McFadden or Dorsey?

[BrandonBlazer]

If it comes down to our pick and these 2 are left on the board who do you take?

[BengalUSCfan]

Yesterdays run game was so, so bad. It's always hard to tell if it was the blocking or the running back who stunk.

I think I'd grab McFadden after yesterday. Kenny Irons is a guy whose whole game is cuts and jukes and an ACL is the worst thing that can happen to a guy like that. Rudi's game has vanished.

Sorry guys, but I'm cheering for the long term prognosis of the team now. That means high picks. We should start Leon every game to get all his rookie mistakes out of his system. Get Marvin White on the field at safety. Chinedum too.

Yesterday requires a complete mind shift for the rest of the year. Its audition time.

[bengaldefense]

Dorsey is injured he will fit right in with our IR if these are the only choices I would trade out entire draft for three good vets on the D.

[Redfox]

We take Dorsey we don't need a running back the defense is the problem.

[mshiel7]

I'd take McFadden as I think he is more of a sure thing to be an elite player.

[BengalBlitz]

all starts up front on both sides of the ball, we wont win when JP losman has 20 seconds to throw the ball.

[IgnoreME]

Ya know, I have watch a lot of football, and during the Arkansas Alabama game I have never seen a player absolutely dominate more than McFadden in any context. Albeit they lost but McFadden was the only player that could move the ball or score. They had to bring in the backup a few times during that game because of how many yards he was racking up. (Sorry I don't know the backups name) But he would move the ball a yard maybe two get to the third down where McFadden would come back in and bust our 12 - 15 yards a few plays...

This guy is a bruiser, who is to say we don't utilize a McFadden and a Kenny Irons? I don't believe McFadden is a finess runner...

[The Irish Bengal]

Ya know, I have watch a lot of football, and during the Arkansas Alabama game I have never seen a player absolutely dominate more than McFadden in any context. Albeit they lost but McFadden was the only player that could move the ball or score. They had to bring in the backup a few times during that game because of how many yards he was racking up. (Sorry I don't know the backups name) But he would move the ball a yard maybe two get to the third down where McFadden would come back in and bust our 12 - 15 yards a few plays...

This guy is a bruiser, who is to say we don't utilize a McFadden and a Kenny Irons? I don't believe McFadden is a finess runner...

Unless he lets us control the clock more than yes. But our offense is too explosive already. Watson is doing fine, Kenny will be back next year, and hey, mabey we could put rudi at full back. But i think we would be crazy not to take glen dorsey. He could make a big impact as a rookie and has a tremendous work ethic, somthing that he might be able to spread among the team.

[warsteiner138]

I do not think Watson is a game changing back or a feature back. He is a good fill in. A good pass catcher and special teams player.

I would be happy with either Dorsey or McFadden.

But I guess I would take McFadden and than try to grab Quentin Groves in the second round.

[Dr.Johnny Fever]

I think if available you have to take McFadden. We still have all of those other picks to get defense. A good running game can mask a bad defense, but it doesn't work the other way around. Also, at some point we will have to get a better all around TE. Kelly is half of a modern TE, a very good half, but still just half.

[The Irish Bengal]

I think if available you have to take McFadden. We still have all of those other picks to get defense. A good running game can mask a bad defense, but it doesn't work the other way around. Also, at some point we will have to get a better all around TE. Kelly is half of a modern TE, a very good half, but still just half.

Good point, but the is no saying that McFadden will be like AD. Rember when Bush came out? Everyone was saying he would be a hall of famer and so far, he has only rushed for about 700 yards on the season. (last season he had somthing like 1300 total yards)

[Dr.Johnny Fever]

Good point, but the is no saying that McFadden will be like AD. Rember when Bush came out? Everyone was saying he would be a hall of famer and so far, he has only rushed for about 700 yards on the season. (last season he had somthing like 1300 total yards)I get that. What player is a sure thing? I'll take the chance on the player who can fix/mask more areas than one who needs other picks to help showcase his talent on defense. This defense may get fixed with one draft providing we use the majority of picks on it, because not all of them will pan out, Brooks is the real deal, and Thurman gets it together as a Bengal. Drafting D- lineman with like four picks o get some to stick might do it, but doubtful.

[The Irish Bengal]

True, you can't tell how they will do in the NFL, but what if they do pan out. Imagine Dorsey at a pro-bowl level? What if Cambell became the next Dwight Freeny? You can't tell waht will happen, and alot of that is their coaching, but i would rather adress these issues sooner than later. Just think how good we would be if we had the okland deffense or the falcones deffense.

[Carson4mvp]

If it comes down to our pick and these 2 are left on the board who do you take?

McFadden in a heart beat

[dust]

passing up glen dorsey would be near the top of the list of our poor draft decisions. we have enormous potential in the secondary, not quite as much in the LB corps, but none of that will fourish unless we have a solid defensive line.

i think peko will pan out to be a pretty decent DT in the league, but dorsey could be a gamechanger. those 2 teamed up would attract a lot of attention from the o-line, and maybe smith (unfortunately will probably be resigned) and geathers (hopefully moved back to DE) can finally generate some pressure on the qb.

one thing about our defense is that we do nothing to disrupt the other teams offense. if we were fortunate enough to draft dorsey, it would be a start.

[Bengal Dude]

When I first heard that McFadden would be an option I actually liked the idea of getting someone who's suppose to be better than Adrian Peterson. Then I thought about it a little more and I wasn't a fan of drafting him and went with a defensive player.

Now, I don't care. I just don't care who we take. Past years, I've said that I want one person and not really anybody else. Now, I just want someone who's going to improve this team's underachieving attitude. I'll be happy with McFadden and I'll be happy with Glenn Dorsey.


If we do take McFadden and we play at Detroit in the preseason, he sits.

[ThePekoSquad]

When I first heard that McFadden would be an option I actually liked the idea of getting someone who's suppose to be better than Adrian Peterson. Then I thought about it a little more and I wasn't a fan of drafting him and went with a defensive player.

Now, I don't care. I just don't care who we take. Past years, I've said that I want one person and not really anybody else. Now, I just want someone who's going to improve this team's underachieving attitude. I'll be happy with McFadden and I'll be happy with Glenn Dorsey.


If we do take McFadden and we play at Detroit in the preseason, he sits.

:rotf: That is the truth. Darren sits if we play Detroit. Period.

I still like James Lauranitis as our top 5 pick.

[Fusch013]

I think a linebacker is a good pick for 2nd and thrid round, but defense line needs to be addressed in the 1st, and if by some miracle Glenn Dorsey falls into our laps at pick 4,5,6 just guessing if we keep playing like we are.....then we take him, but i think he will be either #1 or #2 picked in the draft.

[tanzillathrilla]

i definitely think defense is the way to go ...but if mcfadden is there , take him..our offense is clearly not our problem but one problem for the bengals is that we are pass first offense which usuaully means our offense is not on the field as much as our defense...just look at the bills game the defense was out there for so long playing decent....then comes the 4th quarter and theyre obviously worn out then the next thing ya know bills score 17 points....if we could really establish our running game with a guy like mcfadden our offense would be close to unstoppable...we could use the run game to kill the clock and at the same time that would really open our pass game.. all the while giving the defense some much needed rest...like i said we definitely need to fix our defense...but by draftign a big star running back like mcfadden may inadvertantly help our defense more then most would think

[dust]

i definitely think defense is the way to go ...but if mcfadden is there , take him..our offense is clearly not our problem but one problem for the bengals is that we are pass first offense which usuaully means our offense is not on the field as much as our defense...just look at the bills game the defense was out there for so long playing decent....then comes the 4th quarter and theyre obviously worn out then the next thing ya know bills score 17 points....if we could really establish our running game with a guy like mcfadden our offense would be close to unstoppable...we could use the run game to kill the clock and at the same time that would really open our pass game.. all the while giving the defense some much needed rest...like i said we definitely need to fix our defense...but by draftign a big star running back like mcfadden may inadvertantly help our defense more then most would think

well i definetly agree with you in the fact that our running game isn't up to what it needs to be for us to be a consistent offense, but i dont see the draft as the best way to address this problem when you look at overall team needs and weaknesses. in my opinion, the solutions to our running woes are already on the roster, just need to spend time on the field together.

chris perry is on the verge of coming back, and the way the season is going, i would rather see him spend the rest of the year on IR to ensure (as much as situations like this can be) that he is 100% healthy and ready to go by next season. when he is an option on offense, our 3rd down percentage is much higher, and offensive 3rd downs have been the biggest problem for both our offense and our defense.

kenny irons hopefully will be able to go next season too. i think we drafted him for 2 reasons...1) send chris perry a message that if he cannot stay healthy, we do have his replacement. 2) the coaches know that with much of our draft picks going towards defense, we cant afford a marquee running back, so it will have to be done by committee.

kenny watson has stepped in very nicely and in my opinion has done a better job running behind our battered offensive line. this is the type of guy we need on the team, goes out and makes plays when we ask him to, and doesnt complain when we dont ask him to.

rudi isn't going anywhere, get used to it. hopefully he puts some weight back on because this thinner "shiftier rudi" is pretty ineffective. now whether its his size, his hamstring, or the offensive line play, he hasnt done much and needs to figure it out. i think it will get solved, since he is signed for a few more years.

and of course, we need to develop continuity on the offensive line. they have looked better the past few games, but its going to take more than that.

i think it would be a waste of a pick for us to pick mcfadden, unless we already had a deal worked out in which we traded rudi and someone else for a gamechanging defensive lineman. given our history, i see us not doing anything of the sort.

[tanzillathrilla]

i do agree with what your saying too , personally i think watson should be our starting running back right now and only him...last week rudi carried i think 8-9 times while watson carried only 3-4 and i know rudi has done alot for this team in the past but right now at this point of the season watson is clearly running harder , stronger , and faster....watching them give the ball to rudi consecutively against buffalo was one of the biggest game breakers to me and obviously i blame the coaches...after his first two runs i thought for sure put kenny back in who has been doign great , but they never did..to me thats our biggest offensive problem...play calling/personnel

[Redfox]

I think a linebacker is a good pick for 2nd and thrid round, but defense line needs to be addressed in the 1st, and if by some miracle Glenn Dorsey falls into our laps at pick 4,5,6 just guessing if we keep playing like we are.....then we take him, but i think he will be either #1 or #2 picked in the draft.If we can get Glenn Dorsey we would be stupid if we didn't take him DT is one of our weakest spots and players like him don't come along very offten. I also think we need DE and LB in 2nd and 3rd rounds.

[Judge]

All defense this draft?

And hopefully pickup a good TE.

[Bengal Dude]

There's no doubt that we need defensive help, but without a new DC, they probably won't make an impact on the team.

Joe F-Flo preaches that we need to address the offense at some point and this year could be crucial. Willie is breaking down and Andrews will probably garner a lot of attention in free agency, I don't know about the rest of you, but Scott Kooistra at RT makes me to nervous. We should take a Tackle at some point in the first day. If Darren McFadden falls to us, then we may want to take him because he can be a playmaker at RB.

[Tsharpe82]

I was wondering how many of you have watched McFadden play this year? I am an Ohio State fan and my wife is from Arkansas and attended the Univ of Ark. and obviously that is her team. I am still more of an Ohio State fan but I find myself watching Arkansas every chance that I get. I have never seen a team that was so one sided on offense and still be successful. Seriously, Arkansas' offense is built around McFadden and Felix Jones. Every team knows this and yet they cannot stop McFadden. If you want to talk about a guy who has the attitude that when his team is down he is gonna pick them up and carry them. I've watched him outrun cb's and safeties, I've watched him just plain out layout huge lb's and keep on running, I've also seen him push 5-6 defenders at least 5 or 6 more yards. I guess I am biased because I have not watched Dorsey play, but without a blink of an eye McFadden is the key to taking our offense to New Englands level or above. I believe we spend the rest of our drafts on defense, but we need to start creating some chemistry on defense, so drafting a pro-bowl defender 1st round next year will not be a quick fix for our defense, their is no quick fix.

Experience and chemistry are what you need to have a successful defense. Just look at successful defenses around the league, are there any defenses that were horrible but taken to the next level because of an early 1st round D pick? Imagine Minnesota having a QB and the WR's that we have, who could stop them. Our defense is bad but we need to formulate a plan to control the clock and still score points. The game against Baltimore was so good because our offense was able to put together long drives. I say McFadden, but I will put money that he WILL NOT be there when it is our turn to draft. McFadden is the only RB I say that is good enough for us to take in the first round. Perhaps if Felix Jones slips into the second round, than perhaps pick him up, though we won't with Kenny Irons, but I am afraid he will be another Chris Perry.

[Ole'Hickory]

Hypothetically speaking, we would have to lose out the rest of the season to have
a shot at one of those too, but just for giggles I'd go with McFadden.

Why?

Even Dorsey, the defense will probably stink next year too...especially if Bresnahan is
still around. But with Mcfadden, the offense can be virtually unstoppable and that would
compensate for a lousy defense.

Never pass up a game changer at running back. See the Houston Texans for an example.

[Foop]

There is some controversy that McFadden may not be even be the best RB at Arkansas. I cannot give an opinion as I have not watched Arkansas play at all. But if you look up their stats (cannot find the link) his back up is averaging 6.1 ypc. I know that is not a realistic NFL avg.

[Jasonew6]

As bad as our defense is, if we draft McFadden, I just might have to become a Panthers fan.

Well, maybe not, but I would be very, very upset.

[OneTwistedGamer]

There is some controversy that McFadden may not be even be the best RB at Arkansas. I cannot give an opinion as I have not watched Arkansas play at all. But if you look up their stats (cannot find the link) his back up is averaging 6.1 ypc. I know that is not a realistic NFL avg.

Do you mean Felix Jones he is alot faster than Mcfadden but McFadden is a better all around player. With that said i would love to ahve either of these players but if i had to choose i have to say Glenn Dorsey. The way to win games starts with the line. I would love to see Glenn and Peko.

[Tsharpe82]

Do you mean Felix Jones he is alot faster than Mcfadden but McFadden is a better all around player. With that said i would love to ahve either of these players but if i had to choose i have to say Glenn Dorsey. The way to win games starts with the line. I would love to see Glenn and Peko.

I believe he is talking about Felix Jones and you can't take anything away from that guy either is also phenomenol(sp?). Although it might be hard to believe, but according to the announcers of the Arkansas/South Carolina game they mentioned that is was a common misconception that Felix Jones is faster than McFadden and that McFadden is actually the faster of the two. I found that a little hard to believe with his size but than I watched him pull of an 80yard run toasting the safeties and cornerbacks, and one of the cornerbacks was said to have 4.35 40yd dash times. I don't think a lot of teams in the NFL actually realize his speed, so I am very interested in seeing what he does in the sports combine next year. I do believe that Adrian Peterson's ability to shred defenses will increase McFadden's stock, for there will be teams looking for a RB to open up their offense as Peterson has done for the Vikings. I believe we would take him if he made it to us, but I'm positive he will be gone by that time.

[Redfox]

I hope Mcfadden is gone by the time we draft we need defense more than him.

[WhoDey29859]

a defensive player

[true fan]

are you kidding me if MCDONALDS OPPS I MEAN MCFADDEN IS THERE AND DORSEYS GONE TRADE DOWN A FEW SLOTS AND GET A DEFENSIVE LINEMAN PLEASE (AND KEEP HIM THERE MARVIN) HISTORY SHOWS YOU CAN GET A GOOD RUNNING BACK IN THE LATER ROUNDS 3 AND BEYOND:angry:

[fredtoast]

I'm a big SEC fan, and Iwatched both of these guys play a lot.

Dorsey looks dominating at times, but he is surrounded by a ridiculous amount of talent on that LSU defense. A lot of thier players look dominating at times. They could realistically have 3 players from their front 7 go in the first round (Dorsey, LB Ali Highsmith and DE Tyson Jackson). Dorsey is a definite first rounder, but I doubt if he weighs 300 lbs right now. He is very athletic and explosive, but I would prefer a DT who is HUGE, athletic, and explosive like Hnederson, Hampton, Williams, Haynesworth, etc.


McFadden is the best college player in the country. He should be the #1 overall pick in the draft. He is that good.