Bengals-Steelers-Ravens....3 games in 4 weeks

[CigarMatt]

Originally Posted by jarhead

Plus the fact that when we play this Sunday, it will have been LESS than a month since we last played them. They are playing so much better though.. they are 1-1 since our game.

Anybody else think it's odd that the Ravens will play both of their games against Cinci before playing against Pittsburgh?

[philhos]

Originally Posted by CigarMatt

Anybody else think it's odd that the Ravens will play both of their games against Cinci before playing against Pittsburgh?

[jarhead]

Originally Posted by CigarMatt

Anybody else think it's odd that the Ravens will play both of their games against Cinci before playing against Pittsburgh?

Yeah... they knew what they were doing. The first match up is the Sunday night game.. the next is week 16 which is "flexible".

[coltsfan4ever]

Originally Posted by goravens

although the bengals are playing well they still have to prove they can win in november and december which they havent done in years past except for last year the bengals usually start out well and then fall apart in the later games.

im just gla the ravens have a bye week before they play the colts which is the browns lol. the colts look good and we havent beat them in years so we will see.

I just looked at our schedule. We play our nemesis - New England - before we play you guys! Now, this can go one of two ways - if we beat the Patriots, we'll most likely be more relaxed than normal and we may end up playing uninspired, in which case, we'll be vulnerable.

HOWEVER!

Peyton really, really HATES losing to New England! He hates it more than he would care to admit to the media. If THAT happens... well... I feel sorry for any team that follows because Peyton will be royally PO 'ed and he'll want to take it out on that team and score like 100 touchdowns. So... maybe... you might want to root for the Patriots to lose to us - I'm just saying!

In the meantime, we'll be tuning up with our division doormat - the Texans - before we have our annual slugfest with the Patriots.

[34inXXIII]

Originally Posted by goravens

although the bengals are playing well they still have to prove they can win in november and december which they havent done in years past except for last year the bengals usually start out well and then fall apart in the later games.

im just gla the ravens have a bye week before they play the colts which is the browns lol. the colts look good and we havent beat them in years so we will see.

Actually, you're a little backwards on this assessment....

August-October under Marvin Lewis
2003: 3-4
2004: 2-5
2005: 6-2
2006: 4-3
2007: 3-4
2008: 0-8

18-26. Hardly 'starting off well'. However, in the seasons they did, in fact, start well with winning records, they either made the playoffs (2005 - the last time they has 2 losses going into November) or missed by a single game (2006 - more on that later).

November results under Marvin Lewis
2003: 4-1
2004: 3-1
2005: 2-1 (both wins against Baltimore, FWIW)
2006: 3-2
2007: 2-2
2008: 1-2-1

15-9-1. November hasn't been the problem for the Bengals. Last year's debacle of a season was the only season under Marvin they were under .500 in that month. In all his previous seasons, there was still hope for a playoff berth during November and they played well under that pressure.

December/January results under Marvin Lewis
2003: 1-3
2004: 3-2
2005: 3-2
2006: 1-3
2007: 3-2
2008: 3-1

14-13. Still not a losing record for this team under Marvin as the season draws to a close, though definitely more of a concern than the previous month. The most troublesome of these results are 2003 (w/Kitna) and 2006 (w/Palmer) where the team had a playoff berth in reach.

A lot of things are falling into place for the Bengals. They have a history of playing better in the second half of the season. They have proved to have the resilience to make the clutch plays down the stretch when necessary. They are starting to establish the kind of physical mentality that is necessary in the AFC North. They have the confidence in knowing that they can beat the division's best franchises this year even without playing their best.

It's encouraging, no doubt, but they still have to play the games and they still have to execute, because noone's rolling over, especially not the Steelers and Ravens, who have been through this battle more than once. Should be a fun couple of months.

[coltsfan4ever]

Originally Posted by CigarMatt

I can definitely see this happening. I just hate making predictions because of two reasons. One, I **** at it, and two, you never know what's going to happen in the NFL. But like I said, the Bengals will have at least ten wins and most likely make the playoffs. They won't go deep though, the farthest they will make it will be the divisional round, if that.

I'm curious... why do you say that? I mean, if the Bengals make it to the playoffs, don't you think they have as good a chance as any to get past the divisional rounds? They look as if they can beat any team in the AFC. In addition, they are undefeated in your own division. Other than their penchance for waiting until the 4th quarter to start playing, they don't look particularly weak. I'm guessing the next 3 weeks will clear the air a bit because it looks as if everyone in your division are playing each other.

From my perspective, the Ravens, Steelers, and Bengals have equal chances of going deep into the playoffs. Other than the Broncos, Patriots and "us" (Colts), there's really no other AFC teams in the way of the Super Bowl.

[rydogg707]

Originally Posted by 34inXXIII

Actually, you're a little backwards on this assessment....

August-October under Marvin Lewis
2003: 3-4
2004: 2-5
2005: 6-2
2006: 4-3
2007: 3-4
2008: 0-8

18-26. Hardly 'starting off well'. However, in the seasons they did, in fact, start well with winning records, they either made the playoffs (2005 - the last time they has 2 losses going into November) or missed by a single game (2006 - more on that later).

November results under Marvin Lewis
2003: 4-1
2004: 3-1
2005: 2-1 (both wins against Baltimore, FWIW)
2006: 3-2
2007: 2-2
2008: 1-2-1

15-9-1. November hasn't been the problem for the Bengals. Last year's debacle of a season was the only season under Marvin they were under .500 in that month. In all his previous seasons, there was still hope for a playoff berth during November and they played well under that pressure.

December/January results under Marvin Lewis
2003: 1-3
2004: 3-2
2005: 3-2
2006: 1-3
2007: 3-2
2008: 3-1

14-13. Still not a losing record for this team under Marvin as the season draws to a close, though definitely more of a concern than the previous month. The most troublesome of these results are 2003 (w/Kitna) and 2006 (w/Palmer) where the team had a playoff berth in reach.

A lot of things are falling into place for the Bengals. They have a history of playing better in the second half of the season. They have proved to have the resilience to make the clutch plays down the stretch when necessary. They are starting to establish the kind of physical mentality that is necessary in the AFC North. They have the confidence in knowing that they can beat the division's best franchises this year even without playing their best.

It's encouraging, no doubt, but they still have to play the games and they still have to execute, because noone's rolling over, especially not the Steelers and Ravens, who have been through this battle more than once. Should be a fun couple of months.

That.

Just.

Happened.


Thanks for doing all that reseach and fact checking 34!!!! The Bengals haven't even hit their stride yet, and they are still humble and looking for improvment. Mavin even said he wasn't totally satisfied with the Bears game. That speaks volumes of where this team is at mentally. Especially because the players seem to feel the same way Marvin does on this issue. They are all still hungry and looking to improve, and establish some consistancy on offense and defense.

[rydogg707]

Originally Posted by coltsfan4ever

I'm curious... why do you say that? I mean, if the Bengals make it to the playoffs, don't you think they have as good a chance as any to get past the divisional rounds? They look as if they can beat any team in the AFC. In addition, they are undefeated in your own division. Other than their penchance for waiting until the 4th quarter to start playing, they don't look particularly weak. I'm guessing the next 3 weeks will clear the air a bit because it looks as if everyone in your division are playing each other.

From my perspective, the Ravens, Steelers, and Bengals have equal chances of going deep into the playoffs. Other than the Broncos, Patriots and "us" (Colts), there's really no other AFC teams in the way of the Super Bowl.

Since we're all in the same division, and hate each other even when we are all 0-0 on opening day it's just how it is. Most division rival fans (at least in my AFCN experience) base things off the history of the franchise. Because the Steelers and Ravens have had multiple winning seasons and playoff appearances and the Bengals have only had 1 winning season, and playoff experience, in which we lost, in the past 20 years they will continue to doubt the Bengals only because they aren't accustomed to winning and being in the playoffs.

And in some regards they are right, because we don't really know how this team will handle success if they make it to the post season. They seem to have the right mentality for a playoff team, but we'll have to see how they execute it. Bengal fans see what our team is about and truely believe we'll go the distance this year, and deep into the playoffs. Now the team just has to back up our belief and earn the respect from the league and divisional fans it's already earned from Bengals fans.

Believe it or not Steelers and Ravens fans, we respect you (or at least I do). And why wouldn't I, you've accomplished quite a bit and have earned the respect. Most of any fanbase just hates the arrogant jerks that a very successful franchise has. I hate arrogant Patriot fans, and I despise Yankee fans. Because you can never really tell who are the true fans or the bandwagoners jumping on the latest "fad" of the winning team. Right now it's getting hard to tell the true Bengals fans from the bandwagoners in Cincy, because we're starting to be successful so far this season. I will be honest, I never had the time to follow football before and even though I was from Ohio, I was never really a Bengals fan until we got Carson Palmer. 2005 was a dream, and my friends and I didn't jump ship the 3 years after, because we're true fans. And we're getting some dividends this year for that loyalty.

But it's our turn now, and it's going to be that much sweeter when we win it all having punched though respectful opponents like yourself. I sure hope it happens!

[goravens]

Originally Posted by 34inXXIII

Actually, you're a little backwards on this assessment....

August-October under Marvin Lewis
2003: 3-4
2004: 2-5
2005: 6-2
2006: 4-3
2007: 3-4
2008: 0-8

18-26. Hardly 'starting off well'. However, in the seasons they did, in fact, start well with winning records, they either made the playoffs (2005 - the last time they has 2 losses going into November) or missed by a single game (2006 - more on that later).

November results under Marvin Lewis
2003: 4-1
2004: 3-1
2005: 2-1 (both wins against Baltimore, FWIW)
2006: 3-2
2007: 2-2
2008: 1-2-1

15-9-1. November hasn't been the problem for the Bengals. Last year's debacle of a season was the only season under Marvin they were under .500 in that month. In all his previous seasons, there was still hope for a playoff berth during November and they played well under that pressure.

December/January results under Marvin Lewis
2003: 1-3
2004: 3-2
2005: 3-2
2006: 1-3
2007: 3-2
2008: 3-1

14-13. Still not a losing record for this team under Marvin as the season draws to a close, though definitely more of a concern than the previous month. The most troublesome of these results are 2003 (w/Kitna) and 2006 (w/Palmer) where the team had a playoff berth in reach.

A lot of things are falling into place for the Bengals. They have a history of playing better in the second half of the season. They have proved to have the resilience to make the clutch plays down the stretch when necessary. They are starting to establish the kind of physical mentality that is necessary in the AFC North. They have the confidence in knowing that they can beat the division's best franchises this year even without playing their best.

It's encouraging, no doubt, but they still have to play the games and they still have to execute, because noone's rolling over, especially not the Steelers and Ravens, who have been through this battle more than once. Should be a fun couple of months.

I see the record and i do see your point but what that doesnt show is who they lost to. and i seem to remember them losing some easy games that would have had them making at least a wild card birth in some of those years im not saying the ravens are any better then that because they seem to only come to play every other year lol but the steelers do seem to win the games that there supposed to and upset some teams when it really counts and i dont see that with the former bengals teams

im not gonna pretend that i know for sure and im to lazy to go and check lol

[coltsfan4ever]

Originally Posted by rydogg707

Since we're all in the same division, and hate each other even when we are all 0-0 on opening day it's just how it is. Most division rival fans (at least in my AFCN experience) base things off the history of the franchise. Because the Steelers and Ravens have had multiple winning seasons and playoff appearances and the Bengals have only had 1 winning season, and playoff experience, in which we lost, in the past 20 years they will continue to doubt the Bengals only because they aren't accustomed to winning and being in the playoffs.

And in some regards they are right, because we don't really know how this team will handle success if they make it to the post season. They seem to have the right mentality for a playoff team, but we'll have to see how they execute it. Bengal fans see what our team is about and truely believe we'll go the distance this year, and deep into the playoffs. Now the team just has to back up our belief and earn the respect from the league and divisional fans it's already earned from Bengals fans.

Believe it or not Steelers and Ravens fans, we respect you (or at least I do). And why wouldn't I, you've accomplished quite a bit and have earned the respect. Most of any fanbase just hates the arrogant jerks that a very successful franchise has. I hate arrogant Patriot fans, and I despise Yankee fans. Because you can never really tell who are the true fans or the bandwagoners jumping on the latest "fad" of the winning team. Right now it's getting hard to tell the true Bengals fans from the bandwagoners in Cincy, because we're starting to be successful so far this season. I will be honest, I never had the time to follow football before and even though I was from Ohio, I was never really a Bengals fan until we got Carson Palmer. 2005 was a dream, and my friends and I didn't jump ship the 3 years after, because we're true fans. And we're getting some dividends this year for that loyalty.

But it's our turn now, and it's going to be that much sweeter when we win it all having punched though respectful opponents like yourself. I sure hope it happens!

Well, if there ever was a year for you guys to beat "us" (Colts), then this is the year! Although I'm confident we'll make it to the playoffs, I don't think we have all of the pieces in place to make a Superbowl run. We have a new head coach (Caldwell), new wide receivers, our run game is weak, and our defense has only now started to get its act together. For our franchise, this is a rebuilding year. So, we're vulnerable this year for getting "punched through" in the playoffs. Now... I'm not saying it's going to be easy to beat us, but we're beatable this year.

Now... the reason I'm emphasizing this year is because I think next year, our franchise will be playing lights out football. Everything will be in synch and all indications are that we'll have a pretty dominant team - next year - not this year.

It's pretty exciting watching the AFC North this year. You guys are battling it out and there's been some pretty exciting games, especially with you "Cardiac Cats"! Lol! It's been pretty boring in the AFC South. Our 2 normally strong rivals - Titans and Jaguars - have fallen flat on their faces, leaving only our division doormat - Texans - to nudge us awake from going into a total coma before the playoffs.

We'll be playing one of your division rivals though. We go to play the Ravens after our annual slugfest with the Patriots. Depending on the outcome of the Patriots game, the Ravens will either have a chance to beat us or they'll get their butts handed to them courtesy of a very ticked off Peyton wanting to take it out on someone because he just lost to the Patriots - again! Lol... Peyton really hates losing to Tom Brady. I don't like the Patriots much either... so... I'm with Peyton on that!

Anyway... sounds like the next couple of weeks ought to be exciting for the Bengals!

[rydogg707]

Originally Posted by coltsfan4ever

Well, if there ever was a year for you guys to beat "us" (Colts), then this is the year! Although I'm confident we'll make it to the playoffs, I don't think we have all of the pieces in place to make a Superbowl run. We have a new head coach (Caldwell), new wide receivers, our run game is weak, and our defense has only now started to get its act together. For our franchise, this is a rebuilding year. So, we're vulnerable this year for getting "punched through" in the playoffs. Now... I'm not saying it's going to be easy to beat us, but we're beatable this year.

Now... the reason I'm emphasizing this year is because I think next year, our franchise will be playing lights out football. Everything will be in synch and all indications are that we'll have a pretty dominant team - next year - not this year.

It's pretty exciting watching the AFC North this year. You guys are battling it out and there's been some pretty exciting games, especially with you "Cardiac Cats"! Lol! It's been pretty boring in the AFC South. Our 2 normally strong rivals - Titans and Jaguars - have fallen flat on their faces, leaving only our division doormat - Texans - to nudge us awake from going into a total coma before the playoffs.

We'll be playing one of your division rivals though. We go to play the Ravens after our annual slugfest with the Patriots. Depending on the outcome of the Patriots game, the Ravens will either have a chance to beat us or they'll get their butts handed to them courtesy of a very ticked off Peyton wanting to take it out on someone because he just lost to the Patriots - again! Lol... Peyton really hates losing to Tom Brady. I don't like the Patriots much either... so... I'm with Peyton on that!

Anyway... sounds like the next couple of weeks ought to be exciting for the Bengals!

Even though we didn't get a new coach, with the way our offseason went, and our draft, re-organizing the line, losing TJ, bringing in Coles, some new key players on defense, etc, I was thinking this is a rebuilding year for Cincy as well, especially with Palmer coming off of his injury. Some of our key players right now are on 1 year deals, but if/when we make it to the playoffs and at least win 1 playoff game, I think it will be so easy to sign those players back and then have another good offseason. I think next year could be a lights out performace from us as well.

I will agree with you that the AFCN has been really crazy this year, we're the only divsion in the AFC in which our 3rd place team has a winning record. The other 3 divisions only have 2 teams with winning records. Now that could all change here in the next 3-4 weeks. November is really going to define the AFCN for the playoffs. I'm just glad the Bengals are being competitive this year. I'm sure the Steelers and Ravens think otherwise, since for the past few seasons it's been them duking it out for playoff spots.

[coltsfan4ever]

Originally Posted by rydogg707

Even though we didn't get a new coach, with the way our offseason went, and our draft, re-organizing the line, losing TJ, bringing in Coles, some new key players on defense, etc, I was thinking this is a rebuilding year for Cincy as well, especially with Palmer coming off of his injury.

That's right! You guys lost TJ Housh... err... I can't pronounce. Anyway... isn't he with the Seahawks now? I read somewhere that he was glad that the Seahawks won and the Bengals lost? Ehh? Did he leave on bad terms or what? I actually find it amusing that ever since he said that, the Seahawks have been losing and the Bengals have been winning. Pretty ironic, I think.

[CigarMatt]

Originally Posted by coltsfan4ever

That's right! You guys lost TJ Housh... err... I can't pronounce. Anyway... isn't he with the Seahawks now? I read somewhere that he was glad that the Seahawks won and the Bengals lost? Ehh? Did he leave on bad terms or what? I actually find it amusing that ever since he said that, the Seahawks have been losing and the Bengals have been winning. Pretty ironic, I think.

Or it could be that the Seahawks ****.

[coltsfan4ever]

Originally Posted by CigarMatt

Or it could be that the Seahawks ****.

Yes, that too! Lol! Always that possibility.

[CigarMatt]

Originally Posted by jarhead

Yeah... they knew what they were doing. The first match up is the Sunday night game.. the next is week 16 which is "flexible".

SCS just reminded me as to why the Ravens wait until later to play both their games against Pittsburgh...because they whined to the NFL about playing prime time in Pittsburgh. They were supposed to be the first game and then they threw a hissyfit.

[34inXXIII]

Originally Posted by goravens

I see the record and i do see your point but what that doesnt show is who they lost to. and i seem to remember them losing some easy games that would have had them making at least a wild card birth in some of those years im not saying the ravens are any better then that because they seem to only come to play every other year lol but the steelers do seem to win the games that there supposed to and upset some teams when it really counts and i dont see that with the former bengals teams

im not gonna pretend that i know for sure and im to lazy to go and check lol

Record in November-January vs teams with equal or better end of season records
2003: 1-2 - win vs KC (13-3, won AFC West)
2004: 2-3 - wins at BALT (9-7), at PHIL (13-3, NFC Champion)
2005: 1-1 - win at PITT (11-5, Super Bowl champion)
2006: 2-5 - wins at NO (10-6, reached NFC Championship game), vs BALT (13-3, won AFC North)
2007: 2-3 - wins vs TENN (10-6, wild card berth), vs CLEV (10-6)
2008: 2-3-1 - wins vs JAX (5-11), vs WASH (8-8); tie vs PHIL (9-6-1, reached NFC Championship game)

This is where your point is made....

10-17-1. I'd even go so far as to throw out the wins over Philadelphia in 2004 (Week 17 game where they rested their starters) and 2008 Jacksonville (a win over a 5-11 team is hardly significant in this discussion), which puts them at 8-17-1. Certainly could use some improvement there, though I have to wonder how those numbers compare to other teams that have hovered around .500 for much of the same period of time. After all, if that record were better, there wouldn't be as many teams that did have equal of better records.

Losses in November-January to teams with worse end of season records
2003: vs CLEV (5-11)
2004: None
2005: vs BUF (5-11), at KC (10-6)
2006: None
2007: at San Francisco (5-11)
2008: None

This is promising. In fact, just as we tossed out the PHIL & JAX games above, the loss to KC came in a game the Bengals were resting starters, so that one goes. That leaves 3 losses to teams with lesser records in the last half of the season over 6 seasons. That means they're generally beating the teams they're supposed to beat. With four teams on the schedule that should finish with worse records (OAK, CLEV, DET & KC), it's very encouraging.

[Packerbacker09]

If the Bengals play like they did against the Bears they will go a long way.

[CBengals4ever]

Originally Posted by Ben_7ownsBungles_

You messed one thing up on this schedule and that's the Ravens play at the Browns on Monday night in 2 weeks not the Titans before hosting the Colts. I still say the Steelers at the end of this stretch will be in first place at the end of the month going into Baltimore. I think the Steelers win the next 3 at Denver,Cincy,and at Kansas City,the Ravens win the next 2 against the Bengals and Browns, and the Bengals lose both games to the Ravens and the Steelers and fall to 5-4. The good news for the Bengals and their fans is they should be able to hang in the division race and playoff contention because they should win their next 3 games after the Steelers game at Oakland,and home against both the Browns and Lions and get their record to 8-4. The Bengals problem is that after the Steelers play the Bengals the Steelers have 3 out of 4 games at Kansas City,home with Oakland,and at the Browns with the Ravens sandwiched in between those 3. Does anybody on here really see Kansas City,Oakland,or Cleveland beating the Steelers realistically??

Ive said this before and Ill say it again if the Bengals are going to win the AFC North I feel they MUST win both of these games or at the very least one of them against either the Ravens or the Steelers and that is just not going to be easy for the Bengals to do one more time seeing that both of these teams are playing a lot better then they were when the Bengals beat them over a month ago...

Really? Balt finally got back on track against Den. That's 1 game....wow. Pitt let det and cleve hang around. Minn pretty much lost the game. This was one of the topics after that game, "Pitt when the game or Minn lose the game". Of course they felt Minn lost the game themselves. I personally don't think pitt is anywhere near where they were last year. One of you will be swept by us. We WONT lose both those games. Mark my words!!!!!!!

[Blitzberg06]

Originally Posted by CBengals4ever

Really? Balt finally got back on track against Den. That's 1 game....wow. Pitt let det and cleve hang around. Minn pretty much lost the game. This was one of the topics after that game, "Pitt when the game or Minn lose the game". Of course they felt Minn lost the game themselves. I personally don't think pitt is anywhere near where they were last year. One of you will be swept by us. We WONT lose both those games. Mark my words!!!!!!!

For one if Minn lost the game and the Steelers didn't win it then you set yourself up for something you really can't handle.

Also Phil loves your kind you should PM him showing the last 3 words of your post.

[RavensLover69]

Originally Posted by CBengals4ever

Really? Balt finally got back on track against Den. That's 1 game....wow. Pitt let det and cleve hang around. Minn pretty much lost the game. This was one of the topics after that game, "Pitt when the game or Minn lose the game". Of course they felt Minn lost the game themselves. I personally don't think pitt is anywhere near where they were last year. One of you will be swept by us. We WONT lose both those games. Mark my words!!!!!!!

The Steelers have looked the best since you last faced them. Sure they let the Lions and Browns put some points up on them, but they kept a Vikings offense that has been averaging over 30 points a game to only 17.
The Bengals had one good game since playing them and that was against the Bears.

How are you so quick to write off the Steelers?

[Ben_7ownsBungles_]

Originally Posted by CBengals4ever

Really? Balt finally got back on track against Den. That's 1 game....wow. Pitt let det and cleve hang around. Minn pretty much lost the game. This was one of the topics after that game, "Pitt when the game or Minn lose the game". Of course they felt Minn lost the game themselves. I personally don't think pitt is anywhere near where they were last year. One of you will be swept by us. We WONT lose both those games. Mark my words!!!!!!!

Pitt let Cleveland hang around but if you watched that game there was never any danger of the Steelers losing that game to the Browns. You want to sit there and rip on the Steelers letting the Browns hang around when incase you forgot the Bengals needed to the very last seconds of overtime to beat the Browns on a FG that barely went in which would have made that game end in a tie, and needed a 4th down conversion for a TD at the 2 minute warning to tie the game against the Browns. Also, the Bengals got spanked around at home pretty damn good by an up and down inconsistent Houston Texans team.

This is the same Houston Texans team that lost to the Jaguars in Houston earlier this year and the Jaguars got shutout by Seattle who stinks 41-0, they barely beat the Rams a few weeks ago in overtime, and just gave Tennessee their first win of the season this past weekend. The bottom line is the Steelers havent lost a game since they played the Bengals and lost they are 4-0 since, and beat two pretty solid teams in that stretch with good offenses in the Chargers and the Vikings.

It's all fine and good you can keep thinking the Steelers arent as good as last year. The Bengals will get a hard reality check when they come to Heinz Field for the rematch in 12 days from Ben Roethlisberger and the defending champs...There wont be no 4th quarter meltdowns this time by the Steelers and last second comebacks from the so called "cardiac cats" in Pittsburgh.

[34inXXIII]

Can't think of many playoff teams that rolled over every one of their sub-par opponents. Just like it's hypocritical of a Bengals fan insisting the Vikes gave away or lost the game, the Steelers didn't win it when the same argument could be made about the Steelers-Bengals game earlier this season, it's also hypocritical of a Steelers fan criticizing the Bengals for having to go to overtime to beat the now 1-7 Browns when the Steelers needed to do the same to beat the now 1-6 Titans.

[CigarMatt]

Originally Posted by 34inXXIII

Can't think of many playoff teams that rolled over every one of their sub-par opponents. Just like it's hypocritical of a Bengals fan insisting the Vikes gave away or lost the game, the Steelers didn't win it when the same argument could be made about the Steelers-Bengals game earlier this season, it's also hypocritical of a Steelers fan criticizing the Bengals for having to go to overtime to beat the now 1-7 Browns when the Steelers needed to do the same to beat the now 1-6 Titans.

Psh! Quit trying to bring logic into this forum.

[CBengals4ever]

Originally Posted by Blitzberg06

For one if Minn lost the game and the Steelers didn't win it then you set yourself up for something you really can't handle.

Also Phil loves your kind you should PM him showing the last 3 words of your post.

That's most of the reason why i said it bc it's like a death sentence in here. Besides I don't feel we will lose both games.

[CBengals4ever]

Originally Posted by RavensLover69

The Steelers have looked the best since you last faced them. Sure they let the Lions and Browns put some points up on them, but they kept a Vikings offense that has been averaging over 30 points a game to only 17.
The Bengals had one good game since playing them and that was against the Bears.

How are you so quick to write off the Steelers?

If that was our only "good" game then the stealers haven't had one yet this year. Or did you mean "complete" game?? Oh that's right........troy's back. Wasn't writing them off by any means. Especially with both teams having a pretty soft remaining schedule. Just stating that so far they haven't impressed me as much as last year. A lot of football to be played though.....right??? Don't be so quick to get your panties in a bunch!! Personally, I think all 3 teams will be in there and will be decided in the last couple games of the year.