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Old 12-02-2012, 02:02 PM
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IMO, we have 4 pressing needs we need to address in the draft

LB
S
DE
RB

Bold means we have a good shot at drafting him without trading

MLB
1. Manti Te'o - ND
2. Alec Ogletree - UGA
3. Shayne Skov - STAN
4. C.J. Mosley - ALA
5. Kevin Minter - LSU

OLB
1. Jarvis Jones - UGA
2. C.J. Mosley - ALA
3. Chase Thomas - STAN
4. Gerald Hodges - PSU
5. Sean Porter - TA&M

S
1. Kenny Vaccaro - TEX
2. Eric Reid - LSU
3. T.J. McDonald - USC
4. Baccari Rambo - UGA
5. Tony Jefferson - OKLA

DE
1. Sam Montgomery - LSU
2. Damontre Moore - TA&M
3. Bjoern Werner - FSU
4. Alex Okafor - TEX
5. Dion Jordan - ORE

RB
1. Joseph Randle - OKST
2. Giovanni Bernard - UNC
3. Stephan Taylor - STAN
4. Andre Ellington - CLEM
5. Mike Gillislee - UF

All players not in bold are players gone by our 1st round pick
Your missing the DE from SC Clowney. He should be one of the top 2.
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Old 12-02-2012, 02:37 PM
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Your missing the DE from SC Clowney. He should be one of the top 2.
Not eligable for the draft
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:31 AM
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The key to a successful RB isn't necessarily speed. It is that suddenness or burst. It is why slower RB's can work at times and look better than they might sound. It is what made Barry Sanders so great. When he went, the dude shot out like a cannon.

Take Trent Richardson for example. Not overwhelming speed at all. But seems to consistently rip off chunks of yards. He explodes through the hole and hits his top speed quickly. That is more important than straight line speed.
Barry was also a legit 4.3 coming out of Okie St, and was easily a once in several generation talent in the NFL. Excellent burst, and had lateral agility not seen in the NFL since he retired. The Lions were horrible at QB, with an average at best line (except for Lomas Brown), and below average secondaries for his entire career. .

We can all play the what if game, but as for me, if Sanders had Emmitt's line and offense, he would've retired with 20k yards and be universally considered to be the greatest running back, ever. Emmitt still deserves his HoF induction, and was a tough runner in his own right.

As for LaVeon Bell, I'll be surprised if he runs sub 4.6. The telling stat for him will be his 10 yard split, and 3 cone drill. I also don't think he'll weigh 240, more like low 230's.
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:45 PM
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As a FSU grad I can not wait to see him drafted by anyone. He causes fits in every aspect. Great against the run, disruptive in any type of coverage, blows screens up, blitzes good, and is a fiery leader. Only negative is he has a temper and he might get some personal fouls. My favorite safety coming out.

I'm with you and Bfine. I think the guy is underrated because he's not tall and hits hard.


But, and I haven't seen that much of him, all I've read leads me to think he's smart and hits hard. Sounds like a good SS to me!
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:40 PM
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Arthur Brown is better than any ILB not named Manti Teo in this draft. He's much better than Skov or Ogletree. I'd rather have him than Ogletree, who is still learning the position and is likely a 4-3 Will in the pros.
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Old 12-08-2012, 03:08 PM
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How bout Montee Ball he may just end up a Bengal.Just sayin.lol
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How bout Montee Ball he may just end up a Bengal.Just sayin.lol
Montee Ball is too much like we already have to be honest.
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:32 PM
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Montee Ball is too much like we already have to be honest.
Montee seems like he would be excellent in a zone scheme.
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Montee seems like he would be excellent in a zone scheme.
Maybe so but we need a homerun threat in this offense. We don't need another guy like we already have.
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:14 PM
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Maybe so but we need a homerun threat in this offense. We don't need another guy like we already have.
We have no one with the tools that Montee Ball has. We have a short yardage specialist forced into the bell cow role. Ball brings everything to the table except 4.4 speed. Watch that Nebraska game and you will see a player who runs hard, has good vision and an excellent cut and go.
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Montee Ball is too much like we already have to be honest.
If we have a Montee Ball type of back on this roster then I'd like to know who. Maybe Herron could be but we haven't seen much of him yet. I wouldn't mind drafting Ball as long as its in the 3rd or 4th. I believe hes listed as a 2-3 on most boards but I could be wrong.
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Montee Ball is too much like we already have to be honest.

this comes from nfl.com 2013 draft grades.


Strengths
Reliable, hard-working zone back. Presses the line of scrimmage, and has good vision and feel to find the cutback lane or cut away from penetrating defenders. Stays patient behind pulling guards and fullbacks, has enough quickness to break off a run if the space is available to him. Lowers his pads on contact, keeps his legs moving to gain extra yards against glancing blows. Effective cut blocker in the hole and willing to stand up to blitzers when protecting the quarterback. Natural receiver, adjusts to throws over the middle and in the flat, continues downfield fluidly. Sidesteps or stiff-arms oncoming defenders in space after the catch.
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Possesses average overall size and straight-line speed. Lacks another gear to accelerate once in space, and doesn’t have elite agility to elude quicker defenders. Does not have pure power to move piles or free himself through better tackle attempts. Cited in May 2012 for trespassing after failing to leave a porch when asked during Wisconsin’s annual Mifflin Street Block Party. Injured after being assaulted by multiple assailants on campus in August 2012.
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We have no one with the tools that Montee Ball has. We have a short yardage specialist forced into the bell cow role. Ball brings everything to the table except 4.4 speed. Watch that Nebraska game and you will see a player who runs hard, has good vision and an excellent cut and go.
So he is a lot like BJGE has been the last few weeks?
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:20 AM
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So he is a lot like BJGE has been the last few weeks?
I think its more like BJGE is playing like Montee Ball right now

The comparison I see most frequently in regards to Montee Ball is Curtis Martin.
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I think its more like BJGE is playing like Montee Ball right now

The comparison I see most frequently in regards to Montee Ball is Curtis Martin.
I was pretty giddy when I saw an Eddie Lacy to Stephen Jackson comp.
Which does fit IMO.

I thought Lacy reminded me of Michael Bush at Louisville before all the injuries.
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:03 AM
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I was pretty giddy when I saw an Eddie Lacy to Stephen Jackson comp.
Which does fit IMO.

I thought Lacy reminded me of Michael Bush at Louisville before all the injuries.
I like Lacy but his injuries kind of worries me. I still think we should draft 2 RB's and let scott and peerman go.
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I like Lacy but his injuries kind of worries me. I still think we should draft 2 RB's and let scott and peerman go.
The injuries were all fairly minor so Im not too terribly concerned.
Im more concerned with some ball control issues for him. But he has been much better about that this season
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It is hard to find a rb that is fast and durable. There is a reason almost every NFL team has a guy that is 220 lbs. plus and runs over 4.5 as their starter. To be a starting running back and be able to carry the ball 25 to 30 times a game, you need some bulk. You need it for blocking. You need it to deliver punishment. There are lots of potential home run threats out there, but most are change of pace or 3 rd down backs because they can't last a 16 game schedule.
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I like Lacy but his injuries kind of worries me. I still think we should draft 2 RB's and let scott and peerman go.
The thing that worries me about Lacy is T.Rich averaging only 3.6 YPC in the NFL.

How much of Bama's RB success is because of the RB and how much is because of the Oline?
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The thing that worries me about Lacy is T.Rich averaging only 3.6 YPC in the NFL.

How much of Bama's RB success is because of the RB and how much is because of the Oline?
He plays in Cleveland. Teams dont try to stop Weeden. They stack boxes and his OL isn't that good on the inside.
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He plays in Cleveland. Teams dont try to stop Weeden. They stack boxes and his OL isn't that good on the inside.
Hardesty averages 4.5
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I would like us to draft mlb,rb,olb with first 3 picks. CJ Mosley,Andre Ellington,Chase Thomas.
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I forgot, teams put 8 in the box vs Hardesty
So they worry about Weeden when Hardesty is in the game?
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So they worry about Weeden when Hardesty is in the game?
The certainly don't stack the box.
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