Who is the most overated quarterback in football?

[TruCincyFan54]

I'm just wonderin who u all think is the most overated quarterback in the NFL, i have my opinion, but i'll let u guys say your's first.

[Alias]

Michael Vick

[chris25]

it has to be rex grossman or eli manning

[TruCincyFan54]

Michael Vick


Eh, i really dont think he is overated, i think that people expected him to be this unstoppable quarterback and they didn't realize that Vick is not your typical quarterback in terms of passing. He has the arm we all know that, but his accuracy is something left to be desired, he couldn't hit a 350 lb. woman 10 yards in front of him in the stomach if his life depended on it.

[Alias]

Yeah, fair enough. I guess most people have come to realize he isnt as great of a QB as he was expected to be. Amazing scrambler though.

Ben Roethlisberger (spelling? i did that without looking lol) would be my second choice.

[TruCincyFan54]

Yeah, fair enough. I guess most people have come to realize he isnt as great of a QB as he was expected to be. Amazing scrambler though.

Ben Roethlisberger (spelling? i did that without looking lol) would be my second choice.


Actually, Big Ben is my first choice. He reminds me of a new age Trent Dilfer. He manages the game, hands the ball off to prevent screwing up. The media made him look like a star when he was a rookie, but we all saw last year that when he had to actually throw the football that he struggles, i dont think that he has ever won a game when he threw the ball for over 300 yards. I could be wrong, but thats my guess.

[Alias]

You've got me... I wasnt even aware that he's thrown for 300 in a game anyway lol

[TruCincyFan54]

it has to be rex grossman or eli manning

Yes, I agree that Eli Manning is a little overated, but most of that comes from the expectations that we had of him considering that he was the brother of the great Peyton Manning and the son of Archie. He still has alot of room to mature. And as for Rexxy, he just flat out ***** so he is not overated, he is a terrible game manager and makes decisions in crunch time that only hurt his team, plus he has kind of a dead arm, his passes look like wounded ducks, as do Big Ben's.

[msheets]

1. Worthlisberger (Just crap. That Offense was setup for a good running game and a garbage QB. Just because you were the starting QB for a Super Bowl team dosen't mean you led them there. The runnging game and Defense led them there)
2. McNair (has been. He needs a great TE to be productive)
3. Trent Green (see above)
4. Favre (current Favre that is, he is hurting the team. They need to move on with Rodgers or someone else.)
5. Vick (great scambling QB with a rocket arm. To bad the rocket arm is a scud with no guidance system)

I would say Rex Grossman but nobody thinks that high of him so how can he be over-rated.

[Joe from Florence]

Hands down Mike Vick
he is the biggest bust in years....and the media still is brainwahsed on his abilities as a qb....he is horrible

[Turk88]

I agree with Joe here! Vick is a bust. Now Eli is still young and can be a solid QB in this league.
As for the Favre, I don't think anyone can say he is overrated! They guy has proven that he is a tough QB that can get the job done. He may be past his prime but not overrated!!!
I hate to say this but I don't think Big Ben is overrated either, except by the Steelers fans. He does exactaly what they ask of him (which isn't much) It isn't his fault the system doesn't call for a great QB, just an extremely average one.
Now that I have just stood up for a Squeelers Qb I need to go vomit, please excuse me!

[TylerxSnipes]

troy smith
mike vick
daunte culpepper
ben roethlisburger
steve mcnair
theres plenty..overall a agree with vick.

[jamiethelanky]

Vince Young

[TylerxSnipes]

vince young is good..but not madden good.

[mrcrockj]

I agree with most of you, except for Vick, no real reasoning.
My top overrated QB's are of course Worthlessburger, and then I'll throw in a different one nobody has mentioned yet - Philip Rivers. LT makes him look good. He had a couple decent games, but with everyone looking run, who wouldn't be able to pass, and many of his passes are swings or screens to LT.

[Danno]

If this were last year, i'd say what joe said. Vick, hands down.

However, I think the tables are finally turning on the vick thing. People bash his ability a lot more now. It wasn't 5 minutes after they traded schaub that people were saying "they just traded away the best qb on the team".


with that in mind. I think now its probably a toss up between Big Ben and Eli Manning. Big Ben still considered some amazing QB, when is just an efficient game manager. Thats fine, and he good at it. But I don't like the misconception / over rating. Eli just still has that, "Oh he is a manning; this will be the year!" crap going on.

[zdeane343]

it cant be eli manning/ phillip rivers/ big ben/ etc because nobody thinks them as great amazing QBs. in order to be overrated you have to be thought of as good.
my pick is vick and farve. farve just throws the ball and hopes somebody catches it, goes to mississippi during the offseason and cries about the team. vick has shown flashes of greatness but is inconsistent and an injury waiting to happen.

[biggie]

Vick. I dont think that he has developed into the player that many thought he would be. He cant complete passes w/ any kind of accuracy and players drafted that high are expected to be cornerstones of a franchise. IMO, he has been anything but. Yes he can run, yes he is a human highlight film but in no way would I want him as the QB of my team.

[Jom112]

Eli Manning. Without Tiki he'll do even worse this season. If that's possible.
Tony Romo. Now I think there are worse QB's in the NFL than him, but none that get more praise than he does...

[Buckeyehitman]

it cant be eli manning/ phillip rivers/ big ben/ etc because nobody thinks them as great amazing QBs. in order to be overrated you have to be thought of as good.

Have you ever watched sportcenter? They talk about Manning like he was better than Peyton coming out of college. They talk about Roethisberger like he's Dan Marino. As for Rivers, they're acting like he's going to be the next Tom Brady/Joe Montana, because of his 4th quarter numbers.
As for my list...here's what I've got, in random order.
1) Michael Vick (He hasn't shown me anything as far as throwing the ball, leading his team or being a respected leader and face of that organization. He can run, BIG DEAL, so can LT, and no one has him as a starting QB, and he'd be a better leader than Vick).
2) Donovan McNabb (ok, so he's a decent Qb, but everytime he's went down, he's had another QB come in to that system and do well enough to get them to the playoffs)
3) Ben Roethlisberger (everyone's acting like he's the best thing out there, I just don't see it. He was drafted into a great situation, and he has produced as much as a journeyman would have. Realistically, the only reason anyone sees him as great is because he's brought stability to a position that had Maddox and Stewart as your last two starters, and the superbowl, but that as many have said could've been and realistically has little to do with him, and more to do with the immense talent around him, he's not the next Marino, he's the next Brad Johnson....or Dilfer)
4) Tony Romo (hasn't shown me anything yet. He had 6 games that were good and the rest was garbage. Despite that, he's getting the Tom Brady treatment, show me something kid)
5) Daunte Culpepper (realistically he's done nothing without Randy Moss, he's a decent QB, but not really great).

Incidentally, I couldn't put a rookie on this list, however if I were going to put one, I'd put
JaMarcus Russell (he had ONE great game, and he gets picked first overall. It makes me wonder if anyone BUT Oakland had the first pick, would he have been selected that high? We know Al Davis loves his freaks, and that's likely why he was chosen so high.)

[Rayne]

I agree with most of you, except for Vick, no real reasoning.
My top overrated QB's are of course Worthlessburger, and then I'll throw in a different one nobody has mentioned yet - Philip Rivers. LT makes him look good. He had a couple decent games, but with everyone looking run, who wouldn't be able to pass, and many of his passes are swings or screens to LT.

Dude..he went 15-1 his rookie year, a record second only to the undefeated Dolphins. He went 11-5 his SB year and had big games on the road in the playoffs. A lot of other QB's would have been rattled having to win in Cincy, then in Indy, then in Denver - but his QB ratings were over 100 in each game.

[ThePekoSquad]

troy smith
mike vick
daunte culpepper
ben roethlisburger
steve mcnair
theres plenty..overall a agree with vick.

Troy Smith? How is he overrated? He has not even played a down and got drafted in the 5th round!? That's overrated!?
Ben Roethlisburger has had 1 bad year and that was the accident year, I hate Pittsburgh but I do not understand the bashing of him, 15-1 his ROOKIE year, and then the next year he won the Superbowl.
Overrated?
Steve McNair, well obviously something had to work considering the offense was the same in 05 as it was in 06, who won the Division in 2006? Baltimore.
Now here is my list (most are overrated back-ups)
Kyle Boller
-His final year in Baltimore and people are saying he is starter material. Really? If he was starter material... wouldn't he still be the starting QB?
Aaron Rodgers
-He is very overhyped as the next coming for Green Bay. I do not see that.
Tavarious Jackson
-Minnisota is sold on him, if they were not, Brady Quinn would be a Viking.
Michael Vick
- He is a running back people, he is not a QB. If he was a QB he would be a superbowl champion hands down. He is a GREAT running QB, but he can not throw the ball at all.
Matt Schuab
- Huge Contract for playing what 2 games? thats bad. He was a back-up now he is going to be on his back 8 times a game.
Jake Delhomme
-One year wonder.
Eli Manning
-Overrated but he is every year, but when you are a brother to the best QB in the league, and you do not win a super bowl of course you are going to be overrated.
Damon Huard
-One year wonder, I think he played last year just to get money. I think it is all hype with him.
Rex Grossman
-I rather not say.

[Bengal Dude]

I don't consider Michael Vick a QB, he is a RB and just doesn't realize it, so I don't call him a QB.
I'll say that Tony Romo, Ben Roethlisberger, and Eli Manning are the worst overrated QBs.
Romo let stardom get to him so fast and he's not that good. People need to see that he's not the second coming of Aikman. Roethlisberger gets worse and worse becasue he loses talent around him and teams are able to improve their gameplans around him. Put a little pressure on him and you've got a good shot at an INT. Manning, yes he does get compared to Peyton too much and that's not fair, but I believe that he has the starting job because of his name. Eli doesn't read coverages that well and throws some passes into coverages instead of throwing them out of bounds.

[TruCincyFan54]

troy smith
mike vick
daunte culpepper
ben roethlisburger
steve mcnair
theres plenty..overall a agree with vick.

Troy Smith? How is he overrated? He has not even played a down and got drafted in the 5th round!? That's overrated!?
Ben Roethlisburger has had 1 bad year and that was the accident year, I hate Pittsburgh but I do not understand the bashing of him, 15-1 his ROOKIE year, and then the next year he won the Superbowl.
Overrated?
Steve McNair, well obviously something had to work considering the offense was the same in 05 as it was in 06, who won the Division in 2006? Baltimore.
Now here is my list (most are overrated back-ups)
Kyle Boller
-His final year in Baltimore and people are saying he is starter material. Really? If he was starter material... wouldn't he still be the starting QB?
Aaron Rodgers
-He is very overhyped as the next coming for Green Bay. I do not see that.
Tavarious Jackson
-Minnisota is sold on him, if they were not, Brady Quinn would be a Viking.
Michael Vick
- He is a running back people, he is not a QB. If he was a QB he would be a superbowl champion hands down. He is a GREAT running QB, but he can not throw the ball at all.
Matt Schuab
- Huge Contract for playing what 2 games? thats bad. He was a back-up now he is going to be on his back 8 times a game.
Jake Delhomme
-One year wonder.
Eli Manning
-Overrated but he is every year, but when you are a brother to the best QB in the league, and you do not win a super bowl of course you are going to be overrated.
Damon Huard
-One year wonder, I think he played last year just to get money. I think it is all hype with him.
Rex Grossman
-I rather not say.


My Response is as follows:

1. Kyle Boller- was never good so he doesn't qualify as being overated. I was never impressed with him coming out of college and he showed me why when he entered the NFL.

2. Aaron Rodgers- it's too early to tell since he hasn't played much, let me see a season or two out of him and then i'll be the judge.

3. Tavaris Jackson- wow, WAY too early to tell, he is a project player and may turn into a pretty good player with time.

4. Michael Vick- Yes, he is a little overated, but alot of that is a misconception considering his abilities. He has a cannon for an arm, but can't hit a reciever to save his life.

5. Matt Schaub- I believe he is underrated. His numbers wont show how good he is since he is playing behind that crap offensive line in Houston, but he has alot of talent.

6. Jake Delhomme- yes he is VERY overrated. one year wonder is right.

7. Eli Manning- he is overrated, but alot of the criticism he recieves is unfair considering his brother is the great Peyton Manning.

8. Damon Huard- possible....

9. Rex Grossman- he's just bad so he is not overrated, i hate when chicago fans try and give him an excuse for why he performs so bad...It's because he IS bad!!!

[Wolpie]

I'll go the heretical route: Brady. Right off the bat I'll say it for you, "3x Super Bowl winner Tom Brady?!" End of the conversation for most people. But for me, I just don't think he's in the same category with guys like Peyton Manning, Brett Favre (in his prime) and probably Carson Palmer (among others) who I think define what a QB should be. Brady's a great teammate and plays very smart. But he's also had the incredible luck to play with probably the best organization today, surrounded by some clutch players, and the ball has simply bounced his way many many times (tuck rule, last second FG bailouts courtesy of Adam Vinitieri). He'll be in the Hall of Fame one Day with QB next to his name but if you ask me, he lacks elite physical talent and is overrated.

[Buckeyehitman]

I'll go the heretical route: Brady. Right off the bat I'll say it for you, "3x Super Bowl winner Tom Brady?!" End of the conversation for most people. But for me, I just don't think he's in the same category with guys like Peyton Manning, Brett Favre (in his prime) and probably Carson Palmer (among others) who I think define what a QB should be. Brady's a great teammate and plays very smart. But he's also had the incredible luck to play with probably the best organization today, surrounded by some clutch players, and the ball has simply bounced his way many many times (tuck rule, last second FG bailouts courtesy of Adam Vinitieri). He'll be in the Hall of Fame one Day with QB next to his name but if you ask me, he lacks elite physical talent and is overrated.

I can't disagree with this. I was tempted to throw him on the list too. However, his lack of WR help last year gave me some appreciation for him. I still think that if you put any halfway competent QB in that system and you might get similar results. However, unless he gets hurt, we'll never know, and he'll continue to get slurped by every sports media outlet.

[SnapCount80]

I don't consider Michael Vick a QB, he is a RB and just doesn't realize it, so I don't call him a QB.
I'll say that Tony Romo, Ben Roethlisberger, and Eli Manning are the worst overrated QBs.
Romo let stardom get to him so fast and he's not that good. People need to see that he's not the second coming of Aikman. Roethlisberger gets worse and worse becasue he loses talent around him and teams are able to improve their gameplans around him. Put a little pressure on him and you've got a good shot at an INT. Manning, yes he does get compared to Peyton too much and that's not fair, but I believe that he has the starting job because of his name. Eli doesn't read coverages that well and throws some passes into coverages instead of throwing them out of bounds.

My thoughts exactly.

[34inXXIII]

I still think that if you put any halfway competent QB in that system and you might get similar results.

You could argue the same thing about the multiple Super Bowl winning teams from San Francisco & Denver, too. You could even make an similar argument about the Colts with all the offensive talent Manning is surrounded with. That's part of what makes sports debate so great....the "what if" factor.

[Wolpie]

I still think that if you put any halfway competent QB in that system and you might get similar results.

You could argue the same thing about the multiple Super Bowl winning teams from San Francisco & Denver, too. You could even make an similar argument about the Colts with all the offensive talent Manning is surrounded with. That's part of what makes sports debate so great....the "what if" factor.
Well, you can argue anything -- but how many NFL teams wouldn't be better with Peyton Manning at QB?

[34inXXIII]

Well, you can argue anything -- but how many NFL teams wouldn't be better with Peyton Manning at QB?
I would have to say all of them....except the Browns. After all, he's only Peyton Manning, not Jesus Christ.

[Wolpie]

Well, you can argue anything -- but how many NFL teams wouldn't be better with Peyton Manning at QB?
I would have to say all of them....except the Browns. After all, he's only Peyton Manning, not Jesus Christ.
This is stupid. But here it is anyways, to back up my previous statement:
List of teams I think Manning would start for: Bills, Dolphins, Jets, Ravens, Browns, Steelers, Texans, Colts (obviously), Jags, Broncos, Chiefs, Raiders, Cowboys, Giants, Eagles, Redskins, Bears, Lions, Vikings, Panthers, Bucs, Rams, 49ers, and maybe Seahawks.
Probably not: the Pats, Bengals, Titans, Chargers, Packers, Falcons, Saints, Cardinals
So that's 24 of 32 NFL teams that I think would trip over themselves to get a QB of Manning's talent starting on their team (over their current starter). A lot of people don't like him, but it's tough to deny his resume. (For the record I'm not some huge Peyton Manning fan -- I just think he's one of the best QBs and deserves props as such.)
Peyton Manning's NFL records (from Wikipedia)
Seasons with 4,000+ yards: 7, 1999–2004, 2006
Consecutive seasons with 4,000+ yards: 6, from 1999–2004
Consecutive seasons with 25+ TD passes: 9, from 1998-2006 (current)
Games with perfect passer rating: 4 (includes 1 playoff game; most perfect games of any QB since passer rating was created by the NFL in 1973)
Manning has started his every NFL game, (currently 144 games), the longest career-opening streak for a QB. He is still behind Brett Favre's consecutive-starts streak record.
TDs per game, highest for QB
Yds per game, highest for QB
Points per game, highest for QB
Only quarterback to make every start of his career since being drafted.
Set NFL record for most completions in a single post-season (97) during the 2006/2007 post-season.
A few more misc stats (also courtesy of Wikipedia):
92-52 record as a starter
35.2 passes attempted per interception
94.4 quarterback rating (2nd all-time)
7 Pro Bowl appearances
Yeah, that guy's pretty good. If you like...six-five, 230-pound quarterbacks with a...laser rocket arm... [;)]
EDIT** I just re-read your comment and I think I misunderstood when I wrote the above reply. I understood you to be saying that the Browns would be the only team he could start for. Now I realize that you meant they're the only team where it wouldn't matter because they **** so bad. Funny post, thanks. Of course, now that I've explained it all longhand, it loses all humor. My bad.

[cinc4ever1]

I would have to say that Tony Romo is overrated he really didn't deserve the probowl not to mention he is talked about to much for a player that is a backup QB at best.

[34inXXIII]

EDIT** I just re-read your comment and I think I misunderstood when I wrote the above reply. I understood you to be saying that the Browns would be the only team he could start for. Now I realize that you meant they're the only team where it wouldn't matter because they **** so bad. Funny post, thanks. Of course, now that I've explained it all longhand, it loses all humor. My bad.

LOL....thanks for the clarification. I was really scratching my head at your post for a while because I was still being criticized despite pro-Manning statements. [:D] An honest mistake, though. No harm done.

However, while those 8 teams you listed might not want Manning over the QB they've got (though I'd even argue differently on every one of those teams except the Patriots and Bengals), your initial question was regarding how many other teams would be better with Manning. I'll stick by my initial comment and say all of them.

[Ali]

I'll go the heretical route: Brady. Right off the bat I'll say it for you, "3x Super Bowl winner Tom Brady?!" End of the conversation for most people. But for me, I just don't think he's in the same category with guys like Peyton Manning, Brett Favre (in his prime) and probably Carson Palmer (among others) who I think define what a QB should be. Brady's a great teammate and plays very smart. But he's also had the incredible luck to play with probably the best organization today, surrounded by some clutch players, and the ball has simply bounced his way many many times (tuck rule, last second FG bailouts courtesy of Adam Vinitieri). He'll be in the Hall of Fame one Day with QB next to his name but if you ask me, he lacks elite physical talent and is overrated.


I'll have to agree, but I'll say it like I do every time. He's a wonderful QB, his rating is always one of the best on a team th,at prior to this upcoming season, left much to be desired at WR.

However, the media puts him out to be better than Peyton. Before this year, every single commentator bought into the idea that Tom Brady was the absolute best because his team kept winning Super Bowls. However, it was not Tom Brady that didn't let Indy score on 4 tries from the 1 yard line. It wasn't Tom Brady who intercepts Peyton Manning and made it look as easy as putting one foot in front of the other.

Tom Brady, a good QB? Oh yeah. Then again, Drew Brees gives me a lot of reason to believe he's just as good, physically, as Tom Brady.

[Redlegs]

Michael Vick


Eh, i really dont think he is overated, i think that people expected him to be this unstoppable quarterback and they didn't realize that Vick is not your typical quarterback in terms of passing.
Thus the reason he's the most overrated QB in the NFL.

[Redlegs]

I'll go the heretical route: Brady. Right off the bat I'll say it for you, "3x Super Bowl winner Tom Brady?!" End of the conversation for most people. But for me, I just don't think he's in the same category with guys like Peyton Manning, Brett Favre (in his prime) and probably Carson Palmer (among others) who I think define what a QB should be. Brady's a great teammate and plays very smart. But he's also had the incredible luck to play with probably the best organization today, surrounded by some clutch players, and the ball has simply bounced his way many many times (tuck rule, last second FG bailouts courtesy of Adam Vinitieri). He'll be in the Hall of Fame one Day with QB next to his name but if you ask me, he lacks elite physical talent and is overrated.


I'll have to agree, but I'll say it like I do every time. He's a wonderful QB, his rating is always one of the best on a team th,at prior to this upcoming season, left much to be desired at WR.

However, the media puts him out to be better than Peyton. Before this year, every single commentator bought into the idea that Tom Brady was the absolute best because his team kept winning Super Bowls. However, it was not Tom Brady that didn't let Indy score on 4 tries from the 1 yard line. It wasn't Tom Brady who intercepts Peyton Manning and made it look as easy as putting one foot in front of the other.

Tom Brady, a good QB? Oh yeah. Then again, Drew Brees gives me a lot of reason to believe he's just as good, physically, as Tom Brady.

I could not disagree with you more. Tom Brady is the best QB in the NFL, IMO. Throw out all the "just as good physically" stuff. It matters not. Joe Montana could never win a QB Challenge contest, but he's arguably the best QB in the history of the game. Playing the position is more than talent. It's a mindset. I think we're seeing the current day Joe Montana and when it's all said and done, he'll be mentioned in the same breath with the all-time greats.

[thesquirrel87]

big ben. dude is terrible.

[USMC/Ret.]

I know Brady Quinn hasn't played a snap in the NFL but i would say he is highly overated. I mean he has been good EXECPT when he is in the big games. They sure made a big who ha ha about him before the draft and as far as he fell i'd say alot of other teams weren't sold on him as much as the media was. I am just wondering if he would of fell to the second round if not for the Browns giving up next years draft choices. Maybe i'm wrong but i for one am not sold on him and see Charlie Frye as the Stains quarterback.

[WhoDey5150]

I totally agree with Tony Romo. He did not deserve to make the Pro Bowland talked about to much. Mike Vick is another one. He can run and getout of trouble but can't throw the ball.

[bonafide1498]

Eli Manning, Just cuz your brother is good doesnt mean you are, and also Jay Cutler. Hes not really proven much to me. Also, Tony Romo, the guys played 8 games in the NFL and all the illegal immigrant cowboys fans in Texas voted him into the pro bowl. The guys not that great of a QB.

[yorkshirebengal]

tony romo...enough said

[Jackshanks]

troy smith
mike vick
daunte culpepper
ben roethlisburger
steve mcnair
theres plenty..overall a agree with vick.

Troy Smith? I don't think so....all I know is the ratbirds got a steal on drafting him in the fifth. If you really want overrated look no further than Brady Quinn.

[Jackshanks]

I'll go the heretical route: Brady. Right off the bat I'll say it for you, "3x Super Bowl winner Tom Brady?!" End of the conversation for most people. But for me, I just don't think he's in the same category with guys like Peyton Manning, Brett Favre (in his prime) and probably Carson Palmer (among others) who I think define what a QB should be. Brady's a great teammate and plays very smart. But he's also had the incredible luck to play with probably the best organization today, surrounded by some clutch players, and the ball has simply bounced his way many many times (tuck rule, last second FG bailouts courtesy of Adam Vinitieri). He'll be in the Hall of Fame one Day with QB next to his name but if you ask me, he lacks elite physical talent and is overrated.


I'll have to agree, but I'll say it like I do every time. He's a wonderful QB, his rating is always one of the best on a team th,at prior to this upcoming season, left much to be desired at WR.

However, the media puts him out to be better than Peyton. Before this year, every single commentator bought into the idea that Tom Brady was the absolute best because his team kept winning Super Bowls. However, it was not Tom Brady that didn't let Indy score on 4 tries from the 1 yard line. It wasn't Tom Brady who intercepts Peyton Manning and made it look as easy as putting one foot in front of the other.

Tom Brady, a good QB? Oh yeah. Then again, Drew Brees gives me a lot of reason to believe he's just as good, physically, as Tom Brady.

I could not disagree with you more. Tom Brady is the best QB in the NFL, IMO. Throw out all the "just as good physically" stuff. It matters not. Joe Montana could never win a QB Challenge contest, but he's arguably the best QB in the history of the game. Playing the position is more than talent. It's a mindset. I think we're seeing the current day Joe Montana and when it's all said and done, he'll be mentioned in the same breath with the all-time greats.
Ok I take real issue with this...Tom Brady is not in the same breath as Joe!!! Joes 15 year average QB rating is better than Tom Brady all time best. IMO he and he alone is the most overrated QB in the NFL he has won some championships and that is why he is known as so great. And I am so sick of the argument that his recievers are not any good....that is ridiculous there is a reason that the all time greats had some "big name" recievers to throw to....they made them that way!!! Tom is an average QB on the best coached team and best organization in football this is it....you put any good system player on that team who can understand an offense and they will put up QB ratings in the 80's...which is just average!!! Tom Brady is not in the same breath as Peyton or Carson....he has some good intangibles I will give you that and the guy has shown he can win (who couldnt on that team) but Peyton and Carson both are heads above him....my second choice would have to be Drew Brees....I actually like him as a player but to put him in the top 3 in the league is maybe putting him a little two high....maybe top 6 but not top 3!!!! And for the record though it may not sound like it I actually do think Tom is a good QB but my God the Joe Montana comparison is EXACTLY why I say he is overrated.....dear Lord Joe is a legend and Tom is.....well....overrated!!!


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I agree with both sides of the argument. I think Brady gets a lot of Montana comparisons because they were/are both cool in the clutch, neither has that strong an arm, although I'd give the strong arm contest to Brady, accuracy to Joe. But they are undoubtly both winners. I think thats were the comparisons come from....the media.
Growing up as a kid certain names struck fear into teams when it came to QB's: Marino, Montana, Elway. I guess alot hasn't changed except the names: Palmer, Manning, Brady.
Most people would agree that the three QB's named are the top three in the NFL. Maybe not in that order...but still the top three.
So is Brady overrated, or does the media just over-hype him? I say over-hyped. Because when I watch Brady play on Sundays I see a damn good QB.
For my money, Eli Manning is by far the most overrated QB in the league.

[wilson]

Michael Vick...the NFL's poster boy. Sure he has a strong arm, but I've seen games where he couldn't hit the ocean with a beach ball. I also think Romo was way overrated early last year before he started having problems.

[carolina boy]

Romo had some good mobility comeing out of the gate, and a couple of good games, but fell appart at the last few. No body knows for sure which way this penny will fall yet. Vick is your typocal running QB. The greatest at it though. Leftwych never impressed me either. He might be out the door anyway. And Big Ben??? That was the Bus driveing that gravey train. That and a killer defense. He gets way to much credit for their success Bettis was simply running out of time and the rest followed. I don't see how anyone can say Brady though. It took that guy multiple championships for anyone to remember his name. And in a very short time he won them.

[oasiswr]

I agree with most of you, except for Vick, no real reasoning.
My top overrated QB's are of course Worthlessburger, and then I'll throw in a different one nobody has mentioned yet - Philip Rivers. LT makes him look good. He had a couple decent games, but with everyone looking run, who wouldn't be able to pass, and many of his passes are swings or screens to LT.

Dude..he went 15-1 his rookie year, a record second only to the undefeated Dolphins. He went 11-5 his SB year and had big games on the road in the playoffs. A lot of other QB's would have been rattled having to win in Cincy, then in Indy, then in Denver - but his QB ratings were over 100 in each game.

Ok---- Benny is average when he has to throw for 523 attempts without 600 rushing attempts.And don't know where you going with this Undefeated Dolphin deals because their passing was like 21 st in the league out of what 26 teams. So where are you going with that when the 1972 Dolphins was known for scoring defense and 2900 yard run game?

[oasiswr]

I'll go the heretical route: Brady. Right off the bat I'll say it for you, "3x Super Bowl winner Tom Brady?!" End of the conversation for most people. But for me, I just don't think he's in the same category with guys like Peyton Manning, Brett Favre (in his prime) and probably Carson Palmer (among others) who I think define what a QB should be. Brady's a great teammate and plays very smart. But he's also had the incredible luck to play with probably the best organization today, surrounded by some clutch players, and the ball has simply bounced his way many many times (tuck rule, last second FG bailouts courtesy of Adam Vinitieri). He'll be in the Hall of Fame one Day with QB next to his name but if you ask me, he lacks elite physical talent and is overrated.


I'll have to agree, but I'll say it like I do every time. He's a wonderful QB, his rating is always one of the best on a team th,at prior to this upcoming season, left much to be desired at WR.

However, the media puts him out to be better than Peyton. Before this year, every single commentator bought into the idea that Tom Brady was the absolute best because his team kept winning Super Bowls. However, it was not Tom Brady that didn't let Indy score on 4 tries from the 1 yard line. It wasn't Tom Brady who intercepts Peyton Manning and made it look as easy as putting one foot in front of the other.

Tom Brady, a good QB? Oh yeah. Then again, Drew Brees gives me a lot of reason to believe he's just as good, physically, as Tom Brady.

I could not disagree with you more. Tom Brady is the best QB in the NFL, IMO. Throw out all the "just as good physically" stuff. It matters not. Joe Montana could never win a QB Challenge contest, but he's arguably the best QB in the history of the game. Playing the position is more than talent. It's a mindset. I think we're seeing the current day Joe Montana and when it's all said and done, he'll be mentioned in the same breath with the all-time greats.
Ok I take real issue with this...Tom Brady is not in the same breath as Joe!!! Joes 15 year average QB rating is better than Tom Brady all time best. IMO he and he alone is the most overrated QB in the NFL he has won some championships and that is why he is known as so great. And I am so sick of the argument that his recievers are not any good....that is ridiculous there is a reason that the all time greats had some "big name" recievers to throw to....they made them that way!!! Tom is an average QB on the best coached team and best organization in football this is it....you put any good system player on that team who can understand an offense and they will put up QB ratings in the 80's...which is just average!!! Tom Brady is not in the same breath as Peyton or Carson....he has some good intangibles I will give you that and the guy has shown he can win (who couldnt on that team) but Peyton and Carson both are heads above him....my second choice would have to be Drew Brees....I actually like him as a player but to put him in the top 3 in the league is maybe putting him a little two high....maybe top 6 but not top 3!!!! And for the record though it may not sound like it I actually do think Tom is a good QB but my God the Joe Montana comparison is EXACTLY why I say he is overrated.....dear Lord Joe is a legend and Tom is.....well....overrated!!!



Not true, fact of the matter I like Montana as a person more than I do that smug arse Brady, but facts fact he is toasting Montana. Both are averaging 61.9(Brady)- 63.2 (Montana), winning major comebacks games,mobile to win at all costs,Lucky,time management ball hogs. However one has passed for way over 4000 yards in one season (Brady) (2005 passed for 4110 yards injured most of the season), 21000 yards in six years (Brady) compared to Montana's(40,551 yards) 15 years. Now it's one thing to get beat by a classy guy (Joe Montana) and another to get beat by smug arse (Brady); and I do prefer see a class act guy win than the smug arse. If you don't believe me you can look at the stats yourself because I don't see much of a difference in stats or gameplay.

By the way where do you get the idea Montana didn't have just much talant on that Niner team as the Patriots do now? ( Rice, Dwight Clark, (miracle td pass against Dallas)Multi-purpose runningback Roger Craig) However something The NINER's always did have in most cases a top ten defense on both passing and rushing. For the most I'm glad not to hear from that San Fran team and hope it stays dead for awhile because it was annoying hearing about them going possible superbowl bound year after year 1981-1998.To tell you the truth I just don't know how that Niners team managed to stay so stacked on both sides of the ball top ten offenses and top defenses without breaking the budget. I mean year after year they was at least in the top ten points allowed and scored; now that's totally unheard of.

[johnson85chad=bengals]

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just kidding......there is a lot of overrated QB's in the nfl. i think romo is overrated. he cant do god under pressure. but he is a good qb. but people think to much of him. he souldnt of been in the probowl.

[johnson85chad=bengals]

Vince Young isnt overrated But i i still think Romo is cuz he cant do good under pressure.

[Shere Khan]

troy smith
mike vick
daunte culpepper
ben roethlisburger
steve mcnair
theres plenty..overall a agree with vick.


Troy Smith has yet to take a snap in the NFL and you're calling him overrated?

Damn, dawg, that's kinda foul.