FEELING A DRAFT... HUH Oo

[UCMehayward]

As usual when free agency starts March 13, they won’t be looking for big names and are most likely to focus on signing own players. The Bengals hope to have guys like kicker Mike Nugent and safety Reggie Nelson locked up before offseason workouts start April 16 at Paul Brown Stadium.

I read this on the front page artical SMH!! This is ridiculous... I hope to GOD that this isnt true and the front office realize they need to strike the iron while its HOT! You went to the playoffs... Your NOT rebuilding.. You just need a few pieces to get you further into the playoffs... For GOD sakes PLEASE atleast grab ONE big name... Just ONE!! Grab Michael Bush, Grab Grubs or Nicks... GRAB SOMEONE GOT ******** lol!

http://www.bengals.com/news/article-...5-6386b7e70bb9

[BritishBengal]

Originally Posted by UCMehayward

As usual when free agency starts March 13, they won’t be looking for big names and are most likely to focus on signing own players. The Bengals hope to have guys like kicker Mike Nugent and safety Reggie Nelson locked up before offseason workouts start April 16 at Paul Brown Stadium.

I read this on the front page artical SMH!! This is ridiculous... I hope to GOD that this isnt true and the front office realize they need to strike the iron while its HOT! You went to the playoffs... Your NOT rebuilding.. You just need a few pieces to get you further into the playoffs... For GOD sakes PLEASE atleast grab ONE big name... Just ONE!! Grab Michael Bush, Grab Grubs or Nicks... GRAB SOMEONE GOT ******** lol!

http://www.bengals.com/news/article-...5-6386b7e70bb9

To be fair this team doesn't need many big names. Get a couple of starters in the draft, then some depth, and then potentially one or two upgrades through FA. I wouldn't worry. I can still see a fairly big name CB, WR or OG being brought in.

Philly proved this year that splashing the cash can be counter productive.

[UCMehayward]

I dont want them to try and grab every big name thats out there... Im just saying grab atleast one person of importance to make a BIG impact on this team... Not just fill a hole!

[neek]

Originally Posted by UCMehayward

I dont want them to try and grab every big name thats out there... Im just saying grab atleast one person of importance to make a BIG impact on this team... Not just fill a hole!

That is saying it best. What we have right now are a bunch of hole fillers who do not need to be replaced with more hole fillers. We need people with higher skill sets and more talent.

[GreenDragon]

They really need to sign Reggie Nelson. The guy is just awesome and they traded a backup, buried on the depth chart CB for him (David Jones).

[POLLOS]

Must sign Reggie Nelson, Mike Nugent, and extend Geno Atkins for a long time. I would like to see Clements stick around.

Some guys can be cut like Simpson and Livings. Benson needs to go along with Crocker.

They need to draft or sign a WR to compliment AJ Green, a couple good, young, guards, and they need a corner and another safety.

RB would also be nice.

[bengalfan74]

I don't care how big their names are, I just hope we get an OG, SS, whatever that's still in his prime and has been a big producer !

We've shown tendencies in the past to bargain basement shop, this trend needs to end.

Having said that teams are built thru the draft !

[JoePong]

This is just Hobson talking...

I was impressed with the free agents we went after last year. We went after Robert Gallery who narrowed his choices to us and Seattle and picked Seattle because of his relationship with their line coach.

We signed deuce lutui who was the cardinals best lineman in 2010. Turned out he ate himself out of a contract during the lockout.

We agreed with donte whitner ...before he turned around and screwed us.

Clements was a quality signing. Thomas Howard was s really good player for Oakland before coming here. Lawson was at least a pretty high former 1st rounder.

We traded for Taylor Mays - a year after trading for Reggie Nelson. They picked up McGlynn who started at center for a playoff team the year before. We signed Jean- Gilles who kind of ****** but started for Philly in 2010 as well.

Seems like they were pretty aggressive last off-season in at least trying to improve. Maybe this year it will be easier to get guys who want to play here.

[UCMehayward]

Originally Posted by POLLOS

Must sign Reggie Nelson, Mike Nugent, and extend Geno Atkins for a long time. I would like to see Clements stick around.

Some guys can be cut like Simpson and Livings. Benson needs to go along with Crocker.

They need to draft or sign a WR to compliment AJ Green, a couple good, young, guards, and they need a corner and another safety.

RB would also be nice.

I agree with ALL of this.... BENSON needs to go... CROCKER lost us the playoff game in my opinion and his cover skills went from servicable to horrible! I would resign Jerome because he is not great, but has good upside and gives us depth and will be cheap. Sign or draft a #2 reciever... Sign or draft 2 guards... Sign or draft a COVER safety... RESIGN Nugent and Nelson... TRY to extend Geno (and i only say TRY because if they do everything i ask previously, then money will be short.. but they NEED to extend his contract)

[triple3]

Originally Posted by POLLOS

Must sign Reggie Nelson, Mike Nugent, and extend Geno Atkins for a long time. I would like to see Clements stick around.

Some guys can be cut like Simpson and Livings. Benson needs to go along with Crocker.

They need to draft or sign a WR to compliment AJ Green, a couple good, young, guards, and they need a corner and another safety.

RB would also be nice.

I approve...

[Tommy Casanova 72-77]

Originally Posted by BritishBengal

To be fair this team doesn't need many big names. Get a couple of starters in the draft, then some depth, and then potentially one or two upgrades through FA. I wouldn't worry. I can still see a fairly big name CB, WR or OG being brought in.

Philly proved this year that splashing the cash can be counter productive.

I don't care what Philly did....No one is asking them to be like Philly pr Washington...but re-signing players that are mediocre when you have chances for upgrades elsewhere is not a good route either.

I am not speaking of Nelson either. He is OK to have and I would like Sims back. Besides that......you can find upgrades at every position if you commit to spending more money to do it.

[basballguy]

Originally Posted by Tommy Casanova 72-77

I don't care what Philly did....No one is asking them to be like Philly pr Washington...but re-signing players that are mediocre when you have chances for upgrades elsewhere is not a good route either.

I am not speaking of Nelson either. He is OK to have and I would like Sims back. Besides that......you can find upgrades at every position if you commit to spending more money to do it.

I guess it goes both ways. You can show a model where it NEVER works (read: Washington) or a model where it works more times than not (read New England). I prefer not signing successful free agents. How often are players successful from team to team. Via FA or trades or whatever. I can name plenty who produced great for one team and bad for another, but have to truely think about players that are highly successful after changing teams.

Marshall Faulk would be my best example for
Jay Cutler would be my most recent against

I just think the FA market is too risky and never really nets us anything of "worth"

[Tommy Casanova 72-77]

Originally Posted by basballguy

I guess it goes both ways. You can show a model where it NEVER works (read: Washington) or a model where it works more times than not (read New England). I prefer not signing successful free agents. How often are players successful from team to team. Via FA or trades or whatever. I can name plenty who produced great for one team and bad for another, but have to truely think about players that are highly successful after changing teams.

Marshall Faulk would be my best example for
Jay Cutler would be my most recent against

I just think the FA market is too risky and never really nets us anything of "worth"

Yes it is true that you have both sides of the spectrum here. I would prefer they sign a Guard for one side and then draft the other. We have read though where this OL coach, who should not be here anymkore, IMO.....uses a scheme that seems to only net him bringing in Bad Guards to fill it...most of the time, and letting the good one has go.

A FA Guard and Safety or CB,.....then draft another Guard and S/CB.....and a Center in the 2nd (There are at least 4 good ones out there that can go in 1st 3 rounds) and then your RB, along with a FA RB coming in would be something that I would do. You have to decide on another WR in FA as well....I do not seem them re-signing Simpson with his legal stuff coming up and Caldwell is Very replaceable.


Question is picking the right RB to bring in through FA....that can also catch balls out of the backfield.

I would like them to draft a G and Center in the 1st round OR Guard and CB. 2nd round... S or C (If you did not draft one in the 1st) 3rd round (Joseph supplement pick as well?) a RB and S. 4th round a WR.
After that OLB, DT in the 5th (Chad Johnson pick from NE) then who knows what depth and where.

[SydneyBengal]

Nugent seemed to miss a few towards the end of the season, really i thought he was rubbish.

[OchoCincos]

Originally Posted by BritishBengal

To be fair this team doesn't need many big names. Get a couple of starters in the draft, then some depth, and then potentially one or two upgrades through FA. I wouldn't worry. I can still see a fairly big name CB, WR or OG being brought in.

Philly proved this year that splashing the cash can be counter productive.

The Redskins have proven this every year. The Eagles must have figured that the Redskins were just bad at harnessing that talent. However, both are examples of not loading up 25%+ with expensive free agents. The Bengals are typically on the opposite end of the spectrum, not picking up hardly any free agents. Adding a big name or two does not seem to be damaging to the team. Imagine how much better our secondary would have been with Whitner next to Nelson instead of Crocker.

Pick two FA out of the following positions: guard, WR2, safety, or RB. Then draft the others in the first 2 rounds.

[neek]

Originally Posted by OchoCincos

The Redskins have proven this every year. The Eagles must have figured that the Redskins were just bad at harnessing that talent. However, both are examples of not loading up 25%+ with expensive free agents. The Bengals are typically on the opposite end of the spectrum, not picking up hardly any free agents. Adding a big name or two does not seem to be damaging to the team. Imagine how much better our secondary would have been with Whitner next to Nelson instead of Crocker.

Pick two FA out of the following positions: guard, WR2, safety, or RB. Then draft the others in the first 2 rounds.

It's pretty much this simple. Why Marvin can't see this is beyond me. It's not going to cost a ton to do this either.

[Tommy Casanova 72-77]

Originally Posted by neek

It's pretty much this simple. Why Marvin can't see this is beyond me. It's not going to cost a ton to do this either.

It's Not Marvin. It's the Brown Family that thinks this way.

[neek]

Originally Posted by UCMehayward

As usual when free agency starts March 13, they won’t be looking for big names and are most likely to focus on signing own players. The Bengals hope to have guys like kicker Mike Nugent and safety Reggie Nelson locked up before offseason workouts start April 16 at Paul Brown Stadium.

I read this on the front page artical SMH!! This is ridiculous... I hope to GOD that this isnt true and the front office realize they need to strike the iron while its HOT! You went to the playoffs... Your NOT rebuilding.. You just need a few pieces to get you further into the playoffs... For GOD sakes PLEASE atleast grab ONE big name... Just ONE!! Grab Michael Bush, Grab Grubs or Nicks... GRAB SOMEONE GOT ******** lol!

http://www.bengals.com/news/article-...5-6386b7e70bb9

Thank you sir for ruining my morning. YES we do need a couple big names. We don't need MINOR upgrades. We need play makers and impact players.

[Shady]

I would think there's a reason why Gruden was so quick to sign that 3-year extension. Marvin or Mike must have assured him that steps would be taken to improve the personnel on offense and that Mr. Benson would no longer be a thorn in his side. Look for a guard and a possible #2 WR in FA.

[Toy Cannon]

No big-name free agent is going to sign with the Bengals. They are all going to get atttractive offers from teams that have a GM, scouts, and a practice bubble. So why would they want to come here?

[fredtoast]

Originally Posted by Toy Cannon

No big-name free agent is going to sign with the Bengals. They are all going to get atttractive offers from teams that have a GM, scouts, and a practice bubble. So why would they want to come here?

We are a playoff team with tons of upside. We are one of the youngest teams in the league....We have two first round draft picks....We have more cap space than most other teams

[Shake n Blake]

Originally Posted by fredtoast

We are a playoff team with tons of upside. We are one of the youngest teams in the league....We have two first round draft picks....We have more cap space than most other teams

Will we actually do anything with it? Other than resign a few of our own?

[fredtoast]

Originally Posted by Shake n Blake

Will we actually do anything with it? Other than resign a few of our own?

I think the empty stadium got Mike attention.

Plus he has signed at least one top dollar vfree agent each of the last few years.

We paid tons of money to Coles, Bryant, and Odom. They may not have been very productive, but that does not negate the fact that Mike was paying big money to free agents. Plus he tried to trade for Shaun Rodgers who would have been another top dolar player.

[SDwhodey]

Originally Posted by fredtoast

We are a playoff team with tons of upside. We are one of the youngest teams in the league....We have two first round draft picks....We have more cap space than most other teams

We have more cap space than all teams!

[el-insaciable]

Originally Posted by Shady

I would think there's a reason why Gruden was so quick to sign that 3-year extension. Marvin or Mike must have assured him that steps would be taken to improve the personnel on offense and that Mr. Benson would no longer be a thorn in his side. Look for a guard and a possible #2 WR in FA.

I think that is a good observation.

Also we definitely have the cap space to at least pursue a significant upgrade or two in free agency. According to the ESPN NFC South blog the Bengals had the least amount of money committed to the 2012 salary cap per 12/3 last year.

Looking at 2012 salary cap

"One of the teams well below the average is the Atlanta Falcons. They’re sitting at $89.3 million. The Cincinnati Bengals ($71.2 million) have the least committed toward the 2012 cap."

While we do have a host of upcoming free agents, none of them is expected to command a blockbuster deal. The absence of a franchise quarterback contract, in particular, really gives us a lot of freedom this offseason cap-wise.