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Old 12-07-2012, 03:43 PM
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Peerman & Dre were extremely valuable in both KO & Punt Coverage teams. Peerman is a blocking beast on both return teams. Nuggent has Ice-Water in his veins when it comes to FGs. Without Dre on teams, Andrew 'Baby Hawk' Hawkins will be used less as a Slot WR because of his Gunner skills on both coverage teams. Remember that dallas is a 'Skills-First' team (Thus the bad O-Line). Field Position is a very very very very very serious concern.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:45 PM
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Peerman & Dre were extremely valuable in both KO & Punt Coverage teams. Peerman is a blocking beast on both return teams. Nuggent has Ice-Water in his veins when it comes to FGs. Without Dre on teams, Andrew 'Baby Hawk' Hawkins will be used less as a Slot WR because of his Gunner skills on both coverage teams. Remember that dallas is a 'Skills-First' team (Thus the bad O-Line). Field Position is a very very very very very serious concern.
Dre had just recently starting playing teams....

No worries Peerman hurts but SKuta is still the man on ST's

And hawkins is healthy
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Peerman & Dre were extremely valuable in both KO & Punt Coverage teams. Peerman is a blocking beast on both return teams. Nuggent has Ice-Water in his veins when it comes to FGs. Without Dre on teams, Andrew 'Baby Hawk' Hawkins will be used less as a Slot WR because of his Gunner skills on both coverage teams. Remember that dallas is a 'Skills-First' team (Thus the bad O-Line). Field Position is a very very very very very serious concern.
You must've been watching someone who's name was really NUGGENT.

Mike Nugent has been underwhelming this season IMO.
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You must've been watching someone who's name was really NUGGENT.

Mike Nugent has been underwhelming this season IMO.
I guess the 55yd record tying FG against cloak-land was due to nervousness.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:52 PM
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I guess the 55yd record tying FG against cloak-land was due to nervousness.
cept he missed a shorter one less than a minute before that one.
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Mike Nugent has been underwhelming this season IMO.
19 of 23 (83%) with all 4 misses over 40 yards?
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I guess the 55yd record tying FG against cloak-land was due to nervousness.
Not at all. He's 19-23 and he's only had 2 attempts of 50+ yards. Pedestrian numbers for an NFL kicker.
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Yep. Pedestrian.
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I'm a Nuggent fan...Sorry.
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NUGENT.

I didn't say I wasn't a fan, I just think that his production is easily replaceable.
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19 of 23 (83%) with all 4 misses over 40 yards?
looks good.

my only complaint is his lack of power on kick offs..

But then again if everything went out of the endzone then they would always get the ball on the 20 kicking it to the goaline gives us a chance to pinn them deeper.
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looks good.

my only complaint is his lack of power on kick offs..

But then again if everything went out of the endzone then they would always get the ball on the 20 kicking it to the goaline gives us a chance to pin them deeper.
I actually thought that was part of the strategy, because coverage was usually excellent.
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I actually thought that was part of the strategy, because coverage was usually excellent.
I agree with that part. It seems like when the situation dictates, he has no problem putting the ball through the end zone.
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I actually thought that was part of the strategy, because coverage was usually excellent.
could be... i dont know only know what i see. coaches tell me ****
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NUGENT.

I didn't say I wasn't a fan, I just think that his production is easily replaceable.
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Dude could be 0 for 40 (0%) and people would love him. Why? He went to ohio state.

But overall, I think he's done a good job.
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Dude could be 0 for 40 (0%) and people would love him. Why? He went to ohio state.

But overall, I think he's done a good job.
its not because he went to ohio state....

He grew up in Centerville and a bengal fan.

*Plus he has a high draft status lol
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correct me if Im wrong but 3 of the 4 were much needed Fgs...he botched them and we lost momentum???

Not all his fault but hes done a decent job, now he just needs to hit one when we absolutely need it
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[quote=victor24;2715140]I guess the 55yd record tying FG against cloak-land was due to nervousness.[/QUOTE
]How about the one he missed just before that, he is not automatic by a long shot.
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I liked Nugent's mentality and the fact that he at least gave you a chance to make the long ones. Hopefully Josh Brown comes in and gets the job done though. And hopefully we score lot's of TDs and only need him on extra points and kickoffs.
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looks good.

my only complaint is his lack of power on kick offs..

But then again if everything went out of the endzone then they would always get the ball on the 20 kicking it to the goaline gives us a chance to pinn them deeper.




Is it a lack of power, or maybe it is the call of the ST coach, favoring a kick with more hang time?

Just saying, something to consider, since with the additional yardage even Graham is able to kick touchbacks. Maybe there's someplace to check those numbers, touchbacks versus kickoff hangtime, and check the correlation?.



Agree with others that his numders are very average and not worth clinging to, especially if Brown shows some mettle.
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I didn't say I wasn't a fan, I just think that his production is easily replaceable.
We thought that when we let Graham walk. We all know how that turned out.
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I'm not as concerned about losing Dre on STs as I am about losing Peerman. Who's going to try to stop Tate from being an idiot now? Not that Tate listens to Peerman, but at least Peerman tries to stop him from bringing out the ball from the end zone when he shouldn't.

Losing Nugent really stinks though.
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Peerman & Dre were extremely valuable in both KO & Punt Coverage teams. Peerman is a blocking beast on both return teams. Nuggent has Ice-Water in his veins when it comes to FGs. Without Dre on teams, Andrew 'Baby Hawk' Hawkins will be used less as a Slot WR because of his Gunner skills on both coverage teams. Remember that dallas is a 'Skills-First' team (Thus the bad O-Line). Field Position is a very very very very very serious concern.

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