Devier Posey

[Buckeyehitman]

I've seen a couple of mock drafts around the board that have us taking him in the 4th or 5th round. First off, I don't think he lasts that long. Secondly, why the love for him? I might be the biggest Buckeye fan on the board but I'll be the first to admit the kid is widely inconsistent and has a serious case of dropping passes.

If we were going to go with Posey, I'd save the draft pick and re-sign Jerome Simpson.

[eliminate08]

Originally Posted by Buckeyehitman

I've seen a couple of mock drafts around the board that have us taking him in the 4th or 5th round. First off, I don't think he lasts that long. Secondly, why the love for him? I might be the biggest Buckeye fan on the board but I'll be the first to admit the kid is widely inconsistent and has a serious case of dropping passes.

If we were going to go with Posey, I'd save the draft pick and re-sign Jerome Simpson.

I don't want a receiver who has a history of dropping balls period.

Personally i want us to get a younger vet in FA and re-sign Simpson for cheap. There are
some decent WR's late in the draft as well like Greg Childs who i really liked when Mallett
was throwing him the ball.

[Jungle bum]

Nosey to Posey.......

[fozzie11]

I watch every ohio state game and other than the senior bowl i can't remember too many times when i was like oh man how did you drop that pass... and the only reason he really drops passes is a mechanics issue it's not his hands at all which is why if i were the GM on any team looking for a solid #2 WR and he is sitting there in the 4th i'd pull the trigger maybe even late 3rd.

[joshb1983]

for a 5th or 6th rd pick i think hes worth a shot...kinda like brisco was...

[Headcase72]

Originally Posted by Buckeyehitman

I've seen a couple of mock drafts around the board that have us taking him in the 4th or 5th round. First off, I don't think he lasts that long. Secondly, why the love for him? I might be the biggest Buckeye fan on the board but I'll be the first to admit the kid is widely inconsistent and has a serious case of dropping passes.

If we were going to go with Posey, I'd save the draft pick and re-sign Jerome Simpson.

First thing I am a huge Buckeye fan and dont miss a game.He does not have a serious case of drops.He drops passes every once in a while,not the way you make it sound.I also dont see where you can say hes inconsistent because he plays for a run first team.He would put up great numbers if he played for a pass first team such as Oklahoma State and their air attack offense.If you dont want the Bengals to take him thats your opinion but dont say stupid **** because you obviously are not even close to being a true Buckeye fan.The only thing I have against Posey is the fact he put himself ahead of the Buckeye team.I also understand he was young and made a couple mistakes so I forgive him.

[Headcase72]

Originally Posted by joshb1983

for a 5th or 6th rd pick i think hes worth a shot...kinda like brisco was...

WTF! Brisco was slow as ****.Posey is faster than that bs forty they gave him at the combine.He is worth a 3rd round pick and not a 5th or 6th.If you dont watch him play alot dont talk **** about him.The Buckeye offense struggled when he wasnt in there,which tells me he was a huge part of the offense.

[Headcase72]

Originally Posted by fozzie11

I watch every ohio state game and other than the senior bowl i can't remember too many times when i was like oh man how did you drop that pass... and the only reason he really drops passes is a mechanics issue it's not his hands at all which is why if i were the GM on any team looking for a solid #2 WR and he is sitting there in the 4th i'd pull the trigger maybe even late 3rd.

He is almost 6'2" and 210 lbs,is fast and runs very good routes so why the hell is he a 4th round.I take him in 3 atleast.I also agree with you about the drops in games which some make it out like he drops passes once a game or worse.I also think his drops are more of lack of concentration,he gets to relaxed when hes about to catch the ball.

[Headcase72]

Originally Posted by eliminate08

I don't want a receiver who has a history of dropping balls period.

Personally i want us to get a younger vet in FA and re-sign Simpson for cheap. There are
some decent WR's late in the draft as well like Greg Childs who i really liked when Mallett
was throwing him the ball.

Oh so no to any receiver out there then.There is not one receiver in this world who hasnt dropped passes.

[Headcase72]

Originally Posted by eliminate08

I don't want a receiver who has a history of dropping balls period.

Personally i want us to get a younger vet in FA and re-sign Simpson for cheap. There are
some decent WR's late in the draft as well like Greg Childs who i really liked when Mallett
was throwing him the ball.

There is not one receiver in this world who hasnt dropped balls every once in a while.To say he has a history of dropping balls just shows you dont watch many Buckeye games.Unless you actually know what you're talking about stop with the bs.

[Bengal4ever68]

Marvin Jones 3rd RD- Consistent hands, good route runner. Would be a solid #2

Devon Wylie 5th RD-Good hands, Very quick & fast, would be a good KR to start out for us.

[Whatever]

Originally Posted by Headcase72

There is not one receiver in this world who hasnt dropped balls every once in a while.To say he has a history of dropping balls just shows you dont watch many Buckeye games.Unless you actually know what you're talking about stop with the bs.

7 drops over the 16 game season in the NFL would put you in the top 10 in dropped passes last year. Posey drops one at least every other game,which means he has a drop problem by NFL standards. His route running is also wildly inconsistant,and he has gotten away with a lot at the Big 10 level because he's faster than Big 10 DB's. In the NFL,where most DB's have similar speed,he won't be able to get seperation,IMO.

[fozzie11]

Originally Posted by Whatever

7 drops over the 16 game season in the NFL would put you in the top 10 in dropped passes last year. Posey drops one at least every other game,which means he has a drop problem by NFL standards. His route running is also wildly inconsistant,and he has gotten away with a lot at the Big 10 level because he's faster than Big 10 DB's. In the NFL,where most DB's have similar speed,he won't be able to get seperation,IMO.

T.O also had a lot of drops and he is a HOF WR, but onto the real point he is actually one of the best route runners in this class which is really in my opinion what makes receivers good.
http://nflsfuture.com/2012/01/21/dev...outing-report/
http://nflmocks.com/2011/11/19/devie...tate-buckeyes/
http://sidelinescouting.com/rankings.../devier-posey/
http://draftace.com/blog/2012/01/23/...outing-report/
idk maybe all these writers are biased but they all compliment his route running abilities.

[09itsourtime]

Originally Posted by eliminate08

I don't want a receiver who has a history of dropping balls period.

Personally i want us to get a younger vet in FA and re-sign Simpson for cheap. There are
some decent WR's late in the draft as well like Greg Childs who i really liked when Mallett
was throwing him the ball.

Exactly. Receivers have 1 job to do. If they cant do it why are they even playing?

[Whatever]

Originally Posted by fozzie11

T.O also had a lot of drops and he is a HOF WR, but onto the real point he is actually one of the best route runners in this class which is really in my opinion what makes receivers good.
http://nflsfuture.com/2012/01/21/dev...outing-report/
http://nflmocks.com/2011/11/19/devie...tate-buckeyes/
http://sidelinescouting.com/rankings.../devier-posey/
http://draftace.com/blog/2012/01/23/...outing-report/
idk maybe all these writers are biased but they all compliment his route running abilities.

Posey is a great route runner...at times. At other times,he simply isn't sharp. That plays into his rap that he's inconsistant. I wouldn't be oppossed to taking a flier on him in the 5th or later,because he does have potential,but he hasn't proven himself to be a guy that I would count on in crunch time,which is what you'd expect out of a WR taken in the 3rd.

It should also be said that it doesn't matter how great a route runner you are if you don't catch the ball. All it takes is one drop on a key 3rd down to change an entire game. NFLDraftscout.com singled him out as a guy who was dropping a lot of balls during Senior Bowl practice,as well.

[fozzie11]

his drops are mainly a concentration issue, but nonetheless i don't really care where he goes other than our division rivals i just wanna see him have a good career.

[hairdo]

Originally Posted by Jungle bum

Nosey to Posey.......

Got some pretty nice TATOO'S

[t3r3e3]

Originally Posted by fozzie11

T.O also had a lot of drops and he is a HOF WR, but onto the real point he is actually one of the best route runners in this class which is really in my opinion what makes receivers good.
http://nflsfuture.com/2012/01/21/dev...outing-report/
http://nflmocks.com/2011/11/19/devie...tate-buckeyes/
http://sidelinescouting.com/rankings.../devier-posey/
http://draftace.com/blog/2012/01/23/...outing-report/
idk maybe all these writers are biased but they all compliment his route running abilities.

TO also had size that Posey will never have, and much better hands. TO's problem was always looking for the defender before securing the ball. Posey was hit or miss at OSU, and looked horrible at the Senior Bowl. Posey isn't much different than Armon Binns, who is on the practice squad. Now substitute Juron Criner or Jarius Wright for Posey, and you have something. Ryan Broyles can be had for a similar pick to Posey, and is much better.

[Buckeyehitman]

Originally Posted by Headcase72

First thing I am a huge Buckeye fan and dont miss a game.He does not have a serious case of drops.He drops passes every once in a while,not the way you make it sound.I also dont see where you can say hes inconsistent because he plays for a run first team.He would put up great numbers if he played for a pass first team such as Oklahoma State and their air attack offense.If you dont want the Bengals to take him thats your opinion but dont say stupid **** because you obviously are not even close to being a true Buckeye fan.The only thing I have against Posey is the fact he put himself ahead of the Buckeye team.I also understand he was young and made a couple mistakes so I forgive him.

First off, I love the argument that because we disagree with you, we are idiots. Bravo, not very often you see a well crafted argument like that.

Secondly, he drops passes...particularly ones he has no business dropping. Watch some of his tape from games where he is running down the sidelines all by himself only to have it go off his hands.

He is a good collegiate receiver, but in the pros I really think he's not going to do very well.

Third, if your argument is that he would catch more passes in a pass oriented offense then you fail. We aren't a pass oriented team, we are a run first team. He would get the same kinds of looks that Simpson got, you know, the ones he got in the Senior Bowl where he looked like a one armed receiver with cataracts?

Nothing at all against the kid, just don't want him on the Bengals.

Finally, and most importantly, I'm not a Buckeye fan because I don't want the Bengals to waste a draft pick on a guy I don't perceive to be good on the next level? Interesting. See the flag? See the name? Graduate of THE Ohio State University in 2004. Even went so far as to go on a posting spree to avoid having a picture of Leon Hall near my screen name close to the Ohio State/Michigan game. Also had a series of debates with Trojanpride over who would be better in the pros Maualuga or James Laurinaitis (think I'm winning that one by the way TP). Ask around on this board who just could be the biggest Buckeye fan on here, and you'll get my name popping up from the veterans. In short, when it comes to Buckeye fandom, go away little boy you are WAY out of your league here.

Originally Posted by fozzie11

T.O also had a lot of drops and he is a HOF WR, but onto the real point he is actually one of the best route runners in this class which is really in my opinion what makes receivers good.
http://nflsfuture.com/2012/01/21/dev...outing-report/
http://nflmocks.com/2011/11/19/devie...tate-buckeyes/
http://sidelinescouting.com/rankings.../devier-posey/
http://draftace.com/blog/2012/01/23/...outing-report/
idk maybe all these writers are biased but they all compliment his route running abilities.

Route running is good, but if you can't catch the ball when you get open there isn't much use in being a good route runner or being fast. Look at Brian Robiskie, crisp route running, decent speed...cut by the Browns because he couldn't catch a cold.

[fozzie11]

Originally Posted by Buckeyehitman

First off, I love the argument that because we disagree with you, we are idiots. Bravo, not very often you see a well crafted argument like that.

Secondly, he drops passes...particularly ones he has no business dropping. Watch some of his tape from games where he is running down the sidelines all by himself only to have it go off his hands.

He is a good collegiate receiver, but in the pros I really think he's not going to do very well.

Third, if your argument is that he would catch more passes in a pass oriented offense then you fail. We aren't a pass oriented team, we are a run first team. He would get the same kinds of looks that Simpson got, you know, the ones he got in the Senior Bowl where he looked like a one armed receiver with cataracts?

Nothing at all against the kid, just don't want him on the Bengals.

Finally, and most importantly, I'm not a Buckeye fan because I don't want the Bengals to waste a draft pick on a guy I don't perceive to be good on the next level? Interesting. See the flag? See the name? Graduate of THE Ohio State University in 2004. Even went so far as to go on a posting spree to avoid having a picture of Leon Hall near my screen name close to the Ohio State/Michigan game. Also had a series of debates with Trojanpride over who would be better in the pros Maualuga or James Laurinaitis (think I'm winning that one by the way TP). Ask around on this board who just could be the biggest Buckeye fan on here, and you'll get my name popping up from the veterans. In short, when it comes to Buckeye fandom, go away little boy you are WAY out of your league here.



Route running is good, but if you can't catch the ball when you get open there isn't much use in being a good route runner or being fast. Look at Brian Robiskie, crisp route running, decent speed...cut by the Browns because he couldn't catch a cold.

robiskie and posey are two completely different talents and think about it he drops passes, because he gets excited about being able to score, because he just scorched the guy covering him. i think if he could learn to settle down and concentrate which should come with maturation then he could be a very good #2 i'm not saying we should draft him in the first or second but if he is there in the 4th and have signed a vet guy that he can learn from he could do very well. in my opinion he is the best receiver to come out of OSU since holmes. alot of people on these forums expect to draft a guy that will be instantly better than simpson when in reality most receivers take a few years to mature and play well in this league not everyone can be A.J green.

[fozzie11]

also if you don't like the T.O comparison then how about Dwayne bowe they are quite similar bowe just has like 10 lbs oh him and they both had some drop issues.

[eoxyod]

Originally Posted by fozzie11

also if you don't like the T.O comparison then how about Dwayne bowe they are quite similar bowe just has like 10 lbs oh him and they both had some drop issues.

Except Dwayne Bowe is 100x more talented. Holy friggin homer on you and Headcase

[fozzie11]

Originally Posted by eoxyod

Except Dwayne Bowe is 100x more talented. Holy friggin homer on you and Headcase

yeah, he didn't come out of highschool as the 3rd WR in the nation behind A.J Green and Julio Jones yup no talent at all. you call me a homer but, you just hate him because he played for ohio state.

[Truck_1_0_1_]

Originally Posted by fozzie11

robiskie and posey are two completely different talents and think about it he drops passes, because he gets excited about being able to score, because he just scorched the guy covering him. i think if he could learn to settle down and concentrate which should come with maturation then he could be a very good #2 i'm not saying we should draft him in the first or second but if he is there in the 4th and have signed a vet guy that he can learn from he could do very well. in my opinion he is the best receiver to come out of OSU since holmes. alot of people on these forums expect to draft a guy that will be instantly better than simpson when in reality most receivers take a few years to mature and play well in this league not everyone can be A.J green.

Really man?

[eoxyod]

Originally Posted by fozzie11

yeah, he didn't come out of highschool as the 3rd WR in the nation behind A.J Green and Julio Jones yup no talent at all. you call me a homer but, you just hate him because he played for ohio state.

I don't think I've ever expressed hatred for any college team. That, and even if I hated a college team, it wouldn't effect any thoutson a specific player. Buuuut, I don't know why I'm arguing with a person who thinks everyone their college puts in the NFL ****** gold