Official 2012 Reds Thread

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by whodey1302

He has not shown that he can pitch out of the bullpen. And Billy Hamilton isn't eligible for the playoff roster either. He would've had to be on the 25 man roster at midnight on Aug 31st. I just don't think he makes it.

Unless of course there is an injury.
Then anyone could replace someone.

[whodey1302]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

Unless of course there is an injury.
Then anyone could replace someone.

He already could because of and Massett. But, IMO, he'd already be here in September if he were coming. He has been caught stealing more at AA and the pick off moves in the Majors would be something he's never seen before.

While his speed is certainly his greatest asset, it would be almost reckless up here. He's not a lock to steal every base he tries. Let him develop and don't rush him.

[whodey1302]

Did anyone else think the Reds just didn't look interested last night? I got that vibe from the first inning on.

[7sLefty]

Originally Posted by whodey1302

Did anyone else think the Reds just didn't look interested last night? I got that vibe from the first inning on.

Yes!!!! They should have the killer instinct bc st Louis is not going away...they were down more than this last yr and came back

[Ron Mexico]

Originally Posted by whodey1302

Did anyone else think the Reds just didn't look interested last night? I got that vibe from the first inning on.

They just had a rough night. Trust me,....they're not dis-interested. They're on the home stretch of a division winning season and from time to time, they'll have a bad game.

[Bengals Mike]

Last night had to be as low as you can get in a loss - having Chapman of all people blow it in the 9th against the worst team in baseball on your own home field

[jmccracky]

Arroyo got his 5th win in a row. Marshall still has a 2-something ERA.

Bruce has been playing very well lately. The thing about Bruce is, I just wish he could be more consistent with his offense. He is either really hot, or really cold. And this is something that has plagued him throughout his young career. Right now he is batting .266 That is not too bad. I would be stoked to see him bat a little over .270 He has such an awesome swing. The ball just seems to jump off his bat. Kind of like Griffey (I said "kind of!"). When he hits a home run, it goes out of the park really fast. He's also a defensive machine with his arm. I know that I've been harsh on the kid, but I'm also happy watching him play.

[Ron Mexico]

Why do the Reds keep losing to the worst team in baseball? Good thing the Astros aren't making the playoffs....

[rfaulk34]

Originally Posted by Johnny Cupcakes

Why do the Reds keep losing to the worst team in baseball? Good thing the Astros aren't making the playoffs....

Because anyone that thought the Reds were going to win 100 games and Cueto was going to win 20+ and they were going to go into the post season on a hot streak is kidding themselves. It's the way Cincinnati sports teams work. Come out strong or play strong in the middle, ease into post season playing mediocre ball and then bow out weakly.

Cincinnati sports teams....Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

[NashvilleBengalfan]

Originally Posted by rfaulk34

Because anyone that thought the Reds were going to win 100 games and Cueto was going to win 20+ and they were going to go into the post season on a hot streak is kidding themselves. It's the way Cincinnati sports teams work. Come out strong or play strong in the middle, ease into post season playing mediocre ball and then bow out weakly.

Cincinnati sports teams....Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

Personally I think this is the time to go on a losing streak.... then next week they will start to pick it up.... Right in time for the playoffs.....

[dr1441]

Originally Posted by NashvilleBengalfan

Personally I think this is the time to go on a losing streak.... then next week they will start to pick it up.... Right in time for the playoffs.....

Unfortunately what Faulk said is true.

I hope you are right but I am afraid that we aren't going to gel like we did while Votto was out and go into the playoffs limping in.

Just a fear, I hope I'm wrong.

[Ali]

Pretty embarassing things said by some supposed fans.

Among qualifiers:
Johnny Cueto has the 3rd most wins in MLB, 1 off the mark for most (17)
Johnny Cueto has the 4th best ERA in MLB, .17 off the mark (2.71)

Joey Votto would be leading the majors in BA if he were a qualifier.

The Reds lost 2 out of 3 and one of those was a major fluke. The other guy showed he was human by having a rough outing.

Get over it. It happens.

To get to 100 wins, the reds need to finish the year 16-5. Not undoable, but tough.

To get to 95 wins, the reds need to go 11-10. They are likely somewhere in between there like I had said for some time. Guess what...If they win 97 games, I'll be just as happy as I would if they win 100.

As far as 20 wins for Johnny? He needs to win 3 out of his next 4 or 5 decisions (depending on whether or not Dusty rests him for the last couple of games to make sure he goes game #1)

Again. Doable.

It just ****** me off that the Reds, owners of the 2nd best record in all of baseball (even with a month and a half of their BEST PLAYER being injured) have whiney fans crying about what they perceive as "likely happening" because they've seen the Bengals give it up.

As if the Bengals past in any way affects the Reds.

Or as though a young and inexperienced squad who shocked everyone getting into the playoffs and then subsequently getting swept by an exponentially superior team 2 years ago will "bow out weakly."

[dr1441]

Originally Posted by Ali

Pretty embarassing things said by some supposed fans.

Among qualifiers:
Johnny Cueto has the 3rd most wins in MLB, 1 off the mark for most (17)
Johnny Cueto has the 4th best ERA in MLB, .17 off the mark (2.71)

Joey Votto would be leading the majors in BA if he were a qualifier.

The Reds lost 2 out of 3 and one of those was a major fluke. The other guy showed he was human by having a rough outing.

Get over it. It happens.

To get to 100 wins, the reds need to finish the year 16-5. Not undoable, but tough.

To get to 95 wins, the reds need to go 11-10. They are likely somewhere in between there like I had said for some time. Guess what...If they win 97 games, I'll be just as happy as I would if they win 100.

As far as 20 wins for Johnny? He needs to win 3 out of his next 4 or 5 decisions (depending on whether or not Dusty rests him for the last couple of games to make sure he goes game #1)

Again. Doable.

It just ****** me off that the Reds, owners of the 2nd best record in all of baseball (even with a month and a half of their BEST PLAYER being injured) have whiney fans crying about what they perceive as "likely happening" because they've seen the Bengals give it up.

As if the Bengals past in any way affects the Reds.

Or as though a young and inexperienced squad who shocked everyone getting into the playoffs and then subsequently getting swept by an exponentially superior team 2 years ago will "bow out weakly."

Do you need anymore excuses or do you feel that was sufficient for losing games to the worst team in baseball?

Let me guess, everyone has bad weekends as well?

[whodey1302]

Originally Posted by dr1441

Do you need anymore excuses or do you feel that was sufficient for losing games to the worst team in baseball?

Let me guess, everyone has bad weekends as well?

How much baseball do you watch? Not much I would assume. On the season, the Reds had a .667 winning percentage against the Astros.

Cueto had a rough outing where everything he threw was hittable. Starts like those are gonna happen. Probably 4 or 5 times a year. That was Cueto's second. I'm perfectly fine with Chapman's blown save now. I'd rather have him give up a blast to the last place Astros on September 7th versus an elimination playoff game on October 10th.

Baseball is a law of averages sport. They have the best bullpen in baseball, and arguably the most consistant starting staff. Votto's OBP since returning is something ridiculous like .688.

This team is fine. Are there weak spots and flaws? Of course. But I'd rather have the problems that the Reds have compared to the problems that most other teams have.

P.S. They have the biggest division lead in baseball thus resulting in the smallest magic number. Quit listening to Lance "doomsday" McAlister everyday.

[7sLefty]

Originally Posted by whodey1302

How much baseball do you watch? Not much I would assume. On the season, the Reds had a .667 winning percentage against the Astros.

Cueto had a rough outing where everything he threw was hittable. Starts like those are gonna happen. Probably 4 or 5 times a year. That was Cueto's second. I'm perfectly fine with Chapman's blown save now. I'd rather have him give up a blast to the last place Astros on September 7th versus an elimination playoff game on October 10th.

Baseball is a law of averages sport. They have the best bullpen in baseball, and arguably the most consistant starting staff. Votto's OBP since returning is something ridiculous like .688.

This team is fine. Are there weak spots and flaws? Of course. But I'd rather have the problems that the Reds have compared to the problems that most other teams have.

P.S. They have the biggest division lead in baseball thus resulting in the smallest magic

number. Quit listening to Lance "doomsday" McAlister everyday.

Not liking the looks of this team down the stretch!!! No excuses dusty says some of these guys need a break...hope they figure it out soon. 2 rough outings for cueto...offense has been non existent and the cards aren't just gonna roll over

[whodey1302]

Originally Posted by Boomerdaulton21

Not liking the looks of this team down the stretch!!! No excuses dusty says some of these guys need a break...hope they figure it out soon. 2 rough outings for cueto...offense has been non existent and the cards aren't just gonna roll over

The Cardinals WILL NOT catch the Reds for the Division title. Won't happen. I'm not saying that it can't happen, but I'm saying that it won't. If the Reds go 11-10 the rest of the way, St Louis would have to go 20-2 to tie. If the Reds completely fall apart and go 6-15, the Cardinals would have to go 15-7.

Again, none of these scenarios are impossible, and I know of last season's collapses by playoff bound teams, but it will not happen.

[dr1441]

Originally Posted by whodey1302

How much baseball do you watch? Not much I would assume. On the season, the Reds had a .667 winning percentage against the Astros.

Cueto had a rough outing where everything he threw was hittable. Starts like those are gonna happen. Probably 4 or 5 times a year. That was Cueto's second. I'm perfectly fine with Chapman's blown save now. I'd rather have him give up a blast to the last place Astros on September 7th versus an elimination playoff game on October 10th.

Baseball is a law of averages sport. They have the best bullpen in baseball, and arguably the most consistant starting staff. Votto's OBP since returning is something ridiculous like .688.

This team is fine. Are there weak spots and flaws? Of course. But I'd rather have the problems that the Reds have compared to the problems that most other teams have.

P.S. They have the biggest division lead in baseball thus resulting in the smallest magic number. Quit listening to Lance "doomsday" McAlister everyday.

Lol I watch everyday/night, played college baseball, and played my whole life.

Trust me, from being apart of them, slumps happen.

This has a slump in the making written all over it.

I hope I'm wrong, but fear I'm right.

[whodey1302]

Originally Posted by dr1441

Lol I watch everyday/night, played college baseball, and played my whole life.

Trust me, from being apart of them, slumps happen.

This has a slump in the making written all over it.

I hope I'm wrong, but fear I'm right.

Exactly. It's a slump. Nothing more, nothing less. They could slump for the next 20 days and still make the postseason.

Jay Bruce has slumps. He'll be streaky hot then streaky cold. Drew Stubbs, on the other hand, is just a bad hitter. There is a difference. Losing 2 of 3 to the Astros doesn't mean the Reds are a bad team.

[7sLefty]

Originally Posted by whodey1302

The Cardinals WILL NOT catch the Reds for the Division title. Won't happen. I'm not saying that it can't happen, but I'm saying that it won't. If the Reds go 11-10 the rest of the way, St Louis would have to go 20-2 to tie. If the Reds completely fall apart and go 6-15, the Cardinals would have to go 15-7.

Again, none of these scenarios are impossible, and I know of last season's collapses by playoff bound teams, but it will not happen.

Just wanna see us finish strong is all!!!

[whodey1302]

Originally Posted by Boomerdaulton21

Just wanna see us finish strong is all!!!

I agree. And I think they will. I want them to win 4 of their last 6 games of the regular season. And hopefully that will keep St Louis out of the playoffs. That would be fantastic.

[7sLefty]

Originally Posted by whodey1302

I agree. And I think they will. I want them to win 4 of their last 6 games of the regular season. And hopefully that will keep St Louis out of the playoffs. That would be fantastic.

For sure!!! Would like to see the offense get going...I think our pitching will be fine but only scoring 1 and 2 runs doesn't give your pitching much help!!

[dr1441]

Originally Posted by whodey1302

Exactly. It's a slump. Nothing more, nothing less. They could slump for the next 20 days and still make the postseason.

Jay Bruce has slumps. He'll be streaky hot then streaky cold. Drew Stubbs, on the other hand, is just a bad hitter. There is a difference. Losing 2 of 3 to the Astros doesn't mean the Reds are a bad team.

Slumps aren't good going into the playoffs though. If we slump for 20 days, we are going to go limping into the playoffs.

Not exactly good position to be in.

[whodey1302]

Originally Posted by dr1441

Slumps aren't good going into the playoffs though. If we slump for 20 days, we are going to go limping into the playoffs.

Not exactly good position to be in.

Slumps are never good to be in, but that's the way baseball is. This team has had exactly one 5 game losing streak all season. The 1990 Wire to Wire team had 3. And one of them lasted 8 games.

My guess is that the Reds will finish this stretch 13-8. 97-65 on the season and they'll be the 1 or 2 seed in the playoffs.

So many members of the local media are extremists with this team. They win 3 or 4 in a row and they are the new Big Red Machine. Lose 2 or 3 games or a series and they have holes all through the lineup, Votto isn't healthy, and Ludwick's season is over.

Sit back and enjoy it.

[Ali]

What a crazy game. Aside from an inning, Latos was exceptional. Wandy got very lucky in this game as most of the outs he had were hard hits.

Still, 14 innings and a win is great and Simon looked awful while loading the bases, then a stud while unloading them! Also awesome to take 2 off our magic number (12 for the NLC) by winning and having BOTH Pittsburgh & St. Louis lose!!!

Apparently Chapman has shoulder fatigue so don't expect to see much of him through the end of the year so as to preserve him for years to come and October. Let's hope for the best as he did look bad Friday as well with what I thought was decreased velocity and control.

And tonight's game was a little worse.

[/sp/artan]

Good game today. gonna need leake to pitch like that if the reds wanna go deep