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Old 12-09-2012, 05:25 PM
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An you're right- cook should've never played today

Interesting today cook plays majority of the game and ELLIS fails to go over 100 yds..

It was cooks fault on that sack- not Zeitlers....
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Maualuga *****. Terrible again in pass coverage. Once again a team picks on linebacker level for passing plays.

He is plain and simple- the LEAST effective starting MLB in the nfl.

And a liability in bengals passing game
Rey was fine in coverage today.
He took a few poor routes on the RB out of the backfield but was decent the rest of the game.
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An you're right- cook should've never played today

Interesting today cook plays majority of the game and ELLIS fails to go over 100 yds..

It was cooks fault on that sack- not Zeitlers....
Had nothing to do with Cook. That was play calling.
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:26 PM
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Marvin probably thought (and I use the word thought generously) that Cook needed to be brought back in a situation when the outcome of the game was not in doubt.

Typical Marvin.

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Old 12-09-2012, 05:27 PM
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Trying to fix something that isn't broken. And our entire offense was out of sync. Plenty of blame to go around for this loss. From coaches to players. It was obvious that Dalton and AJ didn't bring their A-game. But for some reason we kept throwing when BJGE was running all over their D.

We had a chance to put the game away late and instead of running we kept passing when we were not very productive at it all day.
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:27 PM
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You do not run centers in and out like so many interchangeable parts. That whole line is one unit. On a key sack of Dalton, there was a lack of coordination beween Cook and Zeitler, and here comes a linebacker right up the middle for a game changing sack.

I am not anti-Cook, but you don't do this with centers any more than you would keep running quarterbacks in and out all the time. This was a bonehead move.

Now, there's plenty of blame to go around.

I think AJ Green's two drops and a braindead block in the back are completely unlike him, especially to have all three happen, and I really wonder if his illness had him slightly off-stride. Some people around here have been coming down with stomach flu this week, including me, and it is a rough two or three days.

Turning those drops into catches (and I don't mean just Green) would have helped Dalton, but I thought his decision making was no more than mediocre today, passing up good gains to open receivers on several occasions as we saw with Gresham and Leonard both at important times.

The coaches got way too conservative in the second half, and their disorganization had us out of time outs by the start of the fourth quarter. We could have really used those at the end of the game.

The whole day was a sea of missed opportunity, and the biggest one was in the standings, with the Ravens and Steelers both losing.

Otherwise it was a real peachy day.
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:27 PM
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I would like to know who made the decision to put Cook in and take away the chemistry of the OLine.
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:28 PM
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Trying to fix something that isn't broken. And our entire offense was out of sync. Plenty of blame to go around for this loss. From coaches to players. It was obvious that Dalton and AJ didn't bring their A-game. But for some reason we kept throwing when BJGE was running all over their D.

We had a chance to put the game away late and instead of running we kept passing when we were not very productive at it all day.
Agreed. That is on coaching. Not Cook. But it apparently was on Cook.
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I would like to know who made the decision to put Cook in and take away the chemistry of the OLine.
It's not like Cook is a rookie or random FA. He has worked with Boling all last year and pre-season this year. He had pretty much all pre-season with Zeitler.

He has had plenty of time with Dalton and the two tackles.
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:32 PM
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Just got home from that painful loss. What the flip happened to the play calling on offense? Oh and eff those refs. Some bad calls/no calls today.
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:36 PM
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Maualuga *****. Terrible again in pass coverage. Once again a team picks on linebacker level for passing plays.

He is plain and simple- the LEAST effective starting MLB in the nfl.

And a liability in bengals passing game
hahah!You must be mad in love with Rey Maualuga every sunday lol.
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:38 PM
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Agreed. That is on coaching. Not Cook. But it apparently was on Cook.
It was mind boggling. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact BJGE was headed for a career day and even though he was averaging 7.4 ypc we decided to give him the second fewest carries of the year (not surprising the game he had the fewest was the loss to the Dolphins). While giving Leonard the most carries he has had all year.

STUPID. Sure their secondary was depleted but our run game was clicking.
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It was mind boggling. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact BJGE was headed for a career day and even though he was averaging 7.4 ypc we decided to give him the second fewest carries of the year (not surprising the game he had the fewest was the loss to the Dolphins). While giving Leonard the most carries he has had all year.

STUPID. Sure their secondary was depleted but our run game was clicking.
We failed to adjust. A historical problem here under Marv.
We got set in our way of how to win and didn't adjust
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What? BJGE broke 2 big runs with Cook in.
Stop.

The penalty was ticky tacky ********.
I saw much worse go uncalled for Dallas.
Dallas was holding Geno it was very unfair.
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Dallas was holding Geno it was very unfair.
Between Geno and Dunlap they got away with murder compared to Cook
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:42 PM
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Oh and Witten held Dunlap (I think) like a mother ****er on the run that gave the Cowboys the game sealing first.
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:43 PM
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I can't stand maualuga. He is completely incompetent a a linebacker.

I rather watch him so the Gangham Style dance than his inability to do anything out there.

To those who defended him-- WATCH THE GAME AND LEARN WHAT LINEBACKERS ARE SUPPOSE TO DI IN PASS COVERAGE for a change.

Dallas, like most previous teams- attacks the middle of the field 12-20 yd down field-- right where Maualuga should be.

He gets so lost out there- it's pathetic...
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Need to get him reps. He was fine. This is just about nothing.
He didn't make the WR drop passes.
He didn't make the DB's forget how to catch.
He didn't make the DL forget how to tackle.
You forgot:

He didn't blow all the 2nd half timeouts in the 3rd quarter
He didn't go away from the running game and BJGE
He didn't hold the ball too long and get sacked
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:51 PM
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You forgot:

He didn't blow all the 2nd half timeouts in the 3rd quarter
He didn't go away from the running game and BJGE
He didn't hold the ball too long and get sacked
Apparently some think he is why BJGE didnt get 100 yards...
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Apparently some think he is why BJGE didnt get 100 yards...
He didn't get enough carries.

BJGE 12 carries - 89 yards
Leonard 6 carries - 20 yards

BJGE only 5 touches in the 2nd half = Epic Fail
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It's all part of Super Marvio's plan. Get that loss out of the way and focus on a 3 game win streak to end the season in the playoffs.
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Its an issue because it was a coaching decision of something that didnt need to be done so soon. I understand you love to argue just for the sake of arguing, but I simply just disagree with the coaches on this one as do a lot of folks.

I'm with you Milz, Cook had no business in the ball game.
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:39 PM
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Berserkone- YOU DON'T MESS WITH WHAT's WORKED/CHEMISTRY...

personnel changes like taking Robinson out don't directly dictate the outcome...

Anyone who's played sports knows team chemistry is a grey area and a delicate one; at that...

If Robinson stays in, who know if it's any different...

There was ZERO reason to cook in. He's been more consistent protecting Dalton and it can be argued that is a primary reason Ellis has run over 100 yds the previous several games.

This simply can't be denied....
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He didn't get enough carries.

BJGE 12 carries - 89 yards
Leonard 6 carries - 20 yards

BJGE only 5 touches in the 2nd half = Epic Fail
Yep.
Poor gameplanning
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Berserkone- YOU DON'T MESS WITH WHAT's WORKED/CHEMISTRY...

personnel changes like taking Robinson out don't directly dictate the outcome...

Anyone who's played sports knows team chemistry is a grey area and a delicate one; at that...

If Robinson stays in, who know if it's any different...

There was ZERO reason to cook in. He's been more consistent protecting Dalton and it can be argued that is a primary reason Ellis has run over 100 yds the previous several games.

This simply can't be denied....
There is more to it than you are trying to portray.
We saw little production drop with Cook in the game. It came down to game call by the coaches. Not Cook. Not Robinson.
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