And the refs finally cost a team a game

[bengalfan74]

Originally Posted by Blitzberg06

How does one have possession if he doesn't even touch the ball until it is controlled and held by the DB and as he is falling to the ground one puts their ONE hand on it once he hits the ground he his hugging the DB and not touching the ball at all.

Exactly !

1. Tate shoves off so blatantly a blind man would have called Offensive PI

2. Jennings intercepts the ball and has complete control and possession.

3. Tate is behind Jennings and simply puts his arm/hand around Jennings after the fact.

It's complete BS ! Not to mention that they completely changed field position for Seattle on that complete BS PI on their previous possession.

[BigPapaKain]

[WCStripes]

I saw this on a seahawk fan forum,

http://seahawks.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=51910

Does this picture change any minds? I admit it has me rethinking the play a little.

[ibengals]

Originally Posted by WCStripes

I saw this on a seahawk fan forum,

http://seahawks.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=51910

Does this picture change any minds? I admit it has me rethinking the play a little.

Still a PI, so it doesn't really matter.

[Joelist]

They also called Personal Foul Roughing the Passer for a leg tackle that was outside the pocket. Once the QB goes out of the pocket and is running - even throwing on the run - the "Carson Palmer" rule is not in effect. Without that call the game is already over as he threw a pick on that play.

[CKWI88]

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Originally Posted by WCStripes

I saw this on a seahawk fan forum,

http://seahawks.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=51910

Does this picture change any minds? I admit it has me rethinking the play a little.

Theyre on the ground, thats a lot of time for Jennings to catch the ball and tate wrestle it away after the fa t.

[Cin726]

[Who-Dey Girl]

Was it me or did anyone else catch Rodgers saying that they gave him a kicking ball to use for the two point conversion.

[noquicksnap1]

I posted this in jungle noise as well, but it makes more sense here. Sorry for duplication, if that breaks any message board rules....

The replacement refs are horrible, mostly because they don't know the rules. They are also very intimidated by the players and coaches. The league is saying that since the number of penalties is similar to last year, the officials are doing a good job. What? Really!?! The number of penalties called has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of officiating.

Green Bay was hosed on 3 horrible calls near the end of that game. While I am sure there were some bad calls the other way as well, ultimately a no call on OPI and a bad call on a "catch" did decide the outcome of that game.

The players are at fault for much of this as well because they admittedly are playing a MUCH rougher game and getting away with whatever they can. It's worse than a pick up basketball game.

Ultimately the game suffers, the league reputation suffers, the players may suffer (with some safety issues), the fans suffer, and I'm sure there is more suffering, but unless this hits the owners in the pocketbook, which is doubtful, they are fat (i.e. rich) and happy.

Everyone will keep complaining, the networks will be in controversy heaven and the fans will keep on cheering for their team. We are addicted to the NFL. Now, if this is not resolved in the next 2-3 weeks and the replacements keep regressing weekly, all bets are off on the impact to the league.

[noquicksnap1]

Originally Posted by Blitzberg06

How does one have possession if he doesn't even touch the ball until it is controlled and held by the DB and as he is falling to the ground one puts their ONE hand on it once he hits the ground he his hugging the DB and not touching the ball at all.

I heard this on ESPN today - "A woman walked into a store with a baby in her arms and someone touched the baby on the head and a replacement ref gave them custody".

[Fan_in_Kettering]

What cost the Packers that game was not the referees but the play of safety M.D. Jennings. If Jennings had simply batted the ball away from Golden Tate instead of trying to be a hero and make an interception, Green Bay would have won.

[WCStripes]

Originally Posted by Fan_in_Kettering

What cost the Packers that game was not the referees but the play of safety M.D. Jennings. If Jennings had simply batted the ball away from Golden Tate instead of trying to be a hero and make an interception, Green Bay would have won.

+1

[Blitzberg06]

Originally Posted by Fan_in_Kettering

What cost the Packers that game was not the referees but the play of safety M.D. Jennings. If Jennings had simply batted the ball away from Golden Tate instead of trying to be a hero and make an interception, Green Bay would have won.

So you are saying that the TD didn't determine the outcome of the game?

[BengaliJack]

Way WAY to many screw ups at the end of that game to blame it on any one guy. From what Ive read there was an NFL rep looking at the tape as well and he gave input on that call, so this one may not be the replacement refs baby.

[Blitzberg06]

Originally Posted by BengaliJack

Way WAY to many screw ups at the end of that game to blame it on any one guy. From what Ive read there was an NFL rep looking at the tape as well and he gave input on that call, so this one may not be the replacement refs baby.

I did hear about that on NFL Network or somewhere else. Someone asked if the replay officials in the BOOTH are replacements and they said no they are the normal guys. So have they been this inept the entire time?

[BengalBug]

Originally Posted by Fan_in_Kettering

What cost the Packers that game was not the referees but the play of safety M.D. Jennings. If Jennings had simply batted the ball away from Golden Tate instead of trying to be a hero and make an interception, Green Bay would have won.

just like what the titans did at the end of regulation against the lions?

oh wait.

No matter how you try and turn this, it was a blown call. The player made the perfect play for that situation.

[Blitzberg06]

Originally Posted by BengalBug

just like what the titans did at the end of regulation against the lions?

oh wait.

No matter how you try and turn this, it was a blown call. The player made the perfect play for that situation.

Well to be fair he should of swatted it down but he didn't. He INTERCEPTED the ball CLEARLY.

[BengalBug]

Originally Posted by Blitzberg06

Well to be fair he should of swatted it down but he didn't. He INTERCEPTED the ball CLEARLY.

The titans swatted the ball down on their hail mary, right into the hands of Titus Young. Hindsight is 20/ 20

"I find something very interesting, the NFL's statement after our game," Rodgers said. "They admit the guy totally blows the call on the pass interference. They go on to say: 'When the players hit the ground in the end zone, the officials determined that both Tate and Jennings both had possession of the ball.' I call bull on that. Because they say officials. No, there was zero communication between them. ... One of them is signaling over his head, meaning clock stopped, game's over, I'm about to signal a touchback. The other, from who knows what angle, as he's looking at M.D. (Jennings) on top of Golden Tate and he's going to say that's a catch by the receiver while M.D. has the ball to his chest. ... As the rule reads, which we've all probably read it in the last 24 hours, simultaneous possession does not exist when one person has the ball first and the other player tries to put his hands on top of the ball -- which is obviously what happened. Everybody saw it. You saw the replay.
"That's embarrassing. This is the NFL here. They're saying they should have called pass interference, but they're saying the refs got it right in the end zone."

[Helldog]

Originally Posted by BengaliJack

Way WAY to many screw ups at the end of that game to blame it on any one guy. From what Ive read there was an NFL rep looking at the tape as well and he gave input on that call, so this one may not be the replacement refs baby.

No but the blatant PI call directly in front of the rep was all on the replacements. Then, they show the ref from the back of the endzone look at the sideline ref to see what to do and apparently there was some miscommunication even in that look cause the one signaled TD and the other signaled the game was over bahahahha. Awful. Although it's getting to be a big annoyance hearing about all this crap over the replacements. Hopefully something good will come out of this horse****.


1 Billion dollars also changed hands in Vegas with that 'td catch'. Craziness

[Sher Khan]

Another story out today on Banning Replacement Refs in New Jersey.

It's all here:

http://blog.northjersey.com/meadowla...ent-officials/

[fuzzychin]

Originally Posted by Whodey23

1 Billion dollars also changed hands in Vegas with that 'td catch'. Craziness

Wow, I can't believe I didn''t think about that angle.

the referees' call resulted in a $300 million swing toward the sports bookmakers, Bell said in an interview.

http://touch.chicagotribune.com/#sec.../p2p-72533736/

[Helldog]

Originally Posted by fuzzychin

Wow, I can't believe I didn''t think about that angle.



http://touch.chicagotribune.com/#sec.../p2p-72533736/

I just heard it was 1 Billion on espn, figures...

[Fan_in_Kettering]

Originally Posted by Blitzberg06

So you are saying that the TD didn't determine the outcome of the game?

The superb play of the Seahawks' defense for all 60 minutes determined the outcome of that game.

[Blitzberg06]

Originally Posted by Fan_in_Kettering

The superb play of the Seahawks' defense for all 60 minutes determined the outcome of that game.

I beg to differ. The seahawks played a hard fought game but the last play was a TD to WIN the game. It was gonna determine who was 1-2 and who was 2-1. So therefore it did determine the outcome.

[Helldog]

Originally Posted by Blitzberg06

I beg to differ. The seahawks played a hard fought game but the last play was a TD to WIN the game. It was gonna determine who was 1-2 and who was 2-1. So therefore it did determine the outcome.

I don't agree much with pittsburgh fans, but when I do...its with this guy.