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Old 11-24-2012, 09:16 AM
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reading a lot of the posts on here im thinking saftey is our top need and should be our top pick. nelson is ok but we need another guy back there to help. im wanting to see david amerson, eric reed ,or tj mcdonald with our first pick
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Old 11-24-2012, 10:36 AM
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Too high for McDonald IMO, and as much as I like Amerson at the safety position possibility, I'm not sure they should use a 1st round pick on a player they will be moving positions.

I do, however, like that the Bengals could take Baccari Rambo. This guy has been very good since coming back, and the year before was arguably the best safety coming into the draft before he decided to go back to UGA for another year.
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Old 11-24-2012, 11:11 AM
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I would not mind the Bengals reaching in the 1st and drafting Reid, which would have a huge and immediate impact on the defense. I like the first pick to help the defense either way, whether it is a safety like Reid, or a productive OLB like Mosley.


Address a position of need with an immediate starter, and let the good times roll.
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I guess my only question with the Safety prospects would be, is there one that really stands out above the others? Or are they all on the same level?

Reid - LSU
Vaccarro - Texas
McDonald - USC
Rambo - Georiga
Thompson - Oklahoma
Lester - Alabama

From everything I have read, Reid seems to be the concensus top Safety in the draft class and sounds like the only Safety to be going in Round 1. Honestly, I would take Reid, Vaccarro, McDonald and Rambo. Reid looks to go in the first, Vaccarro and McDonald to go in the 2nd and maybe Rambo slips to the late 2nd, early 3rd due to his off the field issues. They all just seem to be on the same level to me!
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The difference in the safeties this year is all about preference. What style of play you prefer or want out of a guy. Skill wise it is minimal
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Watching the game between Georgia Tech and Georgia, and Rambo is just straight up beasting it right now. Seriously, I want him in stripes. Badly. Turnover machine.
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Watching the game between Georgia Tech and Georgia, and Rambo is just straight up beasting it right now. Seriously, I want him in stripes. Badly. Turnover machine.
The only question is, will Marvin play Rambo to his strengths or try to make him into a traditional safety?

Rambo needs to play CF to be most effective. Im sure he can play a traditional role, but his instincts and awareness are best used like Ed Reed or Troy P. Let him roam CF and play the ball.
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The only question is, will Marvin play Rambo to his strengths or try to make him into a traditional safety?

Rambo needs to play CF to be most effective. Im sure he can play a traditional role, but his instincts and awareness are best used like Ed Reed or Troy P. Let him roam CF and play the ball.
I would hope Marvin does. Marvin was in Baltimore when Ed Reed was drafted, and that makes me have some hope that Marvin would actually know how to use him. Or let him be himself I should say.

Also, I could see Rambo easily being a steal in this draft. If he's there in the 3rd round, take him in a heart beat. I'd even be tempted to take him in the 2nd round.
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I would hope Marvin does. Marvin was in Baltimore when Ed Reed was drafted, and that makes me have some hope that Marvin would actually know how to use him. Or let him be himself I should say.

Also, I could see Rambo easily being a steal in this draft. If he's there in the 3rd round, take him in a heart beat. I'd even be tempted to take him in the 2nd round.
If he has a good combine and interviews well he could be the 2nd safety off the board. The only reason I have him as a 3rd rounder are the character red flags, which are of some small concern. He was real good friends and I believe roommates with AJ Green at UGA.
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If he has a good combine and interviews well he could be the 2nd safety off the board. The only reason I have him as a 3rd rounder are the character red flags, which are of some small concern. He was real good friends and I believe roommates with AJ Green at UGA.
Yeah, I have seen him only that far down because of the red flags. Which is why I definitely think the Bengals can get him.

I heard somewhere that Rambo and Green were friends, but never knew they were roommates or anything like that
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Yeah, I have seen him only that far down because of the red flags. Which is why I definitely think the Bengals can get him.

I heard somewhere that Rambo and Green were friends, but never knew they were roommates or anything like that
when Rambo moved in with A.J. Green to start the second semester of his freshman year.
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Well, now that gave me a little more hope that the Bengals will draft Rambo, so thanks for that lol
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I guess my only question with the Safety prospects would be, is there one that really stands out above the others? Or are they all on the same level?

Reid - LSU
Vaccarro - Texas
McDonald - USC
Rambo - Georiga
Thompson - Oklahoma
Lester - Alabama

From everything I have read, Reid seems to be the concensus top Safety in the draft class and sounds like the only Safety to be going in Round 1. Honestly, I would take Reid, Vaccarro, McDonald and Rambo. Reid looks to go in the first, Vaccarro and McDonald to go in the 2nd and maybe Rambo slips to the late 2nd, early 3rd due to his off the field issues. They all just seem to be on the same level to me!
You are missing the only other Safety besides Reid to possibly earn a 1st round grade; Matt Elam. Also do you mean Jefferson instead of Thompson from Oklahoma

This class reminds me a lot of 2010 class. A lot of prospect with top 3 round talent:

Eric Berry
Earl Thomas
Nate Allen
TJ Ward
Taylor Mayes
Morgan Burnett
Major Wright
Chad Jones
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You are missing the only other Safety besides Reid to possibly earn a 1st round grade; Matt Elam. Also do you mean Jefferson instead of Thompson from Oklahoma

This class reminds me a lot of 2010 class. A lot of prospect with top 3 round talent:

Eric Berry
Earl Thomas
Nate Allen
TJ Ward
Taylor Mayes
Morgan Burnett
Major Wright
Chad Jones
Yes this is a "deep" class, but the 2010 class was loaded at the top with Berry, Thomas, and Mays (as a prospect).

What sure fire 1st round safety is there this year? Reid? From what I have seen I definitely wouldn't use a 1st on him.

My favorite 2 prospects would be Rambo or Amerson in the 2nd.
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Yes this is a "deep" class, but the 2010 class was loaded at the top with Berry, Thomas, and Mays (as a prospect).

What sure fire 1st round safety is there this year? Reid? From what I have seen I definitely wouldn't use a 1st on him.

My favorite 2 prospects would be Rambo or Amerson in the 2nd.
Well I'm in the minority around here in thinking Matt Elam is a very good prospect; however, I agree there is no Berry or Barron type in this draft.
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Well I'm in the minority around here in thinking Matt Elam is a very good prospect; however, I agree there is no Berry or Barron type in this draft.
Its been widely said that Mark Barron wasn't even the best safety on his own team last year. That was Lester
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Its been widely said that Mark Barron wasn't even the best safety on his own team last year. That was Lester
Bama hasn't had the pass rush like they did with Upshaw and I think it has hurt Lester some.
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Its been widely said that Mark Barron wasn't even the best safety on his own team last year. That was Lester
Well whoever said that was wrong; there were also silly folk on here that said they wouldn't take Barron with our 1st last year. Barron is doing very well at TB
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Well whoever said that was wrong; there were also silly folk on here that said they wouldn't take Barron with our 1st last year. Barron is doing very well at TB
Exactly. If Bama had any consistent pass rush I think they are still undefeated. Manziel had all day to stand there.
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Exactly. If Bama had any consistent pass rush I think they are still undefeated. Manziel had all day to stand there.
Texas A&M does have 2 amazing OTs. And yes, Bama doesn't have that one guy who can consistently get to the passer.
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Texas A&M does have 2 amazing OTs. And yes, Bama doesn't have that one guy who can consistently get to the passer.
They really do.
Joeckel will probably be a top 5 pick and Matthews will be a top 25 .
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They really do.
Joeckel will probably be a top 5 pick and Matthews will be a top 25 .
Neither of them are seniors.

I wonder if they elect to not enter the draft for the opportunity to play for the BCS Title next year.

I doubt it, but it's something to consider. They would be a preseason top 3 especially if Damontre Moore decides to stay as well.
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Neither of them are seniors.

I wonder if they elect to not enter the draft for the opportunity to play for the BCS Title next year.

I doubt it, but it's something to consider. They would be a preseason top 3 especially if Damontre Moore decides to stay as well.
I could see Matthews staying and sliding to LT.
I think it would be a mistake for Joeckel to leave and pass up a top 5 selection.

I have read that Moore wants to stay. He could be a top 5 pick if he does and refines his play.
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In my opinion i don't think there is a safety worthy of a 1st rd pick...That should be a FA priority in the offseason.
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In my opinion i don't think there is a safety worthy of a 1st rd pick...That should be a FA priority in the offseason.
There really wont be a S in FA worth signing.
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