David DeCastro

[ballsofsteel]

Originally Posted by mrcommish<2009>

Geno Atkins will take DeGodstro to school in both games . no competition in the Pac 12 , he was overrated .

Who is Geno Akins? That isn't clay akins brother is it? Who is Degodstro? Does he work for the bengals. Someone should take you to school so you can learn to spell.

[GreggyDigital]

Originally Posted by SociopathicSteelerFan

I am convinced you either have a learning disability or you just make up the contents of other people's posts.

Sadly, both.

[BigPapaKain]

Originally Posted by ballsofsteel

Who is Geno Akins? That isn't clay akins brother is it? Who is Degodstro? Does he work for the bengals. Someone should take you to school so you can learn to spell.

Insulting someone on their lack of spelling ability while unable to use proper grammar and punctuation and telling them to go back to school.

Ironic post is ironic.

[Woodley]

Originally Posted by GreggyDigital

You didn't answer the question.

Good luck with that...beaker can only answer questions with multiple choice answers.
True or False is even better.

[Beaker]

Originally Posted by Woodley

Good luck with that...beaker can only answer questions with multiple choice answers.
True or False is even better.

Q: Is woodley's mom easy?
A: true

Youre right woodley...I can answer those.

[Woodley]

Originally Posted by Beaker

Q: Is woodley's mom easy?
A: true

Youre right woodley...I can answer those.

Just because she used you as a tampon once doesn't mean she's easy.

I will give you no credit...you fail.

[ballsofsteel]

Originally Posted by Beaker

Q: Is woodley's mom easy?
A: true

Youre right woodley...I can answer those.

Your mom is pretty hot

[SteelCitySouth]

Originally Posted by BigPapaKain

Insulting someone on their lack of spelling ability while unable to use proper grammar and punctuation, all the while, telling them to go back to school.

Ironic post is ironic.

The above highlighted is a fragment sentence.


P.S. I don't care Papa Vein...

[DWright]

Originally Posted by ballsofsteel

Who is Geno Akins? That isn't clay akins brother is it? Who is Degodstro? Does he work for the bengals. Someone should take you to school so you can learn to spell.

The point he was trying to make was that DeCastro has only faced one, I repeat ONE, defensive tackle taken in the whole 2012 draft. I believe the Steelers also drafted that tackle, and I wouldn't exactly call Ta'amu anything other than a big body to take up space.

[Asmith(DE)]

Originally Posted by DWright

I wouldn't exactly call Ta'amu anything other than a big body to take up space.

Is that supposed to be smack?

RE: Definition of a 3-4 Nose tackle. A fat ******* whom you could care less if he makes more than 10 tackles or has any sacks at all. Should take up as much space as possible. The more space he takes up, the better he is. The position, along with 5techniques, can be All-Pro while having less than 20 tackles and 0 sacks. (5tech, should have a few sacks but not too many, 5ish is a pretty good number for 5s)

This is an oversimplified explanation. However, it's entirely based on scheme and is why you cannot compare these 3-4 Dlinemen to their 4-3 counterparts.

[GreggyDigital]

Originally Posted by DWright

The point he was trying to make was that DeCastro has only faced one, I repeat ONE, defensive tackle taken in the whole 2012 draft. I believe the Steelers also drafted that tackle, and I wouldn't exactly call Ta'amu anything other than a big body to take up space.

Yeah, how about other drafts? Like Brian Price from UCLA (35th pick of the 2010 draft)

Does he count?

[Wet Crevice]

Originally Posted by DWright

The point he was trying to make was that DeCastro has only faced one, I repeat ONE, defensive tackle taken in the whole 2012 draft. I believe the Steelers also drafted that tackle, and I wouldn't exactly call Ta'amu anything other than a big body to take up space.

Good point. Zeitler will be facing devon still again in practice.

[Wet Crevice]

Originally Posted by Asmith(DE)

What a dumb argument. Are you really this stupid? Rhetorical

Explain. What does passing on decastro twice tell you about how the bengals rated him?

[Wet Crevice]

Originally Posted by 6andcounting

So your saying the Bengals thought more highly of a 3rd round pick + Zeiler (who they were confident would not be gone at 27) than DeCastro. That's what everyone has been saying.

Even you admitt when they traded back they willingly passed on DeCastro. They knew he would be gone by 27. They were willing to trade down meaning they thought a 3rd round pick + Zeiler at 27 was equal at worst, but likely better than just drafting DeCastro. Of course Zeiler + a potential Hines Ward or Mike Wallace would be better than just DeCastro. But you don't understand why the Bengals would want to have 2 top 93 draft picks instead of just one.

You can't ignore the fact that the Bengals got an extra 3rd round pick. Your tried comparing DeCastro and Zeiler based on the fact that the Bengals thought a 3rd round pick + Zeiler was smarter than just DeCastro.

Some of you are saying they thought decastro would be there. None of you have a straight story except to say decastro > zeitler.

As i said, if the bengals had targeted decastro, they would have drafted him. The bengals are offered to trade down every year but they hardly ever do because they target a player and take him. AJ green is a great example.

You don't factor in draft picks when comparing two players.

[Wet Crevice]

Originally Posted by GreggyDigital

Yeah, how about other drafts? Like Brian Price from UCLA (35th pick of the 2010 draft)

Does he count?

Is that the one he gave a sack to? Bad example.

[Wet Crevice]

Originally Posted by 6andcounting

And how do you conclude the Bengals passing on DeCastro to add a 3rd round pick means they thought more highly of Zeiler than DeCastro? That lacks logic. If anything, you should be comparing Decastro with Zeiler + a 3rd round pick. They passed on him twice to trade down and add a 3rd round pick. How did they know Zeiler would still be there at 27? Unless they felt he wasn't that good of a prospect and would surely still be there. There's no way they thought DeCastro would fall to 27, but they were confident enough that Zeiler would be there. In your mind that means the Bengals thought they were equal talent.

This is the last time I'm going to say this....

I never said the bengals rated zeitler higher than decastro. I've said they rated them equally.

A potentially good player in the third round doesn't mean you pass on an obviously great player in the first round. That's idiocy.

Unless there's two great players you want and you know one will be there.

[GreggyDigital]

Originally Posted by Wet Crevice

Is that the one he gave a sack to? Bad example.

Lol. He gave up one sack to the 35th pick of the draft (1st team All-American. Pac 10 Defensive Player of the Year) his FRESHMAN year and that's a bad example.

[Wet Crevice]

If none of you want to say the zeitler pick was a reach, then i'm cool with saying decastro is 3 mid-twenties draft slots better than zeitler.


nfl.com says zeitler was the best pick of the best draft
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...module=HP11_cp

[Wet Crevice]

Originally Posted by GreggyDigital

Lol. He gave up one sack to the 35th pick of the draft (1st team All-American. Pac 10 Defensive Player of the Year) his FRESHMAN year and that's a bad example.

If that's the only DT of note he's faced, then yes it is.

[GreggyDigital]

Originally Posted by Wet Crevice

If that's the only DT of note he's faced, then yes it is.

Get on your main and I'll debate you on this.

[6andcounting]

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/pos...anted-decastro

Good read why the Steelers couldn't trade up. Ends all the draft speculation. Bengals did think higher of Zeiler than DeCastro.

[BigPapaKain]

Originally Posted by 6andcounting

[url]Bengals did think higher of Zeiler than DeCastro.

I think that got said about 100 times in the past 20 pages of nonsense. However, thank you for providing that link - personally I find it funny that the Jets got denied their player. I am slightly saddened that the Steelers could've been forced to give something up for someone they got anyways. Ah well; win some lose some I guess.

[Whatever]

Originally Posted by GreggyDigital

Yeah, how about other drafts? Like Brian Price from UCLA (35th pick of the 2010 draft)

Does he count?

Price played UT at UCLA. In a typical 4-3 alignment,the UT lines up directly over the LG,and DeCastro plays RG,so DeCastro might have had to block Price on a handful of snaps,at best.

[GreggyDigital]

Originally Posted by Whatever

Price played UT at UCLA. In a typical 4-3 alignment,the UT lines up directly over the LG,and DeCastro plays RG,so DeCastro might have had to block Price on a handful of snaps,at best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irQMYESMEaY

I watched the first 5 minutes or but he seems to line up on the RG slightly more than LG. So, no. It wasn't a handful of snaps.

Anyways, this is stupid. Saying he didn't play anyone in the PAC10/12 is moronic.

He's not the overall best prospect at his position because he couldn't inline block.

[Wet Crevice]

Originally Posted by GreggyDigital

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irQMYESMEaY

I watched the first 5 minutes or but he seems to line up on the RG slightly more than LG. So, no. It wasn't a handful of snaps.

Anyways, this is stupid. Saying he didn't play anyone in the PAC10/12 is moronic.

He's not the overall best prospect at his position because he couldn't inline block.

He got that label by running and blocking in space.

Guards don't get famous but the ones that do pull. Inline blockers get lost in a mass of humanity.



And the bengals didn't see decastro as the best overall...