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Old 11-25-2012, 03:11 AM
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(We have too many needs).

2 DeAndre Hopkins WR Clemson - 6'1 200 and runs a 4.40.
2 Andre Ellington RB Clemson
2 Khaseem Greene OLB/S Rutgers
3 Robert Lester SS Alabama
3 Margus Hunt DE SMU
4 Johnathan Franklin RB UCLA
5 Mike Taylor OLB Wisconsin

6 A.J. Klein ILB Iowa State
6 Trey Burton FB/TE/QB/WR Florida


(I wrote stuff for most of them and did their weight and height and stuff like that but the website messed up and deleted it..... It took too much time for me to do it again right now. I'll do it later).
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:02 AM
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(We have too many needs).

2 DeAndre Hopkins WR Clemson - 6'1 200 and runs a 4.40.
2 Andre Ellington RB Clemson
2 Khaseem Greene OLB/S Rutgers
3 Robert Lester SS Alabama
3 Margus Hunt DE SMU
4 Johnathan Franklin RB UCLA
5 Mike Taylor OLB Wisconsin

6 A.J. Klein ILB Iowa State
6 Trey Burton FB/TE/QB/WR Florida


(I wrote stuff for most of them and did their weight and height and stuff like that but the website messed up and deleted it..... It took too much time for me to do it again right now. I'll do it later).



Not bad but I like this better.


1.C.J. Mosley LB Bama

2a.Ezekiel Ansah DE BYU

2b.Kenny Vaccaro SS Tx

3.Kenjon Barner RB Oregon

4.Stedman Bailey WR West Va

5.D.J. Swearinger S/CB NC St

5.(comp)Margus Hunt DE SMU

6.Micheal Williams TE Bama

6.Chris Jones DT Bowling Green

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Old 11-25-2012, 08:55 AM
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Never a fan of trading out of the first round. And we don't have a LOT of needs. We need a SS, OLB, and RB. I'd also like another CB and some overall depth.
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Old 11-25-2012, 05:24 PM
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The need for a WR is getting smaller as the weeks go by.
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Old 11-25-2012, 05:34 PM
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The need for a WR is getting smaller as the weeks go by.

Binns and Tate are not doing a thing. If we could get someone like Bailey in the 4th it's a no brainer IMO
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Binns and Tate are not doing a thing. If we could get someone like Bailey in the 4th it's a no brainer IMO
Haven't watched a game lately, have you?
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:02 PM
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Haven't watched a game lately, have you?
Binns hasn't done a thing in weeks and was inactive today. Tate does return kicks but not hardly anything else.Bailey is an upgrade over both.

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I guess you've ignored Sanu.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:14 PM
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I guess you've ignored Sanu.
AJ, Sanu, Hawkins, Jones(when healthy) are good! I'm just stating Bailey is an upgrade over Binns and Tate.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:42 PM
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Not bad but I like this better.


1.C.J. Mosley LB Bama

2a.Ezekiel Ansah DE BYU

2b.Kenny Vaccaro SS Tx

3.Kenjon Barner RB Oregon

4.Stedman Bailey WR West Va

5.D.J. Swearinger S/CB NC St

5.(comp)Margus Hunt DE SMU

6.Micheal Williams TE Bama

6.Chris Jones DT Bowling Green
Not bad but I like this better.

1. Jarvis Jones LB

2a. Star Lotulelei DT

2b. Bjoern Werner DE

3. Barrett Jones C

4. Alec Ogletree LB

5. Bacarri Rambo S

6. Matt Barkley QB

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Old 11-25-2012, 07:49 PM
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Not bad but I like this better.

1. Jarvis Jones LB

2a. Star Lotulelei DT

2b. Bjoern Werner DE

3. Barrett Jones C

4. Alec Ogletree LB

5. Bacarri Rambo S

6. Matt Barkley QB

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LOL yeah that would work!! But at least mine was a little more reasonable
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:40 PM
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I guess you've ignored Sanu.
Well let me be the guy.

AJ Green, obvious, great #1

Sanu, Love the guy seems to be a TD machine but do you believe he has the speed to fill our #2 spot? I think he is the perfect guy for us in the slot.

Hawkins, Well he isn't very consistent but is great for splash plays, I think he needs to be used in a limited role and not counted on full time in the slot.

Marvin Jones, Has done nothing but does have some promise but Id like to see more before I write off WR as a need.

Tate, Binns and Whalen are clearly not our answer at any of the WR spots.

If a guy falls to us and is the BPA I would have no problem drafting a WR, Green - Sanu - and a guy with legit speed and skills on the other side would be great for this Offense, all while bring in Hawkins and Jones when needed.
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Well let me be the guy.

AJ Green, obvious, great #1

Sanu, Love the guy seems to be a TD machine but do you believe he has the speed to fill our #2 spot? I think he is the perfect guy for us in the slot.

Hawkins, Well he isn't very consistent but is great for splash plays, I think he needs to be used in a limited role and not counted on full time in the slot.

Marvin Jones, Has done nothing but does have some promise but Id like to see more before I write off WR as a need.

Tate, Binns and Whalen are clearly not our answer at any of the WR spots.

If a guy falls to us and is the BPA I would have no problem drafting a WR, Green - Sanu - and a guy with legit speed and skills on the other side would be great for this Offense, all while bring in Hawkins and Jones when needed.
Whalen is a great #5, and can start in the slot.

Stop it.
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Binns and Tate are not doing a thing. If we could get someone like Bailey in the 4th it's a no brainer IMO
I wanted Brian Quick in last years draft because he was a guy with a high ceiling that just needed time to develop.... I am sticking with that this year.

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I don't think a first round receiver is necessary.

Depending on how Jones does through the course of the week, we may have 4 strong receivers.

There are much bigger needs, like LB, safety and possibly even CB if Newman, Allen and Pacman are gone at the end of the year.
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:23 PM
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Whalen is a great #5, and can start in the slot.

Stop it.
Whalen is our 3rd string slot WR.

I don't foresee Binns & Tate being Bengals in 2013.

WR1 - Green/Jones (still a HUGE unknown)
WR2 - ???/???
Slot - Sanu/Hawkins/Whalen

The Bengals still don't have a legit WR2.
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:28 PM
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Not bad but I like this better.


1.C.J. Mosley LB Bama

2a.Ezekiel Ansah DE BYU

2b.Kenny Vaccaro SS Tx

3.Kenjon Barner RB Oregon

4.Stedman Bailey WR West Va

5.D.J. Swearinger S/CB NC St

5.(comp)Margus Hunt DE SMU

6.Micheal Williams TE Bama

6.Chris Jones DT Bowling Green
I would like Mosley & love Vaccaro.

Isn't Ansah more of a project?

Barner feels like too much of a scat back. I don't know if the Bengals should/could wait for a 3rd down RB.
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I don't think a first round receiver is necessary.

Depending on how Jones does through the course of the week, we may have 4 strong receivers.

There are much bigger needs, like LB, safety and possibly even CB if Newman, Allen and Pacman are gone at the end of the year.
I agree I was never in the 1st round WR group, 2nd if someone falls and is the BPA if not then wait til 3 or later.
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I wanted Brian Quick in last years draft because he was a guy with a high ceiling that just needed time to develop.... I am sticking with that this year.

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1st off I NEVER said draft a WR in the 1st, but if someone like Stedman Bailey is there in the 4th it's a no brainer.

Others I like are Dri Archer(if he comes out), Quinton Patton,Markus Wheaton,Chris Harper,Cody Hoffman(if he comes out).
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(We have too many needs).

2 DeAndre Hopkins WR Clemson - 6'1 200 and runs a 4.40.
2 Andre Ellington RB Clemson
2 Khaseem Greene OLB/S Rutgers
3 Robert Lester SS Alabama
3 Margus Hunt DE SMU
4 Johnathan Franklin RB UCLA
5 Mike Taylor OLB Wisconsin
6 A.J. Klein ILB Iowa State
6 Trey Burton FB/TE/QB/WR Florida


(I wrote stuff for most of them and did their weight and height and stuff like that but the website messed up and deleted it..... It took too much time for me to do it again right now. I'll do it later).
I really, really like this. Especially the positions addressed in the slots allocated.

Some may scoff at drafting 2 offensive players first, but I could really get excited about adding a legit WR2 and an all-around RB early.

If Mike Williams, TE from Alabama was available in the 6th, I would grab him in a heart beat. I would also like to see a RT2 put somewhere in the mix as well.
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I would like Mosley & love Vaccaro.

Isn't Ansah more of a project?

Barner feels like too much of a scat back. I don't know if the Bengals should/could wait for a 3rd down RB.
Barner averaged 20 carries a game this year, I think he's proven he can carry his share of the load. He's the same size as Chris Johnson and has 4.3 speed. It's something we are missing.

I have a feeling it's going to come down to taking Barner or Franklin and I like Barner a little better because him being more of a homerun threat than Franklin.
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I really, really like this. Especially the positions addressed in the slots allocated.

Some may scoff at drafting 2 offensive players first, but I could really get excited about adding a legit WR2 and an all-around RB early.

If Mike Williams, TE from Alabama was available in the 6th, I would grab him in a heart beat. I would also like to see a RT2 put somewhere in the mix as well.

John Wetzel RT BC in the 6th could be a nice pickup.
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(We have too many needs).

2 DeAndre Hopkins WR Clemson - 6'1 200 and runs a 4.40.
2 Andre Ellington RB Clemson
2 Khaseem Greene OLB/S Rutgers
3 Robert Lester SS Alabama
3 Margus Hunt DE SMU
4 Johnathan Franklin RB UCLA
5 Mike Taylor OLB Wisconsin

6 A.J. Klein ILB Iowa State
6 Trey Burton FB/TE/QB/WR Florida


(I wrote stuff for most of them and did their weight and height and stuff like that but the website messed up and deleted it..... It took too much time for me to do it again right now. I'll do it later).

I'd say trading back to pick up DeAndre Hopkins + an extra 3rd rounder is an exciting move. Considering that, isn't Ellington + Franklin a little overkill?
Franklin would be plenty of RB in an offense that features our current weapons and Hopkins, unless you believe that Franklin isn't a 3-down back.

Using your draft model, I'd like to post an alternative, similar draft using some of this thread's ideas. I don't know much about rounds 4-6, but...Just for looks:

2 DeAndre Hopkins (WR)
2 Chase Thomas (OLB )
2 Ezekiel Ansah (DE)
3 Bacarri Rambo (S)
3 Johnathan Franklin (RB )
4 Adrian Bushell (CB )
5 Cornelius Washington (OLB )
6 Michael Williams (TE)
6 John Wetzel (OT)

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I'd say trading back to pick up DeAndre Hopkins + an extra 3rd rounder is an exciting move. Considering that, isn't Ellington + Franklin a little overkill?
Franklin would be plenty of RB in an offense that features our current weapons and Hopkins, unless you believe that Franklin isn't a 3-down back.

Using your draft model, I'd like to post an alternative, similar draft using some of this thread's ideas. I don't know much about rounds 4-6, but...Just for looks:

2 DeAndre Hopkins (WR)
2 Chase Thomas (OLB )
2 Ezekiel Ansah (DE)
3 Bacarri Rambo (S)
3 Johnathan Franklin (RB )
4 Adrian Bushell (CB )
5 Cornelius Washington (OLB )
6 Michael Williams (TE)
6 John Wetzel (OT)

I like them all but Washington, sub him out for Travis Long DE/OLB or Braden Hansen C/G BYU

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Barner averaged 20 carries a game this year, I think he's proven he can carry his share of the load. He's the same size as Chris Johnson and has 4.3 speed. It's something we are missing.

I have a feeling it's going to come down to taking Barner or Franklin and I like Barner a little better because him being more of a homerun threat than Franklin.
Isaiah Pead was a fast guy that had a lot of carries. Pead didn't translate to the NFL.

I like Barner as a CoP RB, but I am uncertain as an every down RB.
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