Goodbye Brat...or at least I hope.

[Shady]

I'm rather sure that they could survive at the Senior Bowl without the luxury of Bratkowski's offensive prowess.:nervous: I believe the same degree of ineptitude could be achieved by anyone on the offensive staff! With Hue Jackson being named the new mayor of Al Davis Land , I wouldn't be surprised if Brat gets a 5 year contract extension!:smirk:

A Marvin / Brat -coached team in the Senior Bowl has never scored more than 20 points, and they're winless in Senior Bowls.

Sound familiar?

[bengals_and_patriots]

Brat is the MANNNN. In Brat we trust.

[Shady]

Brat is the MANNNN. In Brat we trust.

Southie?

[bludgeon]

Don't you think that you would want your new OC in house to evaluate talent at the Senior Bowl???

[bludgeon]

oh, and I was half-expecting the reason to be "Because Brat swallows"

[Shady]

oh, and I was half-expecting the reason to be "Because Brat swallows"

:lol: I'm sure that has as much to do with it as anything.

[bludgeon]

:lol: I'm sure that has as much to do with it as anything.

You're probably right.

[The Bengal Thing]

We are coachng the senior bowl so it is important we keep the coaching staff intact until it is over.

I predict Brat will be fired after the senior bowl is finished :thumbsup:

i see many people complaining that brat hasn't been fired so i thought i would explain why.

This is false...

It has been said MANY times that teams have let their OC go up to a week before the Senior Bowl

[bludgeon]

This is false...

It has been said MANY times that teams have let their OC go up to a week before the Senior Bowl

exactly. You're dead on here.

In reference to the thread:

http://images1.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/4637698/move-along-nothing-to-see-here.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Foul-Bachelor-Frog

[fullrock]

When are some people going to realize that Brat is going nowhere. If assistants are going to get fired, they get fired in a few days following the end of the regular season. It's status quo in Bengaldom, but hey lokk at the bright side.....Mikey boy says our scouting department (can you call one scout a department?) ranks 11th in the NFL on draft picks playing time because that certainly is the barometer you use when evaluating the effectiveness of your scouting department. It certainly would't be that you have not won a playoff game in 20 years. What a joke.

[Joe from Florence]

We are coachng the senior bowl so it is important we keep the coaching staff intact until it is over.

I predict Brat will be fired after the senior bowl is finished :thumbsup:

i see many people complaining that brat hasn't been fired so i thought i would explain why.
that is a horrible excuse to keep brat here. The Senior Bowl would be the perfect opportunity and reason to get rid of Brat and let the new OC do his thing. Especially if the new OC was already in house such as Zampese, use the Senior Bowl as the perfect interview tool for the OC.

The Senior Bowl is not only a poor excuse, but actually makes it even less likely he will be gone because it is the perfect opportunity to audition a new OC.

[OMGwow]

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Bres let go early Jan when he was fired? Didn't they coach the senior bowl that year also? My money is on Brat being here next season.

[sixxfan26]

I may be lying to myself on this, but I clearly remember from Mike Brown's mumblings during the press conference ---- he said something about them making changes and decisions AT THEIR PACE... WHEN they want to do it and HOW they want to do it. So it's kinda telling me that us fans need to be patient.....what we so desperately want to happen may still be yet to come.

Good things come to those who wait, right? LOL (I hate lying to myself)

[Robbie Sharp]

It was all TO's and Chad's fault and Brat ain't going anywhere! :ninja:

[GreenDragon]

Nobody on this message forum knows whether he will be fired or not. <-------FACT

Sadly, this is true.

[jj22]

We use the seniorbowl as a scouting opp. A new coach would have been hired in order to help scout. Face it, Brat is here to stay... And if he is fired, there aren't anyone out there available anymore. We can't just request to speak with coaches in March. Most teams set their coaching staffs and will not let assistant coaches interview late in the offseason like that. They like to know who they will have. I beleive we've even denied a request to interview one of our assistants in the past because it was to late (in the offseason) and we had already set our coaching staff.

[Bonnie Bengal]

We are coachng the senior bowl so it is important we keep the coaching staff intact until it is over.

I predict Brat will be fired after the senior bowl is finished :thumbsup:

i see many people complaining that brat hasn't been fired so i thought i would explain why.

Flash back to the end of the 2008 season: "We can't make any coaching changes because we are coaching the senior bowl." Same old stuff, and Mike's buddy gets to keep his job.

[Goat Green]

Brat has 1 year left on his contract.

This reason alone is why he will be back.

[FanBoy13]

:lol:

[Goose]

oh...i guess i didn't know that, it just made sense to me and i was all like "holy ****! so that's why he hasn't been fired yet"

ML got some good players the last time they did it and the coaching staff has to be intact. Makes sense, and that should bother us because we know good decisions from this organization are rare.:eek:

[BengalUSCfan]

I agree with the point of view that the Senior Bowl is immaterial. If anything, you would want your new OC on board to evaluate talent.

With one year left on his contract, and a CBA up in the air (hence no OTA's to implement a new system), my money is on Brat for next year. How would you like to be a new OC, with no OTA's, a handful of novice receivers if Chad leaves, and possibly your veteran running back gone? Can you imagine the debacle which could ensue? Only an internal promotion to a new play caller who keeps most of the same schemes and terminology might allow Brat to be gone.

If today's USA Today article about the CBA is any indication, our 2011 season could be a mess anyway. The NFL and Players Union have not had a bargaining session since Thanksgiving and the union just sued the league regarding collusion on FA contracts.

This year's draft is going to weird as he(( because, in all likelihood, no FA transactions or trades will happen before the draft. It will be draft first, FA's later, which is the opposite of normal.

[PolarBengalFan]

Seattle went 7-9 and made it to the second round of playoffs and less than a week later fired their Offensive Co-Ordinator. What the hell are the Bengals doing? Oh wait it's the Bengals, business as usual. Sorry for the delusional moment. :mad:

[chrisc]

Brat has 1 year left on his contract.

This reason alone is why he will be back.

How do you know this? This is the reason Marvin wouldn't discuss the length of his contract so in 2 years we will all be arguing whether he is under contract or not and whether or not he can be fired.

Why Mike Brown do you have to live in Cincinnati? Why.

[Tommy Casanova 72-77]

To the original thread here, I am pretty sure Brat will be back. As the second week of our off-season is dwindling down, there still has been zero indications that he won't be here next year. I believe that the front office thinks that the best chances for this offense to get better for next year is by sticking it out trying to tweak things out. With Palmer already slated to be our QB, I would bet everything that the 'GM' is afraid that a new playbook and system would be more hurtful for Carson and guys like Simpson than helpful, especially for 2011 when there is still a possible strike that could occur until a new cba agreement is reached. So if I had give a educated guess, this is why Brat will be back.

I think they view Carson and Brat as a team that go hand and hand like Peaches & Herb. As dumb as that may sound, this is an organization who is a afraid of what MIGHT happen beacuse of the CBA and will use that as an excuse to do very little. How many teams have made turnarounds after bad seasons in the NFL.
It seems every year some team or teams go from 10+ losses to 10+ wins.........and Mike Brown is counting on that as his only hope, rather than making the actual changes needed to speed that along.
He is like an old style beat cop... "Nothing to see here folks, just keep moving along."

Also read where Brat's wife and Mike's wife have been friends since college days. You know....the type of important factors in deciding what direction your football team should go.

[HachiGo]

Coaching changes(if any) will occur after the Senior Bowl.

[o&b]

I'm really starting to worry now... if we were to fire Brat, and hire another OC, shouldn't have we done that thus far????

I can handle Marvin Lewis coming back, but keeping Brat... NO WAY!!!!!

[Storm]

Yeah another brat thread :lol:

[Slappy from New Haven]

Everyone was wondering the same thing....on the 1,000 other threads on the same topic

[Gwillednt]

I'm really starting to worry now... if we were to fire Brat, and hire another OC, shouldn't have we done that thus far????

I can handle Marvin Lewis coming back, but keeping Brat... NO WAY!!!!!

I say there, good fellow, I do believe this is a rather popular topic, and as such, perhaps it would best to discuss it there.

[Utts]

I told you so.

[Storm]

I told you so.



Thanks, can you make other predictions?

will the sun come up tomorrow?

[codyperdue95]

can somebody give me a link on where our schedule for next season is ive looked and looked but cant find anything

[Storm]

can somebody give me a link on where our schedule for next season is ive looked and looked but cant find anything


does it matter?

[The Bengal Thing]

You guys are all JERKS and HALL MONITORS!!!!! ;)

:sarcasm:

[codyperdue95]

yea it does i want to know someone with info please share with me

[bradfritz21]

If he comes back, then I can only hope that possibly Brat was horrible in '09 because Marvin forced him to be run-first (we really had no other option with the players we had) and then he felt like he had to force the ball to T.O. and Ocho this year to keep them, the fans, and Mike Brown happy.

I can dream, right?

[momadance02]

If Brat comes back then I'm done. thumbsdown

[Bonnie Bengal]

If you do, explain to me why. As far as I'm concerned, we are screwed for another year. He can't make adjustments to the other team's defense. He is consistently outcoached. His play calling is too predictable. He doesn't appear to notice tendencies that our players have that other teams key in on. As long as he is here, I don't think we have any hope.

[Bonnie Bengal]

If Brat comes back then I'm done. thumbsdown

I'm going on strike if he comes back. All of my Bengals gear will be packed up and replaced by Reds gear. I'll be watching the NFL in a general way, but no support for the Bengals until Brat is gone.

[McC]

Oh, woe is me.

[Bonnie Bengal]

Oh, woe is me.

True, that is the motto of all Bengal fans.

[Bonnie Bengal]

Oh, woe is me.

And I notice you have no argument to counter with.

[Danno]

Sure.

Let's assume brat get sick or something and is unable to maintain his duties for a period of 8-10 weeks. In that time, a sub manages to get this team to the Superbowl, but then brat comes back.

Whether he resumes his role (most likely) or not (yeah right)... he'd be an OC on a Superbowl team.

[Joe from Florence]

If you do, explain to me why. As far as I'm concerned, we are screwed for another year. He can't make adjustments to the other team's defense. He is consistently outcoached. His play calling is too predictable. He doesn't appear to notice tendencies that our players have that other teams key in on. As long as he is here, I don't think we have any hope.
it can happen. Teams often win in spite of coaching and i think it can happen, i think a team could win the SB in spite of having Brat as an OC.

2005 we won a lot (with an easy schedule) in spite of Brat.

[bengalfan74]

Maybe ! On a team with an outstanding defense

[geronomo]

Brat did coordinate the number one offense in the NFL as a Seahawk, but that was long ago. I think Brat could do it if he had probowl talent at every position, otherwise I do not think Brat is special. I do not think zampese is special either. In fact, I do not think we have any great coaches on the offensive side of the ball. In Brats defense we do draft really dumb players who cannot remember the snapcount, so possibly Brat has awfull ingredients to make Mikey Boy's rabbit stew. If that was the case then we should also fire Mikey boy.

[Goat Green]

Sure he could!

And he will!!

He will be the coach of the 2011 Super Bowl Champion Cincinnati Bengals!!

But only if YOU renew your season tickets now. :denny:

[McC]

And I notice you have no argument to counter with.

I didn't have anything to counter with in the first ten thousand Brat threads. Why would I now?
He's obviously the devil, come to earth to destroy all mankind. He is the worst human being who ever lived. His very existence is an abomination. Brat staying on here is the vilest thing in the history of humanity.

There is no more reason for a Bengal fan to live. We are all doomed. Abandon all hope, ye who enter here. See, I'm in total agreement with you.

[Ian Demagii]

Oh thank you for a strawman-Brat thread.

Come on!

It is more than just Brat, and as long as fans keep trying to drill down on Head Coach, Coordinators, Coaches and Players-it will never change.What is wrong with the Bengals is the Franchise ! Its the ownership that blows here. It is the front office that lacks direction.

Is it possible -yes-Is it possible with this franchise no, NO SUPER BOWL is possible with this FRANCHISE the way it is now. Why?????

The Franchise will not scout and develop talent-not just player talent-coaching talent must be discovered and developed as well. Let look at Brats demise historically and sensibly to see where he has obviously failed and continues to fail (these are the facts and they are undisputed.....).

Bratkowski's coaching tree come from 2 places: 1) the Coryell Offense & 2) The old Green Bay Packer offense.

Remember 2005 when Brat was a hot commodity? Remember when when The Bengals offense kept pace with Peyton Manning's Colts at the height of their reign? Remember when we could run the ****ing football?????

What happened? The front office failed in its judgement!

Why? Carson got hurt, but still through no real foresight of its own had a capable backup in John Kitna. The offense could run the football using a play called 16-power-O. (it always impresses me, the amount of total morons here who want to power run the football into the teeth of 3-4 defenses with a lead full back. (For the love of God, please go play on I-75 with that)! 16-Power-0 did to the 3-4 what the 3-4 does to many offenses, it makes some of the defense utility wasted. By Pulling Steinbach, leading with Jeremi Johnson, using the powerful kick out blocking of Reggie Kelly and the powerful drive blocking of Willie Anderson and Bobbie Williams this play terrorized 3-4 defenses. If you really want the nuts and bolts of 16-power 0 search my posts or PM and I will go through it-again.

It was management that did not correctly address the age and condition of the Offensive line! It was management that did not correctly ascertain that Jeremi Johnson loved Big Mac more than football (this is totally Marvin's fault). It was management that let Steinbach leave via free agency, and tried to replace Braham on the cheap with the weakling Ghuicuic. It was management who traded down away from Steven Jackson and picked up the brittle and fumble prone Chris Perry (this was proabably Marvin's fault). It was Marvin that did not predict Chris Henry's legal troubles, AND IT WAS BRAT'S FAULT THAT HE DID NOT ADJUST THE OFFENSE.

In the meantime Mike Shepherd (Simpson & Caldwell) and Paul Alexander (all offensive line players) were totally failing at coaching up their young players-again more culpabilty for Brat he did not adjust.

The most irritating thing is that just about anyone could leave the franchise and become successful, Lebeau went back to Pittsburg and now is going HOF as much as coordinator and superstar player. Leslie Fraiser now is running the Vikings, Hugh Jackson the Raiders, so yeah Bratkowski could leaves here and be successful because he is with a different franchise.

IT"s THE FRANCHISE THAT BLOWS!!!!

Ian

[fredtoast]

2005 we won a lot (with an easy schedule) in spite of Brat.

Yeah. he was so lucky that that 28th ranked defense carried his 6th rated offense.

[Bryan]

Yeah. he was so lucky that that 28th ranked defense carried his 6th rated offense.
:lol: I knew it was a matter of time before Fred said something

[fredtoast]

If you do, explain to me why. As far as I'm concerned, we are screwed for another year. He can't make adjustments to the other team's defense. He is consistently outcoached. His play calling is too predictable. He doesn't appear to notice tendencies that our players have that other teams key in on. As long as he is here, I don't think we have any hope.

Brat has proven over and over andover again that he can produce top ten offensive units without the top talent in the league.

Since Brat has been here the DEFENSE has been a much bigger problem than the offense. The offense has ranked higher than the defense in scoring 7 of the 10 years he has been here including 2010

Brat is not one of the elite OC's in the league, but to try and blame ALL of the Bengals problems on him is a joke.

[Bonnie Bengal]

Oh thank you for a strawman-Brat thread.

Come on!

It is more than just Brat, and as long as fans keep trying to drill down on Head Coach, Coordinators, Coaches and Players-it will never change.What is wrong with the Bengals is the Franchise ! Its the ownership that blows here. It is the front office that lacks direction.

Is it possible -yes-Is it possible with this franchise no, NO SUPER BOWL is possible with this FRANCHISE the way it is now. Why?????

The Franchise will not scout and develop talent-not just player talent-coaching talent must be discovered and developed as well. Let look at Brats demise historically and sensibly to see where he has obviously failed and continues to fail (these are the facts and they are undisputed.....).

Bratkowski's coaching tree come from 2 places: 1) the Coryell Offense & 2) The old Green Bay Packer offense.

Remember 2005 when Brat was a hot commodity? Remember when when The Bengals offense kept pace with Peyton Manning's Colts at the height of their reign? Remember when we could run the ****ing football?????

What happened? The front office failed in its judgement!

Why? Carson got hurt, but still through no real foresight of its own had a capable backup in John Kitna. The offense could run the football using a play called 16-power-O. (it always impresses me, the amount of total morons here who want to power run the football into the teeth of 3-4 defenses with a lead full back. (For the love of God, please go play on I-75 with that)! 16-Power-0 did to the 3-4 what the 3-4 does to many offenses, it makes some of the defense utility wasted. By Pulling Steinbach, leading with Jeremi Johnson, using the powerful kick out blocking of Reggie Kelly and the powerful drive blocking of Willie Anderson and Bobbie Williams this play terrorized 3-4 defenses. If you really want the nuts and bolts of 16-power 0 search my posts or PM and I will go through it-again.

It was management that did not correctly address the age and condition of the Offensive line! It was management that did not correctly ascertain that Jeremi Johnson loved Big Mac more than football (this is totally Marvin's fault). It was management that let Steinbach leave via free agency, and tried to replace Braham on the cheap with the weakling Ghuicuic. It was management who traded down away from Steven Jackson and picked up the brittle and fumble prone Chris Perry (this was proabably Marvin's fault). It was Marvin that did not predict Chris Henry's legal troubles, AND IT WAS BRAT'S FAULT THAT HE DID NOT ADJUST THE OFFENSE.

In the meantime Mike Shepherd (Simpson & Caldwell) and Paul Alexander (all offensive line players) were totally failing at coaching up their young players-again more culpabilty for Brat he did not adjust.

The most irritating thing is that just about anyone could leave the franchise and become successful, Lebeau went back to Pittsburg and now is going HOF as much as coordinator and superstar player. Leslie Fraiser now is running the Vikings, Hugh Jackson the Raiders, so yeah Bratkowski could leaves here and be successful because he is with a different franchise.

IT"s THE FRANCHISE THAT BLOWS!!!!

Ian

No need to criticize my thread. I hardly ever post new threads but I am SO BUMMED OUT by this latest middle finger we all got from Mike Brown that I had to post it. I have truly lost any hope of ever winning a championship. Brat cannot cut it in today's NFL. He is consistently outcoached.

[geronomo]

I rerally do not think a new offensive coordinator will change anything untill we start drafting better players and participate in aquiring top teir free agentws thart are non injured.

[michaelsean]

Has Brat ever been seriously interviewed for a head coach job?

[chrisc]

Oh thank you for a strawman-Brat thread.

Come on!

It is more than just Brat, and as long as fans keep trying to drill down on Head Coach, Coordinators, Coaches and Players-it will never change.What is wrong with the Bengals is the Franchise ! Its the ownership that blows here. It is the front office that lacks direction.

Is it possible -yes-Is it possible with this franchise no, NO SUPER BOWL is possible with this FRANCHISE the way it is now. Why?????

The Franchise will not scout and develop talent-not just player talent-coaching talent must be discovered and developed as well. Let look at Brats demise historically and sensibly to see where he has obviously failed and continues to fail (these are the facts and they are undisputed.....).

Bratkowski's coaching tree come from 2 places: 1) the Coryell Offense & 2) The old Green Bay Packer offense.

Remember 2005 when Brat was a hot commodity? Remember when when The Bengals offense kept pace with Peyton Manning's Colts at the height of their reign? Remember when we could run the ****ing football?????

What happened? The front office failed in its judgement!

Why? Carson got hurt, but still through no real foresight of its own had a capable backup in John Kitna. The offense could run the football using a play called 16-power-O. (it always impresses me, the amount of total morons here who want to power run the football into the teeth of 3-4 defenses with a lead full back. (For the love of God, please go play on I-75 with that)! 16-Power-0 did to the 3-4 what the 3-4 does to many offenses, it makes some of the defense utility wasted. By Pulling Steinbach, leading with Jeremi Johnson, using the powerful kick out blocking of Reggie Kelly and the powerful drive blocking of Willie Anderson and Bobbie Williams this play terrorized 3-4 defenses. If you really want the nuts and bolts of 16-power 0 search my posts or PM and I will go through it-again.

It was management that did not correctly address the age and condition of the Offensive line! It was management that did not correctly ascertain that Jeremi Johnson loved Big Mac more than football (this is totally Marvin's fault). It was management that let Steinbach leave via free agency, and tried to replace Braham on the cheap with the weakling Ghuicuic. It was management who traded down away from Steven Jackson and picked up the brittle and fumble prone Chris Perry (this was proabably Marvin's fault). It was Marvin that did not predict Chris Henry's legal troubles, AND IT WAS BRAT'S FAULT THAT HE DID NOT ADJUST THE OFFENSE.

In the meantime Mike Shepherd (Simpson & Caldwell) and Paul Alexander (all offensive line players) were totally failing at coaching up their young players-again more culpabilty for Brat he did not adjust.

The most irritating thing is that just about anyone could leave the franchise and become successful, Lebeau went back to Pittsburg and now is going HOF as much as coordinator and superstar player. Leslie Fraiser now is running the Vikings, Hugh Jackson the Raiders, so yeah Bratkowski could leaves here and be successful because he is with a different franchise.

IT"s THE FRANCHISE THAT BLOWS!!!!

Ian

Preech on Brother Ian. You are dead on. We will not see another superbowl as long as Mike is alive.

[michaelsean]

Preech on Brother Ian. You are dead on. We will not see another superbowl as long as Mike is alive.


Thanks for summarizing because there was no way I was going to attempt to read that whole thing. What's that saying about brevity and wit?

[Norm]

Brat is not one of the elite OC's in the league, but to try and blame ALL of the Bengals problems on him is a joke.

I'll agree with this. Brat is really bad. But Brat didn't throw Pick 6's, or drop critical catches, or whiff and miss tackles, etc.

[ExtraNirvana]

It's funny how people actually think that's Mike's goal.

[FanBoy13]

The offense has ranked higher than the defense in scoring 7 of the 10 years he has been here including 2010


OMG...that will certainly be the funniest thing I read all day...the offense ranked higher than the defense in 7 of the 10 years he has been here, in scoring...:lol:

Isn't that the point of the offense?

Mike Brown, are you there?

[GreenDragon]

Only on Madden.

[Who85Dey]

OMG...that will certainly be the funniest thing I read all day...the offense ranked higher than the defense in 7 of the 10 years he has been here, in scoring...:lol:

Isn't that the point of the offense?

Mike Brown, are you there?

Are you mentally slow or something?? Let me break it down for you, since you apparently don't have the capability to figure it out on your own. You see, an offense scores points. And people add up all the points that they score in a given time period, say a season, and divide it by the number of games played. This is the average amount of points scored by the offense each game.

They then take all the points given up by the defense in a give time period, say a season, and divide it by the number of games played. This is the average number of points given up by the defense each game.

The point he was making was that in 7 of the 10 years, the offense has scored more points, on average, each game then the defense has given up, on average, each game....

EDIT: Apparently R-E-T-A-R-D-E-D is blocked.. This board never lets anyone have any fun with their posts! HAH

[FanBoy13]

Are you mentally slow or something?? Let me break it down for you, since you apparently don't have the capability to figure it out on your own. You see, an offense scores points. And people add up all the points that they score in a given time period, say a season, and divide it by the number of games played. This is the average amount of points scored by the offense each game.

They then take all the points given up by the defense in a give time period, say a season, and divide it by the number of games played. This is the average number of points given up by the defense each game.

The point he was making was that in 7 of the 10 years, the offense has scored more points, on average, each game then the defense has given up, on average, each game....

EDIT: Apparently R-E-T-A-R-D-E-D is blocked.. This board never lets anyone have any fun with their posts! HAH

And still what is your point?

If that was the point he was trying to make, he should have stated it correctly...

It took you 4 paragraphs to do the same, with a meaningless stat that in no way shows Brat's prowess as an OC...

Who's mentally slow? That would most likely be you...:rolleyes:

Keep up the good work...

[fredtoast]

OMG...that will certainly be the funniest thing I read all day...the offense ranked higher than the defense in 7 of the 10 years he has been here, in scoring...:lol:

Isn't that the point of the offense?

Mike Brown, are you there?

So you don't evenunderstand how the NFL ranks scoring defenses?

The fewer points they give up the higher they rank.

Get it now? Our offenses have been much better than our defenses over that stretch.

[McC]

And still what is your point?

If that was the point he was trying to make, he should have stated it correctly...

It took you 4 paragraphs to do the same, with a meaningless stat that in no way shows Brat's prowess as an OC...

Who's mentally slow? That would most likely be you...:rolleyes:

Keep up the good work...

He did.

[r3stangs]

Brat has proven over and over andover again that he can produce top ten offensive units without the top talent in the league.

Since Brat has been here the DEFENSE has been a much bigger problem than the offense. The offense has ranked higher than the defense in scoring 7 of the 10 years he has been here including 2010

Brat is not one of the elite OC's in the league, but to try and blame ALL of the Bengals problems on him is a joke.

Yes, Mike, everyone understands that you think that taking a 4-12 team and changing pretty much nothing is the way to go.

I guess since ALL the Bengals problems don't fall on one single person, the best thing to do is just keep everything the same.

[TrappedinPATLand]

Oh thank you for a strawman-Brat thread.

Come on!

It is more than just Brat, and as long as fans keep trying to drill down on Head Coach, Coordinators, Coaches and Players-it will never change.What is wrong with the Bengals is the Franchise ! Its the ownership that blows here. It is the front office that lacks direction.

Is it possible -yes-Is it possible with this franchise no, NO SUPER BOWL is possible with this FRANCHISE the way it is now. Why?????

The Franchise will not scout and develop talent-not just player talent-coaching talent must be discovered and developed as well. Let look at Brats demise historically and sensibly to see where he has obviously failed and continues to fail (these are the facts and they are undisputed.....).

Bratkowski's coaching tree come from 2 places: 1) the Coryell Offense & 2) The old Green Bay Packer offense.

Remember 2005 when Brat was a hot commodity? Remember when when The Bengals offense kept pace with Peyton Manning's Colts at the height of their reign? Remember when we could run the ****ing football?????

What happened? The front office failed in its judgement!

Why? Carson got hurt, but still through no real foresight of its own had a capable backup in John Kitna. The offense could run the football using a play called 16-power-O. (it always impresses me, the amount of total morons here who want to power run the football into the teeth of 3-4 defenses with a lead full back. (For the love of God, please go play on I-75 with that)! 16-Power-0 did to the 3-4 what the 3-4 does to many offenses, it makes some of the defense utility wasted. By Pulling Steinbach, leading with Jeremi Johnson, using the powerful kick out blocking of Reggie Kelly and the powerful drive blocking of Willie Anderson and Bobbie Williams this play terrorized 3-4 defenses. If you really want the nuts and bolts of 16-power 0 search my posts or PM and I will go through it-again.

It was management that did not correctly address the age and condition of the Offensive line! It was management that did not correctly ascertain that Jeremi Johnson loved Big Mac more than football (this is totally Marvin's fault). It was management that let Steinbach leave via free agency, and tried to replace Braham on the cheap with the weakling Ghuicuic. It was management who traded down away from Steven Jackson and picked up the brittle and fumble prone Chris Perry (this was proabably Marvin's fault). It was Marvin that did not predict Chris Henry's legal troubles, AND IT WAS BRAT'S FAULT THAT HE DID NOT ADJUST THE OFFENSE.

In the meantime Mike Shepherd (Simpson & Caldwell) and Paul Alexander (all offensive line players) were totally failing at coaching up their young players-again more culpabilty for Brat he did not adjust.

The most irritating thing is that just about anyone could leave the franchise and become successful, Lebeau went back to Pittsburg and now is going HOF as much as coordinator and superstar player. Leslie Fraiser now is running the Vikings, Hugh Jackson the Raiders, so yeah Bratkowski could leaves here and be successful because he is with a different franchise.

IT"s THE FRANCHISE THAT BLOWS!!!!

Ian

You nailed that one right on the head. What a tragic truth for the fans.

[Who85Dey]

And still what is your point?

If that was the point he was trying to make, he should have stated it correctly...

It took you 4 paragraphs to do the same, with a meaningless stat that in no way shows Brat's prowess as an OC...

Who's mentally slow? That would most likely be you...:rolleyes:

Keep up the good work...

2 quick thoughts..

#1. It took me 4 paragraphs to break down what he said in the most layman terms possible because apparently, when he said it in one sentence, you weren't able to grasp what he meant. You said, and I quote, "Isn't that the point of the offense?"

No duh, Sherlock.

#2. The point of my previous post was in no way to try to defend Brat. He's a horrible OC but we're stuck with him. What can we do? Nothing. Live and let be.

And FYI, I still think that you're mentally slow. Thank you keeping me entertained during my lunch hour.

[Ryan Mc]

If Chuck Bresnahan can coordinate a Superbowl defense, albeit a losing one not a winning one (2002 with Oakland), then yes Brat can coordinate a winning Superbowl offense.

I wouldn't care if we got a new OC, I have no strong feelings in favor of Brat. But, all the rabid Brat-haters see if you can do me a favor. Watch the championship games this weekend and guess 'run' versus 'pass' on every play. Pay attention to down-and-distance and personnel grouping in the game. When you're done guessing correctly about 80% of the time ask yourself if Brat is really a whole lot more predictable than other OCs in the league. (And if you really feel like thinking deeply, ask yourself if football is really as simple as guessing 'run' versus 'pass'. I've seen plenty defenses get gashed by well-executed big plays even when they know exactly what play is coming)

[umkubas]

Carson Palmer is inefficient and lacks any creativity as the Cincinnati Bengals' quarterback.

Even though the calls of offensive co-ordinator Bratkowski are predictable and unimaginative, the person executing these calls,lacks in every respect also.

I propose we draft Jake Locker (University of Washington) with pick 4 in the 2011 National Football league draft.

The inefficient Carson Palmer can start the first ten game, winning 4.

Mr. Locker would move in on Week 11 leading us to a 3-3 record and a future victorious and efficient National Football League franchise.

Ian Demagii:

Excellany use of large fonts and use of the bold feature. Your words were very plangent.

[Who85Dey]

I propose we draft Jake Locker (University of Washington) with pick 4 in the 2011 National Football league draft.

The inefficient Carson Palmer can start the first ten game, winning 4.

Mr. Locker would move in on Week 11 leading us to a 3-3 record and a future victorious and efficient National Football League franchise.



With the 4th pick?? NO... Locker will probably still be there when we come up to pick in the 2nd round (36th pick). Not to imply that there's a possibility that we take Locker with that pick. I don't think we take a QB until AT LEAST round 4.

[Ian Demagii]

Carson Palmer is inefficient and lacks any creativity as the Cincinnati Bengals' quarterback.

Even though the calls of offensive co-ordinator Bratkowski are predictable and unimaginative, the person executing these calls,lacks in every respect also.

I propose we draft Jake Locker (University of Washington) with pick 4 in the 2011 National Football league draft.

The inefficient Carson Palmer can start the first ten game, winning 4.

Mr. Locker would move in on Week 11 leading us to a 3-3 record and a future victorious and efficient National Football League franchise.

Ian Demagii:

Excellany use of large fonts and use of the bold feature. Your words were very plangent.

unhmmm...thanks..I think...LOL-may well be my last post before the ban hammer falls on me too-I blast the franchise with regularity and impunity....they so richly deserve it....

Ian

[casca20]

Marvin said:
"If we lopped off some heads, maybe we'd get better," Lewis said. "But maybe we wouldn't."

LMAO..... Here let me try.

When you get to the fork at the end of the road. If you turn right you might get there and you might not.

How was that Marv? What a joke!

[baul prown]

Do you think Brat will be gone? This isn't a who hopes Brat will be gone. It's do you truly think he will either be here or not next next season?

[baul prown]

As much as I want him out, I think his relationship with mikey keeps him calling the plays for the next few years. Lord help us all!

[eliminate08]

Yeah, as stupid as it may be.

[Derrick]

Do you think Brat will be gone? This isn't a who hopes Brat will be gone. It's do you truly think he will either be here or not next next season?

I voted he will be here. I hope to heck I am wrong.

[ishouldbegm]

he will be here the following year too...... you know after his contract is up

[bludgeon]

Do you think Brat will be gone? This isn't a who hopes Brat will be gone. It's do you truly think he will either be here or not next next season?

Yes, if people buy him enough fatty, cholesterol-filled foods! :denny:

[bludgeon]

Marvin said:
"If we lopped off some heads, maybe we'd get better," Lewis said. "But maybe we wouldn't."

LMAO..... Here let me try.

When you get to the fork at the end of the road. If you turn right you might get there and you might not.

How was that Marv? What a joke!

I'll buy the guillotine. You bring me Brat.

[bludgeon]

Pick a team, any team!

[ibengals]

Anyone else in the AFC North. At least then we won't come last....

[Jushin Lazarus]

The Shady Acres Golden Buckeyes!:thumbsup:

[bludgeon]

Anyone else in the AFC North. At least then we won't come last....

Indeed. also, could only get 30 options for the poll, so some teams missed out.

[bludgeon]

lotta love for Pittsburgh!

[DeyWho1972]

I couldn't vote. As much as i hate the rest of our division, I'm reminded of the saying... I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

IMO, it would be even better to see him reduced to working in the CFL, or not at all.

[eliminate08]

Pick a team, any team!

Pittsburgh.

Too bad they aren't that stupid.

[bludgeon]

I couldn't vote. As much as i hate the rest of our division, I'm reminded of the saying... I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

IMO, it would be even better to see him reduced to working in the CFL, or not at all.

lol love it.

[Fan_in_Kettering]

New England. Can you imagine how badly Brat could make Bill Belichick's head implode? Brat could turn Tom Brady into Brady Quinn.

[bludgeon]

New England. Can you imagine how badly Brat could make Bill Belichick's head implode? Brat could turn Tom Brady into Brady Quinn.

Lmao so true.

[ibengals]

Lets keep him here!

[McC]

Any other team. If he leaves here, I'll never give him another thought.

[cinc4ever1]

I figured everyone was going choose Pitt.I did.

[bludgeon]

Lets keep him here!

wait...what?

[bludgeon]

Pittsburgh with a heavy lead :denny:

[bludgeon]

I figured everyone was going choose Pitt.I did.

so did I.

[bludgeon]

19 votes so far, still none for Cincinnati. Who Dey! :tiger:

[blackstripesindayton]

Pittsburgh, definitely! :thumbsup:

[GreenDragon]

I voted "No" because i have hope for this team.

[Goat Green]

Yes, if people buy him enough fatty, cholesterol-filled foods! :denny:

You might be on to something I don't think has been tried before.

The schmucks at WDR have tried everything from urinal cakes to banners to street ads.

But what if they sent tempting but unhealthy dishes to the corner office every day? There's that one pasta dish from Cheesecake Factory that is supposed to have 2800 calories, gobs of fat. Basically, a total artery clogger.

Send one dish every day to each coach and two dishes to Mike Brown in hopes that he will have seconds.

Get on it, WDR, you have your new "mission."

[bludgeon]

And Pittsburgh with a huge lead.

[GreenDragon]

I went with New England, they don't have an OC.

[bludgeon]

This isn't about who you want to replace Brat if you want Brat gone. Just figured that we might as well state, as a collective group of fans, whether we want Bob Bratkowski back for next season. I have a feeling for the general consensus, but might as well quantify it.

[Goat Green]

This isn't about who you want to replace Brat if you want Brat gone. Just figured that we might as well state, as a collective group of fans, whether we want Bob Bratkowski back for next season. I have a feeling for the general consensus, but might as well quantify it.

http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/files/2009/09/doublefacepalm.jpg

I want Brat signed to a 500 year extension. Mellow

[crazyjdawg]

Who are the two A-holes who said yes?

[Millz]

Why would anyone want him gone? I haven't heard anything negative about him.

[cinc4ever1]

Who are the two A-holes who said yes?


That's what I would like to know.My guess is Mike Brown and Bob both signed in under anounymous names.:hmm:

Another question is where is the hell no?

[GodFather07]

Is this poll necessary?

[BigCatFan]

Who are the two A-holes who said yes?

Guessing they misread the question.

[NastiNati513]

I would rather lose without him, than win a few games with him and never progress

at least then i can feel like i did last year at this time, (hopeful for the future)

We will win more games this year no matter who is OC because marvin wants to be a coach every other year and he didnt do nothing last year sooo.... its sad but is true, also the bar isnt set very high(4 wins)

[bludgeon]

Is this poll necessary?

Probably not, but wanted to give Brat's supporters (apparently there are a few) a chance to speak up without being harassed for it. Figured it would get us closer to the general consensus among all of us.

[I'll take an "L" for $5]

Is this poll a bloody joke mates??? :angry:

[busamboy]

I choose no, for me it really depends, but it seems that defenses have just figured this guy out. I wish there was some way he could stay on the team because he is really good at evaluating talent, but I do not want him to call plays any more.

I would love it if chilly was our next offensive coordinator.

[bludgeon]

That's what I would like to know.My guess is Mike Brown and Bob both signed in under anounymous names.:hmm:

Another question is where is the hell no?

Lol I considered putting "hell no" in as an option. But wanted to keep the thing as clean and respectful as possible. don't want to get any infractions going. :denny:

[bludgeon]

Why would anyone want him gone? I haven't heard anything negative about him.

Our offense has been out of the top 20 in the league for the past 3 or 4 years. Means time for a change.

[Bring Back Sam88]

What I'm not understand is why the lack of a CBA is scaring them from making changes. They have a failing OC. They want to keep that failing OC to provide continuity? Really?

I thought they only made those types of decisions in the government.

[bludgeon]

What I'm not understand is why the lack of a CBA is scaring them from making changes. They have a failing OC. They want to keep that failing OC to provide continuity? Really?

I thought they only made those types of decisions in the government.

Well maybe the government can take Mikey away from us then. :nervous:

[cinc4ever1]

What I'm not understand is why the lack of a CBA is scaring them from making changes. They have a failing OC. They want to keep that failing OC to provide continuity? Really?

I thought they only made those types of decisions in the government.


That is something that runs through my mind as well.And the only reason I can come up with,is that it is an excuse to keep his freind Bob around longer.<_<

[Ian Demagii]

Another Strawman poll-PULEEESEEEEEEEEstop the madness!

Ian

[bludgeon]

Another Strawman poll-PULEEESEEEEEEEEstop the madness!

Ian



A strawman poll is more than fitting for Brat!

http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/MyWebFilms/Drama/WizardScarCrowClose.jpg

[bludgeon]

That is something that runs through my mind as well.And the only reason I can come up with,is that it is an excuse to keep his freind Bob around longer.<_<


Mike's wife and Brat's wife are close friends. Mike's wife's voice is grating when she gets ******. Mike's got sensitive ears. Only reason Brat's still here?

[bengalwdey1]

A winning franchise like pitt. or balt. would never hire a scrub like brat...Please child !
I chose detroit!

[THEBURG]

What is the question, the top is different than the bottom, I voted yes, because it asks if he will be here next year, and I believe he will, but I don't want him back.

[Shady]

Let's hope this is not setting a precedent for us to follow.

Ravens are dumber than Bengals. (http://bal.scout.com/a.z?s=118&p=2&c=1041602&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fbal.scout.com%2f2%2f1041 602.html)

I think their OC is way worse than Brat, but they're keeping him.

[bearcatbob]

Word on the street has Bob Bratkowski retaining his position as OC when the Cincinnati Bengals take the field for the 2011 season.

The Bengals are considering adding former Vikings HC, Brad Childress to their staff as an offensive assistant, or a similar title to help restructure the Bengals offense for next season.

The title would not give Childress play calling responsibilities, as Bob Bratkowski will still remain the offensive coordinator, responsible for the week to week game plans and primary gameday play calling for Carson Palmer and company.

It is not exactly known how much input Childress will have in this role,and may never be divulged by the Bengals, even if he would be hired for this new position.

[Bryan]

Word on the street has Bob Bratkowski retaining his position as OC when the Cincinnati Bengals take the field for the 2011 season.

The Bengals are considering adding former Vikings HC, Brad Childress to their staff as an offesive assistant, or a similar title to help restructure the Bengals offense for next season.

The title would not give Childress play calling responsibilities, as Bob Bratkowski will still remain the offensive coordinator, responsible for the week to week game plans and primary gameday play calling for Carson Palmer and company.

It is not exactly known how much input Childress will have in this role,and may never be divulged by the Bengals, even if he would be hired for this new position.
:frown:

[wolfkaosaun]

Source please?

[OSUfan]

Word on the street has Bob Bratkowski retaining his position as OC when the Cincinnati Bengals take the field for the 2011 season.

The Bengals are considering adding former Vikings HC, Brad Childress to their staff as an offensive assistant, or a similar title to help restructure the Bengals offense for next season.

The title would not give Childress play calling responsibilities, as Bob Bratkowski will still remain the offensive coordinator, responsible for the week to week game plans and primary gameday play calling for Carson Palmer and company.

It is not exactly known how much input Childress will have in this role,and may never be divulged by the Bengals, even if he would be hired for this new position.

Link, Source..........anything?

[CloeHokie]

Lol, word on the street? What street?

[LebanonFan]

Lol, word on the street? What street?

Sesame street

[bludgeon]

where's your source?

[MasterElessar]

I call shenanigans on this thread.

[bearcatbob]

Source please?

WORD ON THE STREET...http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=404399985611&id=be44dabf1a07617cd0eba2cb55133354&index=ch1 (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0PDoTE8YDtNBAwAvuGJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBpZm5udGl 1BHBvcwM1BHNlYwNzcgR2dGlkAw--/SIG=1i4va96bs/EXP=1295823292/**http%3a//images.search.yahoo.com/images/view%3fback=http%253A%252F%252Fimages.search.yahoo .com%252Fsearch%252Fimages%253Fp%253Dhomeless%252B man%2526ei%253DUTF-8%2526fr%253Dyfp-t-701%26w=720%26h=576%26imgurl=upload.wikimedia.org% 252Fwikipedia%252Fen%252Fa%252Fac%252FHomeless_fil m2.jpg%26rurl=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org% 252Fwiki%252Ffile%253Ahomeless_film2.jpg%26size=67 KB%26name=Homeless_film2.j...%26p=homeless%2bman%2 6oid=8ab9859845d67c6dacf800f7f82095d4%26fr2=%26no= 5%26tt=77200%26sigr=11ka1rpph%26sigi=11p8v2ko6%26s igb=12hjl0gju%26.crumb=7hY2fD.CInG)<<<<- HIM!!!:eek:

[wolfkaosaun]

WORD ON THE STREET...http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=404399985611&id=be44dabf1a07617cd0eba2cb55133354&index=ch1 (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0PDoTE8YDtNBAwAvuGJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBpZm5udGl 1BHBvcwM1BHNlYwNzcgR2dGlkAw--/SIG=1i4va96bs/EXP=1295823292/**http%3a//images.search.yahoo.com/images/view%3fback=http%253A%252F%252Fimages.search.yahoo .com%252Fsearch%252Fimages%253Fp%253Dhomeless%252B man%2526ei%253DUTF-8%2526fr%253Dyfp-t-701%26w=720%26h=576%26imgurl=upload.wikimedia.org% 252Fwikipedia%252Fen%252Fa%252Fac%252FHomeless_fil m2.jpg%26rurl=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org% 252Fwiki%252Ffile%253Ahomeless_film2.jpg%26size=67 KB%26name=Homeless_film2.j...%26p=homeless%2bman%2 6oid=8ab9859845d67c6dacf800f7f82095d4%26fr2=%26no= 5%26tt=77200%26sigr=11ka1rpph%26sigi=11p8v2ko6%26s igb=12hjl0gju%26.crumb=7hY2fD.CInG)<<<<- HIM!!!:eek:

:denny:
I approve then

[Bengals in Toronto]

sweet Mikey Boy is a dumb ***

We dont have a guy to do the job him self so 2 heads are better than a Brakowski even if one is his own



http://500motivators.com/plog-content/thumbs/motivate/me/large/127-double-facepalm-when-one-facepalm-just-isnt-enough.jpg

[The_B2S]

this seems like an espn insider post

[MulishaNick]

Word on the street has Bob Bratkowski retaining his position as OC when the Cincinnati Bengals take the field for the 2011 season.

The Bengals are considering adding former Vikings HC, Brad Childress to their staff as an offensive assistant, or a similar title to help restructure the Bengals offense for next season.

The title would not give Childress play calling responsibilities, as Bob Bratkowski will still remain the offensive coordinator, responsible for the week to week game plans and primary gameday play calling for Carson Palmer and company.

It is not exactly known how much input Childress will have in this role,and may never be divulged by the Bengals, even if he would be hired for this new position.

http://images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org/06/1/8/0/46132622563329140.jpg

[OSUfan]

where's your source?

I am guessing it is the same source that jsr18 is using in the Marvin and Brad Childress meet thread.

[MulishaNick]

Lol, word on the street? What street?8 Mile. Eminem told him.

[Bengals in Toronto]

word on the Street Mikey Boy used the Franchise Tag on Brat because he is a hot commodity and we need to sign him long term

[jsr18]

I am guessing it is the same source that jsr18 is using in the Marvin and Brad Childress meet thread.

:tiger: ...and you'd be completely wrong!

[MulishaNick]

word on the Street Mikey Boy used the Franchise Tag on Brat because he is a hot commodity and we need to sign him long termAnd with that move, we can all finally start chanting....

SUPER BOWL! SUPER BOWL! SUPER BOWL!

[Bengalzona]

What's the word on the street, Huggy Bear?

http://www.starskyandhutchonline.com/huggy.jpg

[DeyWho1972]

Word on the street has Bob Bratkowski retaining his position as OC when the Cincinnati Bengals take the field for the 2011 season.

The Bengals are considering adding former Vikings HC, Brad Childress to their staff as an offensive assistant, or a similar title to help restructure the Bengals offense for next season.

The title would not give Childress play calling responsibilities, as Bob Bratkowski will still remain the offensive coordinator, responsible for the week to week game plans and primary gameday play calling for Carson Palmer and company.

It is not exactly known how much input Childress will have in this role,and may never be divulged by the Bengals, even if he would be hired for this new position.

still waiting on a source

[The_B2S]

this guy just writes ish. he wrote a word on the street post a few days ago saying that Childress would be the OC.

[momadance02]

this guy just writes ish. he wrote a word on the street post a few days ago saying that Childress would be the OC.

ha.

[NDfanatic]

Hmm..when I look at a street, I see turn only, school zone, even some curbside address numbers. Where's the word on the street that says Bratkowski is staying?

[Bengals in Toronto]

Hmm..when I look at a street, I see turn only, school zone, even some curbside address numbers. Where's the word on the street that says Bratkowski is staying?

I used to live off of Zimmer street last year

[The Bengal Thing]

this guy just writes ish. he wrote a word on the street post a few days ago saying that Childress would be the OC.

.....at least he stopped the constant "nuff said" crap

[THEBURG]

Lol, word on the street? What street?

Vine street, just north of the fountain.

[finso]

Reality.
Childress is already getting a salary from the Vikings.
Mikey knows this and knows Childress is desperate to be wanted.
Mikey probably offered him next to nothing for an opportunity to stay involved.
Therefore Brat will stick around and Childress will be a "consultant". Then Mikey and Marvin can claim CHANGE.
This franchise is a complete joke.

[Garet Jax]

As i posted in the other thread - he apparently accepted the job - Assistant Offensive Head Coach - not quite sure wth that is.

[Bengals in Toronto]

as soon as the CBA is resolved Brat is gone pending how late in the offseason it gets resolved

[ibengals]

as soon as the CBA is resolved Brat is gone pending how late in the offseason it gets resolved

At this point I'm hoping for a lockout so Brat can go coach a peewee team. He'll then gain some confidence and stay with that team, forever.

[bengalwdey1]

On my street thats not the word.

[Storm]

as soon as the CBA is resolved Brat is gone pending how late in the offseason it gets resolved



:lol:

[cinc4ever1]

On my street thats not the word.


I heard that bird is the word.:thumbsup:

[pat5775]

As i posted in the other thread - he apparently accepted the job - Assistant Offensive Head Coach - not quite sure wth that is.

He accepted? Where did you see this??

[cinc4ever1]

He accepted? Where did you see this??

I would like to know as well.

I can't find jack about him signing.

[Bryan]

I heard that bird is the word.:thumbsup:
Bbbbbbird Bird Bird Bird is the word. LOL

[Fan_in_Kettering]

I heard that bird is the word.:thumbsup:

I thought Grease is the word!

Anyway, if the Bengals can land Brad Childress in some capacity, it can only be good for the team. Remember in 2009 when the Bengals went into Minnesota and got destroyed by the Vikings? Brad was their head coach at the time and maybe he can teach the Bengals how to destroy other teams, not just eke out a win in the final seconds. He can only make Bob Bratkowski better.

[Bryan]

I thought Grease is the word!

Anyway, if the Bengals can land Brad Childress in some capacity, it can only be good for the team. Remember in 2009 when the Bengals went into Minnesota and got destroyed by the Vikings? Brad was their head coach at the time and maybe he can teach the Bengals how to destroy other teams, not just eke out a win in the final seconds.
You mean it's beneficial for a team to build up a nice lead on the opposing team? I thought it was common courtesy to either let them get the lead or let them stay in the game. Here I thought we were the gentlemen of the NFL.

[mlh1981]

So where will the Super Bowl parade be at next year?

[Fan_in_Kettering]

So where will the Super Bowl parade be at next year?

Not Cleveland.:thumbsup:

[bengals23]

I would like to know as well.

I can't find jack about him signing.

He must have inside sources, or is related to Childress.

[tlotharw]

If the whole Childress, Asst. OC-Whatever .is true, prepare yourself to be mired even more deeply in hell.

Dante, what ring is this?

[Fan_in_Kettering]

If the whole Childress, Asst. OC-Whatever .is true, prepare yourself to be mired even more deeply in hell.

Dante, what ring is this?

"Not a Super Bowl Ring," answered Dante.

[pat5775]

He must have inside sources, or is related to Childress.

I just hope he's right. It's not what I was hoping for, but if Brat just has to stick around (:vomit:) he sure could use all the help he can get

[Garet Jax]

He must have inside sources, or is related to Childress.

Im only relaying what I heard from some folks back home in Minnesota - as I said it isnt gospel (confirmed). Could be total crap, dunno. Have to see after the Senior Bowl.

[Shady]

If the whole Childress, Asst. OC-Whatever .is true, prepare yourself to be mired even more deeply in hell.

Dante, what ring is this?



I think Mike Brown qualifies wither for Ring 4 (greed) or Ring 9 (Treachery)

There are four concentric zones (or "rounds") of traitors [in ring 9], corresponding, in order of seriousness, to betrayal of family ties, betrayal of community ties, betrayal of guests, and betrayal of liege lords. In contrast to the popular image of Hell as fiery, the traitors are frozen in a lake of ice known as Cocytus, with each group encased in ice to progressively greater depths.

Brat belongs in the 8th ring for FRAUDS.

LINK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(Dante))

[bengals23]

Im only relaying what I heard from some folks back home in Minnesota - as I said it isnt gospel (confirmed). Could be total crap, dunno. Have to see after the Senior Bowl.

I'm just messing with you. :thumbsup: I hope it's true though? His help (with whatever the heck he's gonna do) can't hurt.

I just hope he's right. It's not what I was hoping for, but if Brat just has to stick around (:vomit:) he sure could use all the help he can get

Exactly my thoughts.

[Slappy from New Haven]

Source please?

You can go over to blitzing tigers thread on the same thing, click on his blog

He's a partner with bengals.com or something

[StamatCR]

Its pretty obvious that no one wants him here except for MB, Why can't he just do the respectable thing and step down as OC. Im sure another team would pick him up as a QB or WR coach. Just man up Brat and quit.

[ibengals]

Because he's clearly an idiot.

[MrRager]

well the guy needs a job. its not like anyone else is gonna take him as an OC.....

[LEATHER FACE]

... because he is clueless.

[This is our year]

Because he wants to get paid...

[ChrisLeeWorld]

If you were:
-the absolute worst in your profession at your job
-were able to do your job with 100% ineptness, predictability (in a job that requires some imagination), and lack of ability to move forward in any way, and could keep that job no matter how much people complain
-keep your job no matter how hugely predictable you get
-had a boss that is hugely attached to you and under no circumstances would ever get rid of you and would rather see his best employees leave than have you leave
wouldn't you stick around and collect a paycheck too?

[CTA513]

Because he wants to get paid...

:thumbsup:

[CornerBlitz]

Dude I posted the same thing about a week ago.........

[rfaulk34]

Yeah, Brat. Why can't you be like Carson, and just quit...

[momadance02]

Yeah, Brat. Why can't you be like Carson, and just quit...

Carson is trying to make change happen. Brat needs to be a garbage man.

[ralvarado]

Because he thinks he is really good, and he excuses the lack of success on poor execution by his players. He is getting a good paycheck from an owner who loves him and values HIM above the head coach, his star players (QB & RB) and his paying customers (Bengals fans). He wants vindication, a new season gives him an opportunity for just that. I'm sure Brat does not see himself as the problem.

[Lolli]

Its pretty obvious that no one wants him here except for MB, Why can't he just do the respectable thing and step down as OC. Im sure another team would pick him up as a QB or WR coach. Just man up Brat and quit.
Because he makes a lot of money and has a family.

[ExtraNirvana]

Why the hell would Brat step down?

What would make you guys think that would even be an option?

[seanman05]

Because if he stepped down he wouldn't be making any money. If he gets fired, he still gets paid for next season.

I don't blame him for not quitting why the hell would you quit.

[LegitBengal]

money.

[Storm]

Its pretty obvious that no one wants him here except for MB, Why can't he just do the respectable thing and step down as OC. Im sure another team would pick him up as a QB or WR coach. Just man up Brat and quit.


Would you quit your job if you knew you would never get a job as good?

[bludgeon]

Because Bratkowski is Mikey's property (read into it what you will).

[SunsetBengal]

Because he thinks he is really good, and he excuses the lack of success on poor execution by his players. He is getting a good paycheck from an owner who loves him and values HIM above the head coach, his star players (QB & RB) and his paying customers (Bengals fans). He wants vindication, a new season gives him an opportunity for just that. I'm sure Brat does not see himself as the problem.



I believe that you said the real answer right there, in bolded.

[Gdale Bengal]

Because he wants to get paid...

first thoughts also.

I want one of the cushiest jobs in the NFL and make millions if I could as well, especially if I don't have to worry about doing well.

[bludgeon]

I believe that you said the real answer right there, in bolded.

And I think you're right about that. :denny:

[NuclearCriminal]

Maybe , just maybe ...they wanted to avoid the awkwardness of his impending firing hanging around during this week and plan to let him go after this week.

Keep the coaching staff intact for the game .Then make the changes Marvin,Carson , and the fans are hoping for. I can not see why Marvin would have stayed if he didn't get anywhere with Mike Brown. No indoor training facility , no new coaches , no new scouts ... it doesn't seem right to me. Somethings fishy...

[skerz_crazed]

i hope you're right

[SunsetBengal]

We could only hope that some good prospects for OC get in touch with Marvin on the down low.

[WHODEYzach]

Maybe , just maybe ...they wanted to avoid the awkwardness of his impending firing hanging around during this week and plan to let him go after this week.

Keep the coaching staff intact for the game .Then make the changes Marvin,Carson , and the fans are hoping for. I can not see why Marvin would have stayed if he didn't get anywhere with Mike Brown. No indoor training facility , no new coaches , no new scouts ... it doesn't seem right to me. Somethings fishy...

Keep dreaming

[fredtoast]

Brat is not going anywhere.

If he was then Carson would have waited to see who we hire before demanding a trade.

[Abspara]

Maybe , just maybe ...they wanted to avoid the awkwardness of his impending firing hanging around during this week and plan to let him go after this week.

Keep the coaching staff intact for the game .Then make the changes Marvin,Carson , and the fans are hoping for. I can not see why Marvin would have stayed if he didn't get anywhere with Mike Brown. No indoor training facility , no new coaches , no new scouts ... it doesn't seem right to me. Somethings fishy...

Mike Brown's kept him for 9 years. Why would he fire him now? especially since he's under contract.

Mike Brown is not about to make changes to appease the fans, coaches, or players. His decisions are solely based on selfish reasons. If it doesn't benefit Mike Brown, he's not going to do it.

[berserkerone88]

Brat is not going anywhere.

If he was then Carson would have waited to see who we hire before demanding a trade.

This.
Our only hope now is an act of God.

[Benton]

Brat and Marvin will be here longer than Carson and Chad. Probably longer than Gresham and Shipley.

[Rattler]

Plausible but unfortunately doubtful

[Cin726]

I can not see why Marvin would have stayed if he didn't get anywhere with Mike Brown.
It's quite simple.

When no other HC offers came forward, Lewis realized the Bengals were the only team in the NFL that would have him. Mike Brown called his bluff, and Lewis came crawling back in the end.

I guess he found that NFL HC salary too appealing in the end.

[Slappy from New Haven]

Maybe , just maybe ...they wanted to avoid the awkwardness of his impending firing hanging around during this week and plan to let him go after this week.

Keep the coaching staff intact for the game .Then make the changes Marvin,Carson , and the fans are hoping for. I can not see why Marvin would have stayed if he didn't get anywhere with Mike Brown. No indoor training facility , no new coaches , no new scouts ... it doesn't seem right to me. Somethings fishy...

50 post rule please and while waiting to make threads perhaps read the other 10,000 comments of the same nature

[bengal_prideforlife]

Maybe , just maybe ...they wanted to avoid the awkwardness of his impending firing hanging around during this week and plan to let him go after this week.

Keep the coaching staff intact for the game .Then make the changes Marvin,Carson , and the fans are hoping for. I can not see why Marvin would have stayed if he didn't get anywhere with Mike Brown. No indoor training facility , no new coaches , no new scouts ... it doesn't seem right to me. Somethings fishy...Who the hail really cares? We will still **** as long as that idiot Brown runs this franchise!


Why can't you people get it! HEEEEE is our problem!!!! HIM alone!!!!

[Storm]

Maybe , just maybe ...they wanted to avoid the awkwardness of his impending firing hanging around during this week and plan to let him go after this week.

Keep the coaching staff intact for the game .Then make the changes Marvin,Carson , and the fans are hoping for. I can not see why Marvin would have stayed if he didn't get anywhere with Mike Brown. No indoor training facility , no new coaches , no new scouts ... it doesn't seem right to me. Somethings fishy...


How much more awkward could it be to Brat and his family at the present time? would be even worse if he was subjected to the anger the fans have towards him then fired later, if they were doing him any favor they would have fired him after the season so he could have more time to try and get another job and save him from the angry mob