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Default Anyone know if Collins has been getting any reps at Guard?

I remember the Bengals wanted to try him at Guard last year, but he didn't want it.

With the spot open for an entire year, it seems like he'd be open to it rather than sitting the bench...
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I believe that Marvin said that they did try Anthony Collins out at guard last year during practice, but they didnt like him there
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I really like Collins, but his time here is running out. He could be starting on a few other teams as tackle, but being stuck behind Whitworth and Smith; he has no chance. Good depth though.
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Yes, they did try Anthony Collins out at guard last year, Marvin said that "didn't quite understand it."
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Just my opinion, but he plays too high and just isn't enough of a "strength" player to play on the inside. He is an athletic tackle who slides well...I just don't think he could move anybody on the inside in the run game.
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It is much easier to find someone to fill in at G, than it is at T. Anthony Collins is the first backup at both LT and RT, I highly doubt that the coaching staff would think about putting him at G right now.

Everyone with eyes can tell that AC would make an excellent G, but he just doesn't want to play that position. Seems kinda stubborn to me, he could possibly make more as a starter, but yet chooses to remain a backup.
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It is much easier to find someone to fill in at G, than it is at T. Anthony Collins is the first backup at both LT and RT, I highly doubt that the coaching staff would think about putting him at G right now.

Everyone with eyes can tell that AC would make an excellent G, but he just doesn't want to play that position. Seems kinda stubborn to me, he could possibly make more as a starter, but yet chooses to remain a backup.
He apparently likes to cash them checks while chilling on the sideline.
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I guess the results weren't so great when we tried that move previously. This isn't the first year that we've thrown his name out as a candidate at guard...or the second. He usually steps up when his name is called at tackle.

However, I'm pretty sure I watched him get blown up by Couples a few times last night and saw his number behind the play against the 2nd and 3rd teamers.
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I really like Collins, but his time here is running out. He could be starting on a few other teams as tackle, but being stuck behind Whitworth and Smith; he has no chance. Good depth though.
He was a free agent and no teams signed him. He re-signed her for a 2 year deal.

If he had ANY starting options...he would have taken them.
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He was a free agent and no teams signed him. He re-signed her for a 2 year deal.

If he had ANY starting options...he would have taken them.
Him comming back surprised me and he resigned really quickly, especially after getting called out by ML for not wanting to play guard (a position that we really needed filled). I figured Cleaveland or St Louis wouldve been a good fit they are both pretty this at OL and couldve competed for a starting job.
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I'm glad you started this thread because Marvin NEVER talks injuries, but he said guard Wharton probably lost for 2012, which means he is, considering Marvin almost never talks injuries. So what are the other options now ???

I say, why not practice Collins at guard, and some of our other back-up tackles and centers. Nothing as strange as other positions, but O linemen are O linemen. Maybe all the back-up O lineman should get a try at guard in practice before they get cut.

Then there are undrafted guards. Did the Bengals have anybody at guard on their boards who just wasn't drafted by anybody ?

But the option I'ld like to see is Bengals watching the players teams cut in the last week or two of preseason. The final cuts. These are players that almost made other teams. Final cuts. We could possibly find a veteran guard who lost his job to a top rookie or vise versa. When we cut Willie Anderson, Ravens were glad to sign him. Maybe a team cuts a guy because he is old and not the long range future and that could be our guy because we only need him in 2012. Possibly a guy Bengals let go who they may not mind back now. Somebody on here mentioned Steinbach this off season, Marvin mentioned Williams, maybe something like that is worth a try if they become available and healthy. But I think we can do even better when teams make final cuts.

But I like your idea of trying Collins or other O linemen sitting on the bench because I think we are more loaded at tackle than guard. Whitworth has started at left guard, and maybe a tackle can play left tackle, but I'm not crazy about that idea because left tackle is so important and Whitworth is pretty good. The simplest would be if our guards step up, but I agree, why not give some back-up O lineman some practice time at guard. Thats why you have back-up O lineman, to go in and play center, guard or tackle if somebody goes down in a game.

I'm not saying Boling and Zeitler aren't the guys this year, but even they need back-ups in case, Yikes, they get injured.
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I'm glad you started this thread because Marvin NEVER talks injuries, but he said guard Wharton probably lost for 2012, which means he is, considering Marvin almost never talks injuries. So what are the other options now ???

I say, why not practice Collins at guard, and some of our other back-up tackles and centers. Nothing as strange as other positions, but O linemen are O linemen. Maybe all the back-up O lineman should get a try at guard in practice before they get cut.

Then there are undrafted guards. Did the Bengals have anybody at guard on their boards who just wasn't drafted by anybody ?

But the option I'ld like to see is Bengals watching the players teams cut in the last week or two of preseason. The final cuts. These are players that almost made other teams. Final cuts. We could possibly find a veteran guard who lost his job to a top rookie or vise versa. When we cut Willie Anderson, Ravens were glad to sign him. Maybe a team cuts a guy because he is old and not the long range future and that could be our guy because we only need him in 2012.

But I like your idea of trying Collins or other O linemen sitting on the bench because I think we are more loaded at tackle than guard. Whitworth has started at left guard, and maybe a tackle can play left tackle, but I'm not crazy about that idea because left tackle is so important and Whitworth is pretty good. The simplest would be if our guards step up, but I agree, why not give some back-up O lineman some practice time at guard.
hey brothers, this is the 40 year fan giving a shout out. was really freaked out to watch and hear about all the injuries in the pickin first game. its nuts. seems like our team is cursed at times.5 starters getting hurt before the half. crazy.believe this, all these injuries will have an impact on going forward.its just crazy. i just don't know what to say anymore, trying to stay positive, but losing wharton is a huge deal. no one will be able to replace him and be as effective. it takes time and he was a great player.clint boling will be okay, but i fear dalton will be running for his life AGAIN THIS YEAR.and for dunlap to mess up his knee, i believe this will bother him into the season.it was a bad bad sprain. how can you not feel this team is doomed from the start when this crap happens.its hard to take. i have seen tons of injuries over the years. seems like it just keeps on coming. we shall see as they say, but with this happening, i feel we are going to have a average season. dunlap and rey going down is big time for the defense. even if they can bring in a guy to replace wharton, it will take time for that guy to adjust and there is no stud out there to be the man next to whit. i fear for dalton now. its just a pickin shame. i hope i am so wrong, but we shall see.other than the injuries, which is unbelieveable to me, the rest of the team looked good. dalton had better play super good in atlanta, i want to see some time-eating drives and touchdowes.the steelers and ravens looked very good. just sayin. with our tuff schedule, i am picking a 8-8 or at best 9-7 season. i hope i am wrong. would love to win the division and make the dance. i will be hoping and praying it will be a great year. went to practice tuesday. almost died of the heat down there. it was 110 degrees on the field. that was hard to take. i drank a ton of water and was super hot.was fun to see all the players and get pics though.
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hey brothers, this is the 40 year fan giving a shout out. was really freaked out to watch and hear about all the injuries in the pickin first game. its nuts. seems like our team is cursed at times.5 starters getting hurt before the half. crazy.believe this, all these injuries will have an impact on going forward.its just crazy. i just don't know what to say anymore, trying to stay positive, but losing wharton is a huge deal. no one will be able to replace him and be as effective. it takes time and he was a great player.clint boling will be okay, but i fear dalton will be running for his life AGAIN THIS YEAR.and for dunlap to mess up his knee, i believe this will bother him into the season.it was a bad bad sprain. how can you not feel this team is doomed from the start when this crap happens.its hard to take. i have seen tons of injuries over the years. seems like it just keeps on coming. we shall see as they say, but with this happening, i feel we are going to have a average season. dunlap and rey going down is big time for the defense. even if they can bring in a guy to replace wharton, it will take time for that guy to adjust and there is no stud out there to be the man next to whit. i fear for dalton now. its just a pickin shame. i hope i am so wrong, but we shall see.other than the injuries, which is unbelieveable to me, the rest of the team looked good. dalton had better play super good in atlanta, i want to see some time-eating drives and touchdowes.the steelers and ravens looked very good. just sayin. with our tuff schedule, i am picking a 8-8 or at best 9-7 season. i hope i am wrong. would love to win the division and make the dance. i will be hoping and praying it will be a great year. went to practice tuesday. almost died of the heat down there. it was 110 degrees on the field. that was hard to take. i drank a ton of water and was super hot.was fun to see all the players and get pics though.
I'm not giving up on the season at all. Not at all....Blocking is blocking. I agree, try Collins in practice as a back-up, and other back-up O lineman. I think we will pick up a decent guard in the final cuts, somebody that almost made an NFL team as a guard, maybe somebody thats a veteran with experience. Hey, we got rid of Montoya and he went on to go to Pro Bowls with Raiders. Maybe we can be so lucky when teams make final cuts. ....Not giving up on season at all. Not at all.....Lets round em' up and move em' out.
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Him comming back surprised me and he resigned really quickly, especially after getting called out by ML for not wanting to play guard (a position that we really needed filled). I figured Cleaveland or St Louis wouldve been a good fit they are both pretty this at OL and couldve competed for a starting job.
There was atleast 1 Tackle that was better than him that lasted a long time in free agency too. It's almost like Guards are starting to become as important than Tackles.
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I'm not giving up on the season at all. Not at all....Blocking is blocking. I agree, try Collins in practice as a back-up, and other back-up O lineman. I think we will pick up a decent guard in the final cuts, somebody that almost made an NFL team as a guard, maybe somebody thats a veteran with experience. Hey, we got rid of Montoya and he went on to go to Pro Bowls with Raiders. Maybe we can be so lucky when teams make final cuts. ....Not giving up on season at all. Not at all.....Lets round em' up and move em' out.
Teams face injuries. EVERY TEAM.

All of the people gloating over the Steelers, Ravens, and Browns misfortunes should have realized this.
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Good News.... Rotoworld. com had us rated 3rd best O line going into 2012 due to our depth....... Collins, Boling, Roland, Bell have 149 combined games of playing time. Also Otis Hudson. That if somebody got injured, we had great depth., per Rotoworld.com....who I got asking Google " 2012 NFL O line rankings. " We were 3rd behind Packers and Patriots. ......So, I think if we can get a decent player cut in the final cuts before regular season, we can get our depth back before regular season. This will be an O Lineman who a team almost kept, so it means he was in training camp and preseason so he should be in shape and would just need work with our playbook. A guy cut from a very good O line may be good. I'm not sure of good guards on the bubble for which teams. I'm sure there are some. Or could be a big name center or tackle to add great depth......

So the good news is we were rated as a top O line already with good depth. The good depth is now needing more depth, and when teams make final cuts we can add to the depth lost by left guard out for season.

Maybe we aren't rated at # 3 in NFL at this point with left guard out for season, but we sure as heck aren't last. This is still a deep and talented O Line. Boling, Bell and Hudson were listed as guards, so there is still depth and talent. I agree with original start of thread, why not give Collins and/ or Roland some practice time at guard in case they are needed there at some point.

Had we been rated a bad O line, it would be devastating, but since we were list #3, we should overcome this. Could be, Boling fits in between Whitworth and Cook very well.

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As for Rey, he may be fine, and Skuta and Burfict and other LBs really flying to the football....interceptions, blocked punts, QB sacks, tackles.
As for DE, Marvin doesn't talk much about injuries. Losing Geathers and Dunlop would hurt, but until I hear otherwise, I'm going to assume they will be back since Marvin don't tweet injuries. ( this may be another area we need to watch other teams final cuts ).
As for safety Mays, possible concussion, I look for him to be back.
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