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SurvivorMatt
12-03-2007, 05:27 PM
UCLA has fired football coach Karl Dorrell, 2 days after losing to rival USC and finishing 6-6 in 2007. Thoughts?
Buckeyehitman
12-03-2007, 05:38 PM
UCLA has fired football coach Karl Dorrell, 2 days after losing to rival USC and finishing 6-6 in 2007. Thoughts?

He'll get picked up by someone else. He's a good coach, UCLA just isn't very patient.
Bengal Dude
12-03-2007, 06:58 PM
He'll get picked up by someone else. He's a good coach, UCLA just isn't very patient.

Bingo. UCLA is a very fickle program. There were talks that he should get an extension after beating USC last year and then immediately he was supposed to be fired after the bowl loss. This program doesn't have any patience when it definitely needs some.
Buckeyehitman
12-03-2007, 07:01 PM
Bingo. UCLA is a very fickle program. There were talks that he should get an extension after beating USC last year and then immediately he was supposed to be fired after the bowl loss. This program doesn't have any patience when it definitely needs some.

Kind of reminds you of Nebraska with Frank Solich. Worked out well for them:nervous:
Bengal Dude
12-03-2007, 07:08 PM
Kind of reminds you of Nebraska with Frank Solich. Worked out well for them:nervous:

Next up for UCLA......Bill Calahan. :rotf:

He's definitely a guy who makes you appreciate the previous coach.
Buckeyehitman
12-03-2007, 07:12 PM
Next up for UCLA......Bill Calahan. :rotf:

He's definitely a guy who makes you appreciate the previous coach.

I've heard they want someone like Pete Carroll. Look for them to try to sway a fired NFL HC to become their new Head Coach. Unfortunately, those don't always work out.
WhoDey_DbO
12-03-2007, 09:11 PM
Possible replacements include Mike Leach from Texas Tech and Norm Chow.
Bengal Dude
12-03-2007, 09:25 PM
They're also looking at Chris Peterson from Boise State.
Ethanga62890
12-05-2007, 10:41 AM
Yeah everyone is going to flock to a team that was ranked in the top 15 a year ago and they fired a coach after he lost very key players and still managed 6-6. There's a such thing as rebuilding years unless you are a top flight program.
Buckeyehitman
12-05-2007, 10:49 AM
Yeah everyone is going to flock to a team that was ranked in the top 15 a year ago and they fired a coach after he lost very key players and still managed 6-6. There's a such thing as rebuilding years unless you are a top flight program.

See, and that's the problem with programs like UCLA, Nebraska and Notre Dame. They had past success, and they still believe themselves to be an elite program, when they're really not. They could be, but it isn't going to happen overnight, it's a continuous process, and you have to give your coach time.

Dorell, Solich and Willingham, were never given the proper amount of time to do anything. Their ADs wanted immediate change and when it didn't happen, they head for the next big name, or in Nebraska's case, the guy they should've hired to replace Solich in the first place.
Ethanga62890
12-05-2007, 11:01 AM
See, and that's the problem with programs like UCLA, Nebraska and Notre Dame. They had past success, and they still believe themselves to be an elite program, when they're really not. They could be, but it isn't going to happen overnight, it's a continuous process, and you have to give your coach time.

Dorell, Solich and Willingham, were never given the proper amount of time to do anything. Their ADs wanted immediate change and when it didn't happen, they head for the next big name, or in Nebraska's case, the guy they should've hired to replace Solich in the first place.

Not to mention that college footballs talent gap is being closed between elite teams and bad teams. Just relapse on this year and tell me i'm wrong. To go undefeated these past couple years is a remarkable feat.
Buckeyehitman
12-05-2007, 11:04 AM
Not to mention that college footballs talent gap is being closed between elite teams and bad teams. Just relapse on this year and tell me i'm wrong. To go undefeated these past couple years is a remarkable feat.

Agreed, and what is equally amazing is these teams don't realize you don't have to have a big name coach to have a great coach.

Seriously, I live in Ohio and I had NEVER heard of Jim Tressel before he was up for the Ohio State job.
Ethanga62890
12-05-2007, 11:05 AM
Agreed, and what is equally amazing is these teams don't realize you don't have to have a big name coach to have a great coach.
Seriously, I live in Ohio and I had NEVER heard of Jim Tressel before he was up for the Ohio State job.

Big names means more ticket sales and more time for that coach to build something. Low key coaches get hosed easily.
Buckeyehitman
12-05-2007, 11:07 AM
Big names means more ticket sales and more time for that coach to build something. Low key coaches get hosed easily.

True, but Nebraska and Notre Dame both hired big named coaches and it didn't work for Nebraska and Notre Dame is doing poorly.

The only team it worked for thusfar is USC.
Ethanga62890
12-05-2007, 11:09 AM
True, but Nebraska and Notre Dame both hired big named coaches and it didn't work for Nebraska and Notre Dame is doing poorly.

The only team it worked for thusfar is USC.

That's because they want a National Championship every single year, look at Alabama, they fired a coach after a 10-2 season and SEC west title followed by a 8-4 year and hired Nick Saban to that ridiculous contract. They are still living in the Bear Bryant days.
Buckeyehitman
12-05-2007, 11:12 AM
That's because they want a National Championship every single year, look at Alabama, they fired a coach after a 10-2 season and SEC west title followed by a 8-4 year and hired Nick Saban to that ridiculous contract. They are still living in the Bear Bryant days.

Couldn't agree more, I'm actually surprised no one has gone after Mike Shula for any coaching vacancies. He's certainly not doing anything in Miami.