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Old 11-29-2012, 11:46 PM
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Look, I know we have great, young talented receivers, and they are playing at a very high level. But I think James Urban deserves a lot of credit. Seeing the way Mo came on the last few games. Seeing how AJ was able to transition to the NFL so quick. Seeing how he makes do with players like Binns and Hawkins (UDFA) and turns them into solid players. A lot of credit goes to the players themselves, but James Urban also deserves to be recognized. I don't know if anyone else made a thread about this, but that's how I feel. Does anyone else feel the same way?
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Old 11-29-2012, 11:54 PM
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Okay, think about it. Hawkins was cut from teams that weren't that talented. James Urban turned him into an explosive receiver (not in terms of stats, but playmaking) that can make splash plays at any given time. Is it coincidence that Jerome Simpson's first productive year came under James Urban (well he did develop a little the year before too I guess)? Is it coincidence that A.J. Green put up one of the more impressive rookie performances in the last few years? I mean the list goes on. This season, a lot of our receivers are playing solid football. AJ is great, but the other guys are pretty solid. I think a lot of credit goes to the players and their dedication. But what about James Urban, we should recognize him a little no?

*edit* I see more blocking down the field by the WR's as well...
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:04 AM
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I like urban, I think he was pushing for sanu big as well. Based on mo sanu comments after the draft

I'm glad we stole him from Philly.
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James would have quit if we still had Chad and TO.. I think the main reason he left Philly is he got tired of dealing with Desean Jackson.
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Okay, think about it. Hawkins was cut from teams that weren't that talented. James Urban turned him into an explosive receiver (not in terms of stats, but playmaking) that can make splash plays at any given time.
Not in terms of stats..... umm aren't stats most important in this situation?

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Is it coincidence that Jerome Simpson's first productive year came under James Urban (well he did develop a little the year before too I guess)?
Yes. Simpson played due to injuries, That's like giving someone credit for replacing Howard with Burfict.

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Is it coincidence that A.J. Green put up one of the more impressive rookie performances in the last few years?
AJ is a special player. All credit should go him for that.
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:15 AM
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1.Not in terms of stats..... umm aren't stats most important in this situation?

2.Yes. Simpson played due to injuries, That's like giving someone credit for replacing Howard with Burfict.

3.AJ is a special player. All credit should go him for that.
1. Stats are not all that matters being in games and making plays matter. Getting guys to be in the right position and make plays. Look at Kampernick in San Fran, he spread the ball around and his WRs were where they needed to be to make plays. Non had spectacular yards but all made plays that is a credit to solid coaching

2. Urban helped Simpson play to his talents and it showed when he got a shot. Are you just trolling?

3. A.J. is a special player this much is true however even special players need help from coaches to take that step to the next level. Film room preperation and preparing for what the defense is going to throw at you is one of the most important aspects of a coach in the NFL and it seems like week in and week out AJ is prepared for what they are going to throw at him. Though AJ deserves a ton of the credit because he makes the plays on the field it is wrong to diminish the role a coach plays.



I do think Urban deserves a good bit of credit for what he has done in the progression of the rookies. Sanu has been playing great since he got the shot and I have a feeling Jones was set to blow up before he hurt his knee. This is a credit to Urban for seeing WR talent and coaching them up and getting them ready for their shots. I think this week will tell us where he has Jones at I have a feeling we will see him getting a decent amount of snaps. I do thing Urban has done a great job. Except for the blemishes created by Binns and Tate. Though even Tate has come on a little bit more of late.
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How did we steal him from Philly? Sorry, I am just not familiar with the situation.
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1. Stats are not all that matters being in games and making plays matter. Getting guys to be in the right position and make plays. Look at Kampernick in San Fran, he spread the ball around and his WRs were where they needed to be to make plays. Non had spectacular yards but all made plays that is a credit to solid coaching

2. Urban helped Simpson play to his talents and it showed when he got a shot. Are you just trolling?

3. A.J. is a special player this much is true however even special players need help from coaches to take that step to the next level. Film room preperation and preparing for what the defense is going to throw at you is one of the most important aspects of a coach in the NFL and it seems like week in and week out AJ is prepared for what they are going to throw at him. Though AJ deserves a ton of the credit because he makes the plays on the field it is wrong to diminish the role a coach plays.



I do think Urban deserves a good bit of credit for what he has done in the progression of the rookies. Sanu has been playing great since he got the shot and I have a feeling Jones was set to blow up before he hurt his knee. This is a credit to Urban for seeing WR talent and coaching them up and getting them ready for their shots. I think this week will tell us where he has Jones at I have a feeling we will see him getting a decent amount of snaps. I do thing Urban has done a great job. Except for the blemishes created by Binns and Tate. Though even Tate has come on a little bit more of late.
We still have no solid #2 WR. Sanu did have 2 TD's last week but very limited yardage. You're giving Urban way too much credit.
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I think urban has to be given credit. Lawless do you REALLY think that stats are all that matter
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I think urban has to be given credit. Lawless do you REALLY think that stats are all that matter
I didn't say that but they do matter.

Case in point... the last few weeks Sanu has been a decent #2 for Andy and we won those games but before that we had no real #2 and our offense sputtered....

I'm not one to give credit for good work and not give blame for bad work nor vice versa.
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I didn't say that but they do matter.

Case in point... the last few weeks Sanu has been a decent #2 for Andy and we won those games but before that we had no real #2 and our offense sputtered....

I'm not one to give credit for good work and not give blame for bad work nor vice versa.
You can't blame Urban for the players he was given to work with...Three undrafted free agents (Hawkins, Binns, Whalen)....Two rookies (Sanu, Lewis)...And a guy released from another team (Tate).

Urban has done a great job.
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James would have quit if we still had Chad and TO.. I think the main reason he left Philly is he got tired of dealing with Desean Jackson.
Urban was the QB coach at Philly, not WR coach.
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Look, I know we have great, young talented receivers, and they are playing at a very high level. But I think James Urban deserves a lot of credit. Seeing the way Mo came on the last few games. Seeing how AJ was able to transition to the NFL so quick. Seeing how he makes do with players like Binns and Hawkins (UDFA) and turns them into solid players. A lot of credit goes to the players themselves, but James Urban also deserves to be recognized. I don't know if anyone else made a thread about this, but that's how I feel. Does anyone else feel the same way?


Sure do, it is not a coincidence our young receivers have transitioned so well to the pro game.

Urban is a very good receiver coach, one of the best in the league.
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Sure do, it is not a coincidence our young receivers have transitioned so well to the pro game.

Urban is a very good receiver coach, one of the best in the league.
i was very excited when we picked him up

him coming from a WCO in philly im sure helped this franchise get back to its roots.
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i was very excited when we picked him up

him coming from a WCO in philly im sure helped this franchise get back to its roots.
We have a good QB coach (Zampese), and OC who used to play QB (Gruden), and a WR coach who was a successful QB coach (Urban).

I doubt all of these guys work one-on-one with Andy, but you know they put their heads together in meetings and have all contributed to his development.
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Very happy to see a promising young team along with a promising coaching staff.
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I'm grateful for Urban teaching his receivers how to block.
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Urban was the QB coach at Philly, not WR coach.
Yeah, a lot of people don't seem to realize that.

On a side not though, Michael Vick has ****** ever since Urban left...
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Plus he sings really well and is married to Nicole Kidman
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Urban deserves some credit no doubt. But his coaching has definitely been bolstered by the acquisition of Hue Jackson in the off season. Yes there is something to the effect that Hue cannot coach the offense, but I don't the is taken 100% to the letter behind closed doors.


Urban is doing well, but don't forget the Hue effect. The Raiders won't...
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