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Old 11-12-2012, 01:02 PM
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Default Long overdue rankings

Running Backs:
  1. Giovanni Bernard, RB, UNC
  2. Jawan Jamison, RB, Rutgers
  3. Joseph Randle, RB, Oklahoma St
  4. Stepfon Taylor, RB, Stanford
  5. Laveon Bell, RB, Michigan State
  6. Cierre Wood, RB, Notre Dame
  7. Kenjon Barner, RB, Oregon
  8. Dennis Johnson, RB, Arkansas
  9. Andre Ellington, RB, Clemson
  10. Jonathan Franklin, RB, UCLA
  11. Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin

Linebackers:
  1. Jarvis Jones, OLB, UGA
  2. Manti Teo, ILB, ND
  3. Alex Ogletree, ILB, UGA
  4. Khaseem Greene, OLB, Rutgers
  5. CJ Mosley, OLB, Alabama
  6. Arthur Brown, ILB, KSU
  7. Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU
  8. Nico Johnson, ILB, Alabama
  9. Kevin Minter, ILB, LSU
  10. Shayne Skov, ILB, Stanford
  11. Sean Porter, OLB, TAMU
  12. Kevin Reddick, ILB, UNC
  13. Chris Borland, ILB, Wisconsin
  14. Max Bullough, ILB, MSU
  15. Jonathan Brown, OLB, Illinois

Pass Rushers: (DE and OLB )
  1. Jarvis Jones, OLB, UGA
  2. Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU
  3. Bjoern Werner, DE, FS
  4. Damontre Moore, DE, TAMU
  5. Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
  6. Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
  7. Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon
  8. Ezekiel Ansah, OLB/DE, BYU
  9. Corey Lemonier, DE/OLB, Auburn
  10. James Gayle, DE, VT
  11. William Gholston, DE, MSU
  12. Jackson Jeffcoat, DE/OLB, Texas (INJURY)

Nose Tackles:
  1. Star Lotulelei, NT, Utah
  2. Jonathan Hankins, NT, OSU
  3. Jesse Williams, NT, Alabama
  4. John Jenkins, NT, UGA
  5. Kawaan Short, NT, Purdue

Safeties:
  1. Eric Reid, S, LSU
  2. Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
  3. TJ McDonald, S, USC
  4. Robert Lester, S, Alabama
  5. Tony Jefferson, S, Oklahoma
  6. Bacarri Rambo, S, UGA
  7. Shawn Williams, S, UGA

Offensive Line:
  1. Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama
  2. Luke Joeckel, OT, TAMU +
  3. Barrett Jones, OL, Alabama
  4. Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
  5. Jake Matthews, OT, TAMU
  6. Khaled Holmes, C, USC
  7. DJ Fluker, OT, Alabama
  8. Jonathon Cooper, OG, UNC
  9. Alvin Bailey, OL, Arkansas
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:22 PM
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Matt Elam the safety out of UF needs to be on this list. As much as it pains me to say it he probably better than the two georgia boys. also I agree with you rankings of the DE with the two kids from LSU, but I really hope we dont buy into the hype there because they constantly get ripped for poor technique
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Matt Elam the safety out of UF needs to be on this list. As much as it pains me to say it he probably better than the two georgia boys. also I agree with you rankings of the DE with the two kids from LSU, but I really hope we dont buy into the hype there because they constantly get ripped for poor technique
Elam is so incredibly overrated because of highlight reel hits.
He is a smaller Taylor Mays. Lowers the boom but offers no form tackling and isn't great when asked to cover man.
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:42 PM
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Elam is terrible.
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:47 PM
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Along with Elam being very overrated, I think DJ Swearinger out of South Carolina is very UNDERrated. I watched a couple South Carolina games this year, including this past weekend's game, and he has been a force on their defense. He has played all over their secondary, and being effective in all of them.

Very good crop of safeties to choose from this upcoming draft. Same with running backs.
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:09 PM
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Nico Johnson's stock is in a rapid decline. Its becoming very apparent he can not provide anything in pass coverage. He was not even a part of the 3-3-5 that Bama used against A&M.
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:25 PM
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One riser who might make your list is Travis Long SLB of Washington State. Had two sacks this past weekend and is up to 9 1/2 on the year. Plays for a terrible team but is starting to get some pub.
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Matt Elam the safety out of UF needs to be on this list.
I'm with you. He is the best SS prospect in the nation. Here's a couple recent write ups about him:

http://www.walterfootball.com/scouti...t2013melam.php

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Skill-Set Summary: Elam is the complete package as a safety. He covers a lot of ground in pass coverage since he has the ability to run with receivers and tight ends. Elam is a physical, tough safety who does well in run support, too. He excels in any aspect of safety play.

Elam is very comfortable playing in the tackle box. He has a compact and muscular build that he uses to be a good tackler. An underrated aspect of Elam's game is his blitzing ability. The Gators haven't called his number that often to rush the quarterback, but when they have, Elam has showed off some dangerous ability to pressure the signal-caller. He has excellent pursuit speed to chase down ball carriers as well.

Elam is a natural in the deep part of the field in pass coverage. He is smart and judges the ball well. Elam shows good speed to cover a lot of ground and is able to pick up speed receivers running deep downfield. In zone coverage, he has a quick first step and doesn't get caught out of position.

Elam is an intelligent player who should only get better with experience. He is also a hard hitter who punishes receivers when given the opportunity.

Aside from a great physical skill set, Elam is very instinctive. He uses those instincts to fly around the field and be around the football, even when plays don't go his direction. Elam is disruptive and has a real presence in the back end of the field.

The scheme flexibility that the junior possesses will please NFL defensive back coaches. Elam has the size and physicality to play strong safety duties, but he is also fast and athletic enough to cover the deep part of the field as a free safety. Elam has fabulous coverage skills to play man-to-man with tight ends; more so than other early-round safety prospects.

Elam is a well-rounded prospect with big upside. He has tons of potential and could become a great player this season.
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No prospect has experienced such a meteoric rise as safety Matt Elam.

The 5'10", 202-pound firecracker punishes ball carriers, feasts on quarterbacks' mistakes and has seen his draft stock improve by at least two rounds.

Once considered a third- or fourth-round talent, Elam now sits atop NFLDraftScout.com's board as the No. 1 strong safety prospect in the country.

Like former Gators Major Wright and Reggie Nelson, Elam is a versatile defensive back who can fill multiple roles in any defensive scheme.

With another year of eligibility remaining, the former Gatorade National Player of the Year is no lock to enter the 2013 NFL draft.

Prediction: Elam enters the draft and is a Top-40 pick.
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I'm with you. He is the best SS prospect in the nation. Here's a couple recent write ups about him:

http://www.walterfootball.com/scouti...t2013melam.php



http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ospects/page/2
I think his comparisons to Mays are a bit exaggerated. I don't entirely disagree about his penchant for not wrapping, but watching Florida over the last few weeks, it's apparent that he's got skill...noticeably better in coverage than I remember Mays being his final year. And the boy can thump, particularly on special teams. Sometimes his own players...sound familiar? haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwWn253H2jk

An omission--coming from that same Florida squad--is Mike Gillislee. While his numbers don't pop off the screen, his play does. He's excellent in pass pro, possibly the best center of gravity in this class, and he can get the tough yards. He runs low, as compared to some of the other prominent backs this year.

He seems to have trouble breaking tackles into long runs, but I imagine the level of competition in the SEC has muted his numbers significantly. Remember, Lattimore had similar numbers against similar competition before his tragic injury. I'm predicting his talent will be on display in the Senior Bowl this year, as he might get some separation from the pack of underclassmen with a good performance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW4DdFPd8cI

I'm really interested in a SLB like Sean Porter. Porter's done well with his transition to a 4-3 outside backer from a pass rush specialist this year. He got an interception in Saturday's win against 'Bama, and is having a good year.

He has some work to do when back from the LOS as far as angles of pursuit, but he is our prototypical SLB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdtKVe4Ikk0

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I dont think Bernard is the best RB in this class.....I have watched a lot of video and live games on this kid and each time I watch him, I become less interested. I feel like he lacks explosion and acceleration. Just does not look fast to me. I think Ellington needs to be A LOT higher on that list.

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Khaseem Greene OLB/S Rutgers

Margus Hunt DE/DT



2 prospects I'm really starting to like!
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:37 PM
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Nice write up.

You may want to consider throwing David Amerson into your safety rankings.

Scott Wright has him going to us in his mock draft.
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Elam is a good safety, you guys need to put down the pipe.
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Elam is a good safety, you guys need to put down the pipe.
If you like safeties who miss tackles because they are trying to knock someone out.
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My RB list..... *bolded are the favorites depending on where in the draft we are.

1. Stepfon Taylor
2. Giovanni Bernard
3. Montee Ball
4. Kenjon Barner
5. Jawan Jamison
6. Leveon Bell
7. Cierre Wood
8. Jonathan Franklin
9. Andre Ellington

10. Joseph Randle
11. Dennis Johnson
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LBs-


Manti Teo
Jarvis Jones
Arthur Brown
Alex Ogletree
Nico Johnson
Shayne Skov
Kevin Reddick
Max Bullough
Sean Porter
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Nose tackles-

Jesse Williams
Star Lotulelei
John Jenkins
Kawaan Short
Louis Nix
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If you like safeties who miss tackles because they are trying to knock someone out.
Yea ive watched several UF games and I saw no play like that coming from the safeties.. Besides we already have Taylor Mays to do that.
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Hey berserker, can the list of LB be refined even more to SAM, MIKE, and WILL? This may help some with which linebackers are best suited at certain positions on our team.
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Hey berserker, can the list of LB be refined even more to SAM, MIKE, and WILL? This may help some with which linebackers are best suited at certain positions on our team.
This would be awesome. And probably create a lot of discussion/debate as well.
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I donno, I still like Damontre Moore. Jarvis Jones is a better prospect, Mingo has more upside, but Moore is #3 imo.

3.0 sacks against Florida, 1.5 against LSU, and 1.0 against Alabama don't lie. Definitely a top-10 pick right now.
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http://espn.go.com/college-football/...8/anthony-barr

OLB getting a lot of pub lately. Don't know if he will declare though.

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Running Backs:
  1. Giovanni Bernard, RB, UNC
  2. Jawan Jamison, RB, Rutgers
  3. Joseph Randle, RB, Oklahoma St
  4. Stepfon Taylor, RB, Stanford
  5. Laveon Bell, RB, Michigan State
  6. Cierre Wood, RB, Notre Dame
  7. Kenjon Barner, RB, Oregon
  8. Dennis Johnson, RB, Arkansas
  9. Andre Ellington, RB, Clemson
  10. Jonathan Franklin, RB, UCLA
  11. Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin

Linebackers:
  1. Jarvis Jones, OLB, UGA
  2. Manti Teo, ILB, ND
  3. Alex Ogletree, ILB, UGA
  4. Khaseem Greene, OLB, Rutgers
  5. CJ Mosley, OLB, Alabama
  6. Arthur Brown, ILB, KSU
  7. Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU
  8. Nico Johnson, ILB, Alabama
  9. Kevin Minter, ILB, LSU
  10. Shayne Skov, ILB, Stanford
  11. Sean Porter, OLB, TAMU
  12. Kevin Reddick, ILB, UNC
  13. Chris Borland, ILB, Wisconsin
  14. Max Bullough, ILB, MSU
  15. Jonathan Brown, OLB, Illinois

Pass Rushers: (DE and OLB )
  1. Jarvis Jones, OLB, UGA
  2. Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU
  3. Bjoern Werner, DE, FS
  4. Damontre Moore, DE, TAMU
  5. Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
  6. Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
  7. Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon
  8. Ezekiel Ansah, OLB/DE, BYU
  9. Corey Lemonier, DE/OLB, Auburn
  10. James Gayle, DE, VT
  11. William Gholston, DE, MSU
  12. Jackson Jeffcoat, DE/OLB, Texas (INJURY)

Nose Tackles:
  1. Star Lotulelei, NT, Utah
  2. Jonathan Hankins, NT, OSU
  3. Jesse Williams, NT, Alabama
  4. John Jenkins, NT, UGA
  5. Kawaan Short, NT, Purdue

Safeties:
  1. Eric Reid, S, LSU
  2. Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
  3. TJ McDonald, S, USC
  4. Robert Lester, S, Alabama
  5. Tony Jefferson, S, Oklahoma
  6. Bacarri Rambo, S, UGA
  7. Shawn Williams, S, UGA

Offensive Line:
  1. Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama
  2. Luke Joeckel, OT, TAMU +
  3. Barrett Jones, OL, Alabama
  4. Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
  5. Jake Matthews, OT, TAMU
  6. Khaled Holmes, C, USC
  7. DJ Fluker, OT, Alabama
  8. Jonathon Cooper, OG, UNC
  9. Alvin Bailey, OL, Arkansas
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I dont think Bernard is the best RB in this class.....I have watched a lot of video and live games on this kid and each time I watch him, I become less interested. I feel like he lacks explosion and acceleration. Just does not look fast to me. I think Ellington needs to be A LOT higher on that list.

Randle
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Bell
Lacy
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Bernard is the best back in this class. One thing to keep in mind when watching him is that he is the only real offensive weapon that NC has so teams gear up to focus almost solely on stopping him. He really gets zero help from the offense.
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Taylor and Barner, IMO, should be much farther down the list.

Taylor just is not elusive. He does not have any real cutback ability and seems to be a north/south runner that needs wide running lanes to shake loose. See him go down on first contact as well and just does not show much make you miss ability.

Barner will be a third down change of pace guy at the next level. Nice luxury for teams that have an established running game.
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