When Marvin wins, I see Marvin gets .....

[D's Nuts and Bolts]

Originally Posted by BengalYankee

Exactly!!!!

Where are the Marvin Haters???

Think where the team could be with a coach like Jim/Jon Harbaugh, Tomlin, etc. Marvin is middle of the pack and did a lot to get this team out of the dark ages. However he is one that is holding the team back from being better. The last three wins show that this team is talented not that they are being coached better.

[D's Nuts and Bolts]

Originally Posted by mbburch

Marvin needs to be fired.

We had a world-class football team before he came in here and screwed it all up.

And there are tons of A-list head coaches lining up to work for Mike Brown.

[/sarcasm]

He has gotten to the playoffs and gotten smashed in each game, I'll give a pass for 05.
I can't forget one thing though, Zero playoff wins in 22 years, longest of any 32 teams...enough said.

[Fan_in_Kettering]

The chances of Marvin Lewis being let go after this season are slim and none -- and slim just left town.

Maybe Marvin is responsible for the latest string of wins the Bengals have and maybe he's not. One thing is for sure: He's not hurting the team at all right now. A month ago I was all for poop-canning Marvin on the spot but I'm not certain this would be a good idea unless the Bengals take another nose dive and miss the playoffs.

[savagehenry54]

Originally Posted by Fan_in_Kettering

The chances of Marvin Lewis being let go after this season are slim and none -- and slim just left town.

Maybe Marvin is responsible for the latest string of wins the Bengals have and maybe he's not. One thing is for sure: He's not hurting the team at all right now. A month ago I was all for poop-canning Marvin on the spot but I'm not certain this would be a good idea unless the Bengals take another nose dive and miss the playoffs.

After ten years with no playoff wins....I need at least an AFCC game appearance to make me feel good about keeping Marvin on any longer.

But that would mean two road playoff wins. Playoffs we could have just not participated in and still ended up with the same amount of money via revenue sharing.

Playoff games mean MB has to spend all sorts of money on keeping the lights on the practice fields and the water running in the locker room, not to mention travel expenses for some 53 players and coaching staff etc..

A playoff run probably puts Lewis' job more in jeopardy than losing every game from here on out.

Last thing you wanna do as Bengals HC is run up MB's light bill.

[BengalYankee]

Originally Posted by savagehenry54

After ten years with no playoff wins....I need at least an AFCC game appearance to make me feel good about keeping Marvin on any longer.

But that would mean two road playoff wins. Playoffs we could have just not participated in and still ended up with the same amount of money via revenue sharing.

Playoff games mean MB has to spend all sorts of money on keeping the lights on the practice fields and the water running in the locker room, not to mention travel expenses for some 53 players and coaching staff etc..

A playoff run probably puts Lewis' job more in jeopardy than losing every game from here on out.

Last thing you wanna do as Bengals HC is run up MB's light bill.

Road playoff wins???

Now you are asking for him to do something no Bengal coach has ever done before in the history of this franchise.

[Shake n Blake]

Originally Posted by BengalYankee

Road playoff wins???

Now you are asking for him to do something no Bengal coach has ever done before in the history of this franchise.

How many road playoff games has this team even played in? I'm not well versed in NFL history pre-1990, but wasn't there fewer wild-cards back in the day? And we've only been in a road playoff game once since 1990.

[Ryan Mc]

Originally Posted by BengalYankee

Road playoff wins???

Now you are asking for him to do something no Bengal coach has ever done before in the history of this franchise.

So, in comment #69 you predicted Superbowl ... but, now it's insane for somebody to just want road playoff wins? Interesting how quickly the tune changed.

[BengalYankee]

Originally Posted by Ryan Mc

So, in comment #69 you predicted Superbowl ... but, now it's insane for somebody to just want road playoff wins? Interesting how quickly the tune changed.

My tune has not changed. But my opinion on Marvin does not depend on road playoff games, especially since Paul Brown, Sam Wyche, Forrest Gregg[My favorite Bengal coach] and other Bengal coach's have never won a road playoff game or for that matter a post season game outside of River Front Stadium.

[RumbleCat]

[Ryan Mc]

Originally Posted by BengalYankee

My tune has not changed. But my opinion on Marvin does not depend on road playoff games, especially since Paul Brown, Sam Wyche, Forrest Gregg[My favorite Bengal coach] and other Bengal coach's have never won a road playoff game or for that matter a post season game outside of River Front Stadium.

I guess if we don't expect/demand better than we've had in the past there's no reason why we'll ever get it. BTW, Lewis hasn't won a home playoff game either, in two tries. Wyche and Gregg at least did that.

[BengalYankee]

Originally Posted by Ryan Mc

I guess if we don't expect/demand better than we've had in the past there's no reason why we'll ever get it. BTW, Lewis hasn't won a home playoff game either, in two tries. Wyche and Gregg at least did that.

Yes, but I was responding to Savage's comments about road games.

I tend to respond to what a member writes about.

Originally Posted by savagehenry54
After ten years with no playoff wins....I need at least an AFCC game appearance to make me feel good about keeping Marvin on any longer.

But that would mean two road playoff wins. Playoffs we could have just not participated in and still ended up with the same amount of money via revenue sharing.

[Ryan Mc]

Originally Posted by BengalYankee

Yes, but I was responding to Savage's comments about road games.

I tend to respond to what a member writes about.

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Right. But, you suggested that expecting road playoff wins was unreasonable because it was holding Lewis to a standard that other former Bengals coaches hadn't reached (as I understood your point). I was responding to that suggestion, that it was unfair to ask Lewis to do stuff formal Bengals coaches hadn't achieved.

[BengalYankee]

Originally Posted by Ryan Mc

Right. But, you suggested that expecting road playoff wins was unreasonable because it was holding Lewis to a standard that other former Bengals coaches hadn't reached (as I understood your point). I was responding to that suggestion, that it was unfair to ask Lewis to do stuff formal Bengals coaches hadn't achieved.

Correct!!!

Sticking to that narrow issue of road playoff wins, you are correct. And it is that issue that I responded to. In the history of this francise no coach has won a game outside of River Front Stadium. That includes nuetral sites like the two SB games.

So if Savage's claim that he wins 2 road playoff games and that will suffice for him that Marvin could stay. I stand by my comments and you can infer correctly that it was unreasonable to hold Lewis to a standard that no other coach has done once.

Again, my favorite Bengal coach is Forrest Gregg and he was 2-2 in the post-season.

Note: On a side issue Paul Brown was 0-3 in the post season as a Bengals HC.

[THEBURG]

Might as well snuggle a little deeper in your sleeping bag, Marv is here for the fore- seeable future

[Mike M (the other one)]

Originally Posted by THE PISTONS

My personal pet peeve is when he gets blamed for playcalling...That's the coordinators, not the Head Coach.

Bratkowski would like to talk to you about that.

[BengalB]

We will see what Marvin is made of very soon. This team has the talent, athleticism, etc.

His future here should hang on how the rest of THIS season pans out.

[ODRAB14]

Personally, I think over these last two season essentially during rebuilding Marvin has done an excellent job. I have normally supported MArvin because frankly if Mikey gets someone else in here it could get worse before it gets better

[BengalYankee]

Originally Posted by BengalYankee

And other's get credit. Yet when the Bengals lose this forum is flooded with Marvin needs to be fired. And other's get a pass or excuses.

[Helldog]

Originally Posted by BengalYankee

hey BY, guess what?!




















ML shucks!

[BengalYankee]

Originally Posted by Whodey23

hey BY, guess what?!



ML shucks!

[Helldog]

Originally Posted by BengalYankee

That's not my address you creeper!

[Hammerthis]

Originally Posted by BengalYankee

Who Dey, Who Dey, Who Dey say they gone bash ML? "WhoDeeeeeey23!"
"He won't like ML, he hates everything!"

[Helldog]

Originally Posted by Hammerthis

Who Dey, Who Dey, Who Dey say they gone bash ML? "WhoDeeeeeey23!"
"He won't like ML, he hates everything!"

Catchy little jingle ya got going on there.

[Ryan Mc]

Originally Posted by BengalYankee

I'm still not letting Lewis off the hook for that 4-game losing streak. 3 of the 4 games were at home, and the only away game was against a winless team in the state of Ohio. 3 of 4 games were against teams that had losing records at the time we played them, and the only game against a team with a winning record came at home after a bye week. To go 0-4 during that stretch was an incredibly poor performance, and the only thing the last four weeks prove is that you can't blame that 0-4 stretch on Mike Brown, the salary cap or the team lacking in talent.

[cincyguy757]

Originally Posted by BengalYankee

And other's get credit. Yet when the Bengals lose this forum is flooded with Marvin needs to be fired. And other's get a pass or excuses.

Yesterday I was at the game and from my view the game plan was awesome. We moved the ball with ease but the PLAYERS made huge mistakes. Marvin should have caught the pass and Gresham fumbled. The game plan is normally spot on but the players have to execute. Marvin is doing his job and the results are there. I hate when people throw a guy under the bus, especially with what he has dealt with in Cincy. He finally has a Marvin TEAM and he will build upon it. Firing Marvin would dismantle this team and be for the worst.