I'm not really sure why you're happy about this - polls indicate that McCain beats Obama but would lose to Clinton.
jamiethelanky
06-03-2008, 11:46 AM
I'm not really sure why you're happy about this - polls indicate that McCain beats Obama but would lose to Clinton.
Because some things are bigger than party politics. Fielding a good candidate is one.
Eleden
06-03-2008, 12:41 PM
I'm not really sure why you're happy about this - polls indicate that McCain beats Obama but would lose to Clinton.
Right now polls are generally worthless since the election is so far away. General election polls had Kerry beating Bush around this time. Anyways, I'm happy because this race was forcing Obama to spend unnecessary amounts of time and money focusing on beating Hillary. Now he can focus on the general election without her popping up from the shadows.
Rayne
06-03-2008, 01:30 PM
Because some things are bigger than party politics. Fielding a good candidate is one.
So, it's more important to field a good candidate that you know is going to lose than having someone come out that could actually win?
Only in the DNC, I guess.
barryllium
06-03-2008, 01:43 PM
So, it's more important to field a good candidate that you know is going to lose than having someone come out that could actually win?
Only in the DNC, I guess.
If you go back in the polls a few months (right after Super Tuesday, I believe), Obama was up. At this point, those polls mean little. Once Hillary "backs" Obama's campaign (you know, like Romney is backing McCain now), all her "low-info" supporters will hop on the Obama bandwagon. And once we get into Rep vs. Dem debates, many other Clinton supporters will side with Obama due to his stance over McCain's. To base "who will win" on the polls right now, when many Obama and Clinton supporters are so tired of the other candidate that they will say they will vote for McCain over the other right now - when a decent size portion (if not the majority) of them will end up voting for Obama.
Besides, if C.J. can come back to the Bengals (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3424063), Clinton supporters can come back to the Democratic party.
Rayne
06-03-2008, 01:50 PM
If you go back in the polls a few months (right after Super Tuesday, I believe), Obama was up. At this point, those polls mean little. Once Hillary "backs" Obama's campaign (you know, like Romney is backing McCain now), all her "low-info" supporters will hop on the Obama bandwagon. And once we get into Rep vs. Dem debates, many other Clinton supporters will side with Obama due to his stance over McCain's. To base "who will win" on the polls right now, when many Obama and Clinton supporters are so tired of the other candidate that they will say they will vote for McCain over the other right now - when a decent size portion (if not the majority) of them will end up voting for Obama.
Besides, if C.J. can come back to the Bengals (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3424063), Clinton supporters can come back to the Democratic party.
A lot of Clinton supporters said they wont back Obama.
I think Obama would be wise to choose Hillary as his VP.
Eleden
06-03-2008, 01:53 PM
A lot of Clinton supporters said they wont back Obama.
I think Obama would be wise to choose Hillary as his VP.
A lot of those "supporters" who said they wouldn't back Obama were mainly Republicans voting for Hillary to keep the primaries going.
I'm positive that most of the Clintonistas who said they'd vote McCain this November will slowly drift towards Obama once they find out John wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years.
As for Clinton being the VP... I think it's a possibility but I wouldn't do it in his position. She's got a ton of baggage, is fairly gaffe-prone, and limits his message of change. If he was interested in healing the party... he should probably run with an elected official that endorsed Clinton. (e.g. Ted Strickland)
barryllium
06-03-2008, 01:55 PM
A lot of Clinton supporters said they wont back Obama.
I think Obama would be wise to choose Hillary as his VP.
Yeah, a lot of people say they won't cheer for Chad Johnson, too. In the end, a lot can happen in the next 5+ months to change the minds of Clinton supporters. Besides, those polls assume those people will vote for McCain instead of Obama - when it's more than likely that they won't vote at all.
As far as Obama taking Hillary on as his VP, that's a double edged sword. It will rub a lot of his current supporters the wrong way, give the Republicans even more ammo, and they seem to clash in their stance on things in a few too many ways for it to not look 100% political. If Obama were to choose another woman who closely shared his views, though - that would do a lot to bring in a grand portion of the "low-info" Clinton supporters, such as those that base at least part of their vote on the fact that she is a woman (because we'd all be naive to say that no one is doing that).
BANJAXED
06-03-2008, 05:11 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, though - but if a third party gets enough votes (or percentage of votes), don't they get federal campaign funding in the next election? While I'm all for dissolving party affiliations to begin with, I'll take three parties over two right now.
So which election are you voting for then? This one or next? I'll vote for the next election ...next election. :p
Rayne
06-03-2008, 05:25 PM
A lot of those "supporters" who said they wouldn't back Obama were mainly Republicans voting for Hillary to keep the primaries going.
I'm positive that most of the Clintonistas who said they'd vote McCain this November will slowly drift towards Obama once they find out John wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years.
As for Clinton being the VP... I think it's a possibility but I wouldn't do it in his position. She's got a ton of baggage, is fairly gaffe-prone, and limits his message of change. If he was interested in healing the party... he should probably run with an elected official that endorsed Clinton. (e.g. Ted Strickland)
You ARE aware we're still IN Germany and Japan even 60 years after the WWII ended, right?
cinc4ever1
06-03-2008, 05:29 PM
A lot of those "supporters" who said they wouldn't back Obama were mainly Republicans voting for Hillary to keep the primaries going.
I'm positive that most of the Clintonistas who said they'd vote McCain this November will slowly drift towards Obama once they find out John wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years.
As for Clinton being the VP... I think it's a possibility but I wouldn't do it in his position. She's got a ton of baggage, is fairly gaffe-prone, and limits his message of change. If he was interested in healing the party... he should probably run with an elected official that endorsed Clinton. (e.g. Ted Strickland)
I agree it's only a matter of time.
barryllium
06-03-2008, 05:44 PM
So which election are you voting for then? This one or next? I'll vote for the next election ...next election. :p
I'm voting Obama - but for someone who didn't like either the Rep. or Dem. candidate, but did like another candidate, it's a reason their vote still counts.
busamboy
06-03-2008, 05:48 PM
I don't even see why you guys care, its not like we really have a say in who gets elected anyway!:angry:
Carson4mvp
06-03-2008, 06:08 PM
A lot of Clinton supporters said they wont back Obama.
I think Obama would be wise to choose Hillary as his VP.
Thats not going to happen
Rayne
06-03-2008, 08:11 PM
Thats not going to happen
Probably not....but it would get him the white house.
Eleden
06-03-2008, 10:02 PM
I don't even see why you guys care, its not like we really have a say in who gets elected anyway!:angry:
Are you questioning the perfect electoral college? Terrorist! ;)
EatonFan
06-03-2008, 10:19 PM
Probably not....but it would get him the white house.
Not sure that Hillary as a VP would get him the white house. It would look too political and Hillary and Bill would constantly overshadow Obama all during his Presidency. I don't think a lot of people would like that, especially the independents which are the block that will likely decide the election come November.
Not saying it won't happen, but odds are... it won't.
Eleden
06-03-2008, 10:24 PM
Not sure that Hillary as a VP would get him the white house. It would look too political and Hillary and Bill would constantly overshadow Obama all during his Presidency. I don't think a lot of people would like that, especially the independents which are the block that will likely decide the election come November.
Not saying it won't happen, but odds are... it won't.
That's why Obama's not going to do it. The Clinton family has consistently insulted him and I'm sure he hates them. Even top Democrats like Nancy Pelosi don't think the "dream ticket" is going to happen.
I'd say the top two being considered right now are Kathleen Sebelius and Ted Strickland.
BANJAXED
06-04-2008, 08:59 AM
Not sure that Hillary as a VP would get him the white house. It would look too political and Hillary and Bill would constantly overshadow Obama all during his Presidency. I don't think a lot of people would like that, especially the independents which are the block that will likely decide the election come November.
Not saying it won't happen, but odds are... it won't.
Too much crap has been flung between them for this to happen.
I can't stand bill either. I live for the day that I don't see his ugly mug on tv anymore. :angry:
pookdogg7
06-04-2008, 04:03 PM
She still hasn't stepped down...
http://imgcash6.imageshack.us/img176/3073/hillws8.jpg
Rayne
06-04-2008, 04:05 PM
She still hasn't stepped down...
http://imgcash6.imageshack.us/img176/3073/hillws8.jpg
Good for her!
As long as she thinks she has a chance to win, fight on!
BANJAXED
06-04-2008, 04:16 PM
She still hasn't stepped down...
http://imgcash6.imageshack.us/img176/3073/hillws8.jpg
I've sometimes wondered :hmm: she is a little "masculine" and Bill does like those kind of women.
Drop. Out. It's O-V-E-R.
Eleden
06-04-2008, 09:40 PM
Clinton will drop out this Saturday and endorse Barack Obama for President.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/04/democrats.wednesday/index.html
Thank god! The wicked witch is finally dead.
Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you - tomorrow, you're always a day away...
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