Who should we draft next year?

[Cincy Cap Head]

Not to be jumping ahead so far just wanting an opinion. I think we need some linebackers and Offensive lineman. We are very tight on linebackers. And our lineman are letting pressure come to Carson. What do you thnk?

[WhoDey_DbO]

Chris Long at UVA jumps out at me.

[Cincy Cap Head]

Yeah. I dont really watch college, but we just need some good players. We cant stop the run without Dexter Jackson

[CTA513]

In no certain order: DT, DE, LB and OL

[Cincy Cap Head]

Yeah, we need most of the defence. Whats our sacking average? like .7 a game? And we cant pressure the opponents QB at all.

[Munchkin]

There is a whole sub forum for this subject. :)

[Cincy Cap Head]

I know, my bad. i just entered the boards so im a little lost. :wacko:

[lost33cause]

DT, DT, DT, DT, DT, DT
In case you don't understand, we need help on the D line. I think we need more help at DT than DE. I think we need 2 new DT's whether through the draft or FA. I would like a DT in round 1 and a big FA DT. Then maybe a DE in round 2. Or vise versa with the DE and DT in the draft. But we haven't spent a top pick on the DL in a long time and it shows.

[Cincy Cap Head]

DT, DT, DT, DT, DT, DT
In case you don't understand, we need help on the D line. I think we need more help at DT than DE. I think we need 2 new DT's whether through the draft or FA. I would like a DT in round 1 and a big FA DT. Then maybe a DE in round 2. Or vise versa with the DE and DT in the draft. But we haven't spent a top pick on the DL in a long time and it shows.
We do need lineman who can put pressure and stop runs

[Carsons-Arsenal]

Not to be jumping ahead so far just wanting an opinion. I think we need some linebackers and Offensive lineman. We are very tight on linebackers. And our lineman are letting pressure come to Carson. What do you thnk?

First round I hope they just draft the best D-lineman available. I'd like to see them get a linebacker in the second or third round. I wish we could trade Rudi for a good pick and then maybe we could pick up a O-lineman early also.
It would be nice to think we would have a shot a A.Haynesworth.or Karlos Dansby but we never seem to come away with any free agents so I guess all we can hope for is a productive draft.

[Meatpie]

We have been draftin D for how long now? I hope they get it right this time....Dont get me wrong we have got some good players but it doesnt work out....bad luck i guess.... I say we deff.. need a beast on the line. DE DT? The very best person availble... and then next we need a Ray lewis or a Brian Urlacher Beast of a man to put in at LB... you know one who plays when hurt who can lay the hammer and Clog the holes... i dotn whatch much College FB so i dont know fi there is such a thing but thats wat we need.... ME personaly i think a LB (a very vocal team leader) is wat makes a D... That is why im such a fan of ray ray....

[Cincy Cap Head]

We have been draftin D for how long now? I hope they get it right this time....Dont get me wrong we have got some good players but it doesnt work out....bad luck i guess.... I say we deff.. need a beast on the line. DE DT? The very best person availble... and then next we need a Ray lewis or a Brian Urlacher Beast of a man to put in at LB... you know one who plays when hurt who can lay the hammer and Clog the holes... i dotn whatch much College FB so i dont know fi there is such a thing but thats wat we need.... ME personaly i think a LB (a very vocal team leader) is wat makes a D... That is why im such a fan of ray ray....
HA. Agreed

[JT5]

We need:

MLB
SLB
WLB

DE-Elite pass rushing, punishing DE, who wont melt when a pulling guard comes his way.
Geathers will develop there on the other side.
Secondary

FS
SS-possibly. Duke looks tough and will start at SS, unless that steal of the draft is there and we've managed to win a couple of games and actually pick around 18th.

Line

DT
DT One of these should be the beast of the draft class and the other, the beast of the F/A class

Oline
Just figure out who is going to play where. On paper, it's all good, until you ask them to take over a game and white knuckle some knucklehead, then they appear very soft. So we need an OT

So there's where I go.

Linebacker, linebacker, linebacker, safety, safety, DT, DE, OT, OG

[Buckeyehitman]

We need:

MLB
SLB
WLB

DE-Elite pass rushing, punishing DE, who wont melt when a pulling guard comes his way.
Geathers will develop there on the other side.
Secondary

FS
SS-possibly. Duke looks tough and will start at SS, unless that steal of the draft is there and we've managed to win a couple of games and actually pick around 18th.

Line

DT
DT One of these should be the beast of the draft class and the other, the beast of the F/A class

Oline
Just figure out who is going to play where. On paper, it's all good, until you ask them to take over a game and white knuckle some knucklehead, then they appear very soft. So we need an OT

So there's where I go.

Linebacker, linebacker, linebacker, safety, safety, DT, DE, OT, OG

Geez, panic much? There's only a few of the positions that you named that I would consider priorities.

[cinc4ever1]

Well we all have are opinion's on who we should draft but i say we really try and get Haynsworth then go after a DE in the draft,and if not that DT,DE,and LB.

I know we never spend money in free agency but i have a feeling it could change this coming offseason.

[The Galloping Ghost]

I think that we should draft someone who doesn't ***** and can stay healthy. :dry:

[Buckeyehitman]

I think that we should draft someone who doesn't **** and can stay healthy. :dry:

That was helpful.:dry:

[The Galloping Ghost]

That was helpful.:dry:

Thanks man, i always try to be helpful, that's just the kinda guy i am.

[Ole'Hickory]

Anybody that will help on defense.

[nuthenew]

The Dorsey kid from LSU.

[lost33cause]

My question is on the DE position. Do we want a monster of a DE like the guy from miami or do we want a smaller speed type DE like mathis or freeney? I am definetly torn on this. If I had to make a decision I would say a speed DE that is specail at getting to the qb on obvious passing downs.

[bengaldefense]

If it is in the draft we need a player that can make an impact right away. The d line help needs to come in FA.

[Joe from Florence]

Not to be jumping ahead so far just wanting an opinion. I think we need some linebackers and Offensive lineman. We are very tight on linebackers. And our lineman are letting pressure come to Carson. What do you thnk?
McFadden

end of discussion :lol:

[Jasonew6]

Best player available at any defensive position.

[DCBengalFreak]

Well we all have are opinion's on who we should draft but i say we really try and get Haynsworth then go after a DE in the draft,and if not that DT,DE,and LB.


Just what we need, another headcase. I'd like to see him do something in a non-contract year before we throw huge money at him.

I would like to see us pick up some DTs though. I think the root of our problem starts up front in the middle of the line where we don't have a big DT that can command a double team and move the pile.

[howardtheduck69]

I think we should draft an injury prone runningback. Hard to find, but we do seem to have a good nose for uncovering these gems.

[Carp]

I believe we need a real team motivating monster like the "Monticello Roughneck-Give 'em **** Odell" Thurman. I would love to see him come back (i know-i know) so we could spend time/money on the D-line. Scare the other team's run and force them to toss it up for Oneil, DJ, MW, etc.

Lauranitus would be nice...:rolleyes:

[bennettlj]

Of Course Dorsey from LSU, not only do we need a DT we need someone is willing to sacrifice himself for the team. I watch LSU you and watch Dorsey get hurt and heard the commentators, mention that Dorsey should probably hang it up and just sit out for the draft because he had a bright future in the NFL. Dorsey got back in and made a difference in the game, that is what we need, not crying punks that sat out a year for a hamstring

[Joe from Florence]

I think we should draft an injury prone runningback. Hard to find, but we do seem to have a good nose for uncovering these gems.
or waste another 4 or 5 draft picks on defensive players that do absolutley nothing.

i say screw defense, 10 out of 13 first day picks on defensive players have been a waste, our defense has only gotten worse and now our offense is getting worse.
I wouldn't care if we drafted offense in all 7 rounds to tell you the truth. We've already proven our defensive picks don't do anything to improve the defense so why even waste another year in drafting defensive players.

[Bengal_Babe]

or waste another 4 or 5 draft picks on defensive players that do absolutley nothing.

i say screw defense, 10 out of 13 first day picks on defensive players have been a waste, our defense has only gotten worse and now our offense is getting worse.
I wouldn't care if we drafted offense in all 7 rounds to tell you the truth. We've already proven our defensive picks don't do anything to improve the defense so why even waste another year in drafting defensive players.

Yeah, we're horrible....why do anything to get better? Thats just crazy talk. :wacko:

[HR24]

I'd say the following order:

1. LB
2. DT/DE
3. TE
4. OL
5. WR
6. RB
7. S/WR/LB/OL (any would do here as this is your ST slot)

Of course, this isn't taking into effect any of our compensatory picks we should be getting. To me, the top three are interchangeable. All three are need positions on this team. I think the DL could be addressed via F/A. Smith will be gone which means we will need another DE to take the pressure off of Geathers.

[Redfox]

I would say,

1. DT
2.DE
3.LB
4.OL
5.TE
6.DL
7.DB

[DennyG2]

we should draft the top rated injury prone running back.

[Carson4mvp]

Not to be jumping ahead so far just wanting an opinion. I think we need some linebackers and Offensive lineman. We are very tight on linebackers. And our lineman are letting pressure come to Carson. What do you thnk?

Depends on the pick we get

[Carson4mvp]

or waste another 4 or 5 draft picks on defensive players that do absolutley nothing.

i say screw defense, 10 out of 13 first day picks on defensive players have been a waste, our defense has only gotten worse and now our offense is getting worse.
I wouldn't care if we drafted offense in all 7 rounds to tell you the truth. We've already proven our defensive picks don't do anything to improve the defense so why even waste another year in drafting defensive players.

I'm with you joe on screwing the D in the draft, i'd so lets get McFadden he would bring so much to our O (if he dont get injured)

[Buckeyehitman]

I'm with you joe on screwing the D in the draft, i'd so lets get McFadden he would bring so much to our O (if he dont get injured)

What message does drafting McFadden send to Irons though? We drafted him in the second round, and now we're drafting another guy. not to mention Rudi, I mean it isn't a great thing to draft two RBs on the first day in back to back years.

I know you all think he's garbage but I really think this might be an off year.

If you're going to draft McFadden, you have to either unload those two RBs or consider their morale.

[Carson4mvp]

What message does drafting McFadden send to Irons though? We drafted him in the second round, and now we're drafting another guy. not to mention Rudi, I mean it isn't a great thing to draft two RBs on the first day in back to back years.

I know you all think he's garbage but I really think this might be an off year.

If you're going to draft McFadden, you have to either unload those two RBs or consider their morale.

Rudi-Hes about used up
Irons-Hasent gotten to play yet (so dont know what he capable of)
Perry-Injury prone
Watson-Desent back

McFadden-Very FAST and great vision

What have we drafted D that has helped us really? (maybe Hall)

So why not give make out O better and go after D in free angency

[Buckeyehitman]

Rudi-Hes about used up
Irons-Hasent gotten to play yet (so dont know what he capable of)
Perry-Injury prone
Watson-Desent back

McFadden-Very FAST and great vision

What have we drafted D that has helped us really? (maybe Hall)

So why not give make out O better and go after D in free angency

Yeah, but you have 3 RB spots, so who do you get rid out of in order to draft mcfadden?

Dorsey
R. Johnson
Irons
Watson
Perry

Three of those backs have to be traded or cut....

[Carson4mvp]

Yeah, but you have 3 RB spots, so who do you get rid out of in order to draft mcfadden?

Dorsey
R. Johnson
Irons
Watson
Perry

Three of those backs have to be traded or cut....

Dorsey,Perry,Rudi

[Buckeyehitman]

Dorsey,Perry,Rudi

So you are only keeping one starter from the past 4 years.

Interesting.

[Fan_in_Fairborn]

James Laurinaitis! That's a no-brainer but even with our less than stellar record we might be picking too late to bag him.

[DennyG2]

James Laurinaitis! That's a no-brainer but even with our less than stellar record we might be picking too late to bag him.
makes good sense, do you think he will leave as a jr.?

[Fan_in_Fairborn]

Oh that's right! I totally forgot James Laurinaitis is only a junior. Well, personally, I hope he stays in school and completes his degree of study then. That is, after all, what being in college is all about. :cool: However, if he declares himself to be draft-eligible, I say we grab him if we can!

[JT5]

Is the Lyman(sp?) kid a senior? If so, where does he rank this early on the draft pundits' list?

If he is in the draft in 08 and somehow lasts until the second round, he'd be a steal.

With that said, you have to draft D until you get it right. This D aint right. We could seriously have eight new starters next year and still be better than this year. They are miserable to watch.

We have to have three new linebackers in 08, that's all there is to it. I dont think Brooks takes his work seriously and Lewis has already hinted at his injury as "how much a player can tolerate" as to how long he'll be out. Most of these injured panzies wont be back in 08.

[djam]

Is it possible to draft a defensive coordinator? That's what this team needs most, imo. Otherwise I say take the best player available.

[Fan_in_Fairborn]

We have to have three new linebackers in 08, that's all there is to it. I dont think Brooks takes his work seriously and Lewis has already hinted at his injury as "how much a player can tolerate" as to how long he'll be out. Most of these injured panzies wont be back in 08.

While I understand your line of thinking I am going to defend Ahmad Brooks. What I saw from Ahmad in the first Ravens game and also on the first series against the Browns before he got injured sold me on his abilities and competitive spirit. A middle linebacker simply does not play that well without serious study and mental preparation. I truly hope he is back in 2008.

[fan_since_'70]

Not to be jumping ahead so far just wanting an opinion. I think we need some linebackers and Offensive lineman. We are very tight on linebackers. And our lineman are letting pressure come to Carson. What do you thnk?

This is the NFL, QB's are going to be pressured (unless they are playing the Bengals :dry:), the good ones deal with it. The stats say Carson has been sacked 13 times in 9 games, that puts the Bengals in the top 3rd of the league in fewest sacks allowed. Considering all the shuffling on the OL this year, I don't see it taking priority over more obvious trouble spots.

[cinc4ever1]

Just what we need, another headcase. I'd like to see him do something in a non-contract year before we throw huge money at him.

I would like to see us pick up some DTs though. I think the root of our problem starts up front in the middle of the line where we don't have a big DT that can command a double team and move the pile.


How is he a head case besides the time he steped on someones head.I need you to give me something else then that before we talk about not making a run at him.

[BleedingBlackandOrange]

Is it possible to draft a defensive coordinator? That's what this team needs most, imo. Otherwise I say take the best player available.

:rotf:

If they are there when we get our pick I say James Laurinaitis, Glen Dorsey, Chris Long, Sedrick Ellis or Frank Okam... Also it would be hard to pass on Mcfadden... I mean we made that mistake in 2001 drafting Justin Smith over Ladian Tomlinson and we all know how that turned out dont we? :dry:

[Tsharpe82]

I say McFadden and I've watched all of the Bengals this game this year and see that our defense is hurting and I still say McFadden if he is available.

If you haven't seen this guy play than you are missing out on a lot. This guy is faster than most safeties and corners in college, and this guy can run over any linebacker and still keep running in stride, not to mention he has great hands, great vision, and he can also throw the ball. When it comes to backs that can do it all I can't think of one better than McFadden, I've seen him just carry the Razorbacks and in a lot of games where they didn't have a chance, I've seen him single-handedly bring them back into the game. How many college teams put their #1 RB back to return kickoffs? This guy returns kickoffs also, I am not even a Razorbacks fan, but I have watched every Arkansas game that was televised in my area this season and last.

This guy has a winning attitude and I have not seen him take any plays off yet. If we have the chance and pass him up this will be a huge mistake. I think we get what we can from Rudi in some sort of trade, I also say that we keep Kenny Irons.

If you watch Arkansas games you know they do not have a pass game, its just non-existent. They have McFadden and Felix Jones. Like I said, McFadden is the all around back that can do it all, but than you have Felix Jones that is also a fast back that is excellent at cut backs and that is what we would have with Irons. The combination of the two with the WR and QB we have, we would be unstoppable. The ability to control the clock would give our Defense less time on the field and it really is a matter of time before the D starts jelling. It would be nice to pick up a big time Defender from Free agency, this team lacks that superstar Defensive captain. I personnally do not want to see us blow this opportunity with McFadden for a Defensive pick in the first round that would end up a bust.

[kpetrin]

Chris Long at UVA jumps out at me.

Not unless we move up to one of the top 3 spots; this kid is NFL pro at his time playing college ball.

[bengal_prideforlife]

McFadden

end of discussion :lol:I actually agree with this (or were you kidding LOL)....we obviously need defense and lots of it but I think if Mcfadden is available there is no way you dont pick him. A RB is always one of the surest picks you can make because they have the least amount of likelyhood to be a draft bust....not that it hasnt happened (Ki-Jana Carter) but usually they pan out and become pretty solid players....if he is not available there is no other offensive player that would be worth looking at then we just get by till next year and draft big Beanie Wells.....HE HE I am a homer what can I say but God that kid is good!!!!!

[bengal_prideforlife]

James Laurinaitis! That's a no-brainer but even with our less than stellar record we might be picking too late to bag him.He will not be available because he will be preparing for a Buckeyes NC season next year.....God I know this isnt a college forum but they are going to be GOOOOOD next year......YESSSSSSS!!! That being said if he is available we pick him over ANYONE.....he is a beast!!!!

[Joe F- Cincinnati]

Is the Lyman(sp?) kid a senior? If so, where does he rank this early on the draft pundits' list?

If he is in the draft in 08 and somehow lasts until the second round, he'd be a steal.

With that said, you have to draft D until you get it right. This D aint right. We could seriously have eight new starters next year and still be better than this year. They are miserable to watch.

We have to have three new linebackers in 08, that's all there is to it. I dont think Brooks takes his work seriously and Lewis has already hinted at his injury as "how much a player can tolerate" as to how long he'll be out. Most of these injured panzies wont be back in 08.

I think you're referring to J Lehman out of Illinois. Yes, he is a senior, and he's the kind of linebacker (and person for that matter) that the Bengals desperately need. He's big, tough, sheds blocks well, and he TACKLES. It's anyone's guess at this point where Lehman will go in the draft, but he's definitely someone to keep in mind.

[ryan75705]

well let me see???? we wont have justin smith anymore so i think DE. we need pressure on opposing quarterbacks and without that, any wide receiver can beat any corner if they have all day to run around

[Joe from Florence]

James Laurinaitis! That's a no-brainer but even with our less than stellar record we might be picking too late to bag him.
I've yet to be very impressed with a buckey LB in the nfl. AJ Hawks may be the best one, but he's still not that stud LB many thought he'd be comming out last year. The rest haven't done great in the NFL.

One school that has always been able to turn out stud defensive players especially LB's has been the Miami Hurricanes. I don't know any of their LB's this year, one because i hate that team, and 2 i haven't seen any hurricanes games this year, but they can do one thing, they can turn out some stud LB's

OSU turns out some stud CB's, but not LB's, Miami turns out some stud defensive players so i wouldn't mind drafting someone from "The U"

but line is where we need to address first.

[true fan]

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Re: Who should we draft next year?

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Chris Long at UVA jumps out at me.

we already got him in justin smith how about Vernon Gholston de ohio state

[true fan]

WhoDey_DbO i'm from dayton what part are you from i was in downtown dayton before i jumped ship