Wesley Woodyard

[Ali]

Lost in the shuffle of the UK offense is one key defensive player that is a projected 4th rounder.

He was #2 ONLY to Patrick Willis last season in total tackles and first team all-SEC. So far into the season he leads the SEC by 2.4 tackles per game to any other OLB.

This guy could slip into the 3rd round and right into the Bengals laps. Oh, btw, he has no character issues. What are your alls opinions?

[ThePekoSquad]

I have been high on this guy since last year. This kid is nothing but a pure tackling machine. He is avergering 12 tackles a game!

He is also a leader who people look up to in the locker room.

I say after the work outs, he will go into the 2nd or late first, so I hope we get him in the second or James Lauranitis (if he declares) in the first, heck the way our LB core is an O'dell being up in the air, and Pollack maybe never playing again, the only LB we have signed after this year is Ahmad!

So we might go 2005 again and draft two LB's if we can not sign Landon.

[Foop]

James Lauranitis is overated. Yes I said it overrated. I like Ben Moffit of South Florida, and the two seniors out of USC a bit more. I think Moffit will be a steal is next seasons draft.

[ThePekoSquad]

James Lauranitis is overated. Yes I said it overrated. I like Ben Moffit of South Florida, and the two seniors out of USC a bit more. I think Moffit will be a steal is next seasons draft.

Lauranitis is overrated?

Well, I will let you stick to your opinion, but this guy is the next Urlacher.

[emfwhodey]

Lauranitis is overrated?

Well, I will let you stick to your opinion, but this guy is the next Urlacher.

funny cause urlacher is considered by his peers to be the most overated player in the NFL...i think lauranitis will be good but more like aj hawk good not urlacher

[Ali]

funny cause urlacher is considered by his peers to be the most overated player in the NFL...i think lauranitis will be good but more like aj hawk good not urlacher

Which peers are those? I've never heard this before.

I have heard him mentioned as one of the most underrated in football...

[ThePekoSquad]

Which peers are those? I've never heard this before.

I have heard him mentioned as one of the most underrated in football...

Yeah, calling Brian Urlacher overrated would be a little steep.

Fine, lets go who he will be next...

DeMarco Ryans.

This kid was a stud, and we could of drafted him.

[emfwhodey]

Which peers are those? I've never heard this before.

I have heard him mentioned as one of the most underrated in football...

sports illustrated runs a poll were they ask a bunch of nfl players who is the most overated...urlacher came in 2nd

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/players/10/24/poll.1024/

i'm not saying urlacher isn't pretty darn good but i just thought it was funny that someone compared him to urlacher right after someone called him over rated

[Ali]

sports illustrated runs a poll were they ask a bunch of nfl players who is the most overated...urlacher came in 2nd

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/players/10/24/poll.1024/

i'm not saying urlacher isn't pretty darn good but i just thought it was funny that someone compared him to urlacher right after someone called him over rated

To me, that looks like an envy poll more than anything. They have TO as the most overrated player, Urlacher 2nd, just as you said, and Peyton 7th.

Mike Vick is probably the most overrated, but I would be quicker to have put player like Philip Rivers, DeAngelo Hall and Matt Hasselback up ahead of most of those players.

Oh well, I still believe Urlacher is one of hte best LBs in all of the NFL and would kill to have him play for Cincy.

[Foop]

Lauranitis is the next Katzenmoyer (sp?). Those front four at OSU keep a lot of guys off of him. I honestly think he will be wrestling in the WWE withing four years of leaving OSU.

[ThePekoSquad]

Lauranitis is the next Katzenmoyer (sp?). Those front four at OSU keep a lot of guys off of him. I honestly think he will be wrestling in the WWE withing four years of leaving OSU.

Well at least he has something to fall on if Football does not work.

Him and his dad can be the Road Warriors 3.0

[Bengal4Life85]

I would love to see Wesley Woodyard on the Bengals.

[Fusch013]

He would make a good solid pick, but we seriously need a Odell Thurman like linebacker...someone to put the fear into people when he lines up...Yes Ahmad Brooks is supposed to be, but i dont think he has the energy Odell had....Odell was exciting to watch...so far i havent enjoyed watching Ahmad on the field nearly as much as Odell....So bring on a big monster of a LB...any suggestions....needs to have a real mean streak....

[Ali]

He would make a good solid pick, but we seriously need a Odell Thurman like linebacker...someone to put the fear into people when he lines up...Yes Ahmad Brooks is supposed to be, but i dont think he has the energy Odell had....Odell was exciting to watch...so far i havent enjoyed watching Ahmad on the field nearly as much as Odell....So bring on a big monster of a LB...any suggestions....needs to have a real mean streak....

The reasoning behind this might be because you haven't seen Ahmad play very much.

He plays with boat loads of energy, but was benched last year for playing out of position too much and hasn't dressed for all but 2 or 3 games this year because of an injury. When he takes the field, he's a beast. Just like Odell, but can hit harder because he's heavier.

[Buckeyehitman]

The Animal is NOT overrated. I'm sorry, I just saw him run down a throw from the line all the way into the deep secondary and he was the second person hitting the receiver. The guy has speed and intensity, and he learned some things from three of the greatest LBs Ohio State ever had. He got to sit behind the Law Offices of Carpenter, Schlegel and Hawk.

In fact, AJ still texts James before every game and tells him to go get em.

James is in the same mold of AJ, a guy that people think is overrated, but he just makes plays, shuts up, and goes back to the huddle. I think that is EXACTLY what the Bengals need, don't you?

[Ali]

The Animal is NOT overrated. I'm sorry, I just saw him run down a throw from the line all the way into the deep secondary and he was the second person hitting the receiver. The guy has speed and intensity, and he learned some things from three of the greatest LBs Ohio State ever had. He got to sit behind the Law Offices of Carpenter, Schlegel and Hawk.

In fact, AJ still texts James before every game and tells him to go get em.

James is in the same mold of AJ, a guy that people think is overrated, but he just makes plays, shuts up, and goes back to the huddle. I think that is EXACTLY what the Bengals need, don't you?

Sounds just like Brian Urlacher.

Who, btw, most people think is overrated. I think people just hate those silent assassin types.

[Buckeyehitman]

Sounds just like Brian Urlacher.

Who, btw, most people think is overrated. I think people just hate those silent assassin types.

I think for Urlacher people look at the fact that he doesn't advertise himself like most defensive players. Furthermore, they think that briggs is the reason he is so good. They don't look at how bad the Bears D was before Urlacher got there.

Laurinitis doesn't seek the limelight, but when you work hard and keep playing with intensity it finds you.

[Bengal4Life85]

I think Laurinitis would be a good pickup, but Wesley Woodyard would be a much better value. He'll probably be close to Laurinitis in terms of skill, he just doesn't get the attention because he doesn't play at OSU.

[Buckeyehitman]

I think Laurinitis would be a good pickup, but Wesley Woodyard would be a much better value. He'll probably be close to Laurinitis in terms of skill, he just doesn't get the attention because he doesn't play at OSU.

Wouldn't it be awesome if we could get them both?

[Ali]

Wouldn't it be awesome if we could get them both?

I, personally do not see that happening. I think Pollack will come back to the team next year, Geathers will be back as an OLB, Thurman SHOULD be back, Brooks should be locked into that MLB position, Landon SHOULD be re-signed, Caleb will be back.

That just leaves us with really, a need for one LB to go with the holes we will have at S, RG, RT (unless they're grooming Whitworht to replace Willie) DT & DE.

I think they'll solve DT wiht a FA pickup (hopefully Haynesworth) maybe bring in a Briggs type of player, but probably pick a player up in the draft (woodyard rd. 3 would be perfect IMO) and really, probably go with a safety to replace D-Jax in the first or 2nd round.

I can't see this team drafting multiple players in the same position unless they draft multiple CBs/WRs (sp. teams and backup)

But, with the comp. pick we should be getting out of Steinbach should put us to AT LEAST 8 draft picks.

[Buckeyehitman]

I, personally do not see that happening. I think Pollack will come back to the team next year, Geathers will be back as an OLB, Thurman SHOULD be back, Brooks should be locked into that MLB position, Landon SHOULD be re-signed, Caleb will be back.

That just leaves us with really, a need for one LB to go with the holes we will have at S, RG, RT (unless they're grooming Whitworht to replace Willie) DT & DE.

I think they'll solve DT wiht a FA pickup (hopefully Haynesworth) maybe bring in a Briggs type of player, but probably pick a player up in the draft (woodyard rd. 3 would be perfect IMO) and really, probably go with a safety to replace D-Jax in the first or 2nd round.

I can't see this team drafting multiple players in the same position unless they draft multiple CBs/WRs (sp. teams and backup)

But, with the comp. pick we should be getting out of Steinbach should put us to AT LEAST 8 draft picks.

By all counts, we should have 11, from what I've heard.

Caleb will only be resigned if it is at a lower amount. he's injured too much to be reliable and Marvin has expressed frustration with that.

Ahmad will be kept, you're right.

Odell, unfortunately cannot be relied upon, because we don't know if Goodell will ever let him back.

Pollack will not be a LB, he'll be a DE, he has expressed that he wants to return to that position.

Don't expect Geathers to remain at LB, unless we get heavy at DE. The only reason he's at LB right now is because we are thin and he's durable. Unless he becomes a stud LB, he'll switch back at the end of the season.

Landon should be re-signed no question. As should Dhani Jones and Lemar Marshall. Perhaps even Anthony Schlegel.

However, our starters are still clearly Ahmad and Landon, with the others as backups. We need another strong stud LB (Laurinitis) and someone that could work well in ST and step up if one of our starters gets hurt. The drop off between starter and backup is just too steep.

So here's how I see it unfolding.

Rd 1 - LB
Rd 2 - DL/OL
Rd 3 - LB
Rd 3 - OL/DL (could interchange the picks)
Rd 4 - WR (we obviously can't have enough of these at this point)
Rd 5 - CB
Rd 6 - S (don't see Dexter staying any longer)
Rd 7 - Best Avail
Rd 7 - Best Avail

[Ali]

By all counts, we should have 11, from what I've heard.

Caleb will only be resigned if it is at a lower amount. he's injured too much to be reliable and Marvin has expressed frustration with that.

Ahmad will be kept, you're right.

Odell, unfortunately cannot be relied upon, because we don't know if Goodell will ever let him back.

Pollack will not be a LB, he'll be a DE, he has expressed that he wants to return to that position.

Don't expect Geathers to remain at LB, unless we get heavy at DE. The only reason he's at LB right now is because we are thin and he's durable. Unless he becomes a stud LB, he'll switch back at the end of the season.

Landon should be re-signed no question. As should Dhani Jones and Lemar Marshall. Perhaps even Anthony Schlegel.

However, our starters are still clearly Ahmad and Landon, with the others as backups. We need another strong stud LB (Laurinitis) and someone that could work well in ST and step up if one of our starters gets hurt. The drop off between starter and backup is just too steep.

So here's how I see it unfolding.

Rd 1 - LB
Rd 2 - DL/OL
Rd 3 - LB
Rd 3 - OL/DL (could interchange the picks)
Rd 4 - WR (we obviously can't have enough of these at this point)
Rd 5 - CB
Rd 6 - S (don't see Dexter staying any longer)
Rd 7 - Best Avail
Rd 7 - Best Avail

I see it a little different. In his two games there, Geathers has looked terrific. Marvin has all but labeled it a permanent move, and they have both agreed to put him at DE on obvious 3rd down when a passing down.

My draft looked a little like this assuming the draft around 18th:

I'm assuming this team drafts right around 20. I know they're better than they look, and at worst, I see us going 6-10 and drafting 12th, at best going 11-5 and drafting 26th

1 - Vernon Gholston DE OSU
2 - Barry Richardson OT Clemson
3 - Wesley Woodyard ILB UK
3 - S/DT/WR
4 - WR/RB/TE
5 - OG/CB/WR
6 - ???
7 - ???

I see them picking up at least a pair of WRs, and I like that Gholston kid out of OSU better than anyone else available at a big time need position for the Bengals. Rucker on one side and Gholston & Pollack spelling both at the beginning of the season on the other with J-Jo & Leon on the corners will DRASTICALLY improve our passing D. I also think that will be the final step in moving to the 3-4 as we will have Odell (hopefully) & Brooks primarily as the ILBs with Landon, Geathers & Jeanty as the primary OLB and having Landon, Caleb & Woodyard move from one spot to the other would give us a great D to compliment our incredible O.

That's 8 backers, but you have to count Marshal as a probably lock and that would bring us to 9 backers.

The only problem I can ponder would be if Peko can handle the role as 3-4 NT.

[Buckeyehitman]

Gholston is a junior though, so he might not come out.

Besides, Marvin said it was a permanent move as of now....but it could change. I think why it is permanent now is because we are thin. We will see.

I'm sure the draft will influence whatever we do with Geathers. If we can get a demon DE, he'll stay at LB, if we can get a stud LB, he will switch back.

I will agree, he has looked pretty good as LB though. I do wonder though if they are getting him to do what they had Ahmad doing in the preseason.

[Bengal Dude]

Do you think that Geathers can be an effective tweener like Terrell Suggs?

[Buckeyehitman]

Do you think that Geathers can be an effective tweener like Terrell Suggs?

Either him or Ahmad could probably fit that mold if we really wanted to do this 3-4 business.