Kirk Herbstreit on Dre Kirtpatrick

[eric.mcgee]

On Colin Cowherd's radio show this morning, Herbstreit said that Bengals fans should be concerned with picking Dre Kirtpatrick. He said that Alabama HC Nick Saban had to keep him in line quite a bit and there are some character concerns with him.

My take on it is that Zimmer will do the same and he'll be a very good player for us.

I didn't watch a lot of his college games, but when he was asked about his lack of interceptions, he immediately came out and said QB's did not throw the ball his way normally because of good coverage.

[XenoMorph]

On Colin Cowherd's radio show this morning, Herbstreit said that Bengals fans should be concerned with picking Dre Kirtpatrick. He said that Alabama HC Nick Saban had to keep him in line quite a bit and there are some character concerns with him.

My take on it is that Zimmer will do the same and he'll be a very good player for us.

I didn't watch a lot of his college games, but when he was asked about his lack of interceptions, he immediately came out and said QB's did not throw the ball his way normally because of good coverage.

Best Thing about the Pick is he has a lot of good veterans to learn from this offseason.

And doesnt have to be a #1 CB from day 1... the talent is there see if we can develop it.

[Benton]

I'm not as worried about character concerns as I might have been a month ago. He's not like a lot of first round picks– he's coming into camp without his spot handed to him. He's going to have to earn it. He's going to compete with several guys who– while I may not be fans of all of them– are guys who've seen it before and know they have to bust their butts to beat out a rookie or this could be their last shot.

[schneiderman99]

Cowherd usually likes SEC guys he hates Dre Kirkpatrick. He said that he celebrates a lot and tries to jump routes to much. It just seemed like whether we drafted Jenkins or Kirkpatrick we would still be getting people saying that's the typical Bengals always drafting the player with character issues.

[tedies]

I think he has big bust potential, but only time will tell

[Sher Khan]

Well really, it wouldn't have mattered who we drafted and we've yet to hear from all the haters in the peanut gallery.

Brandon Meriweather, Skins SS was busted for a DUI yesterday and it made like the back page under Local News in the Washington Post.

If it'd been a Bengal CNN would have run a Special Report with legal analysis.

[spurs of football]

If Dre becomes a bust at CB, we may find that he can be an allpro at safety.

[redwhodey]

i wonder how durable he will hold up in the nfl at 186 lbs

[Stewee28]

Cowherd usually likes SEC guys he hates Dre Kirkpatrick. He said that he celebrates a lot and tries to jump routes to much. It just seemed like whether we drafted Jenkins or Kirkpatrick we would still be getting people saying that's the typical Bengals always drafting the player with character issues.

I could give a rats *** what Colin Cowherd said! Every single prospect has their flaws and whether you like it or not, every single person can be considered a bust untill they prove themselves on the field!

No one can deny the fact that Dre has the serious potential to be a shut down corner! Its just a matter of putting it all together and getting it done and who better to motivate someone then Zim and the veterans!

"Tries to ump routes too much" sounds like someone who tries to make plays! He "tried to jump routes too much" bc he had the best secondary in college football there to back him up (MARK BARRON). I have absolutely no problem with someone trying to make plays! Id rather be aggressive and make plays then conservative and allow plays to develop! Granted, if you try and fail, the offense can have a big play!

I hated the pick last night but the more and more I think about it, I am beginning to become a big Kirk fan!

Go get em Kirk! Prove everyone wrong!

[Steeler Eater]

Kirkpatrick will be fine.

If you are looking for a guy that is going to have insane ball skills, then this is not him, but he can lay-out a receiver and blanket him on the next play. The reason he barely had any picks the past two years is because he was respected and they wouldn't throw it when the receiver is essentially wearing a DB like a snuggie.

I hated this pick last night, but when everyone realizes he has Top 10 potential and would be considered the Morris Claiborne of next year if he would have stayed another year, I think they will shut-up.

[eliminate08]

Best Thing about the Pick is he has a lot of good veterans to learn from this offseason.

And doesnt have to be a #1 CB from day 1... the talent is there see if we can develop it.

Agreed. Kirkpatrick does have a lot of talent to work with and i believe that is why we
took him. We didn't need a corner that could start from day one, we needed one to
develop and he is a very good one for that.

[Steeler Eater]

i wonder how durable he will hold up in the nfl at 186 lbs

Leon Hall - 195
Asante Samuel - 185
JJo - 191
Champ Bailey - 192
Cortland Finnegan - 188
Carlos Rogers - 192
Morris Claiborne - 188

I think he will be fine.

[Millz]

Agreed. Kirkpatrick does have a lot of talent to work with and i believe that is why we
took him. We didn't need a corner that could start from day one, we needed one to
develop and he is a very good one for that.


How I feel too. If it was Gilmore that dropped to us instead, there would still be fans peeo'd that we took him. It didn't matter which corner we took basically, since Gilmore, Kirkpatrick, and J.Jenkins all had their haters on here.

[eliminate08]

How I feel too. If it was Gilmore that dropped to us instead, there would still be fans peeo'd that we took him. It didn't matter which corner we took basically, since Gilmore, Kirkpatrick, and J.Jenkins all had their haters on here.

There were questions with all of them no question.

The closer i got to the draft the more i didn't want Gilmore though. I listened to a lot of
South Carolina fans and lots of them said he was way overrated. That he was good in
bump coverage but got lost on double moves.

I thought Gilmore was taken way high IMHO. I like our pick better if he stays away from
the pot.

[XenoMorph]

Agreed. Kirkpatrick does have a lot of talent to work with and i believe that is why we
took him. We didn't need a corner that could start from day one, we needed one to
develop and he is a very good one for that.

You Draft for the Future not for today.

[Steeler Eater]

Agreed. Kirkpatrick does have a lot of talent to work with and i believe that is why we
took him. We didn't need a corner that could start from day one, we needed one to
develop and he is a very good one for that.

I have no problem with throwing Kirkpatrick out there Day 1, he held Rueben Randle to 5 catches and 32 yards in 2 games this year.

[Magikod]

I'm happy with both of our picks.

[eliminate08]

I have no problem with throwing Kirkpatrick out there Day 1, he held Rueben Randle to 5 catches and 32 yards in 2 games this year.

It wouldn't surprise me if he beat out Clements, not one bit.

Clements just isn't that good in coverage, but he can do everything else. That is why i
wouldn't be against moving him to SS if Mays or Miles aren't up to par. His skillset seems
perfect for SS.

[Steeler Eater]

It wouldn't surprise me if he beat out Clements, not one bit.

Clements just isn't that good in coverage, but he can do everything else. That is why i
wouldn't be against moving him to SS if Mays or Miles aren't up to par. His skillset seems
perfect for SS.

Kirkpatrick will be draping over receivers in training camp, I can't wait until we see some AJ vs. Dre footage.

[mrcommish<2009>]

you never know who or what to believe especially from ESPN ... Charlie Casserly from NFL network said that Kirkpatrick was a great pick and the Bengals wont regret it . so who knows ?

[Stewee28]

There were questions with all of them no question.

The closer i got to the draft the more i didn't want Gilmore though. I listened to a lot of
South Carolina fans and lots of them said he was way overrated. That he was good in
bump coverage but got lost on double moves.

I thought Gilmore was taken way high IMHO. I like our pick better if he stays away from
the pot.

Yea, I agree 100%! I am so happy the bills grabbed Gilmore! I have heard gilmore is way faster (he had a 4.4 and Kirk had a 4.5) had longer arms (gilmore 31 kirk 30 5/8) and was bigger (gilmore 190 kirk 186)!

The way I see it, Kirk played on the better team with better coaching!

I like Kirk better then Gilmore!!

[bodabengal]

How good of a Tackler is Dre.....seeing tape on him, he looks amazing

[Go Cards]

It wouldn't surprise me if he beat out Clements, not one bit.

Clements just isn't that good in coverage, but he can do everything else. That is why i
wouldn't be against moving him to SS if Mays or Miles aren't up to par. His skillset seems
perfect for SS.


Agree 100%.
May get ridiculed on this, but think it would be a good move to play Clements at SS this season.

[PhxBENGALfanatic]

Cowherd usually likes SEC guys he hates Dre Kirkpatrick. He said that he celebrates a lot and tries to jump routes to much. It just seemed like whether we drafted Jenkins or Kirkpatrick we would still be getting people saying that's the typical Bengals always drafting the player with character issues.

He also said he would grade the Kirkpatrick pick high if it was made by the Steelers or New England. What a ********!

[Stewy]

He also said he would grade the Kirkpatrick pick high if it was made by the Steelers or New England. What a ********!

He just hates the Bengals. Always has. Always will.

[ezaybengal]

We are all over looking the best asset of Dre's game. His ability to tackle. His ability to come up and run support when needed and his ability to force fumbles. His cover skills might not be up there with Claiborne, although pretty close, but his tackling in far and away better than any corner in this draft. Dre is physical for being so skinny. Think a taller Antione Winfield.

[PhxBENGALfanatic]

He just hates the Bengals. Always has. Always will.

I agree so BENGALS fans should not listen to this hack slack jaw **** weasel.

[psychdoctor]

What are the "character" issues with Kirkpatrick? I mean really? He was hanging around a dude with pot. He was not charged but now he is guilty via association? The problem with our new beloved Bengal is he did not do well in the interview process because the kid is from the south, shy, and doesn't have outgoing personality. he is an introvert sort of like Green and he is branded as a character issue? Really?


The only issue Kirkpatrick has on the field of play is he does not have recovery ability. This means as long as the play remains in front of him, he is among the leagues best. He man handles receivers but if they get by him, then he will need safety help, and I currently do not trust Mays or Nelson but maybe they will improve. Kirkpatrick did not have many throws his way he is so dominating. He is as tough against the run as Clements for sure.

[eliminate08]

Kirkpatrick will be draping over receivers in training camp, I can't wait until we see some AJ vs. Dre footage.

Awesome. I am really liking the look of our secondary and our O-line already this year.

Could be a great year guys.

I said before that as long as we get a running game going and are able to protect Dalton
our Defense will be fresher and overall just better. Adding guys like this and another pass
rusher could take our D to the top.

[OchoCincos]

Meh. Time will tell.

[Magikod]

What are the "character" issues with Kirkpatrick? I mean really? He was hanging around a dude with pot. He was not charged but now he is guilty via association? The problem with our new beloved Bengal is he did not do well in the interview process because the kid is from the south, shy, and doesn't have outgoing personality. he is an introvert sort of like Green and he is branded as a character issue? Really?


The only issue Kirkpatrick has on the field of play is he does not have recovery ability. This means as long as the play remains in front of him, he is among the leagues best. He man handles receivers but if they get by him, then he will need safety help, and I currently do not trust Mays or Nelson but maybe they will improve. Kirkpatrick did not have many throws his way he is so dominating. He is as tough against the run as Clements for sure.

Agreed, I think he will be a solid CB for years to come. Lets just get him hanging around the right guys and no stoners. :lol:

[J24]

Cowturd also said that the Bengals would be terrible last season.?

[psychdoctor]

Agreed, I think he will be a solid CB for years to come. Lets just get him hanging around the right guys and no stoners. :lol:
Or at least the "smart" stoners. :tongue:

I am not convinced Kirkpatrick is a stoner. I think he has social issues in dealing with people.

[Magikod]

Cowturd also said that the Bengals would be terrible last season.?

He's just jealous the Bengals have a chance to beat the Steelers this year.

[eliminate08]

What are the "character" issues with Kirkpatrick? I mean really? He was hanging around a dude with pot. He was not charged but now he is guilty via association? The problem with our new beloved Bengal is he did not do well in the interview process because the kid is from the south, shy, and doesn't have outgoing personality. he is an introvert sort of like Green and he is branded as a character issue? Really?


The only issue Kirkpatrick has on the field of play is he does not have recovery ability. This means as long as the play remains in front of him, he is among the leagues best. He man handles receivers but if they get by him, then he will need safety help, and I currently do not trust Mays or Nelson but maybe they will improve. Kirkpatrick did not have many throws his way he is so dominating. He is as tough against the run as Clements for sure.

I didn't know all of this, so thanks.

When i watched highlights of Barron i saw him make up for Dre at times no doubt and this
was the main reason i was not high on Dre pre-draft. But he has long arms, good instincts
and tackles great. Coached up he could really be special.

[Magikod]

Or at least the "smart" stoners. :tongue:

I am not convinced Kirkpatrick is a stoner. I think he has social issues in dealing with people.

Oh trust me, I'm not bashing marijuana in anyway, but until the laws are changed if your a athlete in any pro sport you need to just enjoy alcohol until you retire. I hate to say it but its true.

[psychdoctor]

Oh trust me, I'm not bashing marijuana in anyway, but until the laws are changed if your a athlete in any pro sport you need to just enjoy alcohol until you retire. I hate to say it but its true.
I think he may have been a casual user and tried it but just to fit in. I agree. If you are a pro athlete, you get paid, but you pay in terms of sacrifice of vices and such. Or you won't last long doing both.

[psychdoctor]

I didn't know all of this, so thanks.

When i watched highlights of Barron i saw him make up for Dre at times no doubt and this
was the main reason i was not high on Dre pre-draft. But he has long arms, good instincts
and tackles great. Coached up he could really be special.
Some talent evaluators had Claiborne 1a. and Kirkpatrick 1b. before the Gilmore hype happened and Kirkpatrick slow 40 time at combine.

[psychdoctor]

Some more information about Dre:

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=89448&draftyear=2013&genpos=CB

04/27/12 - 2012 NFL DRAFT: PICK-BY-PICK ANALYSIS: 17. Cincinnati Bengals (from Oakland): CB Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama -- The Bengals' collection of cornerbacks is only average, and Kirkpatrick's size and long arms could make him a left cornerback starter immediately despite questions about his deep speed and lean frame. - Jeff Reynolds, The Sports Xchange

04/26/12 - ROB RANG'S TOP 50 PLAYERS OF THE 2012 NFL DRAFT: 15. 'Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama*: Kirkpatrick answered concerns about his speed at the Combine (4.51) but the greater test came in the interview rooms with scouts. Some NFL decision-makers were less than impressed with Kirkpatrick's answers, which could cause the lanky cornerback to slip a bit on draft day. - Rob Rang, NFLDraftScout.com

04/13/12 - For all the numbers that can swirl around an NFL prospect before the annual draft, there is one that concerns some in the league about Alabama cornerback Dre Kirkpatrick. That number is zero. As in none, which is the number of interceptions Kirkpatrick, a second-team All-Southeastern Conference defensive back, had last season. It comes to light because Kirkpatrick is on the Broncos' short list of possible selections with the 25th pick of the first round later this month. At 6-foot-1½ and 186 pounds, Kirkpatrick is the kind of big cornerback who routinely sees his stock rise on draft weekend. There isn't a defensive coordinator in the NFL who ever feels like he has enough quality cover players, especially ones who are over 6 feet tall, to play on the outside. Kirkpatrick is well-schooled in both man and zone coverage techniques, having played in Nick Saban's defense. He's a quality tackler and has played in big games against the nation's most athletic receivers. There is plenty to like on the football front. But there is also that zero. "The ball really didn't float my way that much — that's what happened and that's what I've told everyone who's asked — and (quarterbacks) were pretty accurate when they were going to throw that way," Kirkpatrick said. In recent weeks, he has defused at least some concerns that teams have about an arrest for marijuana possession earlier this year. He obtained a signed affidavit from the former Alabama player he was with when arrested that the marijuana wasn't Kirkpatrick's and that Kirkpatrick was unaware that marijuana had been purchased. - Jeff Legwold, The Denver Post

[psychdoctor]

Lets compare the top 3 Cbs:

Morris Claiborne*, CB, LSU
Height: 5-11. Weight: 188.
40 Time: 4.47. 10-Yd Split: 1.60.
Vertical: 34.5. Broad: 9-10.
Arm: 33 1/4.


Stephon Gilmore*, CB, South Carolina
Height: 6-0. Weight: 190.
40 Time: 4.44. 10-Yd Split: 1.50.
Bench: 15.
Vertical: 36. Broad: 10-3.
Arm: 31.

Dre Kirkpatrick*, CB, Alabama
Height: 6-2. Weight: 186.
40 Time: 4.46. 10-Yd Split: 1.53.
Vertical: 35. Broad: 10-0.
Arm: 30 5/8.

Dre had a faster pro day than Claiborne, about the same weight and is taller. he had a quicker 10-split, longer Broad jump. But shorter arms. Also Claiborne scored a 4 on the Wonderlic. A.... 4! The knock on Gilmore is his lack of instincts. The best talent in Cb without a doubt is troubled but talented Jenkins fro N. Alabama.

[bradfritz21]

And people didn't want Jenkins, even though he pees in a cup weekly in front of an Army Sergeant :rolleyes:

I'm just praying that we always get a good pass rush or have safety help over the top because I don't like him covering the deep ball and I think we could be screwed if he has to.

[68Firebird]

Lets compare the top 3 Cbs:

Morris Claiborne*, CB, LSU
Height: 5-11. Weight: 188.
40 Time: 4.47. 10-Yd Split: 1.60.
Vertical: 34.5. Broad: 9-10.
Arm: 33 1/4.


Stephon Gilmore*, CB, South Carolina
Height: 6-0. Weight: 190.
40 Time: 4.44. 10-Yd Split: 1.50.
Bench: 15.
Vertical: 36. Broad: 10-3.
Arm: 31.

Dre Kirkpatrick*, CB, Alabama
Height: 6-2. Weight: 186.
40 Time: 4.46. 10-Yd Split: 1.53.
Vertical: 35. Broad: 10-0.
Arm: 30 5/8.

Dre had a faster pro day than Claiborne, about the same weight and is taller. he had a quicker 10-split, longer Broad jump. But shorter arms. Also Claiborne scored a 4 on the Wonderlic. A.... 4! The knock on Gilmore is his lack of instincts. The best talent in Cb without a doubt is troubled but talented Jenkins fro N. Alabama.

My issue with the whole thing is that the CB class this season is horrible so why take one just to take one? These guys wouldn't be 1st rounders (maybe Claiborne) in most other draft years so why take one high at all? Because they are HOPING to coach him up, not because he's good enough to be picked 17th. Drafting for need and AGAINST scheme (sorry to the cheerleaders, but he's a zone corner & in no way a man corner) is a bad bad bad move. If they took this kid or the Jenkins kid in the 2nd I would be ok with it, but a first? Not good value. We'll see!

[Derrick]

Agreed. Kirkpatrick does have a lot of talent to work with and i believe that is why we
took him. We didn't need a corner that could start from day one, we needed one to
develop and he is a very good one for that.

And...The Dengals have some great coaches on D.

[psychdoctor]

And people didn't want Jenkins, even though he pees in a cup weekly in front of an Army Sergeant :rolleyes:

I'm just praying that we always get a good pass rush or have safety help over the top because I don't like him covering the deep ball and I think we could be screwed if he has to.
They may still get Jenkins at 53 if there. Would not surprise me. I think Dre will need help so Mays better be getting it or you will see a lot of what happened during the playoffs last year happen again where the Defense is stout most of the game and then gives up chunks via pass. Kirkpatrick is the most physical Cb in the draft behind Dennard who would be "too" physical and draw flags. Kirkpatrick will maul WR at the line to keep players in front of him.

[Shouldamapads]

On NFL radio they liked the Bengals picks and said Dre could play Safety and thought he might with our roster as is.

Food for thought.

[tlotharw]

On NFL radio they liked the Bengals picks and said Dre could play Safety and thought he might with our roster as is.

Food for thought.

I am worrried now. Artrell Hawkins is comparing Kirkpatrick favorably to himself, as he claims that the Bengals haven't had as big a hitter in the defensive backfield since he had been there. Hawkins always seemed to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when he was on the field for the Bengals. I can do without another Hawkins, Artrell that is.

[Sher Khan]

i wonder how durable he will hold up in the nfl at 186 lbs

Ahmad Bradshaw - 190lbs.
Chris Johnson - 191lbs.
Justin Forsett - 198lbs.

Agreed, I think he will be a solid CB for years to come. Lets just get him hanging around the right guys and no stoners. :lol:

Yeah much better to put him with the drunks so he can be an alchy instead. :rolleyes:

[Columbusbengal]

... when he was asked about his lack of interceptions, he immediately came out and said QB's did not throw the ball his way normally because of good coverage.

Actually, he was really funny. He said something like, "didn't you watch the film? I was standing around eating popcorn."

The truth is that there are very few CBs and WRs who don't have at least minor off field issues. I can live with Dre's.

[WeezyBengal]

He just hates the Bengals. Always has. Always will.

No, he actually doesnt.

Colin gave the Bengals A LOT of props last year after their draft and during the season. He was high on them the entire year.

People hate on Cowherd a lot, I dont get it. Most of the time he speaks the truth. People just dont want to hear it.

[WeezyBengal]

He also said he would grade the Kirkpatrick pick high if it was made by the Steelers or New England. What a ********!

Yeah...a pick later in the round. Duh.

[Columbusbengal]

If Dre becomes a bust at CB, we may find that he can be an allpro at safety.

Several analysts have suggested this.

[Columbusbengal]

He just hates the Bengals. Always has. Always will.

He hates all small markets. He relies on viewers from big cities.

[ODRAB14]

When the Ravens took Jimmy Smith last year it was a brilliant move and one for the cornerstone.

When the Bengals take a player with FEWER character concerns than smith Captian West Coast Cowherd is on it like crazy. The fact is Kirkpatrick was once considered a Top 15 talent on the nations best team and best defense. He was the right pick at the right time. If I'm the Bengals I still draft another CB in this draft because so many of these vets are on one year contracts

[Toy Cannon]

I am worrried now. Artrell Hawkins is comparing Kirkpatrick favorably to himself, as he claims that the Bengals haven't had as big a hitter in the defensive backfield since he had been there. Hawkins always seemed to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when he was on the field for the Bengals. I can do without another Hawkins, Artrell that is.

I think Artrell learned a lot during his years with the Patriots, about how football is supposed to be played, and he is now an excellent football analyst.

[Lawless_1]

It's KIRKpatrick.

See how I did that?

[eliminate08]

When the Ravens took Jimmy Smith last year it was a brilliant move and one for the cornerstone.

When the Bengals take a player with FEWER character concerns than smith Captian West Coast Cowherd is on it like crazy. The fact is Kirkpatrick was once considered a Top 15 talent on the nations best team and best defense. He was the right pick at the right time. If I'm the Bengals I still draft another CB in this draft because so many of these vets are on one year contracts

That is a good point.

Bunch of hypocrites.:angry:

[schneiderman99]

No, he actually doesnt.

Colin gave the Bengals A LOT of props last year after their draft and during the season. He was high on them the entire year.

People hate on Cowherd a lot, I dont get it. Most of the time he speaks the truth. People just dont want to hear it.

I'm with you I don't mind Cowherd. He was giving us a lot of praise he just didn't like this pick no big deal. Fans are very sensitive if anybody says anything negative about their team they freak out. People don't like to here the truth sometimes.

[WeezyBengal]

I'm with you I don't mind Cowherd. He was giving us a lot of praise he just didn't like this pick no big deal. Fans are very sensitive if anybody says anything negative about their team they freak out. People don't like to here the truth sometimes.

Couldnt agree more.

I am skeptical of the pick but hope the dude does well.

[Slappy from New Haven]

you never know who or what to believe especially from ESPN ... Charlie Casserly from NFL network said that Kirkpatrick was a great pick and the Bengals wont regret it . so who knows ?

Casserly was a GM Herbie is a fan boy Cowturd nut hugger.

I will go with the GM

[djam]

If Herbstreit said it, most likely the opposite will happen. That dude is really, really inaccurate with a lot of his predictions.

[McC]

He just hates the Bengals. Always has. Always will.

Also, he is an utter tool. So there's that.

[Housh]

That snapback Dre got on in his draft pic is HOT are those in team shop

[bengalsfanatic85]

Anybody who listens or cares about what that pretty boy "Judas" says about our team should have their account deleted.

[WhoDeyLeisure]

Herbstreit is a little punk and the worst "analyst" I've ever seen. He's the biggest Bengal hater.

[savagehenry54]

If Dre becomes a bust at CB, we may find that he can be an allpro at safety.

I agree, he's skinny now, but he has the frame to gain weight and not lose speed, especially not so much that he couldn't play safety.

Kid was considered the second best safety coming out until Gilmore moved up the boards, hopefully, he won't act stupid once he gets money and I think he'll be fine on the field.

[savagehenry54]

Herbstreit is a little punk and the worst "analyst" I've ever seen. He's the biggest Bengal hater.

I find Herbstreit's analysis to be pretty good, but that's subjective. What is not subjective is that he's a die hard Bengals fan. So no, this is a case where I can say with absolute certainty that you're imagining things, cuz Herbie loves the Bengals.

[WhoDeyLeisure]

I find Herbstreit's analysis to be pretty good, but that's subjective. What is not subjective is that he's a die hard Bengals fan. So no, this is a case where I can say with absolute certainty that you're imagining things, cuz Herbie loves the Bengals.

If you believe that.....you're dreaming. Dude might say one thing, but everything else he says screams otherwise. Dude is all over the Steelers nuts. That's no Bengals fan.

[vulture33]

I am a Buckeye fan, but Herbstreit is an ignorant boob, he has the espin disease now, and I don't think we need to visit how effin stupid Cowherd is

[savagehenry54]

If you believe that.....you're dreaming. Dude might say one thing, but everything else he says screams otherwise. Dude is all over the Steelers nuts. That's no Bengals fan.

Sorry but you're wrong bro. On local radio here in Cbus he wasn't as worried about not showing favoritism for his teams. He loves the Bengals dude. When he had a show here in town, there was no doubt, he'd talk about them all the time and it was obvious that he's a huge Bengals fan.

[D.Boon]

I believe one of the biggest attributes that a corner needs is confidence. Dre plays with attittude and football intelligence on the field. The swagger that Herbstreit is criticizing him for is not a bad thing. It will serve him well at the position.

[berserkerone88]

Sorry but you're wrong bro. On local radio here in Cbus he wasn't as worried about not showing favoritism for his teams. He loves the Bengals dude. When he had a show here in town, there was no doubt, he'd talk about them all the time and it was obvious that he's a huge Bengals fan.

Yep he over-analyzes them just like we do.
He hides his fan-hood by being extra-critical.

He is also a huge Reds fan. Saw him at GABP once.

[UCMehayward]

I think he has big bust potential, but only time will tell

I honestly feel like he has bust potential as a CB.... I really want them to put him at safety...

[berserkerone88]

I honestly feel like he has bust potential as a CB.... I really want them to put him at safety...

Wow surprised you didnt post the same Sanu post again.

[Columbusbengal]

Fans are very sensitive if anybody says anything negative about their team they freak out. People don't like to here the truth sometimes.

Actually, until recently, Bengals fans piled on with as many negative comments about their team's actions as any national commentators.

[Columbusbengal]

I believe one of the biggest attributes that a corner needs is confidence. Dre plays with attittude and football intelligence on the field. The swagger that Herbstreit is criticizing him for is not a bad thing. It will serve him well at the position.

His swagger seems to be aimed at the opponents, which is great. With respect to the Bengals coaches and his teammates, he seemed very humble in his comments.

[Columbusbengal]

If Herbstreit said it, most likely the opposite will happen. That dude is really, really inaccurate with a lot of his predictions.

Yep, I'm never going to forgive him for announcing Les Miles as Michigan's new coach at exactly the least opportune moment. :(