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Old 12-09-2012, 01:27 AM
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I dunno if there's anything with this I agree.

The first one, yes, death tolls were different. They were also really different. More died in WW II, but it was a war. With what followed 9-11, soliders died outside of a war in what could have been handled much more efficiently using means outsde the military.

9-11 didn't bring everyone together? For the first few years, completely disagree. Everything was too pro-American. I say too pro-American because it was after that people realized some less than American things were happening (no-bid buddy contracts, invading Iraq which wasn't as involved with terrorists as other countries, etc).

Didn't infringe on rights? Not familiar with the American concentration camps? Red scare?

WTF? We have the largest military and spend more than the next 10 countries combined... but we're not the world's biggest super power any more? Come on.

Greatest generation. Ok. Not to take away from what they did, but a large amount of growth came from that time, prompted mostly by massive government spending. And that spending was supported by taxes, mostly collected from businesses and top earners. Now, we have plenty of spending, but it's not going to any growth, it's just going to political buddies. But we still have massive accomplishments, mostly done by private individuals with little or no money. Which is different and, in many ways, makes modern achievements better. And on a different but similar note, workers in the greatest generation had the strength of the economy and, for many, unions to support them. Todays workforce is guilted by conservatives to think it should work twice as hard for half the money and fewer benefits.

Kennedy didn't do much. Really. He wasn't a bad guy and what happened to him was horrible, but he wasn't a great president. Could have been, sure. I'd agree on Bush, although I don't think as negatively of Obama as some.
Kennedy was not going to go to Vietnam, he was taking steps to eliminate the Fed Reserve.......They killed him for his trouble. So you're correct to say he didn't do much, he never got the chance. He was murdered for what he was going to do.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:33 AM
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Kennedy was not going to go to Vietnam, he was taking steps to eliminate the Fed Reserve.......They killed him for his trouble. So you're correct to say he didn't do much, he never got the chance. He was murdered for what he was going to do.
Kennedy was working feverishly too have us out of Nam by 1966, and would have succeeded, But after his assassination, Johnson screwed everything up and the war continued for another decade, costing us more lives and vets with psychological problems. We gained nothing from Nam.
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