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Old 09-28-2012, 04:47 PM
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Default Should have the Bengals added one more RB this season?

With Benard Scott looking like he's a no go for this Sunday,that really hurts our RB depth coming up.
4 games in and Scott has only been available for one.
In the off season I was kinda hoping the Bengals would be a serious contender to land Peyton Hillis or maybe another RB that can give you that extra burst. Either or.
Heck I was praying the Bengals would land Chris Ivory from the Saints at the end of preseason.
I like Brian Leonard,but Lewis has always been Heckyl Jeckyl with him.
One game he gets 5 touches,the next 2 weeks,4 touches.
Even with Scott healthy, his runs of big chunk kind are far and few between.
I like the Law Firm,but he's not that kind of RB that can punish a defense down ala Hillis,or the kind of RB that is a threat to take it the distance.
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:11 PM
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Thats why hes there... If scott cant get it together soon look for him to be IR'd or releaseed and Boon brought up.
While I don't really want it, it would seem logical; same type of player.
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:18 PM
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Definitely. Don't really see Law as that much better, if any over Ced.
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:05 PM
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I kept saying this offseason that Boom should make the team over someone (my target at the time was Leonard or Peerman, but whatever). If they can get him picking up blocks a bit better than he did at OSU, he'd be a fine running back. Nothing to send home about (read: not Ray Rice or MJD or Foster, but a steady stream of output a la Cedric Benson without the attitude), but fine - especially in a committee.
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:24 PM
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Definitely. Don't really see Law as that much better, if any over Ced.
What about Scott??? Besides being injury plagued he hasn't earned anything...I'd love to see him go!!!
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:32 PM
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Definitely. Don't really see Law as that much better, if any over Ced.
Anyone with a working set of eyes knew what we were getting with BJGE, and it wasn't a homerun style runner. If you worked yourself up into thinking that's what he was, then you're at fault for it - not him. So stop trying to hate on a dude just because he's not what you expected.

Personally, I love what the Law Firm brings. It isn't measured by any stat tracking site, and it won't show up in any highlight films - it's his ability to put the team ahead of himself. Gone are the days of the prima donnas and if anyone around here isn't happy with that, you can go hang out with T.O. I hear he's not doing too much these days and would probably like a visit from someone who isn't after his (empty) bank account.
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Anyone with a working set of eyes knew what we were getting with BJGE, and it wasn't a homerun style runner. If you worked yourself up into thinking that's what he was, then you're at fault for it - not him. So stop trying to hate on a dude just because he's not what you expected.

Personally, I love what the Law Firm brings. It isn't measured by any stat tracking site, and it won't show up in any highlight films - it's his ability to put the team ahead of himself. Gone are the days of the prima donnas and if anyone around here isn't happy with that, you can go hang out with T.O. I hear he's not doing too much these days and would probably like a visit from someone who isn't after his (empty) bank account.
Exactly. We won the Redskins game and he wasn't the major contributor in terms of yards or a high number of carries(plus the fumble). However he did an outstanding job of blocking which bought some time for Dalton to get the ball off. Not going over to the sidelines and sulking the rest of the game.

If it were Benson, he'd be crying about not being used enough even if we did win the game.

Benson was a "hungry for carries" type player, even when our ground game was getting stuffed. I can't fault him too much for being who he was in terms of style(you are what you are). If you remember watching Ced Benson he'd always pick up steam the more he carried. Which can wear down some of the Ds we played. Though this style can also hurt you if he can't get the yards you need when you need to convert. Say a drive in the 1st or 2nd quarter which either kills your momentum or makes you settle for FGs early in the game.
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Yes they should have, but been saying that since the season ended last year.
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Woulda taken Lamar Miller over Brandon Thompson, then we wouldn't had to have wasted a pick on Herron
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While I don't really want it, it would seem logical; same type of player.
Child, please.

Herron 5'10" - 215 lbs
B Scott 5'10" - 198 lbs

17 lbs on a RB is a HUGE difference!

Herron is a between-the-tackles runner. Scott is an off-the-edge runner.
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Tampa is obviously done with Blount why not try to swing a "Mays type" deal for him?
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:37 AM
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Tampa is obviously done with Blount why not try to swing a "Mays type" deal for him?
Blount is a "bad seed." No thanks!

Nelson wasn't a fit, I guess.

49ers gave up on the Mays project. (The Bengals are a sucker for a project.)
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Woulda taken Lamar Miller over Brandon Thompson, then we wouldn't had to have wasted a pick on Herron
It was a late 6th round pick. Get over it. It's not like they were batting for a grand slam at that point. How's Lamar Miller doing this year, by the way?

EDIT: Mind you, that question wasn't snide - I wasn't even aware where Miller was playing and genuinely curious. I just looked up his stats - I suppose if we could've gotten him where we got Herron it'd of been a good pick. But c'mon, bfine - you know what a 6th round pick is and isn't going to do (usually). If Thompson can get himself going, it'll be better for the team.

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Herron 5'10" - 215 lbs
B Scott 5'10" - 198 lbs

17 lbs on a RB is a HUGE difference!

Herron is a between-the-tackles runner. Scott is an off-the-edge runner.
Herron is deceptively agile - he lead all rookie running backs at the Combine in the agility drills. He's a between the tackles, sure - but he can dance and make defenders look dumb while doing it. Scott has a speed advantage (supposedly) and I guess experience - but that's about it.
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Woulda taken Lamar Miller over Brandon Thompson, then we wouldn't had to have wasted a pick on Herron
I was wrong on Lamar Miller. He seems alright, but I was at least right on his stock.
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Woulda taken Lamar Miller over Brandon Thompson, then we wouldn't had to have wasted a pick on Herron
That's the only pick that I didn't like. Instead of the fastest RB in the draft, we take another DT. Lamar Miller so far? 19 carries for 113 yards and a TD. He would've been perfect behind Law Firm.
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That's the only pick that I didn't like. Instead of the fastest RB in the draft, we take another DT. Lamar Miller so far? 19 carries for 113 yards and a TD. He would've been perfect behind Law Firm.
Perfection requires action. Miller could've failed heavily in the Bengal's scheme.

That being said - he'd of been hard pressed to do less than Scott at this point.
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Child, please.

Herron 5'10" - 215 lbs
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17 lbs on a RB is a HUGE difference!

Herron is a between-the-tackles runner. Scott is an off-the-bench warmer.

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With Benard Scott looking like he's a no go for this Sunday,that really hurts our RB depth coming up.
4 games in and Scott has only been available for one.
In the off season I was kinda hoping the Bengals would be a serious contender to land Peyton Hillis or maybe another RB that can give you that extra burst. Either or.
Heck I was praying the Bengals would land Chris Ivory from the Saints at the end of preseason.
I like Brian Leonard,but Lewis has always been Heckyl Jeckyl with him.
One game he gets 5 touches,the next 2 weeks,4 touches.
Even with Scott healthy, his runs of big chunk kind are far and few between.
I like the Law Firm,but he's not that kind of RB that can punish a defense down ala Hillis,or the kind of RB that is a threat to take it the distance.

We got rid of all the negative locker room attitudes and you wanted to add another one in Hillis? No thank you.

Injuries happen. They are unfortunately something you cannot predict. It is easy to sit here now and make these statements.

The Firm is going to be fine and was a good pickup for this team. He has already shown his worth.

Scott has obviously shown this staff somethings in practice that gives them cause to have faith in what he can do. I look at it like our receivers that many did not believe brought anything to the table and have been proven grossly wrong.
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Woulda taken Lamar Miller over Brandon Thompson, then we wouldn't had to have wasted a pick on Herron
Who took Miller and how is he playing? Gotta admit, I wasn't really on board with the Herron pick. Was there another back in the 6th who would have een a pbetter choice?

The way it's turned out, with Sims on the PUP, it's kinda been a good thing we have Thompson, hasn't it? Who would be the second NT if we didn't have Thompson?

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Woulda taken Lamar Miller over Brandon Thompson, then we wouldn't had to have wasted a pick on Herron
I keep trying to forget about all the young running backs the Bengals passed on in the draft and how much more explosive the offense could be if they had gotten one...

Please stop reminding me!!
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Who took Miller and how is he playing? Gotta admit, I wasn't really on board with the Herron pick. Was there another ack in the 6th who would have een a pbetter choice?

The way it's turned out, with Sims on the PUP, it's kinda been a good thing we have Thompson, hasn't it? Who would be the second NT if we didn't have Thompson?
The Dolphins took him, he currently has 19 carries, 113yds (5.9ypc), and 1 TD... of course his carry load isn't very big since he's behind Reggie Bush.
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The Dolphins took him, he currently has 19 carries, 113yds (5.9ypc), and 1 TD... of course his carry load isn't very big since he's behind Reggie Bush.
That's a pretty nice per carry average. He must be doing something right.
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That's a pretty nice per carry average. He must be doing something right.
Yeah, I haven't had the chance to actually watch him play live at all, but certainly doesn't seem like something to scoff at. It's a real shame the Bengals haven't had a great running back since Corey Dillon. (Yes Rudi Johnson was good, but I wouldn't say great.) Would love to see them actually hit big time with a draft pick and get a franchise runner sooner than later.
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