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Old 12-13-2012, 09:11 PM
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That Andy isn't making very good throws, for the second straight week. I know its still the 1st qtr, but this game could be looking like a blowout right now...

Good thing the rest of the team seems to be feeling good though.
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That Andy isn't making very good throws, for the second straight week. I know its still the 1st qtr, but this game could be looking like a blowout right now...

Good thing the rest of the team seems to be feeling good though.
Exactly dalton throws looks terrible through the first quarter...if the bengals want success he has to step it up!
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Run the ****ing football and Dalton will look better.
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Dalton has, for the most part, ****** this year.

I really hope he gets better in his third year.

Because he is not starter quality right now.
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That Andy isn't making very good throws, for the second straight week. I know its still the 1st qtr, but this game could be looking like a blowout right now...

Good thing the rest of the team seems to be feeling good though.
You mean the Eagles have nfl players that are trying their hardest too?? No way!
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Dalton has, for the most part, ****** this year.

I really hope he gets better in his third year.

Because he is not starter quality right now.
You've got to be kidding me. You can't be that big of a moron, can you?
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Dalton has, for the most part, ****** this year.

I really hope he gets better in his third year.

Because he is not starter quality right now.
The fact that he is 12th in qb rating would seem to disprove your thoughts. Does he struggle at time sure But he is in his 2nd year.
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That Andy isn't making very good throws, for the second straight week. I know its still the 1st qtr, but this game could be looking like a blowout right now...

Good thing the rest of the team seems to be feeling good though.
Not a fan of him throwing back across his body though
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That Andy isn't making very good throws, for the second straight week. I know its still the 1st qtr, but this game could be looking like a blowout right now...

Good thing the rest of the team seems to be feeling good though.
Indeed. Foles is outplaying him and is decisive and quick. Andy is looking lost and scared. Deer in the headlights.
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You mean the Eagles have nfl players that are trying their hardest too?? No way!

Open your eyes, he's heaving short passes 10 feet in the air...
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That Andy isn't making very good throws, for the second straight week. I know its still the 1st qtr, but this game could be looking like a blowout right now...

Good thing the rest of the team seems to be feeling good though.
His pocket presence is terrible and his throws have been off.

When is the last time he completed a pass over 20 not including YAC?
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It's actually the 3rd straight week
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That Andy isn't making very good throws, for the second straight week. I know its still the 1st qtr, but this game could be looking like a blowout right now...

Good thing the rest of the team seems to be feeling good though.
Cause the o-line is playing shut down...right?
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The fact that he is 12th in qb rating would seem to disprove your thoughts. Does he struggle at time sure But he is in his 2nd year.
Both of you underestimate the impact of AJ Green on Dalton's success.

Dalton is indecisive, mistake prone, surprisingly immobile and thinks he's a gunslinger when he isn't.

There isn't anything about him that we couldn't get from just about any other QB in the league.
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Cause the o-line is playing shut down...right?

Even on plays when he's clean, rushed throws, high throws, throws behind the receiver, etc.
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Both of you underestimate the impact of AJ Green on Dalton's success.

Dalton is indecisive, mistake prone, surprisingly immobile and thinks he's a gunslinger when he isn't.

There isn't anything about him that we couldn't get from just about any other QB in the league.
I love how Andy's immobility allowed him to run for a first down then TD no one else steps up!
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:04 AM
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I love how Andy's immobility allowed him to run for a first down then TD no one else steps up!

Andy has fire and passion for the game, wants to win, just making some really horrible throws the past few games. No touch, no timing, gets caught staring...
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Dalton looked off tonight, and half of it was Cook being pushed back into the pocket on every passing play. Cook also missed two assignments and Dalton was sacked twice because of it.

No QB looks good with an O line playing like that.

Why is the O line, which has been very good, all at once looking like crap? Cook is back at Center, and it is throwing the chemistry off.

We need to start Robinson, and set Cook.
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No QB will look comfortable when they're worried about getting hit every play and trying to keep the ball tucked when he feels pressure so he doesn't let go of another fumble.
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That Andy isn't making very good throws, for the second straight week. I know its still the 1st qtr, but this game could be looking like a blowout right now...

Good thing the rest of the team seems to be feeling good though.
Andy's passing got even worse after Chris Pressley went down. I think Chris flies under the radar from game to game and maybe fans don't realize how much he contributes in pass protection. Also, the Philadelphia defensive line played not just with speed but with an unpredictable combination of bull rushes, stunts, and spin moves. Even so, Paul Alexander has to find a way to get Andy some more time to throw it deeper.
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Andy's passing got even worse after Chris Pressley went down. I think Chris flies under the radar from game to game and maybe fans don't realize how much he contributes in pass protection. Also, the Philadelphia defensive line played not just with speed but with an unpredictable combination of bull rushes, stunts, and spin moves. Even so, Paul Alexander has to find a way to get Andy some more time to throw it deeper.
The best way to do that is start Robinson, and not play Cook. Cook got pushed back into the pocket on almost every passing play.

They can also give some chips on the DE/OLB with the TE and keep them in. Leaving Gresham to block a DE one on one is terrible, and they did that more than once tonight.
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The best way to do that is start Robinson, and not play Cook. Cook got pushed back into the pocket on almost every passing play.

They can also give some chips on the DE/OLB with the TE and keep them in. Leaving Gresham to block a DE one on one is terrible, and they did that more than once tonight.
Oh, and try a two tight end set once in awhile; I didn't see any against the Eagles. Often having just one more big body on the line of scrimmage can make a big difference. Sure, it means the offense has to go with a two vice three wide receiver set but if the quarterback is getting pressured and the pocket is collapsing early, it doesn't matter if two or three guys are open downfield.
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The best way to do that is start Robinson, and not play Cook. Cook got pushed back into the pocket on almost every passing play.

They can also give some chips on the DE/OLB with the TE and keep them in. Leaving Gresham to block a DE one on one is terrible, and they did that more than once tonight.
Cook is a liability, no doubt.

But Andy's pass to AJ in the end zone in the first half that got broken up by the safety was a well thrown ball. At least by Andy's standards. Maybe AJ had to slow down a tad.
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That Andy isn't making very good throws, for the second straight week. I know its still the 1st qtr, but this game could be looking like a blowout right now...

Good thing the rest of the team seems to be feeling good though.

I noticed... He had Marvin Jones open in the middle and couldn't lead him farther to left & then he threw a dirtball to Leonard...I am starting to have doubts about Andy because he'll stand in the pocket like a statue and not move until someone has a hand on em, by then it's to late to roll out. What happened to the mobile Andy Dalton from TCU??? He's starting to look like Palmer in the pocket...& Andy is having trouble looking for other guys in certain situations, usually he eyes down Aj like a hawk.
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Oh, and try a two tight end set once in awhile; I didn't see any against the Eagles. Often having just one more big body on the line of scrimmage can make a big difference. Sure, it means the offense has to go with a two vice three wide receiver set but if the quarterback is getting pressured and the pocket is collapsing early, it doesn't matter if two or three guys are open downfield.

Well, they did, sort of. Later in the game, they had to use Orson Charles as a FB/HB.
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