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Old 11-12-2012, 02:07 PM
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Default Should Leon "Shadow" All the Opponents #1 WRs?

He mostly shut down Victor Cruz.

He also arguably plays the slot better than the outside.

I am in favor of it but it goes against Zimmers defense, at least what we have seen of it.

Do you guys think this should happen for the remainder of the year?
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:22 PM
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Yes. Or you could have bracket coverage with Newman/Pac and a safety on the #1, with Leon draping the #2 option
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:18 AM
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Yes, whatever they were doing Sunday, pretty much shut the Giants down
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:07 AM
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Yes, whatever they were doing Sunday, pretty much shut the Giants down
The defensive line finally got pressure. It's the same backfield.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:10 AM
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He is usually on the #1, just helps when your getting better safety and LB play in coverage

What #1 has killed us this year ?
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:13 AM
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Lol, funny. Just a week ago everyone on here was ready to crucify Leon. Which I didn't understand because he didn't even have a close to bad game.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:14 AM
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He is usually on the #1, just helps when your getting better safety and LB play in coverage

What #1 has killed us this year ?
Did you forget week #1? I guess when every receiver is open you can blame just about anyone.

Hall has been playing better the last couple of weeks.

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Did you forget week #1?

You mean the poor safety play? How's that on hall? And was Torrey smith the #1 at that point for them?

But ok since then, I can't remember us being abused by any #1
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:33 AM
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Did you forget week #1? I guess when every receiver is open you can blame just about anyone.

Hall has been playing better the last couple of weeks.
That was a cover 2 that failed.

Notice that whenever Leon breaks off in what appears to be a cover 2, the safety screws up 9/10 times?
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The defensive line finally got pressure. It's the same backfield.
I think the sacks were coverage sacks.
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Adam Jones looked like an elite cover CB in that game. Probably the best I could remember seeing him here.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:47 AM
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Adam Jones looked like an elite cover CB in that game. Probably the best I could remember seeing him here.
At the very least, he is a great NCB. We should lock him up for a couple more years.
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Old 11-13-2012, 04:04 PM
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Adam Jones looked like an elite cover CB in that game. Probably the best I could remember seeing him here.
Adam is playing his tail off in all phases this year.
He has a lot of great games left in him if he can keep from getting dinged up.
For having the knucklehead history the guy has been the model of team player while here.

One of the players that actually appreciates the fans and he seems determined to redeem during his "3rd" chance.

I would love to see him get a 2 year ext after the season.
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That was a cover 2 that failed.

Notice that whenever Leon breaks off in what appears to be a cover 2, the safety screws up 9/10 times?
Complete assumption on your part. I'm not saying you're wrong, but when he lets the guy go and 9/10 times there's an issue, you can't think that the safety is wrong that much. If that's the case, the safety should be benched.
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Complete assumption on your part. I'm not saying you're wrong, but when he lets the guy go and 9/10 times there's an issue, you can't think that the safety is wrong that much. If that's the case, the safety should be benched.
2 of them were (Miles and Mays).

Can't bench everyone I guess lol.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:50 AM
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He mostly shut down Victor Cruz.

He also arguably plays the slot better than the outside.

I am in favor of it but it goes against Zimmers defense, at least what we have seen of it.

Do you guys think this should happen for the remainder of the year?
Nope, Leon outside doing what he does.

1/2 of good CB play is correct breaks in zone coverage (LB's) and safety over the top. Leon is a fine CB
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:33 AM
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Leon is our best CB and should always be on the #1WR.. I dont see why this is a topic of discussion.

He shut Cruz down, but he's not always gonna win those battles. You can be a damn good corner and still get burned. Ask Revis, its happened to him a few times.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:23 AM
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Leon is our best CB and should always be on the #1WR.. I dont see why this is a topic of discussion.

He shut Cruz down, but he's not always gonna win those battles. You can be a damn good corner and still get burned. Ask Revis, its happened to him a few times.
Its a topic of discussion because Zimmer usually doesn't have the CBs "shadow" anyone.

They play their sides.

The Giants game was the first game I remember where Zimmer used this method.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:20 AM
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2 of them were (Miles and Mays).

Can't bench everyone I guess lol.
Mays should have never had to cover Anquan Boldin in man coverage to start with.
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If Hall is fully healthy he is the best CB on the team. I would be in favor of that decision.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: Should Leon "Shadow" All the Opponents #1 WRs?

After seeing how effective it was against the Giants, I had the same thought. I know it's pretty different than what Zim normally does. KC and Bowe would be another obvious opponent to use this method on, because who else is going to be productive at the receiver position?
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