Palmer to file charges...

[whodey21]

Originally Posted by shaolinghost

BTW, I'm not saying Carson doesn't share some of the blame, but jeez, stop with the holier than thou attitudes. Life isn't black and white.

Life isn't, but contracts are. You really want to defend a crybaby millionaire?

[shaolinghost]

Originally Posted by whodey21

Life isn't, but contracts are. You really want to defend a crybaby millionaire?

Yes and no. There are always exit clauses for both sides in these types of contracts. For the player, the option to retire, thus nullifying the contract is available. For the owner, there's the option to release the player at any time for any reason.

Contracts are also almost always renegotiable.

Defend him? I'd say I'm more being objective than defending him. If anything I get bored and enjoy debating/fact finding.

[Magikod]

Originally Posted by SunsetBengal

Assault and Battery against the Bengals defense...

Gross Negligence against his own OL...

Mental Cruelty against Mike Brown...for trading him to a worse place than the Bengals.


Oh, and Dereliction of Duty against the officiating crew for foiling his comeback bid...





Welcome back to PBS Carson.

I thought you meant on the fan who "supposedly" poored beer on him.

Regardless you made me laugh with your post. Rep to you!

[THEBURG]

Originally Posted by bfine32

We need a do-over, I see no blood.

[XenoMorph]

Originally Posted by shaolinghost

People keep bringing that up, but he signed that extension in 2005. Let's look at what was going on then:

He had only been in the league for 2 seasons
The Bengals had a new coach with a winning pedigree(at the time)
Coming off an 11-5 season with a division title
A winning record as a starting QB
Had a great receiver in Chad Johnson
A great possession receiver in TJ Housh
A great Oline
A great running back
A defense that could at least create turnovers

Everything seemed to be going right. Then:
Devastating knee injury in his first ever playoff game
His center retires due to injury
His RT leaves and is replaced with someone not nearly as good
His LG leaves and is replaced with someone not nearly as good
His LT leaves, but Whit was a fine replacement
Chad turns into a media *****, changes his name to Ochocinco, and his play on the field suffers tremendously
TJ leaves and is never truly replaced
The Defense can no longer create nearly as many turnovers with Zimmer at the helm
The running game goes to crap
Serious elbow injury

All those except for the first 2 happened in 2007-2008

2009 looks like the Bengals have turned it around.
The running game is good, but still not a good as pre 2007
Chad is performing well again
The defense isn't giving up hardly anything
The line isn't total crap
They finish 10-6 with a division title

But...2010 comes around
No longer have Chris Henry
Running game goes back to garbage
The line isn't good
Chad is his diva self again
TO only performs for half the season
The defense goes back to below average
After a 4-12 season(the 2nd in 3 seasons), Marvin is given an extension, but Carson is asked to take a pay cut.

Now, tell me that you wouldn't be fed up with all that. Honestly.

BTW, I'm not saying Carson doesn't share some of the blame, but jeez, stop with the holier than thou attitudes. Life isn't black and white.

Yes its the FO fault Henry Died
TJ left
JJoe Left
Odell flamed out
Pollack broke his neck

etcetcetc

your excuses are lame.

The FO did everything the could for palmer. Tried to lock up Bookend tackles (who both got hurt soon after) they brought in every FA WR he asked for and he couldnt get it done.

Carson was never asked to take a pay cut. except when he asked for a trade and forced himself to a pay cut.

[THEBURG]

Originally Posted by shaolinghost

People keep bringing that up, but he signed that extension in 2005. Let's look at what was going on then:

He had only been in the league for 2 seasons
The Bengals had a new coach with a winning pedigree(at the time)
Coming off an 11-5 season with a division title
A winning record as a starting QB
Had a great receiver in Chad Johnson
A great possession receiver in TJ Housh
A great Oline
A great running back
A defense that could at least create turnovers

Everything seemed to be going right. Then:
Devastating knee injury in his first ever playoff game
His center retires due to injury
His RT leaves and is replaced with someone not nearly as good
His LG leaves and is replaced with someone not nearly as good
His LT leaves, but Whit was a fine replacement
Chad turns into a media *****, changes his name to Ochocinco, and his play on the field suffers tremendously
TJ leaves and is never truly replaced
The Defense can no longer create nearly as many turnovers with Zimmer at the helm
The running game goes to crap
Serious elbow injury

All those except for the first 2 happened in 2007-2008

2009 looks like the Bengals have turned it around.
The running game is good, but still not a good as pre 2007
Chad is performing well again
The defense isn't giving up hardly anything
The line isn't total crap
They finish 10-6 with a division title

But...2010 comes around
No longer have Chris Henry
Running game goes back to garbage
The line isn't good
Chad is his diva self again
TO only performs for half the season
The defense goes back to below average
After a 4-12 season(the 2nd in 3 seasons), Marvin is given an extension, but Carson is asked to take a pay cut.

Now, tell me that you wouldn't be fed up with all that. Honestly.

BTW, I'm not saying Carson doesn't share some of the blame, but jeez, stop with the holier than thou attitudes. Life isn't black and white.

Life might not be, but I bet Carson was Monday morning.

[SunsetBengal]

Originally Posted by THEBURG

We need a do-over, I see no blood.

No, but you do see a sad, sad face. It almost looks as if he's getting ready to shed a tear...

[pdub2005]

Originally Posted by crazyjdawg

The grass isn't always greener apparently.

yeah, but you can't see the grass in oakland. The ground is littered with bullets and shell casings