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Old 12-09-2012, 04:51 PM
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I am completely sick of this rule, its not even close to be fair. A WR can't be allowed to catch a pass uncontested. A DB has got to be able to separate the ball from the receiver. I don't buy this whole concussion theory anyway.

I know what the rule is and why its in place. The speed, strength and violence that is the NFL today means that you can't legislate a certain "play". Concussions are a part of football. The DB's are already severely hampered by rules to improve the passing game, and now a WR is allowed to catch the ball and only be tackled from the waist down? Complete BS.

Reggie Nelson's hit was 100% legal. Referees not wanting to get something wrong and erring on the side of caution are going to be losses for a lot of teams that should win...
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I am completely sick of this rule, its not even close to be fair. A WR can't be allowed to catch a pass uncontested. A DB has got to be able to separate the ball from the receiver. I don't buy this whole concussion theory anyway.

I know what the rule is and why its in place. The speed, strength and violence that is the NFL today means that you can't legislate a certain "play". Concussions are a part of football. The DB's are already severely hampered by rules to improve the passing game, and now a WR is allowed to catch the ball and only be tackled from the waist down? Complete BS.
It was a terrible call.
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:54 PM
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Call was a game changer. It was rubbish
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:56 PM
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Horrible horrible horrible call, come the **** on, you cant call that, oh yeah how about that AJ green block in the back? AJ barely TOUCHED him, the guy was diving for the tackle not diving because he got pushed, how do you call that??
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Call was a game changer. It was rubbish
Absolutely was a game changer. Bengals will get an email tomorrow from the league: Refs screwed up, sorry. and all will be forgotten/forgiven.

Until there is an independent Officials oversight committee that has demotion/firing ability, nothing will change...
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Call was a game changer. It was rubbish
While I agree the call was terrible, it's going a bit far to call it a game-changer. The drive resulted in a punt from the Dallas 39. Had the penalty not occurred it would have resulted in a punt from the Dallas 32. That's only a 7 yard difference. But more time ran off the clock, which at that point actually was in the Bengals favor.

End result: Refs aren't to blame for the loss. But the Bengals coaching staff most definitely is. We saw a near collapse in the 2nd half vs the Raiders. Not a huge surprise that eventually our lack of adjustments in the 2nd half would come back to bite us.
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Two officials were right there on the play. The flag came from across the filed from the back judge.

Horrible.
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Where was Reggie suppose to hit him? my bad, he should have aimed for his knees
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Unfortunately a review can't be used on a penalty but it was obviously a bad call. Don't see how a receiver can be 'defenseless' when the ball is still in his hands. And it wasn't a head shot.
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Two officials were right there on the play. The flag came from across the filed from the back judge.

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yeah i wanna know why those two officials that had much closer and better views didn't overrule the back judge?
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yeah i wanna know why those two officials that had much closer and better views didn't overrule the back judge?
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While I agree the call was terrible, it's going a bit far to call it a game-changer. The drive resulted in a punt from the Dallas 39. Had the penalty not occurred it would have resulted in a punt from the Dallas 32. That's only a 7 yard difference. But more time ran off the clock, which at that point actually was in the Bengals favor.

End result: Refs aren't to blame for the loss. But the Bengals coaching staff most definitely is. We saw a near collapse in the 2nd half vs the Raiders. Not a huge surprise that eventually our lack of adjustments in the 2nd half would come back to bite us.
You are correct, but you're forgetting one thing: momentum change. The Bengals we saw play today wasn't the team that can overcome things like that...
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I am completely sick of this rule, its not even close to be fair. A WR can't be allowed to catch a pass uncontested. A DB has got to be able to separate the ball from the receiver. I don't buy this whole concussion theory anyway.

I know what the rule is and why its in place. The speed, strength and violence that is the NFL today means that you can't legislate a certain "play". Concussions are a part of football. The DB's are already severely hampered by rules to improve the passing game, and now a WR is allowed to catch the ball and only be tackled from the waist down? Complete BS.

Reggie Nelson's hit was 100% legal. Referees not wanting to get something wrong and erring on the side of caution are going to be losses for a lot of teams that should win...
This happened to Reggie at least 3 times last year. He leads with his shoulder and hits the guy in the chest...and get's flagged.
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You are correct, but you're forgetting one thing: momentum change. The Bengals we saw play today wasn't the team that can overcome things like that...
I hope you're wrong because if this team is that mentally fragile, they've got no chance going to Pittsburgh in what should be a 'must win' game.
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I guess in todays NFL you arent allowed to hit WRs until after the catch the ball. To me it looked like that ball was gonna get caught and if Reggie didnt lay the wood, he would have a 1st.

So in tern.....

REGGIE NELSON GOT PUNISHED FOR MAKING AN AMAZING HIT.

If Reggie says F it and doesnt destroy Dez he has a 1st.

What I saw was we werent allowed to make a play but Dallas was
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This is a perfect example of why certain penalties should be able to be reviewed. There is no excuse for the NFL to allow a call like that to change the game like that.
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That was probably one of the worst calls I've seen this season. Reggie Nelson did nothing wrong and got penalized for it.
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While I agree the call was terrible, it's going a bit far to call it a game-changer. The drive resulted in a punt from the Dallas 39. Had the penalty not occurred it would have resulted in a punt from the Dallas 32. That's only a 7 yard difference. But more time ran off the clock, which at that point actually was in the Bengals favor.

End result: Refs aren't to blame for the loss. But the Bengals coaching staff most definitely is. We saw a near collapse in the 2nd half vs the Raiders. Not a huge surprise that eventually our lack of adjustments in the 2nd half would come back to bite us.
Stop blaming the coaches. AJ blew today. He absolutely blew.
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I guess in todays NFL you arent allowed to hit WRs until after the catch the ball. To me it looked like that ball was gonna get caught and if Reggie didnt lay the wood, he would have a 1st.

So in tern.....

REGGIE NELSON GOT PUNISHED FOR MAKING AN AMAZING HIT.

If Reggie says F it and doesnt destroy Dez he has a 1st.

What I saw was we werent allowed to make a play but Dallas was
Actually I think Dez had hands on that ball, then Reggie blasted him made him drop it and they threw a flag. I dont get it because there was no hit to the head, because Reggie hit him square in the upper pads....so thining of that I REALLY dont now how they threw a flag.

What ****** me off is Dez got up with a swagger, like cmon dude, you just got bailed out by the refs, because you got hit so hard they felt they HAD to give you a penalty to help you.....cmon man
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This is a perfect example of why certain penalties should be able to be reviewed. There is no excuse for the NFL to allow a call like that to change the game like that.

And that call was a momentum changer, for sure.
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And that call was a momentum changer, for sure.
Yep. I just don't understand why they can't review penalties if they review fumbles, interceptions, scores, etc.... Penalties can be just as important. They should be reviewed.
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The sad part about the call was the Referee who made the call was on the complete other side of the field. There is no way he could have seen that hit!! It was a horrible call and the stadium went nuts when they showed the replay.
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NFL needs to make a rule change and be able to review those kind of hits..Football is turning into "sarcasta ball"...If it's a hard hit your a** always clinches when you see it because you know there's always going to be a flag... What do they want the guy's to do, stop hitting so hard??..Nelsons hit was clean and that was a BS call...And also, i hate how the NFL gets on Suh about the way he plays. The guy plays very physical and hits people but he does do some unecessary roughness at times, but they were getting on him about how he slammed Cutler?? He tackled him to hard and there was controversy over that..lol
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The sad part about the call was the Referee who made the call was on the complete other side of the field. There is no way he could have seen that hit!! It was a horrible call and the stadium went nuts when they showed the replay.

Not that it did us any good, but lets be fair, the game shouldn't have been that close where one bad call beats us, we had so many chances to put this game away, it wasn't funny,

I am starting to see why people let their season tickets expire,

it seems no matter how good the team plays, this coaching staff tries to give the games away.
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yeah i wanna know why those two officials that had much closer and better views didn't overrule the back judge?
The flag came in right behind Reggie.
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