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OneTwistedGamer
10-20-2007, 11:30 AM
I figured since everybody is jumping off and saying how bad the bengals are i will give my input on the draft picks. I am thinking we will pick somewhere between 5 and 10 with are record but i think we will actually finish the season at about 7-9 to 9-7.

First Round
Darren Mcfadden RB Arkansas - I know some people are going to say we need to go defense here and I would not have a problem with that. I think we should get Darren because he would make it us unstoppable on Offense. I think this would actually even help out are Defense. We are not getting the rushing yards we need so we are passing way to much causing three and outs and making are Defense to play more than it should be.


Second Round
Guentin Groves DE Auburn or Sedrick Ellis DT USC - This pick depends on if we resign Justin Smith or not. I would perfer us to resign Justin but we can not pay him the money he is asking. So i think we will take Guentin Groves but i personally would perfer Sedrick Ellis. Ellis is a sack machine you can not stop him with one player and that would cause some problems with alot of Offenses. Guentin is not as good against the run as Justin but has more speed.

Third Round
Phillip Wheeler OLB Georgia Tech- I do not know what it is about this kid but i really like him and i see him being a good LB. I can just see Landon, Brooks, and Wheeler lined up all together.

(if we get an extra pick from Steinbach)
Quintin Demps S UTEP - This kid is fast and has average coverage and tackling skills so with a little work he can be something truly special and with him learning behind dexter that would just work out perfect.

Bengal4Life85
10-20-2007, 11:18 PM
There is no way that the Bengals can get Quentin Groves in the 2nd round. Some analysts project him to go in the Top 15.

OneTwistedGamer
10-21-2007, 09:56 AM
I have heard him going that high and i have heard him go as late as the third round it will really all depends on the combine so i decided i would just place him in the middle i do think that he should be a First rounder. I have also seen Sedrick Ellis projected is a top 10 which i do not think he should be at all but a first rounder yes. You really cant believe all of those projections though I remember a few years ago Donte Whitner was projected as a third rounder. After his Combine he ended up moving into a late first rounder early second rounder. He ended up going i think the 7th pick to the BIlls.

Bengal4Life85
10-21-2007, 08:00 PM
Good point.

Sorry if I was harsh at all.

I guess we should wait and see what happens at the combine. Good, valid point about Donte Whitner.

Who Dey!

ThePekoSquad
10-21-2007, 08:59 PM
Round 1.) Glenn Dorsey DT/LSU

Round 2.) Lawerence Jackson DE/USC

Round 3.) Weslie Woodyard LB/Kentucky

cinc4ever1
10-21-2007, 09:55 PM
Round 1.) Glenn Dorsey DT/LSU

Round 2.) Lawerence Jackson DE/USC

Round 3.) Weslie Woodyard LB/Kentucky

That would be one he11 of a draft that i would llove to see.

ThePekoSquad
10-21-2007, 09:58 PM
That would be one he11 of a draft that i would llove to see.

It is realistic as well. They have projected right now, Jackson to go mid to late second round, and Weslie Woodyard to go inbetween the middle 4th to 6th round.

So right now, I am taking that draft every day as a great way to help or defense.

Redfox
10-21-2007, 10:29 PM
That would sure go a long ways toward fixing the defense real quick.

ThePekoSquad
10-21-2007, 10:45 PM
That would sure go a long ways toward fixing the defense real quick.

as true as that is, but if we can address the D-Line and LB position I think that we will be better off. Sometimes Rookies can be golden and step right in and help out your defense (Ryans, Willis, when he was healthy Posluszny) can help yoru defense very quick. I see Glenn Dorsey being an Albert Haynesworth DT, and I dont think anybody can complain about that.

Lawerence Jackson reminds me similiar to a Kampmann from Green Bay, and Woodyard reminds me of Patrick Willis.

Orangezone
10-21-2007, 11:48 PM
Don't get me worng, I liek Darren McFadden and all, but we already have good Running Backs, and we got Kenny Irons last year in the Draft. So you figure that both Irons and Chris Perry will be back to back up Rudi. And don't leave Dorsey out of the equation...But I think we need to go defense (especially the first couple rounds.) I'm all for Offense, but not until the second day at very least.

ThePekoSquad
10-22-2007, 09:31 AM
I'm all for Offense, but not until the second day at very least.


I would not mind us drafting Jake Long T/Michigan in the first round if the defensive players are not there that we need.

I would commit :suicide: if we drafted Darren McFadden.

OneTwistedGamer
10-22-2007, 01:49 PM
I would not mind us drafting Jake Long T/Michigan in the first round if the defensive players are not there that we need.

I would commit :suicide: if we drafted Darren McFadden.

You can not draft based on needs it has to be more about talent. Darren McFadden is like LT he probably would not be as good as LT but if he was in are back field the opposing Defense would just have to pick there poisin. I think he would be great in a part time role next year with rudi. I know Kenny Watson had a great game but till i can see that he can continue with that I like Darren Mcfadden. As for Chris Perry he is always hurt so you can not trust him and who knows if Kenny Irons will be the same.

ThePekoSquad
10-22-2007, 06:24 PM
You can not draft based on needs it has to be more about talent..

I don't want to sound harsh so dont take it personally, so we need to draft on talent. Okay, thats cool I understand that, BUT practically what that is saying is, IF a QB is available and he has the biggest upside in the world, you would take him?

See I think Darren is going to be a great player somewhere, but right now he is struggling in his Junior year and he is not having the same year as he did last year.

But with our Defense in shambles and our O-Line being awful, I think we need to focus with that first. We need to start grooming a stud Tackle to replace Willie when he retires.

Darren MacFadden is just a lost cause, because we still have Perry, Watson, Irons and Johnson.

Dont need a 5 headed monster.

Bengal Dude
10-22-2007, 06:52 PM
I was a fan of drafting McFadden, which surprised me. However, after this week's game I think we have a solid group of RBs. I'm all for going defense in the 1st round, but I'm not going to write off offense because we need O-line help, Willie doesn't have much time left. I'm also not going to object the selection of a TE or WR if we end up picking late.

Redfox
10-22-2007, 07:19 PM
You can not draft based on needs it has to be more about talent. Darren McFadden is like LT he probably would not be as good as LT but if he was in are back field the opposing Defense would just have to pick there poisin. I think he would be great in a part time role next year with rudi. I know Kenny Watson had a great game but till i can see that he can continue with that I like Darren Mcfadden. As for Chris Perry he is always hurt so you can not trust him and who knows if Kenny Irons will be the same.If you draft on best talent then you will never fix the needs and we need DL-DE-LB not RB-QB-WR-TE we can get them next year. Dosen't do any good to score 40 points if you give up 41.

Bengal4Life85
10-22-2007, 08:50 PM
Defense, Defense, Defense, should be the theme of the draft

OneTwistedGamer
10-22-2007, 08:58 PM
Well it all depends where we draft but i think Glenn Dorsey will be gone early but if i had to choose any player in this draft it would be Glenn Dorsey. Darren would help out are Defense though he would help prevent some three and outs and give are D time to rest. With this all said if we draft in the top 10 I the best thing would be to trade down and pick up an extra draft pick and hope that The Little Animal declares so we can pick him up.

Jasonew6
10-30-2007, 11:20 AM
My first round wish list, in order:

1. Calais Campbell
2. Glenn Dorsey
3. James Laurinaitis
4. Chris Long
5. Frank Okam

Fusch013
11-06-2007, 01:23 PM
My first round wish list, in order:

1. Calais Campbell
2. Glenn Dorsey
3. James Laurinaitis
4. Chris Long
5. Frank Okam

Any 5 i think any team would love to have.....i would take them all, now that would be a boost two the defense..:rotf:

OneTwistedGamer
11-07-2007, 09:25 AM
My first round wish list, in order:

1. Calais Campbell
2. Glenn Dorsey
3. James Laurinaitis
4. Chris Long
5. Frank Okam

James Laurinaitis will not declare and will play another year. Calais Campbell i just am not over thrilled with him if he falls far then yes but not inless late first round. Frank Okam will fall into the second round he is not as good as people think. Chris Long is going to be good so i would not mind him. Glen Dorsey should win the Heisman yes i know he is a defensive player but nobody has carried a team like this guy. Could you imagine Peko and Dorsey that would be nirvana.

lost33cause
11-08-2007, 02:03 AM
Would be heaven if you took peko out and added the DT from the Titans. I just won't be happy with Peko starting =\

OneTwistedGamer
11-08-2007, 07:06 AM
Would be heaven if you took peko out and added the DT from the Titans. I just won't be happy with Peko starting =\


Whats the matter with peko? Are you talking about Haynesworth? The guy who last year stomped on somebodies head in a guy and the guy had to get 20 stitches. Yes lets bring in another character guy.

lost33cause
11-08-2007, 08:25 AM
That would be the guy, it would be ok if he went to the pats though wouldn't it? Screw what the media thinks. These guys are only bad if they go to teams that are notorios for run ins with the law. Tank goes to the Cowboys and hardly **** gets said. If tank went to the bengals it would be an amazing story of how the bengals go after thugs. You just have to do whats best for your team. You put the arrests of 2006 behind and and make decisions that helps this team win. So in a short version, yes bring in haynesworth and draft another tackle. My question to you is wtf have you seen Peko do this year?

ThePekoSquad
11-08-2007, 09:21 AM
That would be the guy, it would be ok if he went to the pats though wouldn't it? Screw what the media thinks. These guys are only bad if they go to teams that are notorios for run ins with the law. Tank goes to the Cowboys and hardly **** gets said. If tank went to the bengals it would be an amazing story of how the bengals go after thugs. You just have to do whats best for your team. You put the arrests of 2006 behind and and make decisions that helps this team win. So in a short version, yes bring in haynesworth and draft another tackle. My question to you is wtf have you seen Peko do this year?

Obviously you can't just blame Peko. He has been getting double teamed a lot down low, leaving John Thornton in single blocking, and he can't get past them.

Screw what the Media thinks? Too bad the media practically brain-washes the commune public of sports. They make the Bengals seem awful, and The Patroits as this god given creation. It's sick.

Buckeyehitman
11-08-2007, 12:31 PM
I would not mind us drafting Jake Long T/Michigan in the first round if the defensive players are not there that we need.

I would commit :suicide: if we drafted Darren McFadden.

That's what we're missing.....another Michigan player!!!!!!

We always have good luck finding OLinemen in the later rounds (Kooistra, Andrews, Whitworth).

Levi has stepped it up and if we can sign Andrews longterm we are good on the Line for a while.

OneTwistedGamer
11-08-2007, 01:21 PM
That would be the guy, it would be ok if he went to the pats though wouldn't it? Screw what the media thinks. These guys are only bad if they go to teams that are notorios for run ins with the law. Tank goes to the Cowboys and hardly **** gets said. If tank went to the bengals it would be an amazing story of how the bengals go after thugs. You just have to do whats best for your team. You put the arrests of 2006 behind and and make decisions that helps this team win. So in a short version, yes bring in haynesworth and draft another tackle. My question to you is wtf have you seen Peko do this year?


Okay there was a bunch of news that Tank went to the Cowboys but Tank was not considered as bad of a character. Peko has had a solid good season as a start. He is not playing like a probowler but that does not mean he should not be start. Haynesworth has had character issues for his whole career we do not need him. Are biggest problems on the D-line are not Peko you have to point your fingers at Thorton( who is not leading the team) and Justin Smith. Geathers was not looking great when he was playing line so we have alot of problems with the line but Peko is not that.

Buckeyehitman
11-08-2007, 01:26 PM
Okay there was a bunch of news that Tank went to the Cowboys but Tank was not considered as bad of a character. Peko has had a solid good season as a start. He is not playing like a probowler but that does not mean he should not be start. Haynesworth has had character issues for his whole career we do not need him. Are biggest problems on the D-line are not Peko you have to point your fingers at Thorton( who is not leading the team) and Justin Smith. Geathers was not looking great when he was playing line so we have alot of problems with the line but Peko is not that.

They were typically double teaming Geathers and leaving Smith alone on the opposite side. If we get another threatening pass rusher then you'll see Geathers' stats go back up.

The only reason he did so well last year was no one was expecting him, now they know they have to gameplan for him.

OneTwistedGamer
11-08-2007, 01:36 PM
They were typically double teaming Geathers and leaving Smith alone on the opposite side. If we get another threatening pass rusher then you'll see Geathers' stats go back up.

The only reason he did so well last year was no one was expecting him, now they know they have to gameplan for him.


Ya i know i was just saying you can not bash Peko.

lost33cause
11-08-2007, 08:12 PM
Obviously you can't just blame Peko. He has been getting double teamed a lot down low, leaving John Thornton in single blocking, and he can't get past them.

Screw what the Media thinks? Too bad the media practically brain-washes the commune public of sports. They make the Bengals seem awful, and The Patroits as this god given creation. It's sick.

I didn't think I had to point my fingers at the others b/c its pretty much been said over and over here and everyone thinks Peko is this great DT which I have yet to see. I want 2 new starting tackles thats all. I will say that Peko would be a good rotation guy though. He has just not shown me hes nfl starter material. As well though neither have the other linemen. TO Geather defense though, I have seen him get double teamed a lot and i can't say the same about the other linemen, maybe I just haven't seen them.