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Old 12-12-2012, 01:55 PM
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Russ Lande over at the football post has released his top 200 players. He ranks these players based purely on his own film study as a former NFL scout and on the input of current nfl scouts** (edited for clarity). His list is very interesting and if this is indeed true we could have what I would consider to be an insanely awesome draft.

link: http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...?sct=hp_bf3_a2

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1. Bjoern Werner, DE, FSU
2. Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
3. Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
4. Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama
5. Dion Jordan, DE, Orgeon
6. Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
7. Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
8. Kenny Vaccaro, FS, Texas
9. Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
10. Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
11. Ezekial Ansah, DE, BYU
12. Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
13. Alec Ogletree, ILB, Georgia
14. Jonathan Hankins, DT, OSU
15. Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
16. Manti Te’o, ILB, Notre Dame
17. Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
18. Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
19. Jonathan Cooper, OG, UNC
20. Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
21. Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
22. Jonathan Banks, CB, Mississippi State
23. Quinton Patton, WR, LA Tech
24. Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
25. Robert Woods, WR, USC
26. Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia
27. Corey Lemonier, DE, Auburn
28. Geovani Bernard, RB, UNC
29. Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
30. C.J. Mosley, OLB, Alabama
31. Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
32. Kevin Minter, ILB, LSU
Note the big names that the scouts don't like. None of the QBs are listed there, and no Jarvis Jones. Health concerns and poor performance against the run in the SEC championship game have severely deflated his stock, Another interesting thing is that the scouts like Ogletree better then Te'o here. I still think Te'o goes top 10 though just on name recognition alone. Some GM is going to want that name draw. *cough* San Diego *cough*

Going off his rankings this is an off the cuff projected draft.

1. Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia
2. Eric Reid, Safety, LSU
2b. Jarvis Jones, LB, Georgia
3. Michael Gillislee, RB, Florida
4. Shawn Williams, SS, Georgia
5.Tyran Mathieu, CB, LSU
6. Devin Taylor, DE, South Carolina
6. Colin Klein, QB, Kansas State

I could deal with that draft.
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Russ Lande over at the football post has released his top 200 players. He ranks these players based purely on film study and also heavily is influenced by nfl scouts opinions on these players. His list is very interesting and if this is indeed true we could have what I would consider to be an insanely awesome draft.

link: http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...?sct=hp_bf3_a2

the top 32:


Note the big names that the scouts don't like. None of the QBs are listed there, and no Jarvis Jones. Health concerns and poor performance against the run in the SEC championship game have severely deflated his stock, Another interesting thing is that the scouts like Ogletree better then Te'o here. I still think Te'o goes top 10 though just on name recognition alone. Some GM is going to want that name draw. *cough* San Diego *cough*

Going off his rankings this is an off the cuff projected draft.

1. Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia
2. Eric Reid, Safety, LSU
2b. Jarvis Jones, LB, Georgia
3. Michael Gillislee, RB, Florida
4. Shawn Williams, SS, Georgia
5.Tyran Mathieu, CB, LSU
6. Devin Taylor, DE, South Carolina
6. Colin Klein, QB, Kansas State

I could deal with that draft.
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Their mock draft has Jarvis Jones going to Baltimore at 29. Before people call him going that low crazy they have to remember one good hit and he could be completely done with football. Its just one of those things they have to weigh in when drafting.

The Bengals take Kenny Vaccaro at 20.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...t-10-3639.html
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Their mock draft has Jarvis Jones going to Baltimore at 29. Before people call him going that low crazy they have to remember one good hit and he could be completely done with football. Its just one of those things they have to weigh in when drafting.

The Bengals take Kenny Vaccaro at 20.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...t-10-3639.html
I saw that. Keep in mind though that the draft was done a week before the article i linked to. Of course BPA will always be mixed with need, so the rankings aren't a true indicator of draft position. It was certainly an interesting thing to read from a former NFL scout though.
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I saw that. Keep in mind though that the draft was done a week before the article i linked to. Of course BPA will always be mixed with need, so the rankings aren't a true indicator of draft position. It was certainly an interesting thing to read from a former NFL scout though.
Ya that's my favorite scout site because they do great in depth scouting reports. National Football Post and Draft Breakdown are the two best out there.
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Note the big names that the scouts don't like. None of the QBs are listed there
Actually has Glennon as the top rated QB. I've said it before, this kid is gonna shoot up the draft boards.
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Vaccaro at 8 is interesting. I have a feeling he will end up the number 1 safety. The others that don't get enough recognition seem to be Patton at 23, Aboushi at 26, and White at 44
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Vaccaro at 8 is interesting. I have a feeling he will end up the number 1 safety. The others that don't get enough recognition seem to be Patton at 23, Aboushi at 26, and White at 44
A kid from Fresno State named Phillip Thomas seems to be getting a great deal of hype lately as well.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...phillip-thomas
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Vaccaro at 8 is interesting. I have a feeling he will end up the number 1 safety. The others that don't get enough recognition seem to be Patton at 23, Aboushi at 26, and White at 44

Patton is gonna be a stud.He would be good for us. One guy on nfl.com compared him to reggie wayne.
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lol in retrospect that makes no sense. I was trying to say he studies film for himself and doesn't use other sites to aggregate his list. I will try to pretty that up in editing
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