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Old 11-29-2012, 06:47 PM
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I'm going with CFA at this point but as long as he stays clean and has a good combine, like you stated he should a 5th or 6th. He started out ok since the arrest. He has quietly been doing charity work. He was living with Patrick Peterson's family for a bit who I think got him with a lawyer at Galaxy Sports. He's been keeping a low profile and training for the last month, I heard.
Didn't know that about Peterson family helping him out.
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We asked him about the time he fumbled without being hit and the time he threw an interception without being pressured and the other pick he threw -- under pressure but stupidly off his back foot toward double coverage. All of that happened on three consecutive possession, a 10-minute fusillade of fail that turned a one-possession game into a blowout loss...

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Didn't know that about Peterson family helping him out.
Pretty sure he's going to be represented by Peterson's agent as well.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:57 PM
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Incredibly talented player, yet can't stay out of trouble off the field... sounds familiar...

I don't want him.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:04 PM
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I would be fine with bringing him in as a udfa, but I don't really know what position he would play besides return man.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:14 PM
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McShay said he could be a 3rd round pick.

That is where he would be drafted if he was clean off the field IMO.

I bet someone throws a 5th or 6th at him (hopefully not us).
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McShay said he could be a 3rd round pick.

That is where he would be drafted if he was clean off the field IMO.

I bet someone throws a 5th or 6th at him (hopefully not us).
McShay is a tool.

“Most people at my level feel he is a joke,” a veteran NFL scout told us
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:07 PM
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If he goes undrafted, give Adams Jones a chance to help him turn his life around. He's got to be better than Tate at returning kicks and punts.
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Not that I am defending McShay but I find it a bit interesting that the unnamed scout is talking about how McShay does not know what he is talking about and brings up how good of a prospect Clausen is who has done absloutly nothing in the NFL.
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If he goes undrafted, give Adams Jones a chance to help him turn his life around. He's got to be better than Tate at returning kicks and punts.
That's my issue with Mathieu. It looks like he will be strictly a KR/PR in the NFL. I don't see how a team could justify spending even a mid round draft pick on that.
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Devin Hester and the Bears would beg to differ
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That's my issue with Mathieu. It looks like he will be strictly a KR/PR in the NFL. I don't see how a team could justify spending even a mid round draft pick on that.
PFT says several scouts project Mathieu going in the 4th round.

I would definitely take a chance on him in the 4th-5th round.

He can basically be groomed to take the role that Adam Jones has been playing (CB/PR).

Only difference is, I would move him over to slot corner.
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Not really the same as Burfict. More like Janoris Jenkins and he went in the 2nd round. I was of the opinion that Mathieu stayed at LSU to play one more year of ball; however, with this new development i see him declaring and going in the mid-rounds.

Folks could put together a "Didn't play this year" draft and do pretty good: Mathieu, Dyer, Armstrong... am I missing anybody?
I heard Kiper yesterday predict 3rd or 4th. fwiw.
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Devin Hester and the Bears would beg to differ
Hester was a fine CB prospect who never panned out on defense. The returns were bonus in college.
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Devin Hester and the Bears would beg to differ
So you think Mathieu will have the kind of impact Hester did?

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PFT says several scouts project Mathieu going in the 4th round.

I would definitely take a chance on him in the 4th-5th round.

He can basically be groomed to take the role that Adam Jones has been playing (CB/PR).

Only difference is, I would move him over to slot corner.
So you would play him at CB?

My issue is that he is not only severely undersized, but he struggles in coverage.

He has great instincts and made a ton of impact plays in college, I just don't think he will ever achieve a similar level of success in the NFL.
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So you think Mathieu will have the kind of impact Hester did?



So you would play him at CB?

My issue is that he is not only severely undersized, but he struggles in coverage.

He has great instincts and made a ton of impact plays in college, I just don't think he will ever achieve a similar level of success in the NFL.
He would be a return guy and prevent DB. line up 20 yards down field and go get the ball.
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:35 PM
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A pot smoker with a single digit IQ. What a shock.

More evidence that pot smokers are idiots and you want them nowhere near your team.
Barrack Obama
Bill Clinton
Bill Murray
Steve Jobs
Bill Gates
Chris Rock
Conan O'brien
Francis Ford Coppella
Gary Johnson- Former Governor of New Mexico
Harrison Ford
Howerd Stern
John Kerry
Johnny Cash
John Wayne
Mike Bloomberg- Mayor of New York City/Billionaire

And that's just a very small list of NOTABLE marijuana users.

Would you say all these guys are idiots too? Staying totally fried all day everyday is one thing, but smoking a joint once or twice a day has no effect on your overall intelligence, nor is it indicative of how successful you'll be.

In fact, some of the greatest minds in history used/use MJ.
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So you think Mathieu will have the kind of impact Hester did?



So you would play him at CB?

My issue is that he is not only severely undersized, but he struggles in coverage.

He has great instincts and made a ton of impact plays in college, I just don't think he will ever achieve a similar level of success in the NFL.
Plenty of small corners have had success in the NFL. Dre Bly and Cortland Finnegan were/are similar in size and they've had very successful careers. Most slot receivers are smaller anyway.
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Plenty of small corners have had success in the NFL. Dre Bly and Cortland Finnegan were/are similar in size and they've had very successful careers. Most slot receivers are smaller anyway.
Brandon Flowers is only 5'9".
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Francis Ford Coppella
Gary Johnson- Former Governor of New Mexico
Harrison Ford
Howerd Stern
John Kerry
Johnny Cash
John Wayne
Mike Bloomberg- Mayor of New York City/Billionaire

And that's just a very small list of NOTABLE marijuana users.

Would you say all these guys are idiots too? Staying totally fried all day everyday is one thing, but smoking a joint once or twice a day has no effect on your overall intelligence, nor is it indicative of how successful you'll be.

In fact, some of the greatest minds in history used/use MJ.
All of them? No.
Some of them, yes
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Plenty of small corners have had success in the NFL. Dre Bly and Cortland Finnegan were/are similar in size and they've had very successful careers. Most slot receivers are smaller anyway.
Janoris Jenkins is small and was a shutdown CB in college and is playing pretty well in the NFL.

It would be one thing if Mathieu was just undersized (he looks like he is 5' 7"), but he is not a great cover guy. He got beat quite a bit, and I don't see how he will have success in the NFL if he struggled with college WRs.
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So you think Mathieu will have the kind of impact Hester did?

I think he has the potential to replicate the success that Hester has had as a return man.

For this reason i wouldn't be surprised if a team used a 3rd or even a low 2nd on him.
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I would draft him and play him at Saftey. Outside of his affinity for marijuana, the only negatives are his size and technique. The latter can be vastly improved with coaching. Everything else this kid has.
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I would draft him and play him at Saftey. Outside of his affinity for marijuana, the only negatives are his size and technique. The latter can be vastly improved with coaching. Everything else this kid has.
Use him exactly as Les Miles did at LSU and how Polamalu is used by the Steelers. He roams every where from the "Star" position using his athleticism and ball skills to make plays. He's small but he sticks his head into a tackle well.
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[quote=shaolinghost;2704409]Barrack Obama
Bill Clinton
Bill Murray
Steve Jobs
Bill Gates
Chris Rock
Conan O'brien
Francis Ford Coppella
Gary Johnson- Former Governor of New Mexico
Harrison Ford
Howerd Stern
John Kerry
Johnny Cash
John Wayne
Mike Bloomberg- Mayor of New York City/Billionaire

And that's just a very small list of NOTABLE marijuana users.
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C;mon man, not the famous doper list again.

It's much easier to find a few exceptions to the rule, than to try and explain why the vast majority of dopers aren't famous and successful...

I could come up with a list much longer than that, comprised of regular citizens that I have actually known in my lifetime that have failed or held themselves back from bettering themselves by smoking or continuing to smoke dope on a regualar basis.


As for the Honey Badger? Sure, I'd love to have him on the Bengals with a 4th or 5th round pick. Leon Hall should be good for a few more years, Dre Kirk should be able to take over as Newman fades into retirement, Mathieu would make a suitable player to take over the Adam Jones role as the 3rd CB and PR/KR position.
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Barrack Obama
Bill Clinton
Bill Murray
Steve Jobs
Bill Gates
Chris Rock
Conan O'brien
Francis Ford Coppella
Gary Johnson- Former Governor of New Mexico
Harrison Ford
Howerd Stern
John Kerry
Johnny Cash
John Wayne
Mike Bloomberg- Mayor of New York City/Billionaire

And that's just a very small list of NOTABLE marijuana users.
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C;mon man, not the famous doper list again.

It's much easier to find a few exceptions to the rule, than to try and explain why the vast majority of dopers aren't famous and successful...

I could come up with a list much longer than that, comprised of regular citizens that I have actually known in my lifetime that have failed or held themselves back from bettering themselves by smoking or continuing to smoke dope on a regualar basis.


As for the Honey Badger? Sure, I'd love to have him on the Bengals with a 4th or 5th round pick. Leon Hall should be good for a few more years, Dre Kirk should be able to take over as Newman fades into retirement, Mathieu would make a suitable player to take over the Adam Jones role as the 3rd CB and PR/KR position.
How do you explain why the vast majority of non-dopers aren't famous and successful?

He was just trying to say that all pot smokers are not idiots.

I have seen legal prescription drugs ruin more lives than I have weed.

Sure there is overkill with anything. But smoking the ganja doesn't make you an instant moron.
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