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Old 11-26-2012, 10:24 PM
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Default Most important players to resign this season

We all know Geno HAS to be resigned, otherwise I will lose all faith in the FO. But other than Geno, who deserves to be resigned before the season is up or at least right away after the season?

Geno is #1
Gresham #2
Burfict #3 (he's playing on a UDFA salary and I believe he has outplayed that by a lot...I know he's only a rookie)
Adam Jones #4 (he has been playing solid football)


So far this season, Geno has been the best player at his position for sure. Gresham is a good solid TE, if we let him go we will either have to sign a big name TE in FA, or draft another TE within the first two rounds. I say just resign him and keep things gelling with Andy and his weapons.

People will be confused about resigning Burfict, but he showed he had faith and heart when he contacted Marvin. I think we need to show him the same and resign him to keep him here for a long time.

Other than that, who do YOU believe we need to resign?
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:27 PM
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We all know Geno HAS to be resigned, otherwise I will lose all faith in the FO. But other than Geno, who deserves to be resigned before the season is up or at least right away after the season?

Geno is #1
Gresham #2
Burfict #3 (he's playing on a UDFA salary and I believe he has outplayed that by a lot...I know he's only a rookie)
Adam Jones #4 (he has been playing solid football)


So far this season, Geno has been the best player at his position for sure. Gresham is a good solid TE, if we let him go we will either have to sign a big name TE in FA, or draft another TE within the first two rounds. I say just resign him and keep things gelling with Andy and his weapons.

People will be confused about resigning Burfict, but he showed he had faith and heart when he contacted Marvin. I think we need to show him the same and resign him to keep him here for a long time.

Other than that, who do YOU believe we need to resign?
Burfict is middle to low down the list.

Not a priority at all.
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Burfict is middle to low down the list.

Not a priority at all.
Pretty much. Still have him locked for a full year don't we?
And Gresham is way behind Andre in terms of importance.
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Burfict is middle to low down the list.

Not a priority at all.
Honestly, the ONLY priority we have is resigning Geno. That is all I ask. We don't need Rey, we don't need MJ (he is a product of Geno and Dunlaps play), we def don't need Manny Lawson either. I would rather resign Burfict to a legit deal than resign Rey or Manny.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:31 PM
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Pretty much. Still have him locked for a full year don't we?
And Gresham is way behind Andre in terms of importance.
good call, I totally forgot about Andre. I agree he is more important than Gresham as well.

Geno #1
Andre #2
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Honestly, the ONLY priority we have is resigning Geno. That is all I ask. We don't need Rey, we don't need MJ (he is a product of Geno and Dunlaps play), we def don't need Manny Lawson either. I would rather resign Burfict to a legit deal than resign Rey or Manny.
Andre Smith?
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Is no one arguing about Adam Jones? I think he can be a solid #2 corner for us next season as long as he is healthy. Terrance and Nate are probably gone after this season and I wouldn't mind seeing Leon, Adam, and Dre line up as our starting corners. If Ghee was as good as people said, maybe resign him. He should be super cheap.
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Andre Smith?
see the post right before yours
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Burfict is middle to low down the list.

Not a priority at all.
I'm pretty sure we can't re-sign Burfict this season anyways because of the new CBA.
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I'm pretty sure we can't re-sign Burfict this season anyways because of the new CBA.
I never knew that. I always thought resigning could be done at any point. I only want to resign him to inject him with a bunch of confidence. If the team shows they are wlling to stick up for him, he probably would play way harder for us knowing we had his back. I really think Burfict can be an animal.

Plus, I'd rather have him over Rey and Manny anyday. Higher ceiling
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I never knew that. I always thought resigning could be done at any point.
The new CBA changed up the method of re-signing guys on their rookie deals. Guys taken in the 2011 draft and beyond have to play 3 seasons before you can negotiate a new deal. Players taken before that draft can be negotiated whenever. We extended Peko and Whit after only two seasons.

However, this will be Geno's third year overall so it doesn't matter. The bottom line is that his extension should be priority #1 during this offseason so we can focus on AJ and Andy the following offseason.
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Geno and Andre are the only two musts. The rest are luxuries if at right price.
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I do agree that Geno and Andre are the musts. Since we CAN'T resign Burfict yet, what about Thomas Howard? Will he be back to form by next season?
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We all know Geno HAS to be resigned, otherwise I will lose all faith in the FO. But other than Geno, who deserves to be resigned before the season is up or at least right away after the season?

Geno is #1
Gresham #2
Burfict #3 (he's playing on a UDFA salary and I believe he has outplayed that by a lot...I know he's only a rookie)
Adam Jones #4 (he has been playing solid football)


So far this season, Geno has been the best player at his position for sure. Gresham is a good solid TE, if we let him go we will either have to sign a big name TE in FA, or draft another TE within the first two rounds. I say just resign him and keep things gelling with Andy and his weapons.

People will be confused about resigning Burfict, but he showed he had faith and heart when he contacted Marvin. I think we need to show him the same and resign him to keep him here for a long time.

Other than that, who do YOU believe we need to resign?
I believe the new rules in the CBA prevent us from renegotiating Burfict until after his 3rd year in the league. Michael Johnson is a big one to get reupped for me. He will be an UFA after this year.
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Honestly, the ONLY priority we have is resigning Geno. That is all I ask. We don't need Rey, we don't need MJ (he is a product of Geno and Dunlaps play), we def don't need Manny Lawson either. I would rather resign Burfict to a legit deal than resign Rey or Manny.
What?? How can MJ be a product of Dunlap when he has better stats than Dunlap? You don't get 8 sacks 2/3 of the way through a season by luck. It's either skills or steroids but far from just being lucky to have guys around him.
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Hope we can resign michael johnson to a good deal
resign rey maluaga to a cap friendly deal
franchise andre only way we keep him. draft a replacement in the draft let him walk following year.
resign geno and dunlap to be proactive before next year.
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1. Atkins
2. Smith
3. Gresham
4. MJ
5. Burfict

Although, I think Atkins, Gresham, and Burfict are most likely to stay. Smith might want but time money, along with MJ.
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Players we should re-sign:

1) Michael Johnson
2) Thomas Howard
3) Andre Smith
4) Adam Jones
5) Andrew Hawkins
6) Clark Harris
7) Kevin Huber
8) Mike Nugent
9) Wallace Gilberry
10) Dan Skuta
11) Cedric Peerman
12) Cris Crocker

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1) Geno Atkins
2) Carlos Dunlap
3) Jermaine Gresham

I like Geathers and would like to see him back. He is a leader on our defense. He is versatile in that he can play inside or out. He is our best run stopping DE and gets way more pressure on the QB than he is given credit for on these boards.

With that said he would have to come back on a greatly reduced deal.
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Players we should re-sign:

1) Michael Johnson YES
2) Thomas Howard MAYBE
3) Andre Smith YES
4) Adam Jones YES
5) Andrew Hawkins YES
6) Clark Harris SURE
7) Kevin Huber YES (done better than expected this season)
8) Mike Nugent YES, but deal might be an issue
9) Wallace Gilberry YES if value is right
10) Dan Skuta MAYBE
11) Cedric Peerman YES
12) Cris Crocker MAYBE

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1) Geno Atkins If we don't the boards will start an Ohio river fire riot.
2) Carlos Dunlap Another that needs locked in
3) Jermaine Gresham His occasional holds and drops erk me but still a must

I like Geathers and would like to see him back. He is a leader on our defense. He is versatile in that he can play inside or out. He is our best run stopping DE and gets way more pressure on the QB than he is given credit for on these boards.

With that said he would have to come back on a greatly reduced deal.
Geathers and Sims might be victims of the axe next year. We will be getting a DE in the draft most likely and Sims will be victim of the youngsters growing up.
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What?? How can MJ be a product of Dunlap when he has better stats than Dunlap? You don't get 8 sacks 2/3 of the way through a season by luck. It's either skills or steroids but far from just being lucky to have guys around him.
The same way Robert Geathers got a fat contract because of Sam Adams and Justin Smith.


MJ is a great player but a lot of his sacks have been clean up sacks while QBs scramble away from Geno and Dunlap.
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Hope we can resign michael johnson to a good deal
resign rey maluaga to a cap friendly deal
franchise andre only way we keep him. draft a replacement in the draft let him walk following year.
resign geno and dunlap to be proactive before next year.
gresham only if its fair to both sides dont break the bank for him.
Why would you ever let a player like A.Smith walk>?

It's not like there is a OT tree that you can just casually pick another player from.
A.Smith hands down is the best T from his draft class.
Just sign the man.
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I never knew that. I always thought resigning could be done at any point. I only want to resign him to inject him with a bunch of confidence. If the team shows they are wlling to stick up for him, he probably would play way harder for us knowing we had his back. I really think Burfict can be an animal.

Plus, I'd rather have him over Rey and Manny anyday. Higher ceiling
This has already happened. We gave him a shot to get on a 53 man roster when no one else even thought about drafting him. Then we show the confidence in him to allow him to start. I'd say the team has stuck up for him plenty already. I'm willing to bet Burfict feels appreciated enough.
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We all know Geno HAS to be resigned, otherwise I will lose all faith in the FO. But other than Geno, who deserves to be resigned before the season is up or at least right away after the season?

Geno is #1
Gresham #2
Burfict #3 (he's playing on a UDFA salary and I believe he has outplayed that by a lot...I know he's only a rookie)
Adam Jones #4 (he has been playing solid football)


So far this season, Geno has been the best player at his position for sure. Gresham is a good solid TE, if we let him go we will either have to sign a big name TE in FA, or draft another TE within the first two rounds. I say just resign him and keep things gelling with Andy and his weapons.

People will be confused about resigning Burfict, but he showed he had faith and heart when he contacted Marvin. I think we need to show him the same and resign him to keep him here for a long time.

Other than that, who do YOU believe we need to resign?
Since you're asking, why didn't you include in your post all of the players that have contracts expiring after this season?

That would've been nice so that we could actually rate/judge them all. Geno, Gresham, Andre and MJ currently goes with out saying that they need to be retained.
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The same way Robert Geathers got a fat contract because of Sam Adams and Justin Smith.


MJ is a great player but a lot of his sacks have been clean up sacks while QBs scramble away from Geno and Dunlap.
Then please explain the sacks he gets when neither is on the field... Why do people continue to down play MJ? He is athletically more gifted than Dunlap, he is also not made of glass like Dunlap. If you ask me I would rather make sure to keep Johnson than Dunlap based off of production and durability. Carlos had 1 good season and hasnt been on the field consistently since. Why are people hating Johnson?
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We all know Geno HAS to be resigned, otherwise I will lose all faith in the FO. But other than Geno, who deserves to be resigned before the season is up or at least right away after the season?

Geno is #1
Gresham #2
Burfict #3 (he's playing on a UDFA salary and I believe he has outplayed that by a lot...I know he's only a rookie)
Adam Jones #4 (he has been playing solid football)


So far this season, Geno has been the best player at his position for sure. Gresham is a good solid TE, if we let him go we will either have to sign a big name TE in FA, or draft another TE within the first two rounds. I say just resign him and keep things gelling with Andy and his weapons.

People will be confused about resigning Burfict, but he showed he had faith and heart when he contacted Marvin. I think we need to show him the same and resign him to keep him here for a long time.

Other than that, who do YOU believe we need to resign?
Atkins isn't a free agent. I agree that we must extend him though. Burfict has about 3 years left on his deal.

Remember, Burfict's issues in college were with attitude. I want to see him get through a full offseason and stay out of trouble and come into next season prepared before I give him more money. You want him to have to continue to earn his keep. Some guys can't handle the money especially if they had existing issues.
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