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Pro Joey 1427
07-23-2007, 04:21 PM
Polumalu gets new four-year contract worth $33 million!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2946532&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines
He is now officially overpaid! He will make nearly double what he made in the past yearly.

Steely_J
07-23-2007, 04:22 PM
Polumalu gets new contract worth $33 million!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2946532&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines
He is now officially overpaid!


Hahahaha!

And I LOVE IT!

Jom112
07-23-2007, 04:32 PM
$8.25 Million per year. I'm surprised it went that high but I guess that's the way salaries are going now with the increase in the salary cap. I was thinking Polamalu would get around $7 Mil at the most.
We should expect to hear Faneca whining even more now...

Joe from Florence
07-23-2007, 05:07 PM
Polumalu gets new contract worth $33 million!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2946532&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines
He is now officially overpaid!


Hahahaha!

And I LOVE IT!

hmmmmm....this is great!!! I remember ALL the steeler fans on here when Carson signed his contract and you all saying how it was way too much and it will affect the rest of the team in being able to sign other players, and how it was a bad contract because he could get hurt......now the shoe seems to be on the other foot and you just paid a player who got hurt the richest contract for all safeties in NFL history.......now i get to enjoy watching you all talk out of both sides of your mouth defending this one.
the floor is officially yours steeler fans....lets hear you all back track on the contracts now [:D]

Steely_J
07-23-2007, 05:16 PM
$8.25 Million per year. I'm surprised it went that high but I guess that's the way salaries are going now with the increase in the salary cap. I was thinking Polamalu would get around $7 Mil at the most.
We should expect to hear Faneca whining even more now...


I hope he does! Gives me more reason to feel better about his departure. I'm tired of hearing his complaints. He acts like there's no one else to do the job? Like he wont be replaced? Does he know what team he plays for? We pop in superstars to fill holes every year... heck.. that's how he came in!!

The complaining and outwardly selfish way he has been in the media ever since we hired Tomlin has been unacceptable in my eyes. He criticized the decision to hire Tomlin, criticized Porter being let go, criticized his contract offer.... I always regarded him as one of the good guys on the team, but now he seems more like a pouting selfish *******.

It's sad really. I rather not have him on the team with his attitude, and I'm very skeptical at how well he'll play this season. That kind of attitude is a locker room cancer.

Steely_J
07-23-2007, 05:18 PM
Polumalu gets new contract worth $33 million!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2946532&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines
He is now officially overpaid!


Hahahaha!

And I LOVE IT!

hmmmmm....this is great!!! I remember ALL the steeler fans on here when Carson signed his contract and you all saying how it was way too much and it will affect the rest of the team in being able to sign other players, and how it was a bad contract because he could get hurt......now the shoe seems to be on the other foot and you just paid a player who got hurt the richest contract for all safeties in NFL history.......now i get to enjoy watching you all talk out of both sides of your mouth defending this one.
the floor is officially yours steeler fans....lets hear you all back track on the contracts now [:D]


Hey it's no different than when Bengals fans do it! So you should be quite familiar with how it goes! [:D]

Besides, I'm very happy the locked in Troy, as well as their rookies,.. seems like things are movin' swiftly in the Steelers front office!

ikestops85
07-23-2007, 05:36 PM
$8.25 Million per year. I'm surprised it went that high but I guess that's the way salaries are going now with the increase in the salary cap. I was thinking Polamalu would get around $7 Mil at the most.
We should expect to hear Faneca whining even more now...

You were correct in thinking around $7 million a year. He's getting $33 million but it is really over 5 years, not 4, which is why the article says $6.6 million a year. Sounds like a bargain to me.

sloppy lombardi slaps
07-23-2007, 05:43 PM
I hope he does! Gives me more reason to feel better about his departure. I'm tired of hearing his complaints. He acts like there's no one else to do the job? Like he wont be replaced? Does he know what team he plays for? We pop in superstars to fill holes every year... heck.. that's how he came in!!

The complaining and outwardly selfish way he has been in the media ever since we hired Tomlin has been unacceptable in my eyes. He criticized the decision to hire Tomlin, criticized Porter being let go, criticized his contract offer.... I always regarded him as one of the good guys on the team, but now he seems more like a pouting selfish *******.

It's sad really. I rather not have him on the team with his attitude, and I'm very skeptical at how well he'll play this season. That kind of attitude is a locker room cancer.


If a team doesn't want a veteran leader getting upset about not getting paid maybe they should...pay him?

Jom112
07-23-2007, 06:27 PM
$8.25 Million per year. I'm surprised it went that high but I guess that's the way salaries are going now with the increase in the salary cap. I was thinking Polamalu would get around $7 Mil at the most.
We should expect to hear Faneca whining even more now...

You were correct in thinking around $7 million a year. He's getting $33 million but it is really over 5 years, not 4, which is why the article says $6.6 million a year. Sounds like a bargain to me.

According to NFL.com it's going to be around $7.5 Mil per season:
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/PIT/10266147
A four year - $30.19 Million dollar contract. That is pretty high for a safety.
IMO, players such as Carson and Polamalu you can't really "overpay" for because of how important they are to the team. But paying $7.5 Mil for a safety is not a good sign for future NFL signings. For all the Steeler fans that jumped all over the Colts for what they did to DE prices, you just did the same thing for safeties.
Although seeing all these signings, it appears that with the new salary cap this is just the way it's going to be from now on. Which means the Bengals are one of the smartest franchises for locking up Carson, Chad, Geathers, Levi and Willie before the salary cap rose. Too bad we couldn't get TJ locked up as well (Probably not the best choice of words, now that I think about it)...

MikeSchank
07-23-2007, 08:44 PM
$8.25 Million per year. I'm surprised it went that high but I guess that's the way salaries are going now with the increase in the salary cap. I was thinking Polamalu would get around $7 Mil at the most.
We should expect to hear Faneca whining even more now...

You were correct in thinking around $7 million a year. He's getting $33 million but it is really over 5 years, not 4, which is why the article says $6.6 million a year. Sounds like a bargain to me.

According to NFL.com it's going to be around $7.5 Mil per season:
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/PIT/10266147
A four year - $30.19 Million dollar contract. That is pretty high for a safety.
IMO, players such as Carson and Polamalu you can't really "overpay" for because of how important they are to the team. But paying $7.5 Mil for a safety is not a good sign for future NFL signings. For all the Steeler fans that jumped all over the Colts for what they did to DE prices, you just did the same thing for safeties.
Although seeing all these signings, it appears that with the new salary cap this is just the way it's going to be from now on. Which means the Bengals are one of the smartest franchises for locking up Carson, Chad, Geathers, Levi and Willie before the salary cap rose. Too bad we couldn't get TJ locked up as well (Probably not the best choice of words, now that I think about it)...


It does make it harder especially because now we'll have to pay Roethlisberger at least that much since he'll want more than a defensive player, even if his numbers don't improve this season. What do people think about the possibility of this deal truly affecting Ben's contract?

The Bat
07-23-2007, 09:01 PM
It does make it harder especially because now we'll have to pay Roethlisberger at least that much since he'll want more than a defensive player, even if his numbers don't improve this season. What do people think about the possibility of this deal truly affecting Ben's contract?


We could care less.

MikeSchank
07-23-2007, 09:05 PM
It does make it harder especially because now we'll have to pay Roethlisberger at least that much since he'll want more than a defensive player, even if his numbers don't improve this season. What do people think about the possibility of this deal truly affecting Ben's contract?


We could care less.

I was asking since this is clearly the Steelers message board, you troll.

The Bat
07-23-2007, 09:15 PM
It does make it harder especially because now we'll have to pay Roethlisberger at least that much since he'll want more than a defensive player, even if his numbers don't improve this season. What do people think about the possibility of this deal truly affecting Ben's contract?


We could care less.

I was asking since this is clearly the Steelers message board, you troll.

oooh he's a spunky little newbie isn't he? Does your mom know your on the computer this late?

Buckeyehitman
07-23-2007, 09:15 PM
$8.25 Million per year. I'm surprised it went that high but I guess that's the way salaries are going now with the increase in the salary cap. I was thinking Polamalu would get around $7 Mil at the most.
We should expect to hear Faneca whining even more now...

You were correct in thinking around $7 million a year. He's getting $33 million but it is really over 5 years, not 4, which is why the article says $6.6 million a year. Sounds like a bargain to me.

According to NFL.com it's going to be around $7.5 Mil per season:
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/PIT/10266147
A four year - $30.19 Million dollar contract. That is pretty high for a safety.
IMO, players such as Carson and Polamalu you can't really "overpay" for because of how important they are to the team. But paying $7.5 Mil for a safety is not a good sign for future NFL signings. For all the Steeler fans that jumped all over the Colts for what they did to DE prices, you just did the same thing for safeties.
Although seeing all these signings, it appears that with the new salary cap this is just the way it's going to be from now on. Which means the Bengals are one of the smartest franchises for locking up Carson, Chad, Geathers, Levi and Willie before the salary cap rose. Too bad we couldn't get TJ locked up as well (Probably not the best choice of words, now that I think about it)...


It does make it harder especially because now we'll have to pay Roethlisberger at least that much since he'll want more than a defensive player, even if his numbers don't improve this season. What do people think about the possibility of this deal truly affecting Ben's contract?

It shouldn't affect it too badly. Contracts do not rise and fall depending on what side of the ball you are on. I'm willing to bet Ray Lewis making heads and shoulders above what McNair is, and McNair probably doesn't care. Roethlisberger controls his own fate. If he plays this year like he did last year, he has no right to ask for what Polamalu got. If he does well they might give him something comparable. However, it would be unrealistic for him to ask for major money without proper output. I don't care what position you play, you can't ask for more money than a player who is probably the best player on that side of the ball. It would be the equivalent of the Bengals giving John Thornton (nothing wrong with him, good player) Rudi Johnson money (I would say Carson, but that's ridiculous).
So again, Ben's next contract is in his hands.

MikeSchank
07-23-2007, 09:18 PM
It does make it harder especially because now we'll have to pay Roethlisberger at least that much since he'll want more than a defensive player, even if his numbers don't improve this season. What do people think about the possibility of this deal truly affecting Ben's contract?


We could care less.

I was asking since this is clearly the Steelers message board, you troll.

oooh he's a spunky little newbie isn't he? Does your mom know your on the computer this late?

A mom joke? Did you get that from the Book of Hackneyed Burns that you keep on the back of your toilet?

The Bat
07-23-2007, 09:23 PM
A mom joke? Did you get that from the Book of Hackneyed Burns that you keep on the back of your toilet?

Nope, just trying to communicate with you on what seems to be your intelligence level so far... [;)]

I mean, you are the one who thinks you're on a Steelers board, but that's understandable since you all don't know the difference between ****** yellow and gold...

MikeSchank
07-23-2007, 09:29 PM
A mom joke? Did you get that from the Book of Hackneyed Burns that you keep on the back of your toilet?

Nope, just trying to communicate with you on what seems to be your intelligence level so far... [;)]

I mean, you are the one who thinks you're on a Steelers board, but that's understandable since you all don't know the difference between ****** yellow and gold...

I used to post under a different name, which only makes another of your redundant jokes about gold/yellow even more boring than I thought it could be. I guess if my team so consistently failed when it really mattered I would cling to petty issues like you do.

The Bat
07-23-2007, 09:31 PM
I used to post under a different name, which only makes another of your redundant jokes about gold/yellow even more boring than I thought it could be. I guess if my team so consistently failed when it really mattered I would cling to petty issues like you do.


So you're still working on that sense of humor then? I guessing you were just as boring and dry under your "other" screen name... No doubt you got banned for being a typical Steeler troll.

Oh well... [:(]

Beaker
07-23-2007, 09:39 PM
I used to post under a different name
Translation: I am really a troll and have been banned before.
I guess if my team so consistently failed when it really mattered I would cling to petty issues like you do.
Translation: Bandwagon jumper who became a steeler fan after SB40 in an effort to forget about his own consistent failures at life.

Jom112
07-23-2007, 09:47 PM
I think it will effect Ben's contract somewhat. But it's already a given that Ben was going to become the highest paid player on the team. With the rise in salaries for anyone with a pulse these days I'm assuming Ben should be making 8 figures per season.
Palmer is making about $13 Mil per season
Brees is making about $10 Mil per season
Even Chad Pennington is making about $9 Mil per season
I'm guessing Ben will probably be asking for $10 - $12 mil per season. I can even see him pushing for $13-$14 Mil per season. I think it's ridiculous but after seeing what a safety just got, it's definitely feasible...

CalSteeler
07-23-2007, 10:36 PM
I think it's a bit high for Troy, to make him the highest paid safety, but NFL salaries are rising across the board. Troy is a great player, one of the best, I just don't think he has the track record of an Ed Reed. Very glad to have him wrapped up for anohter 4 years though.


As far as Faneca goes, he needs to STFU. He was made the highest paid guard in the league when he signed his last contract. He needs to deal with the reality that he doesn't deserve the cartoon money the stupider franchises are giving medicore in a C3. Someone will give it to him and cripple their salary cap, just glad it won't be us.

Beaker
07-23-2007, 10:38 PM
I must say I gotta give the steelers props for signing all their rookies and extending #43.

Steely_J
07-23-2007, 10:39 PM
I hope he does! Gives me more reason to feel better about his departure. I'm tired of hearing his complaints. He acts like there's no one else to do the job? Like he wont be replaced? Does he know what team he plays for? We pop in superstars to fill holes every year... heck.. that's how he came in!!

The complaining and outwardly selfish way he has been in the media ever since we hired Tomlin has been unacceptable in my eyes. He criticized the decision to hire Tomlin, criticized Porter being let go, criticized his contract offer.... I always regarded him as one of the good guys on the team, but now he seems more like a pouting selfish *******.

It's sad really. I rather not have him on the team with his attitude, and I'm very skeptical at how well he'll play this season. That kind of attitude is a locker room cancer.


If a team doesn't want a veteran leader getting upset about not getting paid maybe they should...pay him?


They did... Troy got $33Million! [H]

Joe from Florence
07-23-2007, 10:53 PM
A mom joke? Did you get that from the Book of Hackneyed Burns that you keep on the back of your toilet?

Nope, just trying to communicate with you on what seems to be your intelligence level so far... [;)]

I mean, you are the one who thinks you're on a Steelers board, but that's understandable since you all don't know the difference between ****** yellow and gold...

I used to post under a different name, which only makes another of your redundant jokes about gold/yellow even more boring than I thought it could be. I guess if my team so consistently failed when it really mattered I would cling to petty issues like you do.

yep, the intelligence of the trolls never ceases to amaze me sometimes....i love how tools who were formaerly banned come back with different names only to point out to others they used to go by another name which basically means they have been previously banned.
This intelligence makes me laugh.....any takers on how long the tool takes to get banned again?

Jom112
07-24-2007, 12:18 AM
A mom joke? Did you get that from the Book of Hackneyed Burns that you keep on the back of your toilet?

Nope, just trying to communicate with you on what seems to be your intelligence level so far... [;)]

I mean, you are the one who thinks you're on a Steelers board, but that's understandable since you all don't know the difference between ****** yellow and gold...

I used to post under a different name, which only makes another of your redundant jokes about gold/yellow even more boring than I thought it could be. I guess if my team so consistently failed when it really mattered I would cling to petty issues like you do.

yep, the intelligence of the trolls never ceases to amaze me sometimes....i love how tools who were formaerly banned come back with different names only to point out to others they used to go by another name which basically means they have been previously banned.
This intelligence makes me laugh.....any takers on how long the tool takes to get banned again?

I'm just hoping he doesn't say "Castles made of sand"...

doctorhook18
07-24-2007, 09:34 AM
*****Disclaimer***** I am not a Steelers sympathizer! However I have no problem with a team paying crazy money to keep one of their own. (Unless you count that Lions DT that I have never heard of getting paid ridiculous money!) I think the guy has definately earned it, is a playmaker, and a leader on the team. Honestly, I'm impressed that the Rooney family got off their tight ***** and broke open the check book for him! 'Bout time! Not a big fan of the hair, but the guy is one of the best safeties and defensive playmakers in the league! If Nate Clements is worth almost 10 mil a year, Troy is worth that and more! This means Irsay is really going to have to hit his hip if he wants to resign Bob Sanders.

My question is this. Can you really give a guy that can't play 16 games that kind of cash?
Who is the next Bengal FA that is going to break the bank?

Joe from Florence
07-24-2007, 09:45 AM
I think it's a great signing, just as i thought the carson contract was a great signing by the bengals. I just find it amusing that when Carson got his new contract all the steeler fans on here bashed it and said how ridiculous it was to sign a player to such a big contract and that it would hurt the team...which it hasn't....and now they are in the same situation and they all think it's great....that is what makes me laugh...the hypocrisy by some is amusing.
Now what i worry about is the contract for Madieu...whose had better 2 seasons than Troy when they both played may be too much money. His contract is up for renewing after this season and could cost us too much money.

Jom112
07-24-2007, 09:47 AM
*****Disclaimer***** I am not a Steelers sympathizer! However I have no problem with a team paying crazy money to keep one of their own. (Unless you count that Lions DT that I have never heard of getting paid ridiculous money!) I think the guy has definately earned it, is a playmaker, and a leader on the team. Honestly, I'm impressed that the Rooney family got off their tight ***** and broke open the check book for him! 'Bout time! Not a big fan of the hair, but the guy is one of the best safeties and defensive playmakers in the league! If Nate Clements is worth almost 10 mil a year, Troy is worth that and more! This means Irsay is really going to have to hit his hip if he wants to resign Bob Sanders.

My question is this. Can you really give a guy that can't play 16 games that kind of cash?
Who is the next Bengal FA that is going to break the bank?

Justin Smith. He won't break the bank but he'll get paid in the Patrick Kerny range. Luckily it won't be by the Bengals.
TJ Housh will be breaking the bank next. He'll be a FA after the '08 season.
After those two, we pretty much locked up everyone else to long term contracts. I could see JJ breaking the bank in several years when his rookie contract is up, but that's a long ways away. The sleeper is probably Madieu Williams if he has a breakout year (another one). He's a FA after this season...

BigJohnWC
07-24-2007, 09:53 AM
Well, I will say, that althought it's a bit high ... if any Safety was going to get the contract of "highest paid safety." I hate him on the field opposing me, but I truly respect his raw talent.
I see him play and feel like I'm not watching one of today's greats, I'm watching one of the greats of all-time (someone who'll set the standard for future Safeties).
If I have to watch a Steelers game, you can bet money that Troy is the one person I'm watching on the field for every play.

calell83
07-24-2007, 09:54 AM
I think it's a great signing, just as i thought the carson contract was a great signing by the bengals. I just find it amusing that when Carson got his new contract all the steeler fans on here bashed it and said how ridiculous it was to sign a player to such a big contract and that it would hurt the team...which it hasn't....and now they are in the same situation and they all think it's great....that is what makes me laugh...the hypocrisy by some is amusing.
Now what i worry about is the contract for Madieu...whose had better 2 seasons than Troy when they both played may be too much money. His contract is up for renewing after this season and could cost us too much money.

Madieu better then Troy...lol...Here come the stats....I see it ....But let me say...your safety, who no one knows may put up good stats, but Troy changes games...and remember alot more teams form the offense make it into your secondary...

Pro Joey 1427
07-24-2007, 10:00 AM
I agree that Housh will break the bank next, but deservedly.
And even though I said he is overpaid at the start of the thread, he really is worth it. I only said that because of certain fans saying he wont ask for that much (lol). Polumalu holds that defense down and if it takes the biggest contract in Steeler history to keep him, then hey, you gotta do what ya' gotta do.

Jom112
07-24-2007, 10:08 AM
I think it's a great signing, just as i thought the carson contract was a great signing by the bengals. I just find it amusing that when Carson got his new contract all the steeler fans on here bashed it and said how ridiculous it was to sign a player to such a big contract and that it would hurt the team...which it hasn't....and now they are in the same situation and they all think it's great....that is what makes me laugh...the hypocrisy by some is amusing.
Now what i worry about is the contract for Madieu...whose had better 2 seasons than Troy when they both played may be too much money. His contract is up for renewing after this season and could cost us too much money.

Madieu better then Troy...lol...Here come the stats....I see it ....But let me say...your safety, who no one knows may put up good stats, but Troy changes games...and remember alot more teams form the offense make it into your secondary...



So you're saying Troy doesn't have to make as many plays as Madieu and it's the front 7 not the secondary for the Steelers that make the majority of the plays on your team?
So you guys just broke the bank for a guy that rarely sees a defender in his area?

calell83
07-24-2007, 10:17 AM
I think it's a great signing, just as i thought the carson contract was a great signing by the bengals. I just find it amusing that when Carson got his new contract all the steeler fans on here bashed it and said how ridiculous it was to sign a player to such a big contract and that it would hurt the team...which it hasn't....and now they are in the same situation and they all think it's great....that is what makes me laugh...the hypocrisy by some is amusing.
Now what i worry about is the contract for Madieu...whose had better 2 seasons than Troy when they both played may be too much money. His contract is up for renewing after this season and could cost us too much money.

Madieu better then Troy...lol...Here come the stats....I see it ....But let me say...your safety, who no one knows may put up good stats, but Troy changes games...and remember alot more teams form the offense make it into your secondary...



So you're saying Troy doesn't have to make as many plays as Madieu and it's the front 7 not the secondary for the Steelers that make the majority of the plays on your team?
So you guys just broke the bank for a guy that rarely sees a defender in his area?

Sigh....Troy will change games...
Mostly what I am saying is that your D lets RB's get to the secondary...calm down....

Joe from Florence
07-24-2007, 10:19 AM
I think it's a great signing, just as i thought the carson contract was a great signing by the bengals. I just find it amusing that when Carson got his new contract all the steeler fans on here bashed it and said how ridiculous it was to sign a player to such a big contract and that it would hurt the team...which it hasn't....and now they are in the same situation and they all think it's great....that is what makes me laugh...the hypocrisy by some is amusing.
Now what i worry about is the contract for Madieu...whose had better 2 seasons than Troy when they both played may be too much money. His contract is up for renewing after this season and could cost us too much money.

Madieu better then Troy...lol...Here come the stats....I see it ....But let me say...your safety, who no one knows may put up good stats, but Troy changes games...and remember alot more teams form the offense make it into your secondary...



Your right, Troy does change games, i personally witnessed him changing more games last year than you'll ever admit....I remember him changing the game against the bengals the first time we played getting burned on several deep passes as he did all season long.....yep your right Troy is a game changer, unfortunatley for you it wasn't the way you wanted the games to be changed last year.

SmallAxe
07-24-2007, 10:21 AM
I'm not surprised that they #43 got paid. He's usually all over the field and making plays, and he's a fan favorite. Now, I hope he gets fat just like Buster Douglas after he knocked out Tyson and got paid. [:O] [;)]

Jom112
07-24-2007, 10:23 AM
I think it's a great signing, just as i thought the carson contract was a great signing by the bengals. I just find it amusing that when Carson got his new contract all the steeler fans on here bashed it and said how ridiculous it was to sign a player to such a big contract and that it would hurt the team...which it hasn't....and now they are in the same situation and they all think it's great....that is what makes me laugh...the hypocrisy by some is amusing.
Now what i worry about is the contract for Madieu...whose had better 2 seasons than Troy when they both played may be too much money. His contract is up for renewing after this season and could cost us too much money.

Madieu better then Troy...lol...Here come the stats....I see it ....But let me say...your safety, who no one knows may put up good stats, but Troy changes games...and remember alot more teams form the offense make it into your secondary...



So you're saying Troy doesn't have to make as many plays as Madieu and it's the front 7 not the secondary for the Steelers that make the majority of the plays on your team?
So you guys just broke the bank for a guy that rarely sees a defender in his area?

Sigh....Troy will change games...
Mostly what I am saying is that your D lets RB's get to the secondary...calm down....

I'm just giving you a hard time. Troy is a good player. Just don't know if he's worth $1 Million more per season than Ed Reed...

Steely_J
07-24-2007, 10:34 AM
I think it's a great signing, just as i thought the carson contract was a great signing by the bengals. I just find it amusing that when Carson got his new contract all the steeler fans on here bashed it and said how ridiculous it was to sign a player to such a big contract and that it would hurt the team...which it hasn't....and now they are in the same situation and they all think it's great....that is what makes me laugh...the hypocrisy by some is amusing.
Now what i worry about is the contract for Madieu...whose had better 2 seasons than Troy when they both played may be too much money. His contract is up for renewing after this season and could cost us too much money.

Madieu better then Troy...lol...Here come the stats....I see it ....But let me say...your safety, who no one knows may put up good stats, but Troy changes games...and remember alot more teams form the offense make it into your secondary...



So you're saying Troy doesn't have to make as many plays as Madieu and it's the front 7 not the secondary for the Steelers that make the majority of the plays on your team?
So you guys just broke the bank for a guy that rarely sees a defender in his area?

Sigh....Troy will change games...
Mostly what I am saying is that your D lets RB's get to the secondary...calm down....

I'm just giving you a hard time. Troy is a good player. Just don't know if he's worth $1 Million more per season than Ed Reed...


I think Troy is a rare talent at his position and offers a lot of things that Reed doesn't. Not to detract from Reed by any means, the man is a beast at what he does.. but I think Troy's pricetag is justified.

I'm sure there are several otehr teams willing to pay that much, if not more for Troy if they had the chance to. I'm glad he's staying.

kywcat
07-24-2007, 10:38 AM
I am not against him getting paid the money but in an organization not known for paying high dollars I am curious what players are coming up for new deals and how they will be handled. You can bet that the pull of the money will be of more importance than history of the team.

SteelTorch
07-24-2007, 11:07 AM
While I'm happy about seeing my favorite player get re-signed, I'm still shocked they paid him that much. [:O] He's an outstanding safety no doubt, (albeit not Ed Reed level), but I'm surprised nevertheless that they shelled out so much money for a safety. Then again, he is a game changer, and he's got many more years left in him than Faneca. So it all evens out. Considering his injuries are all healed up and he's got a year of experience more under the gun, I fully expect we'll later be glad we paid so much to keep him. [;)]

Jom112
07-24-2007, 11:18 AM
I think Troy is a rare talent at his position and offers a lot of things that Reed doesn't. Not to detract from Reed by any means, the man is a beast at what he does.. but I think Troy's pricetag is justified.

I'm sure there are several otehr teams willing to pay that much, if not more for Troy if they had the chance to. I'm glad he's staying.

There is definitely an argument to be made, but I would rather have Ed Reed. Reed is better at defending passes whereas Troy is better at getting to the QB.
The factor that puts Reed over the edge when comparing him to Troy is game changing ability. In six seasons Reed has 750 return yards off INT's whereas Troy has 151 yards in five seasons. When Reed gets his hands on the ball he's thinking about scoring and usually sets up his team in great field position.
All the other categories are close but when you compare that one it's no contest. Reed is more of a game changer than Troy is, IMHO. But I would love to have either on my team even at their current price tag...

Long Time Bengal Fan
07-24-2007, 11:23 AM
Troy is a top player and was paid what the team thought he was worth. I feel all of the players are over paid at all positions.
I know of the pounding their bodies take but I still can't justify paying anyone this kind of money when the world is full of so much need.

sloppy lombardi slaps
07-24-2007, 11:48 AM
Madieu better then Troy...lol...Here come the stats....I see it ....But let me say...your safety, who no one knows may put up good stats, but Troy changes games...and remember alot more teams form the offense make it into your secondary...





Remember that first game played last year? remember when you were in the red-zone and Ben led Heath Miller way too much? Who went up and got that ball? Mad Mad Madieu Williams....Red-Zone INTs are as game changing as anything a defensive player can do.

ikestops85
07-24-2007, 01:05 PM
While I'm happy about seeing my favorite player get re-signed, I'm still shocked they paid him that much. [:O] He's an outstanding safety no doubt, (albeit not Ed Reed level), but I'm surprised nevertheless that they shelled out so much money for a safety. Then again, he is a game changer, and he's got many more years left in him than Faneca. So it all evens out. Considering his injuries are all healed up and he's got a year of experience more under the gun, I fully expect we'll later be glad we paid so much to keep him. [;)]

I'm surprised that the Steelers signed Troy to a contract that big. The Post-Gazette has the terms as follows:
"The five-year, $33 million contract with the $15,375,000 in signing and roster bonuses he received from the Steelers yesterday makes him the highest-paid player in team history and the highest-paid safety in the NFL.
His signing bonus of $10,975,000 is the largest the Steelers have ever paid, topping the $9 million they gave Hines Ward two years ago."
To me it looks like $6.6 million a year.

Jom112
07-24-2007, 01:14 PM
While I'm happy about seeing my favorite player get re-signed, I'm still shocked they paid him that much. [:O] He's an outstanding safety no doubt, (albeit not Ed Reed level), but I'm surprised nevertheless that they shelled out so much money for a safety. Then again, he is a game changer, and he's got many more years left in him than Faneca. So it all evens out. Considering his injuries are all healed up and he's got a year of experience more under the gun, I fully expect we'll later be glad we paid so much to keep him. [;)]

I'm surprised that the Steelers signed Troy to a contract that big. The Post-Gazette has the terms as follows:
"The five-year, $33 million contract with the $15,375,000 in signing and roster bonuses he received from the Steelers yesterday makes him the highest-paid player in team history and the highest-paid safety in the NFL.
His signing bonus of $10,975,000 is the largest the Steelers have ever paid, topping the $9 million they gave Hines Ward two years ago."
To me it looks like $6.6 million a year.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/PIT/10266147
"Polamalu, an All-Pro safety in 2005, already was due to make $1,088,000 in salary and $1,722,000 in guaranteed bonuses this season, for a total contract of $2,810,000 and a salary cap value of $1,632,000. His extension kicks in next season and will pay him a guaranteed $15,375,000 during the 2008-2011 seasons in guaranteed money and roster bonuses, which are automatically paid as long as he is on the team."
So it's really a FOUR year 30.19 Million dollar deal. So he will be making $7.5 Mil per season.
The issue is that some media websites want to include the one year left on Troy's current contract. So the 1 year at $2.8 Mil this season is throwing off the numbers.
So if he signed the contract after this season, everyone would be saying he's making $7.5 Mil per season. Since he signed it before training camp, some sites are saying he's making $6.6 Mil per season....

Rayne
07-24-2007, 06:03 PM
Polumalu gets new contract worth $33 million!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2946532&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines
He is now officially overpaid!


Hahahaha!

And I LOVE IT!

hmmmmm....this is great!!! I remember ALL the steeler fans on here when Carson signed his contract and you all saying how it was way too much and it will affect the rest of the team in being able to sign other players, and how it was a bad contract because he could get hurt......now the shoe seems to be on the other foot and you just paid a player who got hurt the richest contract for all safeties in NFL history.......now i get to enjoy watching you all talk out of both sides of your mouth defending this one.
the floor is officially yours steeler fans....lets hear you all back track on the contracts now [:D]

Um, ok...sure.....I'm a Steeler fan and I never said that Carson was overpaid when he signed his contract. I don't think I was even here when he signed his current deal.
There is something you're forgetting though....How many probowls had Carson been to when he signed his deal? (0)
How many has Troy been to when he signed his? (3)
Not to mention the guy played a VERY big role in us getting our Lombardi a couple years ago.
Signing a player to a high contract that's been to 3 probowls and was a major piece of us winning a championship was a smart move. Signing an unproven QB to a high dollar contract can easily backfire on you.
We've all seen our fair share of rookie QB's that were great in college, wanted big money before playing a down, and flopped. Most recently, Ryan Leaf - and I think, Eli Manning. Who's to say Carson wouldn't have ended up like one of them.
It's the difference between paying big money to a guy that's proven what he can do, and paying a guy strictly for his potential, with nothing to back it up but what he did on a lower level.

Rayne
07-24-2007, 06:05 PM
Madieu better then Troy...lol...Here come the stats....I see it ....But let me say...your safety, who no one knows may put up good stats, but Troy changes games...and remember alot more teams form the offense make it into your secondary...





Remember that first game played last year? remember when you were in the red-zone and Ben led Heath Miller way too much? Who went up and got that ball? Mad Mad Madieu Williams....Red-Zone INTs are as game changing as anything a defensive player can do.


True enough, but you can't rely on them. It's like trying to live on a diet of candy. You're far better ahead to just play aggresive defense and lay the wood on a guy then go for the strip or the pick.
Don't forget....Dexter could have sacked Ben in the endzone for a safety in the second game if he had not gone for the strip. That 2 points cost you the game.

sloppy lombardi slaps
07-24-2007, 06:08 PM
Polumalu gets new contract worth $33 million!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2946532&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines
He is now officially overpaid!


Hahahaha!

And I LOVE IT!



Um, ok...sure.....I'm a Steeler fan and I never said that Carson was overpaid when he signed his contract. I don't think I was even here when he signed his current deal.
There is something you're forgetting though....How many probowls had Carson been to when he signed his deal? (0)
How many has Troy been to when he signed his? (3)
Not to mention the guy played a VERY big role in us getting our Lombardi a couple years ago.


Actually when carson signed his deal he was already voted into the probowl, that being the year he threw the most TDs in the league (32)

sloppy lombardi slaps
07-24-2007, 06:10 PM
Madieu better then Troy...lol...Here come the stats....I see it ....But let me say...your safety, who no one knows may put up good stats, but Troy changes games...and remember alot more teams form the offense make it into your secondary...





Remember that first game played last year? remember when you were in the red-zone and Ben led Heath Miller way too much? Who went up and got that ball? Mad Mad Madieu Williams....Red-Zone INTs are as game changing as anything a defensive player can do.


True enough, but you can't rely on them. It's like trying to live on a diet of candy. You're far better ahead to just play aggresive defense and lay the wood on a guy then go for the strip or the pick.




Ok but that wasn't what the arguement was about, stay focused. i was stating that Madieu Williams is a game changer, than i gave an example.

sloppy lombardi slaps
07-24-2007, 06:14 PM
In his 36 games in the NFL madieu has had a hand in 11 turnovers, what better definition of a game changing defensive player is there than the turnovers they cuase?

Jom112
07-24-2007, 06:59 PM
Polumalu gets new contract worth $33 million!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2946532&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines
He is now officially overpaid!


Hahahaha!

And I LOVE IT!

hmmmmm....this is great!!! I remember ALL the steeler fans on here when Carson signed his contract and you all saying how it was way too much and it will affect the rest of the team in being able to sign other players, and how it was a bad contract because he could get hurt......now the shoe seems to be on the other foot and you just paid a player who got hurt the richest contract for all safeties in NFL history.......now i get to enjoy watching you all talk out of both sides of your mouth defending this one.
the floor is officially yours steeler fans....lets hear you all back track on the contracts now [:D]

Um, ok...sure.....I'm a Steeler fan and I never said that Carson was overpaid when he signed his contract. I don't think I was even here when he signed his current deal.
There is something you're forgetting though....How many probowls had Carson been to when he signed his deal? (0)
How many has Troy been to when he signed his? (3)
Not to mention the guy played a VERY big role in us getting our Lombardi a couple years ago.
Signing a player to a high contract that's been to 3 probowls and was a major piece of us winning a championship was a smart move. Signing an unproven QB to a high dollar contract can easily backfire on you.
We've all seen our fair share of rookie QB's that were great in college, wanted big money before playing a down, and flopped. Most recently, Ryan Leaf - and I think, Eli Manning. Who's to say Carson wouldn't have ended up like one of them.
It's the difference between paying big money to a guy that's proven what he can do, and paying a guy strictly for his potential, with nothing to back it up but what he did on a lower level.

You might not have specifically mentioned that Carson was overpaid but you did mention that we invested too much money into our offensive players. Carson being the highest paid player on our offense would mean that you think we paid too much for him.
It's called inference.
As for your zero probowls comments, sloppy has already proved you wrong there. What is going to be even funnier is when that comment gets thrown in your face when Ben signs a huge contract and has zero probowl appearances...

Ill Will
07-24-2007, 09:43 PM
I think the Steeler's were playing "defense" by signing him so early, if they would have let the season play out and he would have had a year like we expect him to (yet hope he doesn't) that 7.5 million would have ballooned about a mil, mil and a half.
The Steelers front office must have read my post on how much Troy was worth and decided to sign him before he wandered on to the site and got too many big money ideas.[;)]

Joe from Florence
07-25-2007, 10:01 AM
Polumalu gets new contract worth $33 million!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2946532&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines
He is now officially overpaid!


Hahahaha!

And I LOVE IT!

hmmmmm....this is great!!! I remember ALL the steeler fans on here when Carson signed his contract and you all saying how it was way too much and it will affect the rest of the team in being able to sign other players, and how it was a bad contract because he could get hurt......now the shoe seems to be on the other foot and you just paid a player who got hurt the richest contract for all safeties in NFL history.......now i get to enjoy watching you all talk out of both sides of your mouth defending this one.
the floor is officially yours steeler fans....lets hear you all back track on the contracts now [:D]

Um, ok...sure.....I'm a Steeler fan and I never said that Carson was overpaid when he signed his contract. I don't think I was even here when he signed his current deal.
There is something you're forgetting though....How many probowls had Carson been to when he signed his deal? (0)
How many has Troy been to when he signed his? (3)

wrong, Carson was already elected to the pro bowl when he signed his new contract, but thanks for bringing that up about pro bowls....as i remember it, Carson was the MVP of last years

Steely_J
07-25-2007, 11:10 AM
I think the Steeler's were playing "defense" by signing him so early, if they would have let the season play out and he would have had a year like we expect him to (yet hope he doesn't) that 7.5 million would have ballooned about a mil, mil and a half.
The Steelers front office must have read my post on how much Troy was worth and decided to sign him before he wandered on to the site and got too many big money ideas.[;)]


Yeah! Or maybe nothing like that! [:D]

Steely_J
07-25-2007, 11:11 AM
Polumalu gets new contract worth $33 million!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2946532&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines
He is now officially overpaid!


Hahahaha!

And I LOVE IT!

hmmmmm....this is great!!! I remember ALL the steeler fans on here when Carson signed his contract and you all saying how it was way too much and it will affect the rest of the team in being able to sign other players, and how it was a bad contract because he could get hurt......now the shoe seems to be on the other foot and you just paid a player who got hurt the richest contract for all safeties in NFL history.......now i get to enjoy watching you all talk out of both sides of your mouth defending this one.
the floor is officially yours steeler fans....lets hear you all back track on the contracts now [:D]

Um, ok...sure.....I'm a Steeler fan and I never said that Carson was overpaid when he signed his contract. I don't think I was even here when he signed his current deal.
There is something you're forgetting though....How many probowls had Carson been to when he signed his deal? (0)
How many has Troy been to when he signed his? (3)

wrong, Carson was already elected to the pro bowl when he signed his new contract, but thanks for bringing that up about pro bowls....as i remember it, Carson was the MVP of last years


Wrong, no one gave a shizz about the ProBowl MVP last year. This whole statement is asinine! [:D]

sloppy lombardi slaps
07-25-2007, 11:29 AM
Polumalu gets new contract worth $33 million!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2946532&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines
He is now officially overpaid!


Hahahaha!

And I LOVE IT!

hmmmmm....this is great!!! I remember ALL the steeler fans on here when Carson signed his contract and you all saying how it was way too much and it will affect the rest of the team in being able to sign other players, and how it was a bad contract because he could get hurt......now the shoe seems to be on the other foot and you just paid a player who got hurt the richest contract for all safeties in NFL history.......now i get to enjoy watching you all talk out of both sides of your mouth defending this one.
the floor is officially yours steeler fans....lets hear you all back track on the contracts now [:D]

Um, ok...sure.....I'm a Steeler fan and I never said that Carson was overpaid when he signed his contract. I don't think I was even here when he signed his current deal.
There is something you're forgetting though....How many probowls had Carson been to when he signed his deal? (0)
How many has Troy been to when he signed his? (3)

wrong, Carson was already elected to the pro bowl when he signed his new contract, but thanks for bringing that up about pro bowls....as i remember it, Carson was the MVP of last years


Wrong, no one gave a shizz about the ProBowl MVP last year. This whole statement is asinine! [:D]




Fans may not care but to the agents, players and front office probowls are a huge deal, so it pertains to what this thread is about.

Rayne
07-25-2007, 05:23 PM
Polumalu gets new contract worth $33 million!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2946532&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines
He is now officially overpaid!


Hahahaha!

And I LOVE IT!

hmmmmm....this is great!!! I remember ALL the steeler fans on here when Carson signed his contract and you all saying how it was way too much and it will affect the rest of the team in being able to sign other players, and how it was a bad contract because he could get hurt......now the shoe seems to be on the other foot and you just paid a player who got hurt the richest contract for all safeties in NFL history.......now i get to enjoy watching you all talk out of both sides of your mouth defending this one.
the floor is officially yours steeler fans....lets hear you all back track on the contracts now [:D]

Um, ok...sure.....I'm a Steeler fan and I never said that Carson was overpaid when he signed his contract. I don't think I was even here when he signed his current deal.
There is something you're forgetting though....How many probowls had Carson been to when he signed his deal? (0)
How many has Troy been to when he signed his? (3)

wrong, Carson was already elected to the pro bowl when he signed his new contract, but thanks for bringing that up about pro bowls....as i remember it, Carson was the MVP of last years

And how many had he been too when he signed his contract?
When you sign a player that's helped you win a Lombardi, with 3 pro bowl appearances already and most of his career in front of him, it's not much of a gamble. Signing a rookie QB out of college is. Winess, Eli Manning and Ryan Leaf.
Sometimes, like with Carson and Peyton, it works out. Sometimes it doesn't.
Don't remember if Carson was the MVP of last years probowl or not, I didn't watch the game. I will, however, take your word for it. I've never known you to lie. Exagerate, yes but never lie.
Signing Troy was the right move, as was signing Carson.

Jom112
07-25-2007, 05:32 PM
And how many had he been too when he signed his contract?
When you sign a player that's helped you win a Lombardi, with 3 pro bowl appearances already and most of his career in front of him, it's not much of a gamble. Signing a rookie QB out of college is. Winess, Eli Manning and Ryan Leaf.
Sometimes, like with Carson and Peyton, it works out. Sometimes it doesn't.
Don't remember if Carson was the MVP of last years probowl or not, I didn't watch the game. I will, however, take your word for it. I've never known you to lie. Exagerate, yes but never lie.
Signing Troy was the right move, as was signing Carson.

Ghost, you keep mis-reading the same thing (And not for the first time I might add).
The current contract that Carson is under was not offered to him straight out of college, as you're making it out to be. He was under his rookie contract, then after three seasons and one pro bowl, the bengals offered him the huge extension that we're talking about.
Starting to make sense yet?

BamBamRubble
07-25-2007, 09:00 PM
Why in the world would you pay a Safety that kind of money when you're in desperate need of a QB?

sloppy lombardi slaps
07-25-2007, 09:21 PM
When you sign a player that's helped you win a Lombardi, with 3 pro bowl appearances already and most of his career in front of him, it's not much of a gamble. Signing a rookie QB out of college is. Winess, Eli Manning and Ryan Leaf.
Sometimes, like with Carson and Peyton, it works out. Sometimes it doesn't.
Don't remember if Carson was the MVP of last years probowl or not, I didn't watch the game. I will, however, take your word for it. I've never known you to lie. Exagerate, yes but never lie.
Signing Troy was the right move, as was signing Carson.


i dont understand, carson wasn't a rookie, and he was leading the league in TDs when he signed his deal in december, why are you comparing him to eli manning and ryan leaf? RYAN LEAF?