Bengals might get McFadden

[kdubb513]

I know this sounds crazy, but I think the cincinnati bengals might get mcfadden. Here are the reasons why.

1) The Dolphins, Raiders, Falcons, Rams, 49ers, and Jets, will all end up with higher picks than us. There are a few other teams who might as well. This means we would be out of the running for Glenn Dorsey, Calais Campbell, and probably Chris Long.

2) The bengals rank in the bottom thrid of the NFL in total rush offense. They are 21st and are about 25 yards away from being last. They average 97 yards rushing per game and have had 2 hundred yard rushing games this season.

3) Picks such as Calvin Johnson and Adrian Peterson were picks that were not made out of need and they seem to have been the right picks.

4) You should consider value and not only need when drafting players. Take the best player available.

5) We would have to reach to far to get players of need such as Dan Connor, James Lauranaitis, or Frank Okam.

6) We have shown our incompetence when it comes to evaluating defensive talent.

7) There are tons of great defensive players in this years draft who would be available to us in the 2nd round. Plus, we will have an extra third round pick as compensation for losing Steinbach.

8) As good as Kenny Watson has looked, he is a short-term solution and not a franchise running back. Chris Perry is injury prone, and Irons is a question mark. Rudi Johnson will now have to be part of a 2 back set.

9) The best players on our defense are Geathers, Peko, Landon Johnson, and Ndukwe. They were drafted in the 4th, 4th, 3rd, and 7th round respectively. We even drafted Kelly Gregg in the 6th round. Look at how he is doing in Baltimore. 1st round doesn't necessarily equate to better. (Leon Hall and J Jo who are struggling right now)

10) Defensive picks in the top 3 rounds just don't pan out for us. Frostee Rucker, Keiwan Rattlif, Madieu Williams, Caleb Miller, Lamont Thompson, David Pollack, Odell Thurman. Lets try building through free agency.

11) 2 of the top 6 DT will be available in the 2nd round.

How would you feel about having McFadden?

[BengalsOwnU]

i'd have mixed emotions about it.. but if the bengals are aggresive in free agency and get at least 2-3 decent defensive players i'd be alright with it..

[sloppy lombardi slaps]

How would you feel about having McFadden?

The rest of the league would laugh at us and they would be right to do so

[Jasonew6]

I will be very upset if the draft McFadden. There will be too many good defensive players left on the board if he is when we are drafting.

Based on the track record the past 10+ years, we won't sign any stud free agents, so the only way this defense will get better is through the draft. And the defense needs a LOT more help than the offense.

[sloppy lombardi slaps]

Drafting mcfadden would mean another year of losing, especially after he gets hurt.

We should never draft a running back on the first day. Other teams are allowed to, but we'd eff'd it so much we arn't allowed to draft RBs first day anymore

[finkejh]

I know this sounds crazy, but I think the cincinnati bengals might get mcfadden. Here are the reasons why.



9) The best players on our defense are Geathers, Peko, Landon Johnson, and Ndukwe. They were drafted in the 4th, 4th, 3rd, and 7th round respectively. We even drafted Kelly Gregg in the 6th round. Look at how he is doing in Baltimore. 1st round doesn't necessarily equate to better. (Leon Hall and J Jo who are struggling right now)



That is the reason that our defense is not very good...we need a stud first rounder out there

[spinksjinx]

Get over it if we draft defense in the draft we will ruin them..We have nobody worth a damn to help these guys out and guide them through where they need to be...All the Bengals need is one heck of a defensive player to captain the team and bring the morale up and bring tips...Take Ray Lewis out of Baltimore and the defense would not be as aggressive. One stud on defense could make a world of a difference in improving the other 10 men on the field...

Id give up our 1st-3rd draft picks if that meant we could pick up a beast in free agency...Its our only way to success if we keep drafting defense with no proper guidance they end up getting burned, injured, or being a bust...

[Bengals Mike]

If the Bengals were in that spot with no teams ahead of them with the need to get him, the Bengals would join them on passing on him - the smart thing to do would be to trade the pick and get lots of picks back or someone good for that spot, because if the Bengals do draft that early, clearly they're not rebuilding since it would only be one season like this and the first in 5 years and could easily do just as well with extra picks - and again isn't 4 backs more than enough to have?? they've still got a Day 1 pick in Kenny Irons they've yet to use and would pretty much be a rookie by then considering he's been out all year

[Bengal Dude]

I won't rule us out of getting McFadden, but he won't be the best pick. I'm thinking that like this past year, we're going to have a good defensive player fall to us and we take them. If all the good players are taken, then I see us trading the pick before we draft McFadden.

Also, guys, give up on expecting any big FAs this year. We don't sign big FAs. Do you guys no something that most of us don't? Are we going to break from our usual methods?

[cinc4ever1]

Drafting McFadden over a good defensive player is obviously a bad idea when we need help desperately on the defensive side of the ball.

[Chadleyjm]

Based on past draft performance we will probably take a QB, a Kicker and a punter with our first three picks.

That way we can shore up those back-ups, and lock in a long solid future at those spots.

[Buckeyehitman]

I know this sounds crazy, but I think the cincinnati bengals might get mcfadden. Here are the reasons why.

1) The Dolphins, Raiders, Falcons, Rams, 49ers, and Jets, will all end up with higher picks than us. There are a few other teams who might as well. This means we would be out of the running for Glenn Dorsey, Calais Campbell, and probably Chris Long.

2) The bengals rank in the bottom thrid of the NFL in total rush offense. They are 21st and are about 25 yards away from being last. They average 97 yards rushing per game and have had 2 hundred yard rushing games this season.

3) Picks such as Calvin Johnson and Adrian Peterson were picks that were not made out of need and they seem to have been the right picks.

4) You should consider value and not only need when drafting players. Take the best player available.

5) We would have to reach to far to get players of need such as Dan Connor, James Lauranaitis, or Frank Okam.

6) We have shown our incompetence when it comes to evaluating defensive talent.

7) There are tons of great defensive players in this years draft who would be available to us in the 2nd round. Plus, we will have an extra third round pick as compensation for losing Steinbach.

8) As good as Kenny Watson has looked, he is a short-term solution and not a franchise running back. Chris Perry is injury prone, and Irons is a question mark. Rudi Johnson will now have to be part of a 2 back set.

9) The best players on our defense are Geathers, Peko, Landon Johnson, and Ndukwe. They were drafted in the 4th, 4th, 3rd, and 7th round respectively. We even drafted Kelly Gregg in the 6th round. Look at how he is doing in Baltimore. 1st round doesn't necessarily equate to better. (Leon Hall and J Jo who are struggling right now)

10) Defensive picks in the top 3 rounds just don't pan out for us. Frostee Rucker, Keiwan Rattlif, Madieu Williams, Caleb Miller, Lamont Thompson, David Pollack, Odell Thurman. Lets try building through free agency.

11) 2 of the top 6 DT will be available in the 2nd round.

How would you feel about having McFadden?

Of the ones you listed, I think the Raiders, Falcons or Jets would select him before we got to.

Falcons - Warrick Dunn is not impressed with the current coaching regime, and is getting older, they need depth and an explosive player

Raiders - they have Lamont Jordan who is good this year, but has struggled in the past. McFadden would give them depth and an explosive player to lessen Jordan's carries

Jets - Jones is good, but he has struggled A LOT this season. It might be just a shock from a change of offensive responsibilities, or it could be a larger meaning, right now, RB is a question mark for the Jets.....then again, so is virtually every other position.



By the way, I'd also add

Bears - It's obvious that Chicago needs a two headed monster and Benson is not an every down back

Detroit - probably won't have the record to get him, but who is to say what will happen in the second half of the season? Run DMC would give stability to a chaotic RB position for the Lions

Cardinals - They have a young QB and two young WR....only thing missing for a long happy franchise is a young RB

Panthers - Record is good, they might not get a chance at him, but they aren't sold on Foster or Williams as the feature back answer




My guess is he'd land with.....

Texans - they don't have a feature back other than a rapidly aging and injury prone Ahman Green, and whereas our schedule gets easier, theirs won't be, and Schaub looks to be having concussion issues rigth now.

[kdubb513]

All of your points are well taken. What I'm saying is that he might be too good to pass up. Look at Adrian Peterson. Leading the league in rushing as a rookie. The running game is the most important part of football. It opens up the passing game by keeping the defense honest, eats up clock, keeps your defense off of the field, and can really open up the playbook. That's what's killing our OFFENSE this year.

[DennyG2]

draft!!!!!! man lets win some games before we get into the draft, way too early.

[true fan]

WHAT! :dry: we don't need mcfadden we neeed:banned::banned::banned:we need d.line help getting presure is they main key to the whole defense can make bad corners look like hall a famers

[bengaldefense]

Given there record on drafting RB Perry and irons 1st and 2nd rounds respectively don't inspire much confidence for drafting a RB in the early rounds.

[true fan]

Given there record on drafting RB Perry and irons 1st and 2nd rounds respectively don't inspire much confidence for drafting a RB in the early rounds.
i agree with this no rb in this draft please no offensive help on the 1st day of the draft (but a receiving te in the 3rd may not be bad)

[HellBird]

Drafting McFadden over a good defensive player is obviously a bad idea when we need help desperately on the defensive side of the ball.
yea, and how has that worked out for us the past 3 years?

I'd take McFadden in a heartbeat

wether anyone wants to admit it or not, we need a RB in the worst way. Rudi is done, Watson is not a starting RB caliber of player plus he's old, chris Perry will never play an entire season and is not a feature back. Kenny Irons may never be the same, another Kijana injury.

If we don't get a stud RB next year this offense will be even more 1 dimensional than it is this year which is not good. We need some sort of running game but everyone for some reason thinks we have to draft a defensive player in the 1st round. Why? Haven't we proven already the past 5 years that we can't draft defense at all and it's only a wasted pick. How's JJ or Hall working out for us? Or lets draft a guy like Pollack as our 1st pick and move him to a position he's never played before in his life, How did that work out for us? Talk about a wasted pick. Lets draft someone in the 1st round and move him to a new position, that is quality for the dollar right there.

Go and get McFadden if he is available, why have both our offense and defense horrible for years to come, at least keep one side of the ball respectable.

[true fan]

yea, and how has that worked out for us the past 3 years?

I'd take McFadden in a heartbeat
AND YEA WE HAVE NOT DRAFTED A DT IN THE FIRST DAY OR A DE THAT WE DID NOT TRY TO MAKE A LINE BACKER IN FOREVER THIS IS WHAT SETS GOOD D FROM WELL ARE D GET DLINE HELP

[HellBird]

yea, and how has that worked out for us the past 3 years?

I'd take McFadden in a heartbeat
AND YEA WE HAVE NOT DRAFTED A DT IN THE FIRST DAY OR A DE THAT WE DID NOT TRY TO MAKE A LINE BACKER IN FOREVER THIS IS WHAT SETS GOOD D FROM WELL ARE D GET DLINE HELP
please turn your caps lock off, thanks. We have drafted 2 Defensive line players in the last 3 years on frist day. while at the same time ignoring the offense in the first round and now we not only have a bad defense we also have an offense that is getting worse each year.

[true fan]

yea but not in the first frostee i forgot you how easy that is but pollock put him a lb reinard wilson made him a lb how well have that worked for us the last de we have drafted and kept there was alfred willams last dt in the first round is big daddy wilkinson...yea my point is clear draft a pass rusher and or a dt in the first

[DaytonBengalBuck]

Please god no, not a RB in the 1st round. We need D plain and simple. Tell me the world isn't so cruel as to do this to me. :nervous:

[Show-your-Stripes]

First and second rounds need to be D-Line

Third can be a linebacker.

[Joe from Florence]

Please god no, not a RB in the 1st round. We need D plain and simple. Tell me the world isn't so cruel as to do this to me. :nervous:
as was pointed out already.....drafting D in the 1st round has worked out great for us the past 3 years hasn't it? :huh:

[coolhandluke]

he will be long gone before we pick. if by some freak occurance he is there when we pick, of course we take him. this reminds me of the texans taking williams because they needed defensive help, passed on vince young because they already had a "stud" QB in david carr!!! do you think they would like a do over on that one? say what you want but we dont have a stud running back. we've got a hurt washed up power back that thinks he's LT, a promising rookie thats unproven and already hurt, and a pretty good 3rd down back that STAYS hurt. now dont get me wrong, i think perry and irons could both be great backs but to think we are set at that position is wishfull thinking. bottom line if mcfadden is there, you take him. he's too good to pass up.

[DaytonBengalBuck]

as was pointed out already.....drafting D in the 1st round has worked out great for us the past 3 years hasn't it? :huh:

Jo Jo isn't horrible, he is young and still makes mistakes. Pollack got hurt as we all know, not a draft problem. Hall will get better, we have seen some signs of greatness sandwhiched in between lots of bad. :dry:

But even if we don't draft D in the 1st round please not a RB in the 1st. Maybe OL or a TE. I know rudi is on his way out but that still leaves us with Watson, Irons and Perry(who i still have not given up on). Try to trade the pick if you have to but not another RB.

[kdubb513]

Our defensive draft picks don't pan out. Until we bring in a stud free agent we will still be bad on defense. We need to establish the running game. Mcfadden will be here for years to come. Better get him and groom him now because a few years from now watson and rudi won't be in the picture. Would you leave the backfield in the capable hands of irons and perry?