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Old 11-04-2012, 09:45 PM
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That Newman's two picks aren't incentive enough for the coaches to keep Dre on the bench much longer.

He still *****.
Really bad.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:48 PM
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I really don't get all the hate on Newman
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:51 PM
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I really don't get all the hate on Newman
Me neither.


He gives up a play here and there, but he's by far our 2nd best CB behind Hall.
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Newmens 2 ints wont keep Dre on the bench he can go in and play for Leon "Toasted all day "Hall. My Gosh i am sick of watching this guy get roasted
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:54 PM
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Newmens 2 ints wont keep Dre on the bench he can go in and play for Leon "Toasted all day "Hall. My Gosh i am sick of watching this guy get roasted
I think I saw Hall get beat once today.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:55 PM
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Newmens 2 ints wont keep Dre on the bench he can go in and play for Leon "Toasted all day "Hall. My Gosh i am sick of watching this guy get roasted
Hall didn't play that bad.
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I think I saw Hall get beat once today.
So if you don't think Hall is bad, and you don't think Newman is bad, how the hell is our defense allowing 67% completion percentage and an NFL QB Rating of 97.9? Just...like...magic or something?
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The entire secondary and their hapless coaches are the worst in the entire league. The players can't run, pursue, tackle, cover, challenge receivers, or do anything everyone else in the league does and the coaches are inept when it comes to teaching them. None of these clowns would start on any other team in the league, even the Chiefs or Jaguars. It's not just Terence Newman, Leon Hall, or Taylor Mays. It's the whole bunch.
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The entire secondary and their hapless coaches are the worst in the entire league. The players can't run, pursue, tackle, cover, challenge receivers, or do anything everyone else in the league does and the coaches are inept when it comes to teaching them. None of these clowns would start on any other team in the league, even the Chiefs or Jaguars. It's not just Terence Newman, Leon Hall, or Taylor Mays. It's the whole bunch.
Maybe they need Gene Hackman as a coach and Keanu Reeves at QB?
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:12 PM
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So if you don't think Hall is bad, and you don't think Newman is bad, how the hell is our defense allowing 67% completion percentage and an NFL QB Rating of 97.9? Just...like...magic or something?
Well when you don't pressure the QB even once the entire game it is pretty hard to blame the CBs.

If you guys want to pick on a CB, blame Clements. He just doesn't have the speed to cover anyone anymore. Hall and Newman are playing pretty good considering how bad our front 4 (minus Atkins) played.
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:43 PM
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I am pretty sure Newman now has more picks in one game, than any of our corners have had since 2010...
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Well when you don't pressure the QB even once the entire game it is pretty hard to blame the CBs.

If you guys want to pick on a CB, blame Clements. He just doesn't have the speed to cover anyone anymore. Hall and Newman are playing pretty good considering how bad our front 4 (minus Atkins) played.
I'm talking about the entire season.

Before this game, Newman has been thrown at 40 times, allowing 25 catches.
Clements had been thrown at 17 times, surrendering 11 catches.
Hall had been thrown at 24 times, allowing 15 catches.
Pacman has been thrown at 19 times, allowing 11 catches.
Nelson has surrendered 11 catches on 15 targets.
Mays has been thrown at 3 times, allowing 2 catches.
Miles has been thrown at twice, allowing 2 catches.

Lawson has been thrown at 14 times, surrendering 10 catches.
Maualuga had been thrown at 31 times, allowing 28 catches
And Burfict has been thrown at 25 times, allowing 20 catches.

Not a single player on this defense has allowed less than 57% of the passes against them be completed.
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So if you don't think Hall is bad, and you don't think Newman is bad, how the hell is our defense allowing 67% completion percentage and an NFL QB Rating of 97.9? Just...like...magic or something?
One word: Maualuga


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One word: Maualuga


lol
I listed the numbers above.

And you're basically right haha.

But none of our players are any good in coverage.
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I'm talking about the entire season.

Before this game, Newman has been thrown at 40 times, allowing 25 catches.
Clements had been thrown at 17 times, surrendering 11 catches.
Hall had been thrown at 24 times, allowing 15 catches.
Pacman has been thrown at 19 times, allowing 11 catches.
Nelson has surrendered 11 catches on 15 targets.
Mays has been thrown at 3 times, allowing 2 catches.
Miles has been thrown at twice, allowing 2 catches.

Lawson has been thrown at 14 times, surrendering 10 catches.
Maualuga had been thrown at 31 times, allowing 28 catches
And Burfict has been thrown at 25 times, allowing 20 catches.

Not a single player on this defense has allowed less than 57% of the passes against them be completed.
If we played man to man then your stats would matter.If the QB completes a pass to a WR whie playing against a soft zone and has space then I can not put that on the defender but the coach.Someone else stated we did not get pressure on Manning you can not give a real good QB that much time and expect good things to happen.
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Well when you don't pressure the QB even once the entire game it is pretty hard to blame the CBs.

If you guys want to pick on a CB, blame Clements. He just doesn't have the speed to cover anyone anymore. Hall and Newman are playing pretty good considering how bad our front 4 (minus Atkins) played.
I am with you on Clements. Not a lot gets said about him but he is not impressive by any means.
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Default Terrance Newman and his two interceptions

Were about the worst thing that could happen. It's only going to delay the inevitable. Honestly what is Zimmer thinking?

Most fans are like ZOMG NEWMAN 2 picks. Did you see how many times He was burnt? There's a reason Newman was getting thrown at the entire game and Peyton stayed away from Hall.

CHRIS CROCKER is getting snaps at slot corner while our first rounder is chilling on the bench.

Crocker
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Why are they all playing over Kirkpatrick? We're 3-5 with nothing to lose. Dre should ATLEAST be the 3rd corner against the Giants.
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I'm so glad you made this thread.

There definitely weren't enough threads saying the exact same thing you just posted.
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Come on, give him a break...he's a die hard fan!
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Were about the worst thing that could happen. It's only going to delay the inevitable. Honestly what is Zimmer thinking?

Most fans are like ZOMG NEWMAN 2 picks. Did you see how many times He was burnt? There's a reason Newman was getting thrown at the entire game and Peyton stayed away from Hall.

CHRIS CROCKER is getting snaps at slot corner while our first rounder is chilling on the bench.

Crocker
Newman
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Why are they all playing over Kirkpatrick? We're 3-5 with nothing to lose. Dre should ATLEAST be the 3rd corner against the Giants.
YES! Most would look at Newman's INTs as a good thing. Luckily we have you and others around to tell us they weren't
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Were about the worst thing that could happen. It's only going to delay the inevitable. Honestly what is Zimmer thinking?

Most fans are like ZOMG NEWMAN 2 picks. Did you see how many times He was burnt? There's a reason Newman was getting thrown at the entire game and Peyton stayed away from Hall.

CHRIS CROCKER is getting snaps at slot corner while our first rounder is chilling on the bench.

Crocker
Newman
Clements

Why are they all playing over Kirkpatrick? We're 3-5 with nothing to lose. Dre should ATLEAST be the 3rd corner against the Giants.
You have a legitimate point. Don't mind all the condescending ****s around here.
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he actually had some good points but lets be real. all the DBs were giving up huge plays. hall is just a... im just gonna blame halls inconsistent play on his injury from last yr like everyone else does and then wait to judge him next yr lol. he's not getting any younger or faster so theres still hope for leon..... lol. were going to have a retirement home of cb's real soon with no speed. maybe dre and that 5'9 dude prater will prove me wrong but not counting on it.
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he actually had some good points but lets be real. all the DBs were giving up huge plays. hall is just a... im just gonna blame halls inconsistent play on his injury from last yr like everyone else does and then wait to judge him next yr lol. he's not getting any younger or faster so theres still hope for leon..... lol. were going to have a retirement home of cb's real soon with no speed. maybe dre and that 5'9 dude prater will prove me wrong but not counting on it.
Dre is one of the slowest CBs on the team.

Hall 4.38
Newman 4.39
Clements 4.38
Jones 4.42
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Prater 4.52
Kirkpatrick 4.51

So I wouldn't get my hopes up. He will have to rely on being physical and jam at the line if he wants to stay with fast WRs.
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Dre is one of the slowest CBs on the team.

Hall 4.38
Newman 4.39
Clements 4.38
Jones 4.42
Allen 4.39
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Kirkpatrick 4.51

So I wouldn't get my hopes up. He will have to rely on being physical and jam at the line if he wants to stay with fast WRs.
The 40-yard dash times for all these vets are invalid now for the most part. Practically all of them are now slower than when they ran the dash their rookie year. Especially Clements and Newman. Would be nice to have every player run a dash every year, but that won't happen heh.
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