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Old 11-05-2012, 04:32 PM
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Newman gave up more plays than he made.

It was a nice effort but he is just out-matched anymore.

Damn youngsters
I agree.

I seriously don't understand why Dre Kirk didn't make it onto the field for at least 1 defensive snap.

Let him play the slot WR. He can play press coverage.
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Old 11-05-2012, 04:32 PM
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dude i thought it was cover two as well but it wasnt and leon just got beat off the line that ball was way to deep down feild for leon to still be trailing if it was zone. everyone else was also in man. Hall got burnt emabrassed, worked, schooled, however you want to put it...and was this before or after theTE embarassed him???
Didn't know that. Crocker was definitely in zone though. Where that zone was is debatable. Could have also been a simple cover 1
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Old 11-05-2012, 04:36 PM
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Right, let's sign the guy who Carson Freakin Palmer picked on this season...
Instead of guys on our team that Brandon Weeden and Ryan Tannehill picked on?
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Old 11-05-2012, 04:49 PM
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When was the last time a starter was cut for under performing ??
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Old 11-05-2012, 04:56 PM
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When was the last time a starter was cut for under performing ??
Yea that's the only thing. I don't think it's performance related. I think it is a conflict of personalities with front office or coaches. You can't tell me he isn't at least good enough to play NB for the 1-7 Chiefs.
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Old 11-05-2012, 04:56 PM
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Better see Dre get some playing time.
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When was the last time a starter was cut for under performing ??
Chris Crocker on 4/6/2012.

Donald Lee on 9/27. He was knicked up a bit.

Chase Coffman before that.
Bratkowski before that.

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Old 11-05-2012, 05:31 PM
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Default stanford routte released

A lot of ppl wanted him when raiders released him, anyone else still want him?
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:33 PM
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A lot of ppl wanted him when raiders released him, anyone else still want him?
He's not that bad, but unless its because the Chiefs really let him down, He's been fairly poor this year.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:08 PM
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Was he drafted in the 1st? Is he over 30? Has he lost a step or three?
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Routt is better than any CB on our roster not named Leon Hall .... therefore Routt's presence would improve us. (Some have stated that Leon Hall is dog meat.)

The point is to win now though ... and not some hypothetical future date.

These quotes were taken from "Last Years Low Attendance Revisited".
We're 3-5 now. THIS season is done. 1 move isn't going to save the season.

In the offseasom is when you build a team. Plus, we spent a high draft pick on a CB...may as well play him. Signing a legit #2 CB in the offseason and using that pick differently was the thing to do.

Somehow I think we'll be chasing a fix to losing Joseph for a long time.

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Old 11-05-2012, 09:43 PM
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The last thing the Bengals need is YET ANOTHER DB who's about to be 30+.

Newman- 34
Clements- 32
Crocker- 32
Jones- 29
Allen- 29
Nelson- 29

Routt- 29, 30 before the start of 2013 season.
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Did you see Hall play man on Thomas on that one play? That's probably why. The Bengals defense isn't really fast to be honest.

Also, I only brought up the Hall play because it definitely showed man coverage and that speed beat him. Not saying Hall is bad, but he's not really fast. He works better in zone
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It actually looked like a cover 2 concept
Thank you. I saw cover 2 as well.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:35 PM
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Thank you. I saw cover 2 as well.
We have run a lot of cover 2 this year.
But we don't get the pass rush needed for it to work.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:26 PM
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Thank you. I saw cover 2 as well.
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And we may as well sign Routt and just cut Jason Allen if all he is going to do is ride the bench.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:29 PM
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Don't we have enough corners?
Why would we need another one?
and why would a high priced corner be cut midseason and want to play for a team that's out of it? usually these players tend to join contenders

I'd rather add players who can fix the actual problem areas on the team right now, not add for the sake of adding
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:18 AM
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What about Stanford Routt who just got released by the chiefs? I know he has been struggling and as a number one I wouldn't sign him, but with the horrible squad we have he has to be an upgrade over someone. We should be decently high in the waiver order.
He wasn't the #1 is KC, Brandon Flowers has been the #1 since 2008. We should have signed Brandon Carr IMO.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:51 AM
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And we may as well sign Routt and just cut Jason Allen if all he is going to do is ride the bench.
This. Allen isn't even on the injury report anymore and he is still inactive.
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Did you see Hall play man on Thomas on that one play? That's probably why. The Bengals defense isn't really fast to be honest.

Also, I only brought up the Hall play because it definitely showed man coverage and that speed beat him. Not saying Hall is bad, but he's not really fast. He works better in zone
This so not true hall is better in man coverage. Lets see here let tear a ligament off your knee you rehab in 6months And see if you are 100%. Only knock on hall is his coverage on 6'5" recievers and not because of skill set just gets out jumped.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:54 AM
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He wasn't the #1 is KC, Brandon Flowers has been the #1 since 2008. We should have signed Brandon Carr IMO.

Correct answer ^^^

I live in KC. I get the "pleasure" of having the Chiefs games on here every Sunday. Routt just got cut from a team that has been horrible all season. Easy to put 2 & 2 together here, if the debate is whether or not to sign him. Answer....no.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:03 PM
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The team is including a lot more zone concepts, so I would be against this, despite being for it before the season. He's strictly a man CB
I'm sorry but I really don't put people's opinions out there like that but this is to funny if your definition of zone is a 10 yard cushion to give up 9 yards per play and get burned on every man to man play. I would take a strictly man CB over anything we have right now.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:57 PM
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Correct answer ^^^

I live in KC. I get the "pleasure" of having the Chiefs games on here every Sunday. Routt just got cut from a team that has been horrible all season. Easy to put 2 & 2 together here, if the debate is whether or not to sign him. Answer....no.
So he is worse than every corner on the Chiefs? It's not a cost saving move, so like I said there is more to it than play.
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So he is worse than every corner on the Chiefs? It's not a cost saving move, so like I said there is more to it than play.
Exactly.

I saw the Thursday game and Travis Daniels, who spelled Javier Arenas in the nickel, got worked over and was flat out horrible at everything he did.

I have seen Routt play several times this year and teams picked on him, alot, but he is light years better than Travis Daniels.

I think the Chiefs are trying to light a fire and releasing Routt is supposed to be the spark.
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