Berserkerone88 and O&B November 20th Mock.

[Orange and Black Attack]

1. Kansas City - Tyler Wilson, QB, Ark
2. Jacksonville - Star Lotulelei, NT, Utah
3. Cleveland - Matt Barkley, QB, USC
4. Carolina - Johnathan Hankins, NT, Ohio State
5. Oakland - Geno Smith, QB, WVU
6. Philadelphia - Luke Joeckel, OT, A&M
7. Buffalo - Jarvis Jones, OLB, UGA
8. Detroit - Dee Milliner, CB, Bama
9. St. Louis - Taylor Lewan, OT, Mich
10. Arizona - Eric Fisher, OT, Central Mich.
11. New York Jets - Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU
12. Miami - Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
13. Minnesota [f/St.L via Was] - Manti Te'o, ILB, ND
14. Tennessee - Bjeorn Werner, DE, FSU
15. Denver [F/Cinn]- Eric Reid, S, LSU
16. Dallas - Chance Warmack, G, Bama
17. San Diego - Jesse Williams, NT, Bama
18. St. Louis [F/Minn] - Justin Hunter, WR, Tenn
19. Tampa Bay - Johnathan Banks, CB, Miss. St
20. New Orleans - Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon
21. Seattle - Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
22. Indianapolis - Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
23. Chicago - Jake Matthews, OT, A&M
24. Pittsburgh - Johnathan Jenkins, NT, Georgia
25. Cincinnati [F/Denver]- Alec Ogletree, ILB, UGA
26. New York Giants - Jonathan Cooper, G, UNC
27. New England - Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
28. Green Bay - Gio Bernard, RB, UNC
29. Baltimore - Barrett Jones, C, Bama
30. San Fransisco - Jordan Poyer, CB, Ore. St.
31. Atlanta - Tyler Eifert, TE, ND
32. Houston - Tavon Austin, WR, WVU

Bengals Mock -
25. Alec Ogletree, ILB, UGA
37. Eddie Lacy, RB, Bama
47. Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU
57. Khaseem Greene, LB, Rutgers
79. Bacarri Rambo, S, Georgia / Shawn Williams, S, UGA

[yellowxdiscipline]

If we traded back to me it would be a toss up between Ogletree and Mosely.

[Burma]

Love the trade back for Ogletree. Not a huge Lacey guy. Ansah and Greene are very good pick ups.. On the whole if we pulled off a draft like this I would sit back and make this face a lot.

[TGISunday]

What, no German-ator? j/k

Pretty good for us, hard to see the first round go like that considering many are down on Wilson and Barkley, but has no real baring on our picks.

I'd love Ogletree and Greene for pass defense purposes. I personally think Greene is too small with little room to grow, he's a real 'tweener. Love him at the college level, though.

[Hammerstripes]

I would give up our 1st and 2nd to move up to #7 overall for Jarvis Jones if this is the way it fell.

[Burma]

I have been thinking about the Lacey pick. There is more info at sportsoverdose.com that the Saints might be ready to part ways with Ingram. Would you think Lacey is a better fit for us than Ingram?

[OchoCincos]

I love all of these picks. I think trading back is a good idea, provided we can pick up an extra second and/or third.

The only questions I have are what happens to Burfict, and what about our SAM? I can assume, based off of this mock, that Ogletree starts at MIKE, and Burfict is our SAM. Either Greene, Howard (if we re-sign), or Lamur starts at WILL. Is this assumption correct?

[Stewee28]

Give me Bernard or Randle instead of Lacy and I would love this draft. I dont know if I agree about some of the other teams picks, but I am more worried about the Bengals then any other draft

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by TGISunday

What, no German-ator? j/k

Pretty good for us, hard to see the first round go like that considering many are down on Wilson and Barkley, but has no real baring on our picks.

I'd love Ogletree and Greene for pass defense purposes. I personally think Greene is too small with little room to grow, he's a real 'tweener. Love him at the college level, though.

Greene is 6-1 230.
Derrick Brooks was 6-0 235
Lance Briggs is 6-1 244
Chad Greenway is 6-2 242
Keith Bulluck is 6-3 235

If he adds 5-10 lbs he will easily be in the range of a lot of good NFL linebackers at the WLB spot. I do not think 5-10 is unreasonable. Does he have to do it right away? No. He can add to it slowly. But he is a play maker. He is a converted S (like Ogletree) and he has shown great ability to shed blocks even at his size.

Originally Posted by Burma

I have been thinking about the Lacey pick. There is more info at sportsoverdose.com that the Saints might be ready to part ways with Ingram. Would you think Lacey is a better fit for us than Ingram?

I think Ingram, given the chance, can be a good NFL back but we would need a compliment or we would have similar problems we have now. Lacy is much more of a dual threat runner between the tackles but also a guy who can turn the corner. Ingram also lacks ideal moves to really work in the NFL. A good stiff arm but relies on his balance and strength to break tackles. Lacy has the best spin move in the country and is incredibly good at feeling defenses. I think if he has a solid combine Lacy squeaks into the late first.

Originally Posted by OchoCincos

I love all of these picks. I think trading back is a good idea, provided we can pick up an extra second and/or third.

The only questions I have are what happens to Burfict, and what about our SAM? I can assume, based off of this mock, that Ogletree starts at MIKE, and Burfict is our SAM. Either Greene, Howard (if we re-sign), or Lamur starts at WILL. Is this assumption correct?

Most likely: WLB - Greene MLB - Ogletree SLB - Burfict
We run a lot of Nickle this year so I could easily see alignment shifts to get match ups.

Originally Posted by Stewee28

Give me Bernard or Randle instead of Lacy and I would love this draft. I dont know if I agree about some of the other teams picks, but I am more worried about the Bengals then any other draft

Bernard went #28 overall to Green Bay. They might take issue with us re-drafting him.

[renorvis]

I made another thread about Ogletree and I was wondering about his MIKE ability. Can he make the calls and get others in the right coverage. He is a freak athlete but can he stay disciplined and fly all over the field in the "wrong" way.

[ishouldbegm]

Originally Posted by Orange and Black Attack

1. Kansas City - Tyler Wilson, QB, Ark
2. Jacksonville - Star Lotulelei, NT, Utah
3. Cleveland - Matt Barkley, QB, USC
4. Carolina - Johnathan Hankins, NT, Ohio State
5. Oakland - Geno Smith, QB, WVU
6. Philadelphia - Luke Joeckel, OT, A&M
7. Buffalo - Jarvis Jones, OLB, UGA
8. Detroit - Dee Milliner, CB, Bama
9. St. Louis - Taylor Lewan, OT, Mich
10. Arizona - Eric Fisher, OT, Central Mich.
11. New York Jets - Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU
12. Miami - Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
13. Minnesota [f/St.L via Was] - Manti Te'o, ILB, ND
14. Tennessee - Bjeorn Werner, DE, FSU
15. Denver [F/Cinn]- Eric Reid, S, LSU
16. Dallas - Chance Warmack, G, Bama
17. San Diego - Jesse Williams, NT, Bama
18. St. Louis [F/Minn] - Justin Hunter, WR, Tenn
19. Tampa Bay - Johnathan Banks, CB, Miss. St
20. New Orleans - Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon
21. Seattle - Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
22. Indianapolis - Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
23. Chicago - Jake Matthews, OT, A&M
24. Pittsburgh - Johnathan Jenkins, NT, Georgia
25. Cincinnati [F/Denver]- Alec Ogletree, ILB, UGA
26. New York Giants - Jonathan Cooper, G, UNC
27. New England - Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
28. Green Bay - Gio Bernard, RB, UNC
29. Baltimore - Barrett Jones, C, Bama
30. San Fransisco - Jordan Poyer, CB, Ore. St.
31. Atlanta - Tyler Eifert, TE, ND
32. Houston - Tavon Austin, WR, WVU

Bengals Mock -
25. Alec Ogletree, ILB, UGA
37. Eddie Lacy, RB, Bama
47. Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU
57. Khaseem Greene, LB, Rutgers
79. Bacarri Rambo, S, Georgia / Shawn Williams, S, UGA

no way does oakland go qb jarvis jones might be an option

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by ishouldbegm

no way does oakland go qb jarvis jones might be an option

Because Palmer is leading them to so many wins?
They need a QB. The regime that got Palmer and Pryor is gone. They will want their own QB.

[Archer]

I'm diggin our mock, the complete 1st round is a little iffy but it's still early.

I love Ansah's upside. He could be a stud DE by his 2nd or 3rd season.

The additions to our LB core would also be great.

The draft class overall seems really weak compared to past years. There are very few "elite" prospects (Jones, Warmack, Loeckel, and maybe Star).

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by Archer

I'm diggin our mock, the complete 1st round is a little iffy but it's still early.

I love Ansah's upside. He could be a stud DE by his 2nd or 3rd season.

The additions to our LB core would also be great.

The draft class overall seems really weak compared to past years. There are very few "elite" prospects (Jones, Warmack, Loeckel, and maybe Star).

It's really hard at this point to nail other teams when you only have limited knowledge of every team. A lot of teams may be reaching for a guy but it is more about who we think they will take and we played with trades to see what COULD happen with them.

Ansah scares me. Is he JPP or just another freak athlete who cant do much in the NFL.
Upside is huge but also a huge risk. He doesn't really have all that impressive film, well not as much of it as you would expect.

I've felt that way for awhile now. I don't really see anyone so good we HAVE to trade up for if we keep winning and moving further back.

[yellowxdiscipline]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

Because Palmer is leading them to so many wins?
They need a QB. The regime that got Palmer and Pryor is gone. They will want their own QB.

Agree, however I still think they may go QB and keep Carson around as a fall back option.

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by yellowxdiscipline

Agree, however I still think they may go QB and keep Carson around as a fall back option.

I wouldn't doubt it.
But they will look early for a new QB. Same with Cleveland.
Haslam has the team now. Schurmur will be gone. Holmgren will be gone.
Will the new coach be okay with a 30 year old 2nd year QB? I dont think they will and if they have a shot at Geno or Barkley, they take it.

[yellowxdiscipline]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

I wouldn't doubt it.
But they will look early for a new QB. Same with Cleveland.
Haslam has the team now. Schurmur will be gone. Holmgren will be gone.
Will the new coach be okay with a 30 year old 2nd year QB? I dont think they will and if they have a shot at Geno or Barkley, they take it.

I think we can both agree Pryor doesnt stand a chance in Oakland.


Hell he never really had one.

[berserkerone88]

Originally Posted by yellowxdiscipline

I think we can both agree Pryor doesnt stand a chance in Oakland.


Hell he never really had one.

No he never did. Never expected him to.
So lulz on them.

[Burma]

Originally Posted by berserkerone88

No he never did. Never expected him to.
So lulz on them.

who could have foreseen an Al Davis "he runs fast" pick not working out..