Decastro Struggles

[GreggyDigital]

Originally Posted by BigPapaKain

That's not entirely true. It's been a common misconception that the Colts had a good offensive line during Peyton Manning's heyday. The truth, however, is that Manning had the ability to get rid of the ball so quick so it made his line look like they never give up pressure.

Just saying.

I guess a perceived good pass blocking line. The Colts mostly struggled to run the ball, even with Peyton at the helm.

It would more than likely as soon as Peyton went down that team was going to struggle.

[Wet Crevice]

On draft day steeler fans said the bengals screwed themselves and that zeitler isn't even in decastro's league.


Now it's "Zeitler might be better"

[GreggyDigital]

Originally Posted by Wet Crevice

On draft day steeler fans said the bengals screwed themselves and that zeitler isn't even in decastro's league.


Now it's "Zeitler might be better"

No, he could be better. Mostly if DeCastro blows a knee or something of that variety.

[Wet Crevice]

Originally Posted by DWright

slightly off topic Are Steelers fans worried that Luck pushed DeCastro up the boards a bit? Like he did Fleener. Not smack legitimate concern, because its one I know I have about Dre Kirkpatrick. Was it really Dre looking good or was it the over all defense. I know the guy barely had to play zone coverage.

Luck pushed him up a little but what really did it is the nature of decastro's blocks.

A big guy running down field and hitting linebackers is about as much glory as a lineman can get. decastro did that a lot. Meanwhile zeitler mostly blocked inline and got lost in the mass of humanity.

[Wet Crevice]

Originally Posted by GreggyDigital

No, he could be better. Mostly if DeCastro blows a knee or something of that variety.

Or continues to struggle, either one.

[Wet Crevice]

Since steeler fans are pretty famous for not being from Pennsylvania, they probably haven't watched much big ten football and didn't see much of zeitler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phahBI8uxKw

There he is playing against penn state, who had a very good D line including devon still, now currently a bengal.

Zeitler received a perfect grade for that game. That doesn't happen much.

[SociopathicSteelerFan]

Originally Posted by Wet Crevice

On draft day steeler fans said the bengals screwed themselves and that zeitler isn't even in decastro's league.


Now it's "Zeitler might be better"

lol, who said that?

[Patrick D from 83]

Originally Posted by Wet Crevice

Since steeler fans are pretty famous for not being from Pennsylvania, they probably haven't watched much big ten football and didn't see much of zeitler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phahBI8uxKw

There he is playing against penn state, who had a very good D line including devon still, now currently a bengal.

Zeitler received a perfect grade for that game. That doesn't happen much.

That should be called the Montee Ball Highlight tape since there was not a single pass blocking highlight in there, unless u count a shovel pass.

You know that the Bengals had more passing attempts than rushing attempts last year right? It's a passing league now after all.

[DWright]

Originally Posted by Patrick D from 83

That should be called the Montee Ball Highlight tape since there was not a single pass blocking highlight in there, unless u count a shovel pass.

You know that the Bengals had more passing attempts than rushing attempts last year right? It's a passing league now after all.

In all fairness a Pass pro snap would have to pretty amazing to be considered a Highlight. Your going to always see running plays for offensive linemen highlights because its just more fun to watch them push the dline around than stand infront of one.

[SociopathicSteelerFan]

Originally Posted by DWright

In all fairness a Pass pro snap would have to pretty amazing to be considered a Highlight. Your going to always see running plays for offensive linemen highlights because its just more fun to watch them push the dline around than stand infront of one.

Complete BS. I can find a highlight clip of Decastro or Adams in pass pro. That would be the difference between a real football fan's analysis and the kind of BSPN/Fantasy football analysis that suits 99% of the NFL's fanbase.

[Patrick D from 83]

Originally Posted by DWright

In all fairness a Pass pro snap would have to pretty amazing to be considered a Highlight. Your going to always see running plays for offensive linemen highlights because its just more fun to watch them push the dline around than stand infront of one.

Well I think pass blocking is more important in today's NFL than run blocking the way the league is now. And you could throw some pass blocks in there easily, a few pancakes or what.

[DWright]

Originally Posted by SociopathicSteelerFan

Complete BS. I can find a highlight clip of Decastro or Adams in pass pro. That would be the difference between a real football fan's analysis and the kind of BSPN/Fantasy football analysis that suits 99% of the NFL's fanbase.

I didnt say you can't find a clip here and there, but for every 1 highlight for pass pro theres 5 for run blocking. Run blocking just looks better on a highlight reel.

[Wet Crevice]

Originally Posted by Patrick D from 83

That should be called the Montee Ball Highlight tape since there was not a single pass blocking highlight in there, unless u count a shovel pass.

You know that the Bengals had more passing attempts than rushing attempts last year right? It's a passing league now after all.

He gave up 8 pressures, 2 hits, and 0 sacks all year.

The AFCN might be the last bastion of traditional football. Zeitler's run blocking is off the charts. Perfect fit for the bengals.

[Wet Crevice]

Hey steeler fans, do you respect Ed Bouchette's opinion?

He says Decastro is struggling too.

No mincing of words, he says flat out struggling:

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/...le-647933/?p=0

My apologies if this was posted already. I hate browsing threads.

[Wet Crevice]

Perhaps it was lack of competition in the PAC-10 that's made decastro soft?

"Zeitler had to go against Devon Still (2nd Rd.) Jerel Worthy (2nd rd.) Mike Martin (3rd rd.) Johnathan Hankins (1st rd. 2013) Kawaan Short ( likely 2nd rd. 2013) and Jordan Hill ( likely 3rd rd. 2013). That’s not even counting the guys he went up against as a junior.

DeCastro had Ta’amu (4th rd) he didn’t get a chance to play the best DT in the PAC-12 Utah Star Lotulelei (likely top 15 2013)"


I'd also add that if he's struggling physically in training camp, game speed/strength/technique is going to be very shocking to him.

[SociopathicSteelerFan]

Originally Posted by Wet Crevice

Hey steeler fans, do you respect Ed Bouchette's opinion?

No.

[GreggyDigital]

Originally Posted by SociopathicSteelerFan

No.

Lol

Ed loves the smell of his own farts.

[GreggyDigital]

Originally Posted by Wet Crevice

Perhaps it was lack of competition in the PAC-10 that's made decastro soft?

"Zeitler had to go against Devon Still (2nd Rd.) Jerel Worthy (2nd rd.) Mike Martin (3rd rd.) Johnathan Hankins (1st rd. 2013) Kawaan Short ( likely 2nd rd. 2013) and Jordan Hill ( likely 3rd rd. 2013). That’s not even counting the guys he went up against as a junior.

DeCastro had Ta’amu (4th rd) he didn’t get a chance to play the best DT in the PAC-12 Utah Star Lotulelei (likely top 15 2013)"


I'd also add that if he's struggling physically in training camp, game speed/strength/technique is going to be very shocking to him.

We talked about this in the other thread. They actually played very similar competition based on draft picks.

Go look it up to educate yourself and go find that SSF quote while you're at it.

[Wet Crevice]

Originally Posted by GreggyDigital

We talked about this in the other thread. They actually played very similar competition based on draft picks.

Go look it up to educate yourself and go find that SSF quote while you're at it.

Then one wonders why in the limited physical contact of training camp, that he's struggling physically.

I'm sure you have a well thought out answer and not a simple, dismissive one.

[Amanda]

Originally Posted by Wet Crevice

Then one wonders why in the limited physical contact of training camp, that he's struggling physically.

I'm sure you have a well thought out answer and not a simple, dismissive one.

Still waiting on you to find SSF's quote

[GreggyDigital]

Originally Posted by Wet Crevice

Then one wonders why in the limited physical contact of training camp, that he's struggling physically.

I'm sure you have a well thought out answer and not a simple, dismissive one.

Because most reports were of his first 3 days in camp after missing all of the rookie camp.

Did you not read where his offensive line coach said he has improved dramatically over the last 5 days, enjoys where he is at, and is starting his first preseason game? You did quote it.

Still waiting on that SSF quote, btw.

[Wet Crevice]

Originally Posted by GreggyDigital

Because most reports were of his first 3 days in camp after missing all of the rookie camp.

Did you not read where his offensive line coach said he has improved dramatically over the last 5 days, enjoys where he is at, and is starting his first preseason game? You did quote it.

Still waiting on that SSF quote, btw.

ed bouchette's report was on the first 10 days of camp. not 3.

And his coach? LoL.

When paul alexander said they rated decastro and zeitler equally, steeler fans said it was BS.

[GreggyDigital]

Originally Posted by Wet Crevice

ed bouchette's report was on the first 10 days of camp. not 3.

And his coach? LoL.

When paul alexander said they rated decastro and zeitler equally, steeler fans said it was BS.

SteelersfanSLC: Any reason to be concerned about DeCastro yet?

Ed Bouchette: No. What everyone saw in him at Stanford doesn't just disappear. He'll be ok.

Ed says to stop being stupid.

Still waiting on that quote.

[Wet Crevice]

Originally Posted by Wet Crevice

We wouldn't have ended up with Zeitler if they weren't comparable. We would have drafted decastro. Why does that escape you?

Originally Posted by SociopathicSteelerFan

You took a risk that we would take Hightower instead of DeCastro, your risk didn't pay off. Hence you and lovenuts scrambling to tell us how much better Zeitler is.

Originally Posted by Wet Crevice

here's what I remember. You said the bengals wanted decastro but gambled that he would still be there at 27, because they thought the steelers would take hightower. When the steelers took decastro the bengals panicked and took zeitler out of desperation.

Sound about right?

yup

[Wet Crevice]

Originally Posted by GreggyDigital

Ed says to stop being stupid.

Still waiting on that quote.

lol so you DO respect his opinion....when it suits you.