13 year old girl leaves UN speechless

[Eleden]

A young girl points out the disastrous future the world community is leaving her generation. Foreign diplomats can only stare in disbelief as a 13 year old pwns them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8kQfBvHjac

[Alias]

A young girl points out the disastrous future the world community is leaving her generation. Foreign diplomats can only stare in disbelief as a 13 year old pwns them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8kQfBvHjac

That's pretty cool. I cant help but wonder if she wrote all that though.

[Eleden]

That's pretty cool. I cant help but wonder if she wrote all that though.

Yeah I was thinking that too. Even if she didn't write it... she still seemed to deliver a passionate speech.

[Buckeyehitman]

I think she left a lot of us speechless. We can learn a lot from that little girl.

[GoldenArm9]

Oh brother ..i had to stop the video when she said she couldn't go outside because of the holes in ozone ....:scared2:...well maybe she's right ..the ozone is scorching the area where holes are ...and the sun makes pretty designs ...http://blog.mikezhang.com/wp-content/upload/Mayans22.jpg

It's time to stop global warming ....the U.N. needs to ask countries to help fund putting caps on these ....
http://www.ecoenquirer.com/EPA-volcanoes.jpg
Wait ...the U.N. has a plan in place to cap Volcanoes ..so bye bye Mt.St. Helens
And leading the way is Mr.Spock ..".Dr. Vulcan said that state officials will have a much easier time than some countries will have if the United Nations Volcanic Emissions Negation Treaty (UN-VENT) is ratified. She explained that volcanoes in the United States are not nearly as explosive as volcanoes in other countries. For instance, the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo in the Phillipines in June of 1991 emitted millions of tons of sulfur, a pollution event that is well beyond what can be cleansed by scrubber technology now widely used at coal-fired power plants"
Do i hear in the background Mr.Scott saying "I'm giving you all the power i can Captain". :rotf:
Using kids to further agenda's is reprehensible ...

[Eleden]

Oh brother ..i had to stop the video when she said she couldn't go outside because of the holes in ozone ....:scared2:...well maybe she's right ..the ozone is scorching the area where holes are ...and the sun makes pretty designs ...http://blog.mikezhang.com/wp-content/upload/Mayans22.jpg

It's time to stop global warming ....the U.N. needs to ask countries to help fund putting caps on these ....
http://www.ecoenquirer.com/EPA-volcanoes.jpg
Wait ...the U.N. has a plan in place to cap Volcanoes ..so bye bye Mt.St. Helens
And leading the way is Mr.Spock ..".Dr. Vulcan said that state officials will have a much easier time than some countries will have if the United Nations Volcanic Emissions Negation Treaty (UN-VENT) is ratified. She explained that volcanoes in the United States are not nearly as explosive as volcanoes in other countries. For instance, the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo in the Phillipines in June of 1991 emitted millions of tons of sulfur, a pollution event that is well beyond what can be cleansed by scrubber technology now widely used at coal-fired power plants"
Do i hear in the background Mr.Scott saying "I'm giving you all the power i can Captain". :rotf:
Using kids to further agenda's is reprehensible ...

Thank you for finally proving you have absolutely no scientific knowledge whatsoever. No where in that video (you'd probably know that if you watched it) did she say anything about Global Warming. The destruction of the ozone isn't caused by greenhouse gases, it's caused by CFC's. A substance which has now been phased out due to proven scientific research showing their harmful effects on the environment.

And are you really mocking the belief that CFC's are harmful? An idea that has near universal support by the entire scientific community, world governments, and even some of the most conservative minds in America? Nevermind that though, after all you and President Bush are the leading experts on the environment. <_<

Maybe that 13 year old should teach you a few science lessons.

By the way I wasn't using that video for any agenda. I merely thought it was amazing that a young articulate child cared so much about the planet and the generation of people growing up with her. Of course leave it to you to completely distort my intentions... If anything, mocking the good intentions of children is reprehensible.

[GoldenArm9]

Thank you for finally proving you have absolutely no scientific knowledge whatsoever. No where in that video (you'd probably know that if you watched it) did she say anything about Global Warming. The destruction of the ozone isn't caused by greenhouse gases, it's caused by CFC's. A substance which has now been phased out due to proven scientific research showing their harmful effects on the environment.

And are you really mocking the belief that CFC's are harmful? An idea that has near universal support by the entire scientific community, world governments, and even some of the most conservative minds in America? Nevermind that though, after all you and President Bush are the leading experts on the environment. <_<

Maybe that 13 year old should teach you a few science lessons.
Here are some potential "Environmental " posters I''ll make ...
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/DES/D834%7ESmokey-Bear-Only-You.jpg
CAN PREVENT VOLCANOES

http://vnmedia.ign.com/warhammervault.ign.com/images/Misc/Borg.jpg

MT.ST.HELENS RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.YOU WILL BE CAPPED
:rotf:

[Eleden]

Here are some potential "Environmental " posters I''ll make ...
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/DES/D834%7ESmokey-Bear-Only-You.jpg
CAN PREVENT VOLCANOES

http://vnmedia.ign.com/warhammervault.ign.com/images/Misc/Borg.jpg

MT.ST.HELENS RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.YOU WILL BE CAPPED
:rotf:


I realize facts and logic are a foreign concept to you, so I completely understand why you didn't read/ignored my reply.

Do me a favor though, instead of posting in this thread... go off and ramble to yourself in a corner so no one has to hear it.

[GoldenArm9]

I realize facts and logic are a foreign concept to you, so I completely understand why you didn't read/ignored my reply.

Do me a favor though, instead of posting in this thread... go off and ramble to yourself in a corner so no one has to hear it.
:rotf:..and the answer is a No....and to quote Marty Brennaman "How we lookin now":thumbsup:

[Eleden]

:rotf:..and the answer is a No....and to quote Marty Brennaman "How we lookin now":thumbsup:

Meh, if embarassing yourself is your goal in life... then I certainly won't stand in your way. <_<

[GoldenArm9]

http://mywebsite.register.com/db5/00464/hollywood2you.tv/_download/toxicavenger-tm.jpg


FASTER THAN A SPEEDING HURRICANE
MORE POWERFUL THAN A TSUNAMI
ABLE TO LEAP TALL VOLCANOES IN A SINGLE BOUND
LOOK!UP IN THE SKY !
IT'S A BIRD .IT'S AN OWL .IT'S TOXIC AVENGER.
Yes, it's TOXIC AVENGER - strange visitor from another planet who came to Earth with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men. TOXIC AVENGER - who can change the course of mighty rivers, bend smoke stacks with his bare hands, and who, disguised as Al Gore , mild mannered movie producer for 'The Inconvenient Truth " , fights the never ending battle for Higher Taxes , Deception and the Elitist Way.

[GoldenArm9]

Meh, if embarassing yourself is your goal in life... then I certainly won't stand in your way. <_<
Please don't i think the video is funny ...I'm having fun with it ...

[Bengalsnati85]

This 13 year old has more sense than 90% of the politicians in this country! It's very crazy that we got money for wars but can't feed the poor. We have a war going on right here in this country. The fight to end/help poverty, mortgage crisis, gas prices, prescription/healthcare crisis, and the war going on each and every day in the poverty stricken neighborhoods. The black and brown wars on each other and their own is simply genocide at its best. Now there's a few problems our government should be tackling instead of Iraq! Kudos for that girl she has a BIG heart!

[EatonFan]

Thank you for finally proving you have absolutely no scientific knowledge whatsoever. No where in that video (you'd probably know that if you watched it) did she say anything about Global Warming. The destruction of the ozone isn't caused by greenhouse gases, it's caused by CFC's. A substance which has now been phased out due to proven scientific research showing their harmful effects on the environment.

And are you really mocking the belief that CFC's are harmful? An idea that has near universal support by the entire scientific community, world governments, and even some of the most conservative minds in America? Nevermind that though, after all you and President Bush are the leading experts on the environment. <_<

Maybe that 13 year old should teach you a few science lessons.

By the way I wasn't using that video for any agenda. I merely thought it was amazing that a young articulate child cared so much about the planet and the generation of people growing up with her. Of course leave it to you to completely distort my intentions... If anything, mocking the good intentions of children is reprehensible.

While I agree with you Eleden, the one thing you do that just turns me off to no end is how you continually bash George Bush about everything. You make great points, sound logic and then.... you always put in a zinger against the President. Give it a rest. It's not all his fault. There are about 530+ Congressional members and millions of Americans in on this one.

[barryllium]

Please don't i think the video is funny ...I'm having fun with it ...

How can you even begin to think this video is funny? Is it because she says funny things like "If you don't know how to fix something, stop breaking it"? Or perhaps because she actually points out facts, and how everyone is caring about now and not the future? This video is not in the least bit funny - I am in awe of this girl and her amazing remarks.

[GoldenArm9]

How can you even begin to think this video is funny? Is it because she says funny things like "If you don't know how to fix something, stop breaking it"? Or perhaps because she actually points out facts, and how everyone is caring about now and not the future? This video is not in the least bit funny - I am in awe of this girl and her amazing remarks.
The problem is nothing is broken .....scientist back in the 70's said we better take care of the environment because if we didn't we were facing an ice age and when that didn't happen they went to the 'global warming'..which is not happening ...scientist can't predict what the weather will be like 15 days from now let alone 15 years from now ...and since i stopped the video at the animals maybe 'global warming ' produced this ..
http://blogs.townonline.com/newton/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/godzilla.jpg

[thefo0]

scientist can't predict what the weather will be like 15 days from now let alone 15 years from now

I'm sorry, but there is a big difference between the work of meteorologists and the scientists who have/are researching global warming. There is a vast gulf in educational levels, their fields of study, and I'm assuming global warming researchers don't have as nice of hair as meteorologists.

[BANJAXED]

I doubt she wrote that all by herself, but it isn't like it matters anyways.

THE UN:

1. "Act like you're listening"
2. "Stand, Clap, Smile"
3. Make small conversation briefly about the speech to your buddy next to you.
4. "Forget everything that was just said"

[barryllium]

The problem is nothing is broken .....scientist back in the 70's said we better take care of the environment because if we didn't we were facing an ice age and when that didn't happen they went to the 'global warming'..which is not happening ...scientist can't predict what the weather will be like 15 days from now let alone 15 years from now ...and since i stopped the video at the animals maybe 'global warming ' produced this ..
http://blogs.townonline.com/newton/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/godzilla.jpg

This talk was about more than global warming (if it was even about that at all). It was about politicians saying one thing and doing another. It was about thinking about the future as much or more than the present. Try watching the whole thing, instead of just the first 30 seconds and picking that apart. A lot is broken - and this girl does a great job of pointing it out.

[Buckeyehitman]

http://mywebsite.register.com/db5/00464/hollywood2you.tv/_download/toxicavenger-tm.jpg


FASTER THAN A SPEEDING HURRICANE
MORE POWERFUL THAN A TSUNAMI
ABLE TO LEAP TALL VOLCANOES IN A SINGLE BOUND
LOOK!UP IN THE SKY !
IT'S A BIRD .IT'S AN OWL .IT'S TOXIC AVENGER.
Yes, it's TOXIC AVENGER - strange visitor from another planet who came to Earth with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men. TOXIC AVENGER - who can change the course of mighty rivers, bend smoke stacks with his bare hands, and who, disguised as Al Gore , mild mannered movie producer for 'The Inconvenient Truth " , fights the never ending battle for Higher Taxes , Deception and the Elitist Way.

http://images.bigfail.com/i/f/10/00/081.jpg


By the way, I totally dig when Republican supporters call Democrats "elitist" that shows how truly clueless they really are. "hello kettle, I'm pot, you're black!"

Keep up the "good" work there slappy:thumbsup:

[GoldenArm9]

http://images.bigfail.com/i/f/10/00/081.jpg


By the way, I totally dig when Republican supporters call Democrats "elitist" that shows how truly clueless they really are. "hello kettle, I'm pot, you're black!"

Keep up the "good" work there slappy:thumbsup:
Thank you i will.....http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk61/Rockthejungle/DARTHGORE.jpg

[CatKiller]

The problem is nothing is broken

George W, is that you?

[Eleden]

While I agree with you Eleden, the one thing you do that just turns me off to no end is how you continually bash George Bush about everything. You make great points, sound logic and then.... you always put in a zinger against the President. Give it a rest. It's not all his fault. There are about 530+ Congressional members and millions of Americans in on this one.

I never said it was all his fault... if you go back in my comments throughout this year, you'll see I've bashed multiple politicians including some key Democrats. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John McCain, Nancy Pelosi, Jean Schmidt, and Donald Rumsfeld are a few key ones I've had complaints about.

I'm sure you'll understand my total contempt for President Bush, and including him in my last comment made sense since he's done absolutely nothing to address the environmental problems this planet is facing. He's relaxed environmental protections set in place by previous presidents (including his father) and much more. (I'd say something about Global Warming but if GA9 tries to pretend he's funny one more time... I'm committing suicide).

No I don't blame him for everything... but he's done enough to cover the next three Presidents. <_<

[Buckeyehitman]

Thank you i will.....http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk61/Rockthejungle/DARTHGORE.jpg

Why are you using a picture of **** Cheney to advocate Al Gore?:lol:

[barryllium]

Thank you i will.....http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk61/Rockthejungle/DARTHGORE.jpg

Again, this video has so much more to speak of than simply global warming. Try watching past the first 30 seconds.

[jamiethelanky]

Well, isn't this thread a microcosm of this board...

[Joe from Florence]

A young girl points out the disastrous future the world community is leaving her generation. Foreign diplomats can only stare in disbelief as a 13 year old pwns them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8kQfBvHjacdidn't look like she owned them, looked more like she bored them to death...as she about put me to sleep

nothing new was said, nothing new was said since the 70's.....i'm going out to empty a can of aerosal spray outside in her honor

[Eleden]

didn't look like she owned them, looked more like she bored them to death...as she about put me to sleep

nothing new was said, nothing new was said since the 70's.....i'm going out to empty a can of aerosal spray outside in her honor

Of course she bored them to death. Do you honestly think these people care if they're doing the right thing? There's money to made in screwing over the younger generations by destroying the planet.

I'm not honestly surprised by your answer... You have nothing to lose by destroying the planet but 50-100 years from now this planet will look a whole lot different then it does now. The rainforests will be gone, the environment in ruins, and the air we breathe even more polluted than it is now. Go spray your aeresol can if you must but remember that actions have consequences... consequences that will be delivered to your children's children.

[pookdogg7]

This speech was from 1992. It's too bad that many have turned a deaf ear before, since and still to this day. Just ignoring the problems that someone else will inherit is the way most governments and many citizens act.

[philhos]

The rainforests will be gone, the environment in ruins, and the air we breathe even more polluted than it is now.

I think you're exaggerating. All this may happen, but it'll be a lot longer than 50-100 years before it happens.

[Eleden]

I think you're exaggerating. All this may happen, but it'll be a lot longer than 50-100 years before it happens.

Really?

These articles beg to differ:

http://www.mongabay.com/external/record_amazon_deforestation_2002.htm


The environmental group Greenpeace has warned that the rain forest could be wiped out in 80 years if deforestation rates are not slowed. Scientists say about a fifth of the Amazon has already vanished

http://ecoworldly.com/2008/01/26/amazon-rainforest-vanishing-faster-brazil-drafts-emergency-plan/

[philhos]

Really?

These articles beg to differ:

http://www.mongabay.com/external/record_amazon_deforestation_2002.htm



http://ecoworldly.com/2008/01/26/amazon-rainforest-vanishing-faster-brazil-drafts-emergency-plan/

Frankly, I doubt the word of Greenpeace. Do you have something from a source that may be a little bit less biased, or at least where show where Greenbeace is getting their info from?

And that's just 1 aspect of those end of the world disasters you mentioned. Where's anybody saying the environment will be in ruins, and the air we breathe will be even more polluted than it is now in 50-100 years?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying we need to go out there and pollute the environment or that we shouldn't strive to be more green, but I think exaggerating claims and using scare tactics is not the way to go.

[pookdogg7]

Frankly, I doubt the word of Greenpeace. Do you have something from a source that may be a little bit less biased, or at least where show where Greenbeace is getting their info from?

And that's just 1 aspect of those end of the world disasters you mentioned. Where's anybody saying the environment will be in ruins, and the air we breathe will be even more polluted than it is now in 50-100 years?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying we need to go out there and pollute the environment or that we shouldn't strive to be more green, but I think exaggerating claims and using scare tactics is not the way to go.


Almost 60% of the region's forests could be wiped out or severely damaged by 2030, as a result of climate change and deforestation, according to a report published today by WWF.


The "point of no return", in which extensive degradation of the rainforest occurs and conservation prospects are greatly reduced, is just 15-25 years away - much sooner than some models suggest, the report warns.

Releasing the report at the UN conference in Bali, which aims to begin negotiations on a new international climate change deal, the WWF called for a strategy to reduce emissions from forests and stop deforestation.

World Wildlife Foundation 12/06/07
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2007/dec/06/conservation.endangeredhabitats

[Eleden]

Frankly, I doubt the word of Greenpeace. Do you have something from a source that may be a little bit less biased, or at least where show where Greenbeace is getting their info from?

And that's just 1 aspect of those end of the world disasters you mentioned. Where's anybody saying the environment will be in ruins, and the air we breathe will be even more polluted than it is now in 50-100 years?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying we need to go out there and pollute the environment or that we shouldn't strive to be more green, but I think exaggerating claims and using scare tactics is not the way to go.

I understand where you're coming from and believe me I'm not trying to use scare tactics (just something I believe in).

I'm off to work but here are some more articles on the destruction of the rainforest

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3245635.ece

http://www.coolearth.org/306/what's-new-32/news-155/amazon-rainforest-destruction-surges-356.html

National Geographics January 2007 edition stated that at the current rate 40% of the rainforest will be gone in the next two decades. I'll try to find a link if possible.

I have to go now but I'll post some more during my break at work.

[GoldenArm9]

I understand where you're coming from and believe me I'm not trying to use scare tactics (just something I believe in).

I'm off to work but here are some more articles on the destruction of the rainforest

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3245635.ece

http://www.coolearth.org/306/what's-new-32/news-155/amazon-rainforest-destruction-surges-356.html (http://www.coolearth.org/306/what%27s-new-32/news-155/amazon-rainforest-destruction-surges-356.html)

National Geographics January 2007 edition stated that at the current rate 40% of the rainforest will be gone in the next two decades. I'll try to find a link if possible.

I have to go now but I'll post some more during my break at work.

I wanted to help you since i knew you were going to post this ...and your welcome ....:thumbsup:.....Genesis 8:22
"While the earth remains, Seedtime and harvest, And cold and heat, And summer and winter, And day and night Shall not cease."

[barryllium]

I wanted to help you since i knew you were going to post this ...and your welcome ....:thumbsup:.....Genesis 8:22
"While the earth remains, Seedtime and harvest, And cold and heat, And summer and winter, And day and night Shall not cease."

And this has nothing to do with global warming, unless you would like to argue that the earth has never been through an ice age.

This, of course, is the same thing you ignored the last time you posted that verse in a global warming thread - even though this isn't a global warming thread. You have just decided it is because you stopped the video after the girl talked about holes in the ozone layer - which someone else pointed out is due to CFC's, not global warming.

Can we get back to talking about how this girl gave a great speech?

[Eleden]

And this has nothing to do with global warming, unless you would like to argue that the earth has never been through an ice age.

This, of course, is the same thing you ignored the last time you posted that verse in a global warming thread - even though this isn't a global warming thread. You have just decided it is because you stopped the video after the girl talked about holes in the ozone layer - which someone else pointed out is due to CFC's, not global warming.

Can we get back to talking about how this girl gave a great speech?

That person would be me. :smirk:

Seriously though let's get back on topic. If you'd like to debate something that girl said that's fine but global warming has nothing to do with this.

[VCU Rams]

http://mywebsite.register.com/db5/00464/hollywood2you.tv/_download/toxicavenger-tm.jpg



LMAO, the last thing I expected to see was a toxic avenger reference in this thread. I guess when someone makes you look foolish (props Eleden), you resort to even more extreme examples of cluelessness.

[barryllium]

LMAO, the last thing I expected to see was a toxic avenger reference in this thread. I guess when someone makes you look foolish (props Eleden), you resort to even more extreme examples of cluelessness.

Cluelessness? No, he was merely trying to drive home his point :huh::dunce:

Or something like that. Or, perhaps, not at all.

Cluelessness it is!

[GoldenArm9]

LMAO, the last thing I expected to see was a toxic avenger reference in this thread. I guess when someone makes you look foolish (props Eleden), you resort to even more extreme examples of cluelessness.
Sticks and Stones may break my bones but global warming will never hurt me ....:Clap:

[jamiethelanky]

Sticks and Stones may break my bones but global warming will never hurt me ....:Clap:
No, it'll hurt future generations.

[GoldenArm9]

No, it'll hurt future generations.
Not going to happen ..
Genesis 8:22
"While the earth remains, Seedtime and harvest, And cold and heat, And summer and winter, And day and night Shall not cease." :Clap:

[jamiethelanky]

Not going to happen ..
Genesis 8:22
"While the earth remains, Seedtime and harvest, And cold and heat, And summer and winter, And day and night Shall not cease." :Clap:
Yes, because scripture knows all... :rolleyes:

I'm prepared to risk that Global Warming is real. It's much better to be safe than sorry...

[GoldenArm9]

Yes, because scripture knows all... :rolleyes:

I'm prepared to risk that Global Warming is real. It's much better to be safe than sorry...
Hebrews 6:18
"so that by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have taken refuge would have strong encouragement to take hold of the hope set before us.":Clap:

[barryllium]

Not going to happen ..
Genesis 8:22
"While the earth remains, Seedtime and harvest, And cold and heat, And summer and winter, And day and night Shall not cease." :Clap:

I'm just going to keep repeating myself:

And this has nothing to do with global warming, unless you would like to argue that the earth has never been through an ice age.

This, of course, is the same thing you ignored the last time you posted that verse in a global warming thread - even though this isn't a global warming thread. You have just decided it is because you stopped the video after the girl talked about holes in the ozone layer - which someone else pointed out is due to CFC's, not global warming.

Can we get back to talking about how this girl gave a great speech?

[GoldenArm9]

I'm just going to keep repeating myself:
And I'll just keep repeating myself ..God is the ultimate authority and he doesn't lie

[barryllium]

And I'll just keep repeating myself ..God is the ultimate authority and he doesn't lie

I'm not even saying he is lying here. This earth has been through ice ages before. All the things mentioned in the verse you mentioned have continued, even through them. Global warming can still be happening, and your verse can still hold true - they are indeed not mutually exclusive. Your continued use of that verse to disprove global warming continues to hold no ground.

Now, can we get back to the original topic of this thread or what?!?!? :huh:

[jamiethelanky]

Hebrews 6:18
"so that by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have taken refuge would have strong encouragement to take hold of the hope set before us.":Clap:
I'd trust empirical science more than religious teachers 2000+ years ago on this...

Again, another early 'advertisement' for Christianity?

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

Hebrews 6:18
"so that by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have taken refuge would have strong encouragement to take hold of the hope set before us.":Clap:

"don, don, donnnnn....what a weirdo"

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

I'm not even saying he is lying here. This earth has been through ice ages before. All the things mentioned in the verse you mentioned have continued, even through them. Global warming can still be happening, and your verse can still hold true - they are indeed not mutually exclusive. Your continued use of that verse to disprove global warming continues to hold no ground.

Now, can we get back to the original topic of this thread or what?!?!? :huh:

Your not going to win this arguement Barry.....simply because GA9 is not even discussing the same thing. I still haven't figured out what he's trying to argue about. But the quoting of scripture sure helps to proove his point :huh:

[jamiethelanky]

Your not going to win this arguement Barry.....simply because GA9 is not even discussing the same thing. I still haven't figured out what he's trying to argue about. But the quoting of scripture sure helps to proove his point :huh:
If you're expecting relevence one feels you are asking too much...

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

If you're expecting relevence one feels you are asking too much...

I gave up on that from GA9 a while back.

[barryllium]

Your not going to win this arguement Barry.....simply because GA9 is not even discussing the same thing. I still haven't figured out what he's trying to argue about. But the quoting of scripture sure helps to proove his point :huh:

I may not win this one (for reasons you have so wisely mentioned) - but some day, at some point, I just may break through to him.

What - a guy can dream, right?! ;) :thumbsup:

[pookdogg7]

GA9 has left me speechless.

[barryllium]

GA9 has left me speechless.

Our president responds on your behalf:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M5h4IJoy2U

[CloeHokie]

Our president responds on your behalf:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M5h4IJoy2U

Wow, I missed some funny stuff here. Someone send out the batlight when this kinda thread is going down! :rotf:

That video is priceless.

[pookdogg7]

Our president responds on your behalf:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M5h4IJoy2U

:rotf:

"It's better to stay silent and look a fool, rather than speak and remove all doubt." - Mark Twain

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

I may not win this one (for reasons you have so wisely mentioned) - but some day, at some point, I just may break through to him.

What - a guy can dream, right?! ;) :thumbsup:

I dunno...he's pretty tenecious (sp?)....keep up the work though :lol:

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

:rotf:

"It's better to stay silent and look a fool, rather than speak and remove all doubt." - Mark Twain

Love that quote.:thumbsup:

[Eleden]

Love that quote.:thumbsup:

See pookdog actually knows how to use quotes to enhance his posts... GA9 on the other hand... <_<

[CloeHokie]

See pookdog actually knows how to use quotes to enhance his posts... GA9 on the other hand... <_<

I want to try my hand at the response:

Hey, I only uses the facts. Maybe you just cant handle the facts I provide. :Clap:


How was that?

:rotf:

[Beaker]

Please don't i think the video is funny ...I'm having fun with it ...

Maybe if you pray, that will fix all the damage humans are doing to this planet due to the false sense of superiority they attained due to the misguided teachings of religion.

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

:rotf:See pookdog actually knows how to use quotes to enhance his posts... GA9 on the other hand... <_<

:rotf:...now that was funny rarht thar. :lol:

[Eleden]

I want to try my hand at the response:

Hey, I only uses the facts. Maybe you just cant handle the facts I provide. :Clap:


How was that?

:rotf:

Nailed it! :thumbsup:

[GoldenArm9]

I may not win this one (for reasons you have so wisely mentioned) - but some day, at some point, I just may break through to him.

What - a guy can dream, right?! ;) :thumbsup:
Well i listened to the whole video and it is just what i thought it to be ...
The Lord answered this to ..




Proverbs 29


2When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn

[GoldenArm9]

Maybe if you pray, that will fix all the damage humans are doing to this planet due to the false sense of superiority they attained due to the misguided teachings of religion.

There is an answer in the Bible for that to ..God makes things so simple but man has a tendency to really screw things up ..
Chronicles 7:14:
14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

[jamiethelanky]

There is an answer in the Bible for that to ..God makes things so simple but man has a tendency to really screw things up ..
Chronicles 7:14:
14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
That's Christian advertising-come-bribery.

[jamiethelanky]

Proverbs 29


2When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn
No ****, Sherlock.

But the righteous doesn't necessarily mean Christian and doesn't necessarily mean ignorant to science.

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

There is an answer in the Bible for that to ..God makes things so simple but man has a tendency to really screw things up ..
Chronicles 7:14:
14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

I hope you realize that every post you make, simply makes you look like an idiot. I still haven't figured out if your serious or not, I'm begining to believe that your a prankster and trying to see how many will bite. No body can debate this stupidly, no matter how deep your faith is.

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

No ****, Sherlock.

But the righteous doesn't necessarily mean Christian and doesn't necessarily mean ignorant to science.

All right Jamie, since debating with GA9 is pointless, because you get nothing but a bible lesson, instead of a intelligent, intellectual debate and/or conversation..........I have to ask....Who the heck are the guys with the flowers in your sig? I've been dying to ask for a while

[barryllium]

Well i listened to the whole video and it is just what i thought it to be ...
The Lord answered this to ..

Proverbs 29


2When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn

There is an answer in the Bible for that to ..God makes things so simple but man has a tendency to really screw things up ..
Chronicles 7:14:
14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

For starters, it isn't just what you thought it would be. You went on for pages saying it was about Global Warming. And since it isn't, the video is not "just what you thought it to be".

Beyond that, I was unaware that the purpose of this thread was for you to attempt to prove the authenticity or relevance of the bible to this speech. No one but you has injected religion into this thread (in an extremely futile way, may I add), and no one has even claimed that this girls speech negates anything.

In the end, while I in no way mean to refute the bible in anyway, it's really easy to take the scripture you are quoting, apply it to this, and say "look, the bible predicts this!". In the end, that is simply your interpretation. I could do the same thing by finding a story about someone killing a toll booth worker on a Sunday and saying "The Lord answered to this":

Exodus 35:2
"For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.".

But in doing so, it wouldn't really be relevant, would it.

Can we, once again, get back to the subject at hand?!?! :huh::wacko:

[CloeHokie]

I hope you realize that every post you make, simply makes you look like an idiot. I still haven't figured out if your serious or not, I'm begining to believe that your a prankster and trying to see how many will bite. No body can debate this stupidly, no matter how deep your faith is.

I dont think he needs to worry about that my friend. :lol:

[CloeHokie]

All right Jamie, since debating with GA9 is pointless, because you get nothing but a bible lesson, instead of a intelligent, intellectual debate and/or conversation..........I have to ask....Who the heck are the guys with the flowers in your sig? I've been dying to ask for a while

Its his fav band. The Smiths I think?

[GoldenArm9]

I hope you realize that every post you make, simply makes you look like an idiot. I still haven't figured out if your serious or not, I'm begining to believe that your a prankster and trying to see how many will bite. No body can debate this stupidly, no matter how deep your faith is.
Wow you must be a very bitter person when you keep making derogatory comments about me ...I'll keep you in my prayers ...

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

Wow you must be a very bitter person when you keep making derogatory comments about me ...I'll keep you in my prayers ...

Actually I'm not a bitter person at all, I started making sarcastic comments when you stopped debating intelligently and just started spouting scripture. Until you stop that nonsense no one will take you sereiously. Barryllium is christian and has faith, yet he seems to bring a logical and intelligent arguement to the table. I have no problem with your faith, but trying to use it as proof when we're not even debating religion, IS idiotic, I don't understand why you do it.

[RICHMONDBENGAL_07]

Its his fav band. The Smiths I think?

Ahhh...I was thinking that was it.

[jamiethelanky]

Wow you must be a very bitter person when you keep making derogatory comments about me ...I'll keep you in my prayers ...
It's what you get when you don't post anything relevent.

BTW, you're in my prayers as well, bud.

[jamiethelanky]

Its his fav band. The Smiths I think?
Yes indeed...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2vItfNWychQ

[Joe from Florence]

I understand where you're coming from and believe me I'm not trying to use scare tactics (just something I believe in).

I'm off to work but here are some more articles on the destruction of the rainforest

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3245635.ece

http://www.coolearth.org/306/what's-new-32/news-155/amazon-rainforest-destruction-surges-356.html

National Geographics January 2007 edition stated that at the current rate 40% of the rainforest will be gone in the next two decades. I'll try to find a link if possible.

I have to go now but I'll post some more during my break at work.
don't worry, the so called "scare tactics" don't work...they are overblown tactics that hold no water....fact is the united states has more woodlands today than they did over 100 years ago, but your greenpeace folks and others like Al Gore conviently don't talk about that among other things, they'd rather just try and scare everyone with falsehoods.

something funny about this entire thread is, the speech was made over a decade ago but you and others believed it was made this year and is new. Doesn't seem like the earth has burned up in an atomic flame like they would like you to believe it would.

I think we should take care of the enviroment better, butthe extreme leftist who try and use scare tactics without an ounce of fact to back up their claims has gotten real old and it actually does just the opposite...instead of believing we are in trouble its more like the kid who cried wolf one too many times.

This stuff goes back to the 60's my friend.....we were supposed to be all burned up because of the holes in the ozone layer etc. we were supposed to be living in a world with no natural resources left etc. seems we are doing just fine some 40 years later. so when you say in 50-100 years we will be doomed makes me laugh.

sorry, but it's just another way to cry wolf.

[barryllium]

don't worry, the so called "scare tactics" don't work...they are overblown tactics that hold no water....fact is the united states has more woodlands today than they did over 100 years ago, but your greenpeace folks and others like Al Gore conviently don't talk about that among other things, they'd rather just try and scare everyone with falsehoods.

something funny about this entire thread is, the speech was made over a decade ago but you and others believed it was made this year and is new. Doesn't seem like the earth has burned up in an atomic flame like they would like you to believe it would.

I think we should take care of the enviroment better, butthe extreme leftist who try and use scare tactics without an ounce of fact to back up their claims has gotten real old and it actually does just the opposite...instead of believing we are in trouble its more like the kid who cried wolf one too many times.

This stuff goes back to the 60's my friend.....we were supposed to be all burned up because of the holes in the ozone layer etc. we were supposed to be living in a world with no natural resources left etc. seems we are doing just fine some 40 years later. so when you say in 50-100 years we will be doomed makes me laugh.

sorry, but it's just another way to cry wolf.

Even though I did know the speech was made in 1992 (it was hard to miss the huge "Rio de Janeiro 3-14 June 1992" banner behind her), that doesn't change one huge fact - things have either not changed or gotten worse since 1992 as far as the "live for now, screw the future" idea that the girl is speaking about. You can talk all you want about how people ignore some facts (like having more woodlands today than 100 years ago), or how people have been saying these things since the 60's - but that doesn't mean that simply because things aren't happening now proves we aren't headed in that direction. While the speech spoke of things like holes in the ozone layer (caused by CFC's, something that has been taken care of) and whatnot, her focus was that governments around the world are so concerned with now that they forget about the future - something that can be seen with America's ridiculous demand on oil, how far we continue to be behind the world with mileage standards, how we spend money now with complete disregard to the continued economic effects on our country, and other things of that ilk.

To say that this is just another way to cry wolf completely misses the point of the speech by pulling out specific words used.