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Old 12-06-2012, 12:15 PM
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Just about anything, or anybody would be better than Mays.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:15 PM
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Just wanted to give him some serious props. He comes in off of the streets at mid-season, in playing shape,steps right in, and immediately improves the defense.
The defense has played much better with Chris in there and the team has reeled off four in a row.
He looks healthy this season and is showing the younger safeties how it's done.
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I gotta say that i was not happy about bringing him in at the time but he has played very
well and has helped Rey out big time in terms of game smarts. He has done a great job.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:18 PM
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Yeah I hope we keep crocker to, i'm sure he knows he has 1-3 more years if he's lucky in this league (based on his mind not body).

I would love for him to stay and groom whoevers the most talented/athletic safety in the draft.

I was really skeptical with him coming back and didn't really know if i believed the whole "i wasn't healthy last season" thing but its pretty obvious now.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:23 PM
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I can't forget how he got stiffed armed in last PO game, it always come to my mind that will happen again, that he will miss a tackle. But he is contributing a lot and playing very well in last few games. Hope he maitain this level for a while. BTW, he was not picked by anybody else after
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:26 PM
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I can't forget how he got stiffed armed in last PO game, it always come to my mind that will happen again, that he will miss a tackle. But he is contributing a lot and playing very well in last few games. Hope he maitain this level for a while. BTW, he was not picked by anybody else after


That is hard to get out of your mind.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:01 PM
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It's because he's intelligent. While Nelson is very good, he can't make good secondary calls. The revolving door at SS didn't help either. Crocker doesn't have super ability, and that will eventually bite us, but as of now he's taking advantage of mistakes

You're right. While he has been getting old he apparently was nursing an injury towards the end of last year. And I had the feeling that he was trying to compensate for the other dbs last year and trying to do too much.

Bottom line is he has the smarts. We need to draft a safety who is as smart as he is athletic and keep Crock around long enough to train him.

The other thing is we need to be careful about burning our players out in training camp - especially the older ones. Getting him almost at mid season (and after surgery) gave him the fresh legs to make the plays he was seeing.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:52 PM
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I can't forget how he got stiffed armed in last PO game, it always come to my mind that will happen again, that he will miss a tackle. But he is contributing a lot and playing very well in last few games. Hope he maitain this level for a while. BTW, he was not picked by anybody else after
Name a player who hasn't missed a tackle....
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:10 PM
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Name a player who hasn't missed a tackle....


Missing a tackle and being completely embarassed are a bit different.

That was completely embarassing, couldn't even knock the guy out of bounds.

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Old 12-06-2012, 06:18 PM
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Lets just hope we don't face the Texans in the playoffs.

In all seriousness, Crock was a breath of fresh air after the Mays experiment. He's definitely a smart safety. I would love to have him back next year (to tutor a draft pick).
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:15 PM
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It's because he's intelligent. While Nelson is very good, he can't make good secondary calls. The revolving door at SS didn't help either. Crocker doesn't have super ability, and that will eventually bite us, but as of now he's taking advantage of mistakes
The question to me is, can he teach Mays how to play the SS position in the NFL? I'm not sold on Iloka and I'm not sure how much skill will really be available to us in this draft at that position. I still think Mays could work out, if someone like Crocker took him under his wing and taught him about playing SS in the NFL.

Back to the OPs point, Crocker does deserve a lot of credit and potentially a new contract for next year.
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The question to me is, can he teach Mays how to play the SS position in the NFL? I'm not sold on Iloka and I'm not sure how much skill will really be available to us in this draft at that position. I still think Mays could work out, if someone like Crocker took him under his wing and taught him about playing SS in the NFL.

Back to the OPs point, Crocker does deserve a lot of credit and potentially a new contract for next year.

I would suggest for him to come here as an assistant DB coach, because you don't pay a player to "teach" other, they are competing for a spot in the roster and playing time.
If you want to teach somebody, let the coach teach, not a teamate
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:21 PM
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I hope the FO has learned their lesson. If you wanna move on from somebody, you need to have a viable replacement.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:23 PM
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I would suggest for him to come here as an assistant DB coach, because you don't pay a player to "teach" other, they are competing for a spot in the roster and playing time.
If you want to teach somebody, let the coach teach, not a teamate
Mentoring happens all the time in the NFL. It's one thing to teach from the sideline as a coach, it's another to teach by showing the pupil from the field. In game film, as a player, Crocker can explain exactly what he was thinking and what his calls were and why. No coach can do that for a player.
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Mentoring happens all the time in the NFL. It's one thing to teach from the sideline as a coach, it's another to teach by showing the pupil from the field. In game film, as a player, Crocker can explain exactly what he was thinking and what his calls were and why. No coach can do that for a player.


I don't think it is a coincidence that our young O-line has started to gel.

I credit a lot of this to Whitworth. I have seen PA do bad in the past and i am a bit hesitant to give him all the credit.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:34 PM
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I don't think it is a coincidence that our young O-line has started to gel.

I credit a lot of this to Whitworth. I have seen PA do bad in the past and i am a bit hesitant to give him all the credit.
I wouldn't be surprised one bit by that. Whit is a stand up guy and he'll do anytihng he can to help his 'mates!
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:43 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised one bit by that. Whit is a stand up guy and he'll do anytihng he can to help his 'mates!


He isn't stupid either and neither are Boling, Robinson or Zeitler.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:33 PM
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If we re-sign Crocker we should just sit him until week 5.. No ota's, mini's tc, preseason, practice... Whatever it takes to keep him playing at this level.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:38 PM
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Nice post. I never thought I would see the day around here when people are giving Crocker the credit he is due. Now,...I'll admit, he didn't always deserve a whole lot of it, but this year, he's worked out great for the Bengals. I'm glad they brought him back in.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:40 PM
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CC has come in and beasted...Maybe we just overused him last year because for some reason he didnt show what hes showing now. He is old though so maybe he just cant do a whole season at a high level anymore.
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He isn't stupid either and neither are Boling, Robinson or Zeitler.
So you're saying Andre is stupid? It's because he's black isn't it?
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Missing a tackle and being completely embarassed are a bit different.

That was completely embarassing, couldn't even knock the guy out of bounds.

Adam Jones got toasted as well should we not bring him back?
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Chris Crocker was our starting safety through our big losing streak


Edit: He did split time with Clements in a few of those games. (with Clements only getting a majority of snaps in the Dolphins game)
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Grumble Grumble... yeeeea hes played well.
Great, now I have to find listerine to get the vomit taste out of my mouth
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So you're saying Andre is stupid? It's because he's black isn't it?


I thought someone would say that. Not calling out Andre but he is more talent than brains IMO.
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Grumble Grumble... yeeeea hes played well.
Great, now I have to find listerine to get the vomit taste out of my mouth
I dont trust him as a defender on our Team....
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