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Old 11-09-2012, 07:39 AM
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I'm talking about how the rest of the league sees him, which is as a real force and already one of the best in the game. Yes, I call that established.
After 23 NFL games, AJ is a decent receiver on a perennially nothing team. Only 16 other players had more receiving yards than he did last season.

I guess I should be happy that I live in Cincinnati and will not be allowed to witness a physically ill-equipped team peter out in the second half and one of my favorite players get handled by a superior team with "holes" in their Super Bowl defending secondary. I just hope he doesn't get lit-up.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:17 AM
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That isn't trash talking, that's an observation anyone would make seeing what that Defense has allowed in the last 3 weeks, is anyone going to disagree with that?
I don't think anyone is debating the fact if it has some truth or not. The question is was it a good idea to go on a NYC radio talk show and point it out.

Eli Manning is in the bottom half of the league in passer rating this year and his skills are vastly over-rated by many. Would it be wise from Terrence Newman to go on an NYC radio talk show and point it out 4 days before we play them?
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Antrel Rolle disagrees.
Id take Green over 3 Antrel Rolles.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:42 AM
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Well, one thing that hasn't been pointed out yet is that the Giants always have a stick up their *** about this stuff. Do you notice that there's always one of these sort of comments in the media every week? Typically from Osi or Antrel. They just don't know when to just say no comment, they always have to take offense to every single thing that is said.

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Old 11-09-2012, 12:33 PM
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Also, if that's a slam, what the heck did Chad do all the time?
Chad was playful, most people never took him serious anyways. He did talk trash but it was in a fun way. He's friends with a lot of the other players anyways.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:50 PM
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Curious to see what Antrell has to say when AJ puts up 100+ and a few scores on them....
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Old 11-09-2012, 04:10 PM
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No, their defense does have holes though. (Kinda like ours)

Who's got stats for how they do on 3rd compared to us?
We let offenses convert an average of 42% of 3rd downs.

NYG let offenses convert an average of 37% of 3rd downs.

Both defenses have had a opposing offenses attempt 107 3rd down plays.

What I'm worried most about is their turnover differential. The Giants are +14, and the Bengals are -5. So while their defense may be 26th against the pass, they do get turnovers(17ints, 7ff, and 13fr).
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Well, one thing that hasn't been pointed out yet is that the Giants always have a stick up their *** about this stuff. Do you notice that there's always one of these sort of comments in the media every week? Typically from Osi or Antrel. They just don't know when to just say no comment, they always have to take offense to every single thing that is said.
Maybe taking absolutely no crap is a formula for success. The Bengals should try it.
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We let offenses convert an average of 42% of 3rd downs.

NYG let offenses convert an average of 37% of 3rd downs.

Both defenses have had a opposing offenses attempt 107 3rd down plays.

What I'm worried most about is their turnover differential. The Giants are +14, and the Bengals are -5. So while their defense may be 26th against the pass, they do get turnovers(17ints, 7ff, and 13fr).
I am curious as to how they have twice as many fumble recoveries as forced fumbles. Do they scare the ball out of people's hands?
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:14 PM
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We let offenses convert an average of 42% of 3rd downs.

NYG let offenses convert an average of 37% of 3rd downs.

Both defenses have had a opposing offenses attempt 107 3rd down plays.

What I'm worried most about is their turnover differential. The Giants are +14, and the Bengals are -5. So while their defense may be 26th against the pass, they do get turnovers(17ints, 7ff, and 13fr).
they do play Dallas twice a year too
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After 23 NFL games, AJ is a decent receiver on a perennially nothing team. Only 16 other players had more receiving yards than he did last season.

I guess I should be happy that I live in Cincinnati and will not be allowed to witness a physically ill-equipped team peter out in the second half and one of my favorite players get handled by a superior team with "holes" in their Super Bowl defending secondary. I just hope he doesn't get lit-up.
A decent receiver? What is wrong with you?
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I don't think anyone is debating the fact if it has some truth or not. The question is was it a good idea to go on a NYC radio talk show and point it out.

Eli Manning is in the bottom half of the league in passer rating this year and his skills are vastly over-rated by many. Would it be wise from Terrence Newman to go on an NYC radio talk show and point it out 4 days before we play them?
What is vastly overrated is the impact of trash talking.
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What is vastly overrated is the impact of trash talking.
Finnegan would like a word or twelve with you on this topic
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Old 11-09-2012, 06:01 PM
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Finnegan would like a word or twelve with you on this topic
It doesn't make anybody better or worse. The game will be what the game will be either way.
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Old 11-09-2012, 06:04 PM
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What is vastly overrated is the impact of trash talking.
If you say so

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It doesn't make anybody better or worse. The game will be what the game will be either way.
A game was LOST because of Finnegan. One player and his mouth - nothing else.
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If you say so

I do. These guys have way more to think about than what this guy or that guy said. After the first series, all that ****'s right out the window. If anything, it makes guy press and therefore play worse. If Rolle is worried about taking AJ's head off, he won't be doing his job. And it won't make guys who can't cover AJ suddenly be able to cover him. Get real, man.
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A game was LOST because of Finnegan. One player and his mouth - nothing else.
A game? Out of what, thousands?
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I do. These guys have way more to think about than what this guy or that guy said. After the first series, all that ****'s right out the window. If anything, it makes guy press and therefore play worse. If Rolle is worried about taking AJ's head off, he won't be doing his job. And it won't make guys who can't cover AJ suddenly be able to cover him. Get real, man.
We will make any excuse we can for those we like.

Simple yes or no. Do you think AJ shoulda went on a NYC radio talk show and say the NY Giants Defense has a lot of holes?
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We will make any excuse we can for those we like.

Simple yes or no. Do you think AJ shoulda went on a NYC radio talk show and say the NY Giants Defense has a lot of holes?
Naw, that was dumb, but we were gonna lose anyway.
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If you say so

Right. Never mind the fact that Clay/Ali was ten times the fighter Sonny Liston ever was. I'm sure that had nothing to do with it. Besides, Clay/Ali was the guy who did most of the trash talking. Were you alive then or just unaware? Not really a good example, if you ask me.

You act like a thread is your child or something. We are allowed to disagree without it being taken personally, aren't we? Not attacking you, just disagreeing.
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We will make any excuse we can for those we like.

Simple yes or no. Do you think AJ shoulda went on a NYC radio talk show and say the NY Giants Defense has a lot of holes?
Whichever would most closely say, "Who gives a ****?"
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A game? Out of what, thousands?


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no?
You got me...I guess...if I knew who that is or what you're trying to say though her ugly *** mug.
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